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Date:      Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:46:48 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        arch@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_proc.c kern_prot.c uipc_socket.c uipc_usrreq.c src/sys/netinet raw_ip.c tcp_subr.c udp_usrreq.c
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1011010162119.58824C-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011010101053.A9313@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, David O'Brien wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 11:56:57AM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> > <<On 10 Oct 2001 17:53:16 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> said:
> > 
> > > Unless you can provide an argument showing that this is necessary to
> > > the correct operation of a FreeBSD system, I'll simply ignore your
> > > contribution to this discussion.
> > 
> > And I'll simply ignore your ``contribution'' as well, if that's how
> > you feel about it.
> > 
> > You asked ``would people mind a lot''.  I answered the question: yes,
> > people would mind a great deal.  The process table is *public
> > information*, and has always been so in the entire history of UNIX.
> > You are proposing a totally unacceptable POLA violation.
> 
> I agree.  It would be POLA.  Put something in /etc/rc* that sets it to
> `0' if a high SECURE_LEVEL is set, if you like.  Otherwise, leave Unix
> alone.

The proper solution may simply be to use /etc/sysctl.conf, and possibly to
teach sysinstall how to read/edit the file properly, as well as the
meanings of some popular values.

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org      NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services



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