Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:22:40 -0500 From: Doug Lee <dgl@dlee.org> To: Renegade Penguin <renegadepenguin@comcast.net> Cc: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: skype and other *phones Message-ID: <20061212102240.GZ10135@kirk.dlee.org> In-Reply-To: <457E55E1.7090100@comcast.net> References: <f84c38580612101109s64bffaccye5de8cd380d6af8b@mail.gmail.com> <d9175cad0612112305t85fcdd4q5babfedd52e4bbb0@mail.gmail.com> <457E55E1.7090100@comcast.net>
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On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:10:25PM -0800, Renegade Penguin wrote: > > >Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: >> >>If you are open to suggestions on other phone systems, I have been very >>much enjoying my gizmo account. (gizmoproject.com) >> >Yes, but the gizmoproject is particularly onerous. Look at the EULA: > >http://www.gizmoproject.com/gizmo-end-user.html > >Michael Robertson is the head of that project, IIRC. Fairly nasty EULA >for using such "open" terms. Can't even redistribute the software. Gizmo turned me severely off a while back when one individual began repeatedly posting messages on the SkypeEnglish mailing list, which is designed to support Skype users who have visual impairments, advertising Gizmo. I saw no evidence that the individual was actually reading our list, and I consider it rude and highly unprofessional to post unrelated messages repeatedly, especially when they directly compete with the focus of the list, especially when posted by someone who doesn't even seem to read the list, and most especially when the person does not even respond to publicly raised concerns over the first two points but keeps right on posting. The posting stopped eventually, but by then I had developed an active disinterest in Gizmo. Questions as to how accessible to blind users Gizmo might be, such questions being at least related to the list's purpose, were not answered by the company as far as I know. Disclaimer: I can not speak to the company's intentions with respect to this kind of behavior, nor to the exact identity of the poster. At the time though, I was convinced it was a company representative. I have no affiliation with either company except (1) as a happy Skype user and (2) as a beta tester for Skype. The latter is covered by an NDA but is voluntary and not paid. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org SSB + BART Group doug.lee@ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "You must let me try, for a true soldier does not admit defeat before the battle." --Helen Keller (in a letter to the president of Radcliffe College)
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