From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 1:33:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sonata.leads4less.com (H146.C206.tor.velocet.net [216.138.206.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB81037B40C; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 01:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BRIAN (brian.leads4less.com [192.168.0.2]) by sonata.leads4less.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8U8XGW10447; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:33:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmirkalami@leads4less.com) From: "Seyed Bahram Mirkalami" To: , Subject: FreeBSD training in the Toronto area??? Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:33:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE_01C14969.0839BD40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE_01C14969.0839BD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all: If you know of any schools/colleges that offer FreeBSD administration Course in or around Toronto, please let me know. Regards Seyed Bahram (Brian) Mirkalami Leads4less.com Inc. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE_01C14969.0839BD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_01BE_01C14969.0839BD40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 4:56:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe090.worldonline.dk (fe090.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C73537B40C for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2138 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 11:56:20 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe090.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 11:56:20 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:57:37 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14383499415.20010930135737@e-box.dk> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: automatic start of Apache MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where should I put the stuff I want to start at system startup? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk -- "Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 4:58:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe100.worldonline.dk (fe100.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE67137B40C for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19903 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 11:58:29 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe100.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 11:58:29 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:59:46 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: motd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I get my FreeBSD to give me a message of the day on login (I use the csh shell)? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk -- "The only truly secure computer is one buried in concrete, with the power turned off and the network cable cut." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 6:45:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB9F37B40C for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 06:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([212.228.234.119]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 15nguW-000ANZ-0V; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:45:37 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:44:52 +0100 To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren_Neigaard?= Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: motd References: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> In-Reply-To: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk>, Søren Neigaard writes >How do I get my FreeBSD to give me a message of the day on login (I >use the csh shell)? /etc/motd ? I've never bothered changing mine but that's where it says I should if I ever did. Kevin -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 7: 6:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe170.worldonline.dk (fe170.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACC0237B40C for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13798 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 14:06:03 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe170.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 14:06:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:07:30 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14591292291.20010930160730@e-box.dk> To: Kevin Golding Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: motd In-Reply-To: References: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sunday, September 30, 2001, 3:44:52 PM, Kevin wrote: KG> In message <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk>, Søren Neigaard KG> writes >>How do I get my FreeBSD to give me a message of the day on login (I >>use the csh shell)? KG> /etc/motd ? KG> I've never bothered changing mine but that's where it says I should if I KG> ever did. I think I will stick to the standard motd too, but how do I activate it? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 7:35:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe040.worldonline.dk (fe040.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 106DE37B40C for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 07:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7648 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 14:35:40 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe040.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 14:35:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:37:03 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <693064880.20010930163703@e-box.dk> To: "Lal Manavado" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: motd In-Reply-To: <003701c14a08$64d72660$a96b4382@tocom> References: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> <003701c14a08$64d72660$a96b4382@tocom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Monday, October 01, 2001, 1:33:59 AM, Lal wrote: >> How do I get my FreeBSD to give me a message of the day on login (I >> use the csh shell)? LM> If you want some interesting motd, add the fllowing line to your .cshrc LM> file: LM> fortune LM> or LM> ching Eeeh Each gives a "Command not found.". Do I need to set some environment, or? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 9:36:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52EA37B40B for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a186.otenet.gr [212.205.215.186]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8UGaRR26020; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:36:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8UEOIO94633; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:24:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:24:18 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: S?ren Neigaard Cc: Kevin Golding , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: motd Message-ID: <20010930172418.A94566@hades.hell.gr> References: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> <14591292291.20010930160730@e-box.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14591292291.20010930160730@e-box.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 X-URL: http://labs.gr/~charon/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org S?ren Neigaard wrote: > Sunday, September 30, 2001, 3:44:52 PM, Kevin wrote: > > KG> /etc/motd ? > KG> I've never bothered changing mine but that's where it says I should if I > KG> ever did. > > I think I will stick to the standard motd too, but how do I activate > it? If you haven't changed the default /etc/login.conf file it should contain the following: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ That `welcome' line is what you need to edit, and then run the command: # cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf If you have a very old version of FreeBSD, whose login.conf does not support the welcome= capability, you can always add to your /etc/csh.cshrc the following: test -f /etc/motd && cat /etc/motd and that should take care of it, for you. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 9:49:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE20237B40E for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8UGr2dr095466; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:53:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3BB74D3F.85434358@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:50:07 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Neigaard Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache References: <14383499415.20010930135737@e-box.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Søren Neigaard wrote: > > Where should I put the stuff I want to start at system startup? > > -- > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, > Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk > -- > "Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message /etc/rc.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 9:51:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ocis.ocis.net (ocis.ocis.net [209.52.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36F937B40E for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ocis.ocis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23450; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:51:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:51:03 -0700 Message-Id: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> From: "Freddie Cash" To: "Søren Neigaard" Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Reply-To: fcash@bigfoot.vom Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.13 X-OriginatingIP: 209.52.175.148 (fcash) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, this is not the right list to be asking technical questions on. This list is for new users to discuss their experiences running FreeBSD (the good, the bad, the ugly if needed). If you are unsure how to phrase a technical question for the freebsd-questions list, then post the info you have and ask for suggestions on making it better here. :) Just an FYI for next time. > Where should I put the stuff I want to start at system startup? Two places. If you want it to just start at boot, add a couple lines to /etc/rc.local: echo -n "apache " /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start If you want to be able to control its start/stop/restart a la SysV/Linux, then you can create a simple script and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ All the executable scripts in this directory are run at boot time with a "start" argument (for FreeBSD 4+, in 3- it just ran the executable scripts). The easiest script is like so: #!/bin/sh case "$1" in start) echo -n "apache " /usr/local/sbin/apchectl start ;; stop) /usr/local/sbin/apachectl stop ;; restart) /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart ;; *) echo "Usage: $0 {start | stop | restart}" ;; esac HTH, Cheers, Freddie fcash@bigfoot.com Linux is for people who hate Windows. FreeBSD is for people that like UNIX. -- unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 9:59:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gate.tellurian.net (gate.tellurian.net [216.182.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5557137B40B for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walt99 (unverified [216.182.56.86]) by gate.tellurian.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:59:51 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010930125829.00b622f0@popd.betan.net> X-Sender: walterbetanc@popd.betan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:59:06 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Walter Betancourt Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache In-Reply-To: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have startup stuff in rc.conf.local does it matter ? Walt At 09:51 AM 9/30/01 -0700, you wrote: >First, this is not the right list to be asking technical questions >on. This list is for new users to >discuss their experiences running FreeBSD (the good, the bad, the ugly if >needed). If you are >unsure how to phrase a technical question for the freebsd-questions list, >then post the info you >have and ask for suggestions on making it better here. :) Just an FYI >for next time. > > > Where should I put the stuff I want to start at system startup? > >Two places. If you want it to just start at boot, add a couple lines to >/etc/rc.local: > echo -n "apache " > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start > >If you want to be able to control its start/stop/restart a la SysV/Linux, >then you can create a >simple script and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ All the executable >scripts in this directory are run at >boot time with a "start" argument (for FreeBSD 4+, in 3- it just ran the >executable scripts). > >The easiest script is like so: >#!/bin/sh >case "$1" in > start) > echo -n "apache " > /usr/local/sbin/apchectl start > ;; > stop) > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl stop > ;; > restart) > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart > ;; > *) > echo "Usage: $0 {start | stop | restart}" > ;; >esac > >HTH, >Cheers, >Freddie >fcash@bigfoot.com > >Linux is for people who hate Windows. >FreeBSD is for people that like UNIX. > -- unknown > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Walt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10: 3:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF88137B408 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8UH7Idr005147; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3BB75097.7E894C09@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:04:23 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter Betancourt Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache References: <4.2.2.20010930125829.00b622f0@popd.betan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Walter Betancourt wrote: > > I have startup stuff in rc.conf.local > > does it matter ? No > > Walt > > At 09:51 AM 9/30/01 -0700, you wrote: > >First, this is not the right list to be asking technical questions > >on. This list is for new users to > >discuss their experiences running FreeBSD (the good, the bad, the ugly if > >needed). If you are > >unsure how to phrase a technical question for the freebsd-questions list, > >then post the info you > >have and ask for suggestions on making it better here. :) Just an FYI > >for next time. > > > > > Where should I put the stuff I want to start at system startup? > > > >Two places. If you want it to just start at boot, add a couple lines to > >/etc/rc.local: > > echo -n "apache " > > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start > > > >If you want to be able to control its start/stop/restart a la SysV/Linux, > >then you can create a > >simple script and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ All the executable > >scripts in this directory are run at > >boot time with a "start" argument (for FreeBSD 4+, in 3- it just ran the > >executable scripts). > > > >The easiest script is like so: > >#!/bin/sh > >case "$1" in > > start) > > echo -n "apache " > > /usr/local/sbin/apchectl start > > ;; > > stop) > > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl stop > > ;; > > restart) > > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart > > ;; > > *) > > echo "Usage: $0 {start | stop | restart}" > > ;; > >esac > > > >HTH, > >Cheers, > >Freddie > >fcash@bigfoot.com > > > >Linux is for people who hate Windows. > >FreeBSD is for people that like UNIX. > > -- unknown > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Walt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.home.nl (mail3.home.nl [213.51.129.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2230837B408 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cc131380A ([213.51.93.28]) by mail3.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010930170945.JMPX21942.mail3.home.nl@cc131380A> for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:09:45 +0200 From: "Etherflow" To: Subject: Make depend, make, make install ...?!?!? Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:09:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c149d2$bad47490$1c5d33d5@cc131380A> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C149E3.7E5D4490" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C149E3.7E5D4490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He Guys, Well since a couple of days I got my cable modem. At first I thought GREAT now I can experience enough with FreeBSD..well that's the part that indeed happened! I set up a P1 180 MHz with FREEBSD. Two NIC inserted ( a 3COM 3c905 and a NE 2000 ) Whatever I do.. Only one of the cards is working. Either the 3COM or the NE2000. The other one always give the error message device timeout! Well that turned out to be an mis-configuration with the IRQ's. I have modified the values of the NE2000 card 10 times in the KERNEL.did a make depend, make bla bla bla.. IT STILL DOESN'T work and I don't know how to view the IRQ's on a freebsd machine. How can is see which IRQ's are in use?!?!? My sister is really boring me with the question when she is going to get Internet??? Come on guys help me get my sister of my back! :-) Greets, Sander ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C149E3.7E5D4490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

He Guys,

 

Well since a couple of days I got my cable modem. At = first I thought GREAT now I can experience enough with FreeBSD….well = that’s the part that indeed happened!

I set up a P1 180 MHz with FREEBSD. Two NIC inserted = ( a 3COM 3c905 and a NE 2000 ) =

 

Whatever I do…. Only one of the cards is = working. Either the 3COM or the NE2000. The other one always = give the error message device = timeout!

Well that turned out to be an mis-configuration with the IRQ’s.

 

I have modified the values of the NE2000 card 10 = times in the KERNEL…did a make depend, make bla = bla bla….   IT STILL DOESN’T work and = I don’t know how to view the IRQ’s on a freebsd machine. How can is see which IRQ’s are in use?!?!?

 

My sister is really boring me with the question when = she is going to get Internet???

 

Come on guys help me get my sister of my back!  J

 

Greets,

 

Sander

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C149E3.7E5D4490-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:12:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE6B37B403 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (we-66-74-164-119.we.mediaone.net [66.74.164.119]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8UHCTZ29926 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009201c149d2$8939c930$0100a8c0@home> From: "PetBuilder" To: Subject: Upgrading Packages. Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:08:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008F_01C14997.DCA58950" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C14997.DCA58950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to do an upgrade of BIND to BIND 9.1.3. I have a clean machine and I loaded FreeBSD 4.4 with a Minimal install = for a DNS machine. I want to upgrade the bind but I do not know how to = upgrade any packages without the ports already loaded on the system. If I wanted to upgrade the package directly from the internet, how would = I go about it? Any help would be grateful, Craig Rose Web-Zonic, Inc. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, = is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, = disclosure or distribution is prohibited.=20 If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by = reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C14997.DCA58950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C14997.DCA58950-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:18:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9600D37B408 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9430 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 17:17:37 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 17:17:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:19:01 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <136102782863.20010930191901@e-box.dk> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: motd In-Reply-To: <20010930172418.A94566@hades.hell.gr> References: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> <14591292291.20010930160730@e-box.dk> <20010930172418.A94566@hades.hell.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org both motd and fortune is working now (found out I can use both simultaneously :) Thanks for all the help. -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk Sunday, September 30, 2001, 4:24:18 PM, Giorgos wrote: GK> S?ren Neigaard wrote: >> Sunday, September 30, 2001, 3:44:52 PM, Kevin wrote: >> >> KG> /etc/motd ? >> KG> I've never bothered changing mine but that's where it says I should if I >> KG> ever did. >> >> I think I will stick to the standard motd too, but how do I activate >> it? GK> If you haven't changed the default /etc/login.conf file it should contain the GK> following: GK> default:\ GK> :passwd_format=md5:\ GK> :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ GK> :welcome=/etc/motd:\ GK> That `welcome' line is what you need to edit, and then run the command: GK> # cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf GK> If you have a very old version of FreeBSD, whose login.conf does not support GK> the welcome= capability, you can always add to your /etc/csh.cshrc the GK> following: GK> test -f /etc/motd && cat /etc/motd GK> and that should take care of it, for you. GK> -giorgos GK> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org GK> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:22: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D61A37B414 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8UHMhdr014522; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:22:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3BB75434.554A27F7@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:19:48 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PetBuilder Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. References: <009201c149d2$8939c930$0100a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org use "Portupgrade" > PetBuilder wrote: > > I am trying to do an upgrade of BIND to BIND 9.1.3. > > I have a clean machine and I loaded FreeBSD 4.4 with a Minimal install > for a DNS machine. I want to upgrade the bind but I do not know how to > upgrade any packages without the ports already loaded on the system. > > If I wanted to upgrade the package directly from the internet, how > would I go about it? > > Any help would be grateful, > > Craig Rose > Web-Zonic, Inc. > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by > reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:27:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44D037B409 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (we-66-74-164-119.we.mediaone.net [66.74.164.119]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8UHPuZ05923; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009801c149d4$6c91bf70$0100a8c0@home> From: "PetBuilder" To: "Scott Corey" Cc: References: <009201c149d2$8939c930$0100a8c0@home> <3BB75434.554A27F7@bsdprophet.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:22:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How? Do I FTP to the location the port is and then type "portupgrade bind-9.1.3.tgz"? Craig Rose Web-Zonic, Inc. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Corey" To: "PetBuilder" Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. use "Portupgrade" > PetBuilder wrote: > > I am trying to do an upgrade of BIND to BIND 9.1.3. > > I have a clean machine and I loaded FreeBSD 4.4 with a Minimal install > for a DNS machine. I want to upgrade the bind but I do not know how to > upgrade any packages without the ports already loaded on the system. > > If I wanted to upgrade the package directly from the internet, how > would I go about it? > > Any help would be grateful, > > Craig Rose > Web-Zonic, Inc. > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by > reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:27:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com (curie.sunesi.com [196.25.112.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5794337B40D for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 81712 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 17:26:13 -0000 Received: from choke.sunesi.net (HELO gerund.futureperfectcorporation.com) (196.25.112.242) by infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 17:26:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 24761 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Sep 2001 17:27:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:27:11 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Walter Betancourt Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache Message-ID: <20010930192710.B24354@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> <4.2.2.20010930125829.00b622f0@popd.betan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010930125829.00b622f0@popd.betan.net>; from walt@betan.com on Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 12:59:06PM -0400 Organization: iTouch Labs X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 2001-09-30 (12:59), Walter Betancourt wrote: > I have startup stuff in rc.conf.local > > does it matter ? That's the wrong place to put it - it'll get run every time a program tries to read the configuration. The rc.conf and rc.conf.local files are to set up configuration only. Rather use /etc/rc.local for your startup stuff. Alternatively, if you want to find out how the packages that are installed on FreeBSD add things to the startup process, look in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory, at the files ending with '.sh'. The apache ports/packages already add themselves this way - it's probably called 'apache.sh'. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 10:45:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe000.worldonline.dk (fe000.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C03437B40F for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31364 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 17:45:28 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe000.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 17:45:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:46:45 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <172104446956.20010930194645@e-box.dk> To: "Freddie Cash" Cc: fcash@bigfoot.vom, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: automatic start of Apache In-Reply-To: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> References: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sunday, September 30, 2001, 6:51:03 PM, Freddie wrote: FC> First, this is not the right list to be asking technical questions on. This list is for new users to FC> discuss their experiences running FreeBSD (the good, the bad, the ugly if needed). If you are FC> unsure how to phrase a technical question for the freebsd-questions list, then post the info you FC> have and ask for suggestions on making it better here. :) Just an FYI for next time. Ok - Så this question as a newbie one, I will try to avoid the same mistake again. Ok I sent this mail to the group, but I get an error trying to send to you. FC> If you want to be able to control its start/stop/restart a la SysV/Linux, then you can create a FC> simple script and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ All the executable scripts in this directory are run at FC> boot time with a "start" argument (for FreeBSD 4+, in 3- it just ran the executable scripts). FC> The easiest script is like so: FC> #!/bin/sh FC> case "$1" in FC> start) FC> echo -n "apache " FC> /usr/local/sbin/apchectl start FC> ;; FC> stop) FC> /usr/local/sbin/apachectl stop FC> ;; FC> restart) FC> /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart FC> ;; FC> *) FC> echo "Usage: $0 {start | stop | restart}" FC> ;; FC> esac I like this method best :) I can see that httpd runs as nobody. Can I change this, and is it a good/bad idea? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 11: 0:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gate.tellurian.net (gate.tellurian.net [216.182.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A339F37B401; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walt99 (unverified [216.182.56.86]) by gate.tellurian.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:00:44 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010930135830.00c8e2a0@popd.betan.net> X-Sender: walterbetanc@popd.betan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:59:26 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Walter Betancourt Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010930192710.B24354@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.2.2.20010930125829.00b622f0@popd.betan.net> <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> <4.2.2.20010930125829.00b622f0@popd.betan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Neil, thats great information, thanks At 07:27 PM 9/30/01 +0200, you wrote: >On Sun 2001-09-30 (12:59), Walter Betancourt wrote: > > I have startup stuff in rc.conf.local > > > > does it matter ? > >That's the wrong place to put it - it'll get run every time a program >tries to read the configuration. The rc.conf and rc.conf.local files >are to set up configuration only. > >Rather use /etc/rc.local for your startup stuff. Alternatively, if you >want to find out how the packages that are installed on FreeBSD add >things to the startup process, look in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d >directory, at the files ending with '.sh'. > >The apache ports/packages already add themselves this way - it's >probably called 'apache.sh'. > >Neil >-- >Neil Blakey-Milner >nbm@mithrandr.moria.org Walt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 13: 4:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe29.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4037B408 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:03:59 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.100.88.16] From: "Gerardo Enrique Paredes" To: "Etherflow" , References: <000001c149d2$bad47490$1c5d33d5@cc131380A> Subject: Re: Make depend, make, make install ...?!?!? Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:04:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C149B8.D7513C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2001 20:03:59.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B388440:01C149EB] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C149B8.D7513C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i am getting the same problem, my machine have a PCI NIC i don't know = wich model, i have tried everything in the kernel, i still ain't got = nothing ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Etherflow=20 To: newbies@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:09 AM Subject: Make depend, make, make install ...?!?!? He Guys, =20 Well since a couple of days I got my cable modem. At first I thought = GREAT now I can experience enough with FreeBSD..well that's the part = that indeed happened! I set up a P1 180 MHz with FREEBSD. Two NIC inserted ( a 3COM 3c905 = and a NE 2000 )=20 =20 Whatever I do.. Only one of the cards is working. Either the 3COM or = the NE2000. The other one always give the error message device timeout! Well that turned out to be an mis-configuration with the IRQ's. =20 I have modified the values of the NE2000 card 10 times in the = KERNEL.did a make depend, make bla bla bla.. IT STILL DOESN'T work and = I don't know how to view the IRQ's on a freebsd machine. How can is see = which IRQ's are in use?!?!? =20 My sister is really boring me with the question when she is going to = get Internet??? =20 Come on guys help me get my sister of my back! J =20 Greets, =20 Sander ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C149B8.D7513C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i am getting the same problem, my = machine have a=20 PCI NIC i don't know wich model, i have tried everything in the kernel, = i still=20 ain't got nothing
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Etherflow=20
Sent: Sunday, September 30, = 2001 10:09=20 AM
Subject: Make depend, make, = make install=20 ...?!?!?

He=20 Guys,

 

Well since a couple of = days I got=20 my cable modem. At first I thought GREAT now I can experience enough = with=20 FreeBSD….well that’s the part that indeed=20 happened!

I set up a P1 180 MHz = with=20 FREEBSD. Two NIC inserted ( a 3COM 3c905 = and a NE=20 2000 )

 

Whatever I do…. = Only one of the=20 cards is working. Either the 3COM or the = NE2000. The=20 other one always give the error message device=20 timeout!

Well that turned out to = be an mis-configuration = with the=20 IRQ’s.

 

I have modified the = values of the=20 NE2000 card 10 times in the KERNEL…did a make depend, make bla bla bla….   IT STILL DOESN’T work = and I don’t know=20 how to view the IRQ’s on a freebsd machine. How can is see which IRQ’s are in = use?!?!?

 

My sister is really = boring me with=20 the question when she is going to get = Internet???

 

Come on guys help me get = my sister=20 of my back!  = J

 

Greets,

 

Sander

------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C149B8.D7513C80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 13:54:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe100.worldonline.dk (fe100.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1334B37B40D for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28784 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2001 20:54:44 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe100.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Sep 2001 20:54:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:56:04 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1521651324.20010930225604@e-box.dk> To: GB Clark II Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: automatic start of Apache In-Reply-To: <01093013473503.38597@prime.vsservices.com> References: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> <172104446956.20010930194645@e-box.dk> <01093013473503.38597@prime.vsservices.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sunday, September 30, 2001, 8:47:35 PM, GB wrote: >>>> stuff about using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts... >> I like this method best :) I can see that httpd runs as nobody. Can I >> change this, and is it a good/bad idea? GCI> Yes, this can be changed with a wrapper or other means. GCI> It depends on what you want to run the web server as. Another non-prived GCI> account should be OK... Root would be very bad...:) Yes I can guess that. I would like it to run as a apache user, how can this be done? Could you give a example please? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 14:26:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from crushed.velvet.net (crushed.velvet.net [62.49.231.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA09A37B40F for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aidan (helo=localhost) by crushed.velvet.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15no59-0002Jv-00; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:25:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:25:03 +0100 (BST) From: Aidan Skinner To: Etherflow Cc: Subject: Re: Make depend, make, make install ...?!?!? In-Reply-To: <000001c149d2$bad47490$1c5d33d5@cc131380A> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Etherflow wrote: > a make depend, make bla bla bla.. IT STILL DOESN'T work and I don't > know how to view the IRQ's on a freebsd machine. How can is see which > IRQ's are in use?!?!? The devices that are dedicted by the kernel will be listed in dmesg. So, if you do the following: dmesg | grep irq at a shell prompt you should get the full list. - Aidan -- http://www.velvet.net/~aidan/ aidan@velvet.net No Fear To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 15:48:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205D937B401 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 15:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from organiza3i9tez ([212.187.65.82]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20010930224609.VNDL28612.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@organiza3i9tez> for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:46:09 +0200 From: "Philip Wagenaar" To: Subject: dead link Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c14a02$03e369f0$5241bbd4@organiza3i9tez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, FreeBSD.org - Document not found The file http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/new-users/index.html does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html. The closest match to your request is http://www.freebsd.org. Please contact the server administrator www@FreeBSD.org. This says it all I guess Gr. Philip Wagenaar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 18:41:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from micro-mania.net (micro1.micro-mania.net [204.214.90.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BA037B40E for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nas1-201.micro-mania.net [204.214.90.201] by micro-mania.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id ABC4A500E6; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:49:56 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:44:02 -0600 (MDT) From: zwade To: Philip Wagenaar Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dead link In-Reply-To: <000001c14a02$03e369f0$5241bbd4@organiza3i9tez> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Philip Wagenaar wrote: PWDate: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:48:15 +0200 PWFrom: Philip Wagenaar PWTo: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org PWSubject: dead link PW PWHi, PW PWFreeBSD.org - Document not found PWThe file PWhttp://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/new-users/index.html PWdoes not exist at this server. You are coming from PWhttp://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html. PWThe closest match to your request is http://www.freebsd.org. Please PWcontact the server administrator www@FreeBSD.org. PW PW PW PWThis says it all I guess Not quite all. It should also say that a certain base-line IQ is required for completion in all areas of life, especially freeBSD. Regards, Z. Wade Hampton Missoula, MT PW PWGr. PW PWPhilip Wagenaar PW PW PW PW PWTo Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org PWwith "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message PW PW Crisis comments and images: http://www.micro-mania.net/zwade -------------------------------------------------------- Honor: "The shortest and surest way to live with honor in the world is to be in reality what we appear to be. --Socrates -------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 30 19:33:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.sectorpc.com (www.rosapantopon.com [207.235.7.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59E937B411 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by www.sectorpc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA25163; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:34:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:34:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200110010934.EAA25163@www.sectorpc.com> To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Cc: From: "gandalf" Subject: C++ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Como conozco las librerias de c++ eb FreeBSD?? Busco las librerias conio.h, grapichs.h, etc... __ , ,-| ~ |\ ,, /\ ('||/__, _ \\ _ || || (( ||| | < \, \\/\\ / \\ < \, || =||= (( |||==| /-|| || || || || /-|| || || ( / | , (( || || || || || (( || || || -____/ \/\\ \\ \\ \\/ \/\\ \\ \\, - Tu correo electrónico gratuito en, Tagoror.com http://www.tagoror.com - Mira todo lo que puedes encontrar en Tagoror ... Buscador, postales electrónicas, citas virtuales, foros de amistad y mucho más http://www.tagoror.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 0: 5:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ocis.ocis.net (ocis.ocis.net [209.52.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B735A37B40C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkside (dial-204.ocis.net [209.52.174.155]) by ocis.ocis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16457; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:05:35 -0700 From: "Freddie Cash" To: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 23:55:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. Reply-To: fcash@bigfoot.com Cc: "PetBuilder" Message-ID: <3BB7B101.6464.6740FED@localhost> In-reply-to: <009201c149d2$8939c930$0100a8c0@home> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v4.0, beta 40) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, this is the wrong forum for asking technical questions. The correct forum would be freebsd-questions. However, this forum can be used to help you form the question or to figure out just which question to ask. :) This forum is mainly for newbies to gather and to discuss their joys/tribulations in using FreeBSD for various projects/reasons. Just an FYI for next time. :) > I am trying to do an upgrade of BIND to BIND 9.1.3. Are you trying to replace the BIND integrated into the FreeBSD base-system, or just want to add 9.1.3 to try out as a possible replacement? > I have a clean machine and I loaded FreeBSD 4.4 with a Minimal install > for a DNS machine. I want to upgrade the bind but I do not know how to > upgrade any packages without the ports already loaded on the system. Couple of different ways. However, first you have to define "upgrade": replace or add? > If I wanted to upgrade the package directly from the internet, how > would I go about it? As a general first rule of thumb, always check the man pages for help. :) If you don't know exactly which man page to check, try a search using "man -k " man -k upgrade or man -k ports or man -k package would be very beneficial. :) As a quick shortcut: check the pkg_add man page. Note the -r option. As a quicker shortcut: consider adding the "portupgrade" package. Cheers, Freddie fcash@bigfoot.com > Any help would be grateful, > > Craig Rose > Web-Zonic, Inc. > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > Linux is for people who hate Windows. FreeBSD is for people that like UNIX. -- unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 0:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com (curie.sunesi.com [196.25.112.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C219237B416 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 96601 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 2001 07:28:25 -0000 Received: from choke.sunesi.net (HELO gerund.futureperfectcorporation.com) (196.25.112.242) by infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 07:28:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 28878 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Oct 2001 07:28:25 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:28:25 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Neigaard?= Cc: GB Clark II , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache Message-ID: <20011001092824.A28783@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> <172104446956.20010930194645@e-box.dk> <01093013473503.38597@prime.vsservices.com> <1521651324.20010930225604@e-box.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1521651324.20010930225604@e-box.dk>; from neigaard@e-box.dk on Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 10:56:04PM +0200 Organization: iTouch Labs X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 2001-09-30 (22:56), Søren Neigaard wrote: > Sunday, September 30, 2001, 8:47:35 PM, GB wrote: > > >>>> stuff about using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts... > >> I like this method best :) I can see that httpd runs as nobody. Can I > >> change this, and is it a good/bad idea? > GCI> Yes, this can be changed with a wrapper or other means. > GCI> It depends on what you want to run the web server as. Another non-prived > GCI> account should be OK... Root would be very bad...:) > Yes I can guess that. I would like it to run as a apache user, how can > this be done? Could you give a example please? Just add an apache user (``pw useradd apache -u 64500''), and change these lines in /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: User nobody Group nobody to User apache Group apache Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 1:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDE137B406 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 01:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA60073; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 01:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 01:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: zwade Cc: Philip Wagenaar , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dead link In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, zwade wrote: > On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Philip Wagenaar wrote: > > PWFreeBSD.org - Document not found > PWThe file > PWhttp://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/new-users/index.html > PWdoes not exist at this server. You are coming from > PWhttp://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html. > PWThe closest match to your request is http://www.freebsd.org. Please > PWcontact the server administrator www@FreeBSD.org. > PWThis says it all I guess > Not quite all. > It should also say that a certain base-line IQ is required for completion > in all areas of life, especially freeBSD. Well it doesn't really say it all. This article is now at the following (pasted) URL, although the web site is a little friendlier. http://www.freeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/index.html Like Sue's documentation, the new-user article itself is out of date, although the copy on my own server (http://andrsn.stanford.edu/FreeBSD/) is a little more up to date. I should revise it, but people seem to find it useful nevertheless--probably for its UNIX basics and basic FreeBSD systems administration. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 4:44: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from primus.vsservices.com (www.e-helpshop.com [63.66.136.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472E337B409 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.vsservices.com (conr-adsl-dhcp-28-213.txucom.net [209.34.28.213]) by primus.vsservices.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f912xOq31801; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gclarkii@vsservices.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: GB Clark II To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren=20Neigaard?= Subject: Re: Re[4]: automatic start of Apache Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:59:27 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> <01093013473503.38597@prime.vsservices.com> <1521651324.20010930225604@e-box.dk> In-Reply-To: <1521651324.20010930225604@e-box.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01093021592704.38597@prime.vsservices.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 30 September 2001 15:56, Søren Neigaard wrote: > Sunday, September 30, 2001, 8:47:35 PM, GB wrote: > >>>> stuff about using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts... > >> > >> I like this method best :) I can see that httpd runs as nobody. Can I > >> change this, and is it a good/bad idea? > > GCI> Yes, this can be changed with a wrapper or other means. > GCI> It depends on what you want to run the web server as. Another > non-prived GCI> account should be OK... Root would be very bad...:) > Yes I can guess that. I would like it to run as a apache user, how can > this be done? Could you give a example please? Look in the httpd.conf file for 'User' and 'Group'. These are the ones you would change, just make sure that your permissions on your files and dirs are proper. > -- > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, > Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk > GB -- GB Clark II | Roaming FreeBSD Admin gclarkii@VSServices.COM | General Geek CTHULU for President - Why choose the lesser of two evils? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 4:44: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from primus.vsservices.com (www.e-helpshop.com [63.66.136.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0866A37B411 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.vsservices.com (conr-adsl-dhcp-28-213.txucom.net [209.34.28.213]) by primus.vsservices.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8UIlZq28371; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gclarkii@vsservices.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: GB Clark II To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren=20Neigaard?= Subject: Re: Re[2]: automatic start of Apache Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:47:35 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200109301651.JAA23450@ocis.ocis.net> <172104446956.20010930194645@e-box.dk> In-Reply-To: <172104446956.20010930194645@e-box.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01093013473503.38597@prime.vsservices.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 30 September 2001 12:46, Søren Neigaard wrote: > Sunday, September 30, 2001, 6:51:03 PM, Freddie wrote: > >>> stuff about using /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts... > I like this method best :) I can see that httpd runs as nobody. Can I > change this, and is it a good/bad idea? Yes, this can be changed with a wrapper or other means. It depends on what you want to run the web server as. Another non-prived account should be OK... Root would be very bad...:) > -- > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, > Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk GB -- GB Clark II | Roaming FreeBSD Admin gclarkii@VSServices.COM | General Geek CTHULU for President - Why choose the lesser of two evils? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 4:44: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from primus.vsservices.com (www.e-helpshop.com [63.66.136.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970D637B413 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.vsservices.com (conr-adsl-dhcp-28-213.txucom.net [209.34.28.213]) by primus.vsservices.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8UIglq28331; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gclarkii@vsservices.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: GB Clark II To: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=F8ren=20Neigaard?= , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: automatic start of Apache Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:42:47 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <14383499415.20010930135737@e-box.dk> In-Reply-To: <14383499415.20010930135737@e-box.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01093013424702.38597@prime.vsservices.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 30 September 2001 06:57, Søren Neigaard wrote: > Where should I put the stuff I want to start at system startup? > > -- > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, > Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk > -- > "Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle." Non-system stuff should be started with a shell script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. If you used the port of apache, then it should have installed one. GB -- GB Clark II | Roaming FreeBSD Admin gclarkii@VSServices.COM | General Geek CTHULU for President - Why choose the lesser of two evils? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 7:32: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA76C37B405 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (we-66-74-164-119.we.mediaone.net [66.74.164.119]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f91EUYj08431; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000701c14a85$12626a70$0100a8c0@home> From: "PetBuilder" To: Cc: References: <3BB7B101.6464.6740FED@localhost> Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:26:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, With regards to bind, I meant replace. I assumed that upgrading meant replacing the old program with the new, thereby "upgrading" the old with the new. I used this forum because I wanted to know how to upgrade "ports or packages" and was using bind as an example. I installed portupgrade and read the man pages but I could not figure it out to make it work. I'm am in the directory of ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.4-stable/All which contains the "bind-9.1.3.tgz" file. What would be the actual command line I would put in the replace the old version of bind with the new? Thanks You, Craig Rose Web-Zonic, Inc. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freddie Cash" To: Cc: "PetBuilder" Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. First, this is the wrong forum for asking technical questions. The correct forum would be freebsd-questions. However, this forum can be used to help you form the question or to figure out just which question to ask. :) This forum is mainly for newbies to gather and to discuss their joys/tribulations in using FreeBSD for various projects/reasons. Just an FYI for next time. :) > I am trying to do an upgrade of BIND to BIND 9.1.3. Are you trying to replace the BIND integrated into the FreeBSD base-system, or just want to add 9.1.3 to try out as a possible replacement? > I have a clean machine and I loaded FreeBSD 4.4 with a Minimal install > for a DNS machine. I want to upgrade the bind but I do not know how to > upgrade any packages without the ports already loaded on the system. Couple of different ways. However, first you have to define "upgrade": replace or add? > If I wanted to upgrade the package directly from the internet, how > would I go about it? As a general first rule of thumb, always check the man pages for help. :) If you don't know exactly which man page to check, try a search using "man -k " man -k upgrade or man -k ports or man -k package would be very beneficial. :) As a quick shortcut: check the pkg_add man page. Note the -r option. As a quicker shortcut: consider adding the "portupgrade" package. Cheers, Freddie fcash@bigfoot.com > Any help would be grateful, > > Craig Rose > Web-Zonic, Inc. > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. > Linux is for people who hate Windows. FreeBSD is for people that like UNIX. -- unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 10:15:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423BA37B41B for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA61541; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: PetBuilder Cc: fcash@bigfoot.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. In-Reply-To: <000701c14a85$12626a70$0100a8c0@home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, PetBuilder wrote: > Sorry, With regards to bind, I meant replace. I assumed that upgrading meant > replacing the old program with the new, thereby "upgrading" the old with the > new. Bind is part of the base system. Installation of a package or port will not overwrite the base system, and both versions will be available to you. You'll have to make sure the system uses what you want. Packages and ports are two ways to install the same software; the first gets a precompiled binary and the second fetches the source code and builds the software on your own machine. Once installed, the software is registered in /var/db/pkg and the method of installation is irrelevant. portupgrade is a way to upgrade software and is another "layer" -- perhaps of simplicity, perhaps of complexity. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 10:54:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2904F37B414 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1403; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:50:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3BB8ACED.BEFC3AC8@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 10:50:37 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PetBuilder Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. References: <009201c149d2$8939c930$0100a8c0@home> <3BB75434.554A27F7@bsdprophet.org> <009801c149d4$6c91bf70$0100a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PetBuilder wrote: > > How? > > Do I FTP to the location the port is and then type "portupgrade > bind-9.1.3.tgz"? "man" is your friend. Do a "man portupgrade", and you will have the answers you need. freebsd-newbies is not the appopriate mailing list for questions like these. Sorry, but it is not. We're all a bunch of newbies here, which means that the probability is very high that someone will give you the *wrong* answer. The proper course of action when seeking a technical answer is to first check the Handbook then the FAQ. If nothing in there, then join the freebsd-questions list. Think about it. Would you rather have an answer from a newbie or an expert? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 12:51:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EEF37B409 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p15.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.15]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA50806 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:51:31 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f91GQm900392 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:26:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:26:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop, 4 MB Ram, Mitac 4023/pccardd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, upgrading with 4 MB seems to be impossible for me. > compile sofar. Now I have two problems: How could I upgrade with those 4 > MB ? Still have the 3.0 CD around. Maybe they support my D-Link > PCMCIA card. In /etc/sysconfig, where all the configuration was done in those days (2.1.5), there is a pcard package mentioned. But pccardd etc dont exist here. Maybe it was included in 2.1.7 or some 2.2. Is there anywhere somebody with a live filesystem of such a system ? Livefilesystems arent mirrored. It is such a nice little box, if only the PCMCIA ethernet card would work ;-) Annelise Anderson mentioned pccardd somewhere, with my D-Link, so I think it might work. Thanks, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 13:33:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nortenet.pt (mar.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9F537B40A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nortenet.pt (v1-pppS45.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.45]) by mail.nortenet.pt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f91KUAx16313 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:30:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3BB8D455.EF8E4E05@nortenet.pt> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:38:45 +0100 From: Guilherme Oliveira Organization: Host-Valley.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19 i586) X-Accept-Language: pt, pt-BR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop, 4 MB Ram, Mitac 4023/pccardd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where I can find FreeBSD 2.X ISO to download ? I've an ancient IBM L40 with only 8MB RAM that I would like to play :) Tnx ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 14:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3664937B40C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 14:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (ip206102032138.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.32.138]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13005; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:30:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200110012130.RAA13005@mail.ezwv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: David Johnson , PetBuilder Subject: Re: Upgrading Packages. Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:30:29 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <009201c149d2$8939c930$0100a8c0@home> <009801c149d4$6c91bf70$0100a8c0@home> <3BB8ACED.BEFC3AC8@acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <3BB8ACED.BEFC3AC8@acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 01 October 2001 01:50 pm, David Johnson wrote: [...] > The proper course of action when seeking a technical answer is to first > check the Handbook then the FAQ. If nothing in there, then join the > freebsd-questions list. Good advice. Actually its not necessary to join the freebsd-questions mailing list to post a question to there. Typically, you will be copied on any responses to your question. Its also a high-volume list so I prefer to read it online: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html Most all of the lists can be read online if you don't care to have all the email. Lots of tips and information can be had just by following the lists casually on subjects that interest you. Another resource to check before posting a question is the mailing list archives: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists I've found that many questions have been asked before and answered. Just be watchful on how old the information is. It might be relevant only to an older version of FreeBSD. Hope this helps make finding information a little easier. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 16: 7:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7161F37B40D for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dial-148-240-101-78.zone-3.dial.net.mx (HELO yahoo.com) (148.240.101.78) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 23:07:13 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3BB8EAD8.F191766@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:14:48 -0500 From: "Adriel Cardenas G." Reply-To: adrielcgx@freebsdmx.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ex-MX, es-ES, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gandalf Cc: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: C++ References: <200110010934.EAA25163@www.sectorpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Como conozco las librerias de c++ eb FreeBSD?? > Busco las librerias conio.h, grapichs.h, etc... Normalmente están bajo /usr/src/include:/usr/include:/usr/inlcude/g++:....etc Saludos _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 17:28:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF9B37B406 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osef.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f920W1dr006398 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:32:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3BB90A5B.92436290@osef.org> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:29:15 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Uptime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just some boasting. bash-2.01$ uptime 5:26PM up 644 days, 15:10, 1 user, load averages: 0.61, 0.15, 0.05 bash-2.01$ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 17:31: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE43937B408 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osef.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f920Ycdr006727 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3BB90AF8.3E76854E@osef.org> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:31:52 -0500 From: Scott Corey Organization: Open Source Education Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Uptime References: <3BB90A5B.92436290@osef.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott Corey wrote: > > just some boasting. > bash-2.01$ uptime > 5:26PM up 644 days, 15:10, 1 user, load averages: 0.61, 0.15, 0.05 > bash-2.01$ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message a little more bash-2.01$ uname -a FreeBSD treefort.org 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Mon Mar 8 10:36:17 MST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 18:51:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 4evermail.com (equinox.4evermail.com [204.92.209.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B38E137B401 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20581 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 01:51:41 -0000 Received: from 24-168-51-252.nyc.rr.com (HELO equinox) (jslivko@24.168.51.252) by equinox.4evermail.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 01:51:41 -0000 Message-ID: <00ac01c14ae4$c9d6eff0$fc33a818@equinox> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Scott Corey" , References: <3BB90A5B.92436290@osef.org> Subject: Re: Uptime Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:51:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What are the machine stats on that machine, whats it used for, what FreeBSD version is it running? -- Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Corey" To: Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:29 PM Subject: Uptime > just some boasting. > bash-2.01$ uptime > 5:26PM up 644 days, 15:10, 1 user, load averages: 0.61, 0.15, 0.05 > bash-2.01$ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 20:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from supermail.mweb.co.za (supermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D398737B40E for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [196.3.240.69] (helo=siberiyan.dyndns.org) by supermail.mweb.co.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15oG80-0004Lr-00; Tue, 02 Oct 2001 05:21:53 +0200 Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5E1A4473; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 05:30:21 +0200 (SAST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 05:30:21 +0200 From: Piet Delport To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Neigaard Cc: Lal Manavado , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: motd Message-ID: <20011002053021.A20314@athalon.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Neigaard , Lal Manavado , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <383627740.20010930135946@e-box.dk> <003701c14a08$64d72660$a96b4382@tocom> <693064880.20010930163703@e-box.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <693064880.20010930163703@e-box.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0 (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 at 16:37:03 +0200, S=F8ren Neigaard wrote: > Monday, October 01, 2001, 1:33:59 AM, Lal wrote: >=20 >>> How do I get my FreeBSD to give me a message of the day on login (I >>> use the csh shell)? >> If you want some interesting motd, add the fllowing line to your >> .cshrc file: >> fortune >> or >> ching > Eeeh Each gives a "Command not found.". Do I need to set some > environment, or? I don't think `ching' is installed by default, and fortune probably isn't in your path by default. Try changing the line to `/usr/games/fortune', or alternately add `/usr/games' to your PATH. --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7uTTNzRUP82sZFCcRAi43AJ0XN7x8ITlFqbHviWdmLL1sMCtK0gCglVve TVHE2aOPFQYmKKQhJmhpOrM= =11l4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 1 20:44:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ericekong.unixtechs.org (nic-131-c121-79.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.121.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE59C37B409 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eric@localhost) by ericekong.unixtechs.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f91I6X513211 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 14:06:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 14:06:33 -0400 From: Eric Ekong To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Keyboard in Console Message-ID: <20011001140633.B7543@ericekong.unixtechs.org> Reply-To: Eric Ekong Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Organization: UNIXTECHS X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.7-12.3mdk i686 up 3:35 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am wanting to use programs like irssi and BitchX via the console in FreeBSD 4.4, but I am having problems with the ALT key mapping correctly. I am using the normal keyboard with the Microsoft windows buttons. Does anyone know how to enable this. i have looked in the keymap section on /stand/sysinstall with no luck. Eric -- Uptime: 1 day, 2:45 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 2:37:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5194B37B40C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 02:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15oLzc-0004XO-0H; Tue, 02 Oct 2001 11:37:36 +0200 Received: from there (520003065079-0001@[217.1.76.174]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 15oLzT-1Y8F4CC; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:37:27 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jens Greven To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Keyboard-Layout in KDE 2.2 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:37:58 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <15oLzT-1Y8F4CC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 520003065079-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I recently got my system up and running fine using FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE. My problem right now is, that I can't choose any keyboard-layouts in KDE(2.2). There are simply none to choose from in KControlCenter. I managed to "germanize" the system by installing the port german/kde2-i18n, so now I can at least choose German as my favourite language. But an according keyboard-layout would be nice, because I can't type the @-sign (I have to use kCharSelect for that), so any help will be asppreiciated!! Jens To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 2:49:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from crushed.velvet.net (crushed.velvet.net [62.49.231.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9676737B406 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 02:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aidan (helo=localhost) by crushed.velvet.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15oMBY-00063g-00; Tue, 02 Oct 2001 10:49:56 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:49:56 +0100 (BST) From: Aidan Skinner To: Jens Greven Cc: Subject: Re: Keyboard-Layout in KDE 2.2 In-Reply-To: <15oLzT-1Y8F4CC@fmrl05.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Jens Greven wrote: > problem right now is, that I can't choose any keyboard-layouts in KDE(2.2). > There are simply none to choose from in KControlCenter. I managed to > "germanize" the system by installing the port german/kde2-i18n, so now I can > at least choose German as my favourite language. But an according You can either use xmodmap(1) to remap your keyboard in X, although I would strongly reccomend you install xkeycaps(1) (/usr/ports/x11/xkeycaps) which will allow you to remap it with a nice pointy-clicky interface. The xmodmap solution will only work in X, if you want to change the console keyboard layout try kcon(1), there are a couple of german keyboard layouts in /usr/share/misc/keycap.pcvt which you can try with kcon -m - Aidan -- http://www.velvet.net/~aidan/ aidan@velvet.net No Fear To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 5:34:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E5237B40A for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 05:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max (ascend-tk-p240.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.240]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA48598; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:34:37 +0200 Received: from bla (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by max (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00341; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:31:39 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:31:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@bla To: Guilherme Oliveira Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop, 4 MB Ram, Mitac 4023/pccardd In-Reply-To: <3BB8D455.EF8E4E05@nortenet.pt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Guilherme. You are in the happy position, with 8MB, to install whatever version of FreeBSD you want. The needlewhole sotosay were my 4 MB and 2.1.5 still has an install floppy for such situations. You'll need some space on your HD. Maybe you just do a minimal install of just /bin. And some packages, lynx, pine, fetchmail, procmail. I dont know of any 2.x isos (that you dont need). All I know is a mirror in Sweden, I think it is ftp2.se.freebsd.org, that still has a 2.x RELEASE for download. Installing via PLIP is fast and uncomplicated. I once bought a german 2.1.5 RELEASE, at a bookshop, sale, and never thought that I could use it..... You may have a copy if you really want it. But it is antique, my ppp is of the newer PicoBSD floppy, and if you have a running 4.x system it is much easier, config files etc, to use this. Best, and tell me how it worked. H. 4.x has a two floppy install, 3.x comes with 1 floppy, maybe you should take this. 3.5 is easy to find, last time I looked around. On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Guilherme Oliveira wrote: > Where I can find FreeBSD 2.X ISO to download ? > > I've an ancient IBM L40 with only 8MB RAM that I would like to play :) > > Tnx ! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 8:45: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nortenet.pt (mar.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0E737B407 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nortenet.pt (v1-pppS5.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.5]) by mail.nortenet.pt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f92Ffcx10203; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:41:39 +0100 Message-ID: <3BB9E238.7D49303F@nortenet.pt> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 16:50:16 +0100 From: Guilherme Oliveira Organization: Host-Valley.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19 i586) X-Accept-Language: pt, pt-BR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop, 4 MB Ram, Mitac 4023/pccardd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > 4.x has a two floppy install, 3.x comes with 1 floppy, maybe you should > take this. 3.5 is easy to find, last time I looked around. Thanks for your answer. I'll try 3.5 in ftp://current.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/ISO-IMAGES/nopkg-3.5-STABLE-20010328-JPSNAP.iso []'s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 10:21:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe090.worldonline.dk (fe090.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE7CC37B403 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24783 invoked by uid 0); 2 Oct 2001 17:21:29 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe090.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 17:21:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:22:44 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1556295923.20011002192244@e-box.dk> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to change a users shell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I change a users shell, after he is created? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk -- "Mind what you have learned. Save you it can." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 10:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6F237B407 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15oTLH-0007Lg-0B; Tue, 02 Oct 2001 19:28:27 +0200 Received: from SAURON (520010085642-0001@[217.229.25.92]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 15oTLE-0Z4po8C; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:28:24 +0200 From: "Jens Greven" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Neigaard?= Cc: Subject: AW: How to change a users shell? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:29:18 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1556295923.20011002192244@e-box.dk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Jens Greven" X-Sender: 520010085642-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > How do I change a users shell, after he is created? > Log in as the user, say "chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash" and have a good time! Jens -- -------------------------------- Visit me at: www.jensgreven.de Mail me at: jens@jensgreven.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 10:39:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4176237B407 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sageone (ppp-208-191-234-119.dialup.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.234.119]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14417; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:39:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011002123914.03f12c60@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:39:14 -0500 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= NeigaardFhcmQ= , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: How to change a users shell? In-Reply-To: <1556295923.20011002192244@e-box.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org man chsh At 07:22 PM 10.2.2001 +0200, S=F8ren NeigaardFhcmQ=3D wrote: >How do I change a users shell, after he is created? > >-- >Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, > S=F8ren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk >-- > "Mind what you have learned. Save you it can." > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. 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Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 12:20:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7101C37B40B for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15oV5U-0001bx-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 21:20:17 +0200 Received: from 213-196-84-217.hosts.streamgate.de ([213.196.84.217] helo=mistered) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15oV5U-0000f0-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 21:20:16 +0200 From: "Jonas Sonntag" To: Subject: AW: Uptime Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 21:21:47 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00ac01c14ae4$c9d6eff0$fc33a818@equinox> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org and why did you restart? =) > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]Im Auftrag von Jonathan M. > Slivko > Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2001 03:52 > An: Scott Corey; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Betreff: Re: Uptime > > > What are the machine stats on that machine, whats it used for, > what FreeBSD > version is it running? -- Jonathan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Corey" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:29 PM > Subject: Uptime > > > > just some boasting. > > bash-2.01$ uptime > > 5:26PM up 644 days, 15:10, 1 user, load averages: 0.61, 0.15, 0.05 > > bash-2.01$ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 14:55: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bubo.vslib.cz (bubo.vslib.cz [147.230.16.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE41B37B401 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from A410A (a410a.kolej.vslib.cz [147.230.152.17]) by bubo.vslib.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F79C81F4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:54:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002f01c14b8d$25cabc80$1198e693@kolej.vslib.cz> From: "Martin Vana" To: Subject: startup Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:56:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How can I put some useful programs like portsentry in to bsd startup? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 14:56:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bubo.vslib.cz (bubo.vslib.cz [147.230.16.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACEB37B409 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from A410A (a410a.kolej.vslib.cz [147.230.152.17]) by bubo.vslib.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id E0AED81F4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:56:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003501c14b8d$4fcb9ae0$1198e693@kolej.vslib.cz> From: "Martin Vana" To: "bsd newbie" Subject: IPv6 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:58:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it useful to compile kernel with IPv6? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 2 16:58: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA94437B403 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max (ascend-tk-p245.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.245]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA45488; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 01:58:01 +0200 Received: from bla (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by max (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA00370; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 01:40:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 01:40:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@bla To: Martin Vana Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: startup In-Reply-To: <002f01c14b8d$25cabc80$1198e693@kolej.vslib.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There might be more elegant solution, but what allways works are simple shellsripts with the extension *.sh in /usr/local/etc/rc.d Shellscripts like: ----portsentry.sh--- portsentry ---------------- Best, H. > How can I put some useful programs like portsentry > in to bsd startup? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 4:15:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tninet.se (zack.tninet.se [195.100.94.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEAC37B405 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 04:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mad (sdu244-231.ppp.algonet.se [195.163.231.244]) by zack.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.2) with ESMTP id 783018.107668.1002zack-s2 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:14:28 +0200 Message-ID: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> From: "Mad" To: Subject: How much space Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:15:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0097_01C14C0D.75782B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C14C0D.75782B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does FreeBSD take with standard installation? ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C14C0D.75782B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does FreeBSD take with standard=20 installation?
------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C14C0D.75782B20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 10: 1:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B7E37B405 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA169; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:01:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3BBB4454.E2C30186@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 10:01:08 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mad Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much space References: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Mad wrote: > > Does FreeBSD take with standard installation? From the FreeBSD Handbook (online at www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/): "A minimal installation of FreeBSD takes as little as 100MB of disk space. However, that is a very minimal install, leaving almost no space for your own files. A more realistic minimum is 250MB without a graphical environment, and 350MB or more if you want a graphical user interface. If you intend to install a lot of third party software as well then you will need more space." David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 15:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E8537B406 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from computer ([62.253.84.76]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20011003222821.ZBWJ23687.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@computer> for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:28:21 +0100 Message-ID: <013801c14c5a$5cff7e20$4c54fd3e@computer> From: "Kastaki" To: Subject: NEWBIE Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:25:52 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am new to Unix, let alone freeBSD, and was hoping on getting some advice on books that are a must to read?? Thanks Kastaki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 15:55: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from koza.acecape.com (koza2.acecape.com [66.9.36.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48C237B406 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from networld (p64-69.acedsl.com [66.114.64.69]) by koza.acecape.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f93MsLH25498; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c14c5e$33797840$0200a8c0@networld> From: "Russell A. Khurshudian" To: "Kastaki" , References: <013801c14c5a$5cff7e20$4c54fd3e@computer> Subject: Re: NEWBIE Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:53:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm learning as well, i got a copy of Annelise Anderson's "FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System For Your Personal Computer", Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD", and i also visit Dan Langille's website (http://www.freebsddiary.org) and http://www.daemonnews.org periodically. I would suggest reading the FreeBSD handbook and learning by creating a user account on your system and trying the commands while you are reading to get to know the system. Also, you might want to take a look at http://www.defcon1.org. I hope that helps, have fun. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kastaki" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: NEWBIE > I am new to Unix, let alone freeBSD, and was hoping on getting some advice > on books that are a must to read?? > > Thanks > > Kastaki > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 16:19: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ubermail.mweb.co.za (ubermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C56F37B406 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [196.3.241.54] (helo=siberiyan.dyndns.org) by ubermail.mweb.co.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15ovGS-0001gb-00; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 01:17:21 +0200 Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D33B430; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 01:19:25 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 01:19:25 +0200 From: Piet Delport To: Kastaki Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEWBIE Message-ID: <20011004011925.B33443@athalon.homenet> Mail-Followup-To: Kastaki , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <013801c14c5a$5cff7e20$4c54fd3e@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <013801c14c5a$5cff7e20$4c54fd3e@computer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0 (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 at 23:25:52 +0100, Kastaki wrote: > I am new to Unix, let alone freeBSD, and was hoping on getting some > advice on books that are a must to read?? I can highly recommend O'Reilly's _Unix Power Tools_, once you're comfortable with Unix basics. It's a never-ending fountain of general Unix tips, techniques and culture, in the form of a thousand pages' worth of of short `articles' on various subject. And you don't have to read it cover-to-cover, can open it instead on a random page each morning for a daily dose of enlightenment. :-) --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7u5z9zRUP82sZFCcRAs7qAKCSQPzcOIvNJcqveG2u9AEh+1OcGgCcCFNt cKCLACxJgdSm2+4mWv8eRSc= =MXcY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 16:20:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ubermail.mweb.co.za (ubermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B197237B403 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [196.3.241.54] (helo=siberiyan.dyndns.org) by ubermail.mweb.co.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15ovI5-0001n0-00; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 01:19:01 +0200 Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB0BA430; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 01:21:06 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 01:21:06 +0200 From: Piet Delport To: Martin Vana Cc: bsd newbie Subject: Re: IPv6 Message-ID: <20011004012106.C33443@athalon.homenet> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Vana , bsd newbie References: <003501c14b8d$4fcb9ae0$1198e693@kolej.vslib.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003501c14b8d$4fcb9ae0$1198e693@kolej.vslib.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0 (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 at 23:58:04 +0200, Martin Vana wrote: > Is it useful to compile kernel with IPv6? Are you going to be using IPv6? If not, you can safely comment out all the IPv6 stuff. At least that's what i'm doing here, with no ill effects yet. --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7u51izRUP82sZFCcRAgeOAJ9qde6XdPtcmuu9W49AM9c+NisYRACfSmGI abQ0UOFlXgt3J1wT41HKbHY= =VDxU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 16:53:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www-2.cdsnet.net (www-2.cdsnet.net [63.163.68.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE7F537B405 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28139 invoked by uid 1018); 3 Oct 2001 23:56:52 -0000 To: freebsd-newbies Subject: Fwd: books [was Newbie] Message-ID: <1002153412.3bbba5c4835b4@www.internetcds.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:56:52 -0700 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: InternetCDS Webmail http://webmail.internetcds.com/ X-ICDSUser: $imapuser Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thought this email from Andrew Moore, *nix guru and member of the FreeBSD 1.0 team, might prove helpful. [forwarded without his permission, but he's a good guy, yadayadayada...] ----- Forwarded message from "Andrew L. Moore" Hi Bob, When in doubt, the O'Reilly books are usually a safe bet. The following recommendations are oriented towards the bias that Web programming is the tool most worth learning at present. Did I ever show you the "UNIX Programming Environment" book? That is still the best introduction to UNIX that I know of. The first half of this book is a quick read and develops a foundation onto which the other pieces will fit much more readily. A book on the shell of your choice, though I would strongly recommend either the Bash shell or the Korn shell. Rather than get a FreeBSD-specific book, you might first try "UNIX System Administration Handbook" by Nemeth, Synder, et al. This covers Linux and FreeBSD as well as Solaris, et al. As you know, Sendmail, DNS, Apache, Postgresql et al. each have their own dedicated tomes. Finally, there are lots of good CGI-scripting books for Perl or Python or Ruby. Rather than seek "how-to" manuals, it is worth taking the time to seek the zen of UNIX, which is basically this: it won't work until you understand it sufficiently to realize that it's not what you wanted after all. Once you've reached this state, then you're free to start looking for Nirvana :) -AM ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 17:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from alaska.net (kitsune.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C557A37B403 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Hobbes.sodorline.home (6-pm3.jdc.alaska.net [209.112.136.6]) by alaska.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03215 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:36:44 -0800 (AKDT) Received: from Hobbes.sodorline.home (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by Hobbes.sodorline.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2219F1E5DB for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:13:08 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:12:48 -0800 (AKDT) From: James Zuelow To: Subject: long device names Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a heterogenous home network - Windows/RedHat/Debian/OpenBSD and now FreeBSD, 4.4 installed yesterday. (Note that I've only been running *nix for about a year, so I am definately not an expert.) While I wait for Annelise's book to arrive, I've been poking around the FreeBSD box and immediately got hit with the long device names. The Linux device names are all short - for example sdb4 - and make sense to me. OpenBSD rearrages things - for example sd1d - but it still makes sense. What in the world is an ad0s1a? I get the ad0 part (first IDE drive), but why s1a instead of just a-z? I'm not asking about how to read df -h or mount partitions, but rather the why the partitions are named like this. Man device didn't help much. It sure does make mounting a cd that much slower (two extra characters to type - gotta be a quarter second at least!) -- James Z. -- "What is a packet, if its chief good and market of its time be but to route and wrap?" (Amazon.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 17:43:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from koza.acecape.com (koza2.acecape.com [66.9.36.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B96237B408 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from networld (p64-69.acedsl.com [66.114.64.69]) by koza.acecape.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f940hLH22869; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c14c6d$6d466240$0200a8c0@networld> From: "Russell A. Khurshudian" To: "James Zuelow" , References: Subject: Re: long device names Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:42:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org s1 means that it is on the first slice (DOS partition). The letters a-h are appended to the device names to uniquely identify the FreeBSD partitions (/, /usr/, /var, /home, etc..) Please correct me if i'm wrong. Also, what is the difference between character and block devices? ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Zuelow" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: long device names > I have a heterogenous home network - Windows/RedHat/Debian/OpenBSD and now > FreeBSD, 4.4 installed yesterday. (Note that I've only been running *nix > for about a year, so I am definately not an expert.) > > While I wait for Annelise's book to arrive, I've been poking around the > FreeBSD box and immediately got hit with the long device names. The Linux > device names are all short - for example sdb4 - and make sense to me. > OpenBSD rearrages things - for example sd1d - but it still makes sense. > > What in the world is an ad0s1a? I get the ad0 part (first IDE drive), but > why s1a instead of just a-z? > > I'm not asking about how to read df -h or mount partitions, but rather the > why the partitions are named like this. Man device didn't help much. It > sure does make mounting a cd that much slower (two extra characters to type > - gotta be a quarter second at least!) > > -- > James Z. > -- > "What is a packet, if its chief good and market of its time be but to route and wrap?" (Amazon.com) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 17:47:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web9303.mail.yahoo.com (web9303.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C07237B401 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20011004004740.19762.qmail@web9303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.81] by web9303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2001 17:47:40 PDT Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:47:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Radhika Sambamurti Subject: Re: NEWBIE BOOKS To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011004011925.B33443@athalon.homenet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A wonderful book I am reading right now is "Essential System Administration" By Aeleen Frisch. Its an O'Reilly publication. She really does a good job about Unix: BSD & system V but also the meaning and what essentially system admin is (hmmm, sounds like she said that already). Personally, i found Unix Powertools too difficult for a newbie and it works much better as a reference manual for specific topics. Just my 2 cents. --- Piet Delport wrote: > On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 at 23:25:52 +0100, Kastaki wrote: > > I am new to Unix, let alone freeBSD, and was hoping on > getting some > > advice on books that are a must to read?? > > I can highly recommend O'Reilly's _Unix Power Tools_, > once you're > comfortable with Unix basics. It's a never-ending > fountain of general > Unix tips, techniques and culture, in the form of a > thousand pages' > worth of of short `articles' on various subject. And you > don't have to > read it cover-to-cover, can open it instead on a random > page each > morning for a daily dose of enlightenment. :-) > > -- > Piet Delport > Today's subliminal thought is: > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature ===== It's all a matter of perspective. You can choose your view by choosing where to stand. --Larry Wall __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 17:48:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499C937B406 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA33AF; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:48:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3BBBB1CF.EA35EDB2@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 17:48:15 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Russell A. Khurshudian" Cc: James Zuelow , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long device names References: <000501c14c6d$6d466240$0200a8c0@networld> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Russell A. Khurshudian" wrote: > Also, what is the > difference between character and block devices? Character devices give you data access byte by byte, like a serial port. Block devices give you access by blocks of data, like a harddrive. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 18: 9:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC24737B403 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (ip206102032145.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.32.145]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07194; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:09:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200110040109.VAA07194@mail.ezwv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: James Zuelow , Subject: Re: long device names Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:09:21 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:12 pm, James Zuelow wrote: > I have a heterogenous home network - Windows/RedHat/Debian/OpenBSD and now > FreeBSD, 4.4 installed yesterday. (Note that I've only been running *nix > for about a year, so I am definately not an expert.) > > While I wait for Annelise's book to arrive, I've been poking around the > FreeBSD box and immediately got hit with the long device names. The Linux > device names are all short - for example sdb4 - and make sense to me. > OpenBSD rearrages things - for example sd1d - but it still makes sense. > > What in the world is an ad0s1a? I get the ad0 part (first IDE drive), but > why s1a instead of just a-z? > > I'm not asking about how to read df -h or mount partitions, but rather the > why the partitions are named like this. Man device didn't help much. It > sure does make mounting a cd that much slower (two extra characters to type > - gotta be a quarter second at least!) Check out the Handbook section on Allocating Disk Space: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html There is some information there about the disk layout and naming that might help some. HTH, Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 20:35:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B65A37B406 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnny2k ([64.229.44.7]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011004033502.PIIN13446.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@johnny2k>; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:35:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> From: "John" To: "David Johnson" Cc: References: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> <3BBB4454.E2C30186@acuson.com> Subject: Re: How much space Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:39:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How much if you want to keep up to date via cvsup ? > > Mad wrote: > > > > Does FreeBSD take with standard installation? > > From the FreeBSD Handbook (online at www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/): > > "A minimal installation of FreeBSD takes as little as 100MB of disk > space. However, that is a very minimal install, leaving almost no space > for your own files. A more realistic minimum is 250MB without a > graphical environment, and 350MB or more if you want a graphical user > interface. If you intend to install a lot of third party software as > well then you will need more space." > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 20:47:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from linus.highpoint.edu (linus.highpoint.edu [192.154.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011937B407 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zhartley@localhost) by linus.highpoint.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f943kPZ04056 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:46:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:46:25 -0400 From: Zach Hartley To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much space Message-ID: <20011003234625.A2102@linus.highpoint.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> <3BBB4454.E2C30186@acuson.com> <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k>; from j.telford@sympatico.ca on Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:39:47PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also I'm sure it could be done with less space, I usually use at least 3 gigabytes for a graphical installation, with the typical software most users need, plus space for CVSuping. HTH Zach Around Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:39:47PM -0400, John thus spake the following: > How much if you want to keep up to date via cvsup ? > > > > Mad wrote: > > > > > > Does FreeBSD take with standard installation? > > > > From the FreeBSD Handbook (online at www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/): > > > > "A minimal installation of FreeBSD takes as little as 100MB of disk > > space. However, that is a very minimal install, leaving almost no space > > for your own files. A more realistic minimum is 250MB without a > > graphical environment, and 350MB or more if you want a graphical user > > interface. If you intend to install a lot of third party software as > > well then you will need more space." > > > > David > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Zachary Todd Hartley "Attempted murder. Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?" --Sideshow Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 20:52:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ubermail.mweb.co.za (ubermail.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1637B405 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [196.3.241.54] (helo=siberiyan.dyndns.org) by ubermail.mweb.co.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15ozXG-0005WT-00; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 05:50:59 +0200 Received: by siberiyan.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D11D23A8; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:53:02 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:53:02 +0200 From: Piet Delport To: John Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much space Message-ID: <20011004055302.F33443@athalon.homenet> Mail-Followup-To: John , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> <3BBB4454.E2C30186@acuson.com> <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ExXT7PjY8AI4Hyfa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.0 (http://www.vim.org/) X-Crypto: gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 (http://www.gnupg.org/) X-GPG-Key-ID: 0x6B191427 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7FF A540 2199 F7BF 1933 5640 CD15 0FF3 6B19 1427 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ExXT7PjY8AI4Hyfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 at 23:39:47 -0400, John wrote: [...FreeBSD disk space usage...] > How much if you want to keep up to date via cvsup ? Tracking -STABLE here: $ du -sh /usr/src 289M /usr/src $ Additionally, you'll probably want a few hundred megs of headroom while building world. After a fresh make world/kernel sequence my /usr/obj tree contains about 290M, which isn't counting temporary files and such. HTH, --=20 Piet Delport Today's subliminal thought is: --ExXT7PjY8AI4Hyfa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7u90ezRUP82sZFCcRAhrVAJ9nYY+pVAPfNH9f0djsPXL2+rdLmACfVVHK fTphziiAwTZbxvPcERoXzpk= =Ofcj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ExXT7PjY8AI4Hyfa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 3 21: 0:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B896337B405 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA82296; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: John Cc: David Johnson , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much space In-Reply-To: <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, John wrote: > How much if you want to keep up to date via cvsup ? To update the base system with cvsup, you need about 325 MB for the source and another 325 of space for the build. The new files are placed in /usr/obj, and after you have built a kernel and installed the new upgraded system, you can delete /usr/obj. This doesn't update the ports collection (the framework for building ports). The ports collection takes about 110 MB now, but updating it with cvsup doesn't require additional space. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 4 0: 6:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ocis.ocis.net (ocis.ocis.net [209.52.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC7337B401 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 00:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkside (dial-178.ocis.net [209.52.175.168]) by ocis.ocis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19959; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 00:06:33 -0700 From: "Freddie Cash" To: James Zuelow , Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:56:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: long device names Reply-To: fcash@bigfoot.com Message-ID: <3BBBA5B3.31014.6578BBF@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v4.0, beta 40) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a heterogenous home network - Windows/RedHat/Debian/OpenBSD and > now FreeBSD, 4.4 installed yesterday. (Note that I've only been > running *nix for about a year, so I am definately not an expert.) > > While I wait for Annelise's book to arrive, I've been poking around > the FreeBSD box and immediately got hit with the long device names. > The Linux device names are all short - for example sdb4 - and make > sense to me. OpenBSD rearrages things - for example sd1d - but it > still makes sense. > What in the world is an ad0s1a? I get the ad0 part (first IDE drive), > but why s1a instead of just a-z? ad = atapi/ata disk 0 = first disk s = slice 1 = first slice a = first partition Basically, harddrives are labelled . The "extra" slice data is in there due to the way FreeBSD does it's partitioning (which, IMO, is one of the best systems I've come across yet). I have a great post on this that I sent to the local LUG. It's on my work comp so I'll send it along in the morn. > I'm not asking about how to read df -h or mount partitions, but rather > the why the partitions are named like this. Man device didn't help > much. It sure does make mounting a cd that much slower (two extra > characters to type > - gotta be a quarter second at least!) I don't see how typing "mount /cdrom" in FreeBSD takes more typing than "mount /mnt/cdrom" in Linux. :) I find that it actually saves 4 keystrokes. :) Cheers, Freddie fcash@bigfoot.com Linux is for people who hate Windows. FreeBSD is for people that like UNIX. -- unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 4 2:16:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from alaska.net (kitsune.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7046B37B406 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Hobbes.sodorline.home (102-pm4.jdc.alaska.net [209.112.136.102]) by alaska.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA22255; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 01:16:44 -0800 (AKDT) Received: by Hobbes.sodorline.home (Postfix, from userid 500) id 212A41E5E4; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:11:27 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:11:26 -0800 From: James Zuelow To: Randy Pratt Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long device names Message-ID: <20011003221126.E1810@Hobbes.sodorline.home> References: <200110040109.VAA07194@mail.ezwv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200110040109.VAA07194@mail.ezwv.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 17:09:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Lines: 50 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001.10.03 17:09 Randy Pratt wrote: > > Check out the Handbook section on Allocating Disk Space: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html > > There is some information there about the disk layout and naming that > might > help some. > > HTH, > > Randy > OK, I see where all the numbers are coming from. So I'm guessing that a Linux partition = an fdisk partition, plain and simple (for primary partitions anyway). This is very much how DOS works - if you want more than 4 partitions (or DOS logical drives) you need to create an extended partition to hold the logical ones. OpenBSD appears to act like Linux, but when I look at the file system with fdisk I see that there are three units (slices?) 0-2 that are not used, and slice 3 uses the entire contents of the disk. Since I have more than one partition, the OpenBSD partitions are hidden inside the slice. Kind of like creating a big DOS extended partition without any primary partitions. FreeBSD uses more than one slice per partition, a slice being the four DOS partitions. There are no 'primary' or 'extended' partitions, in essence a DOS user would look at all four of them as 'extended' partitions that you can create logical drives on (the FreeBSD partitions). Is that more or less technically correct? I grew up on DOS, and understood the Linux ext2 partitioning straight off. OpenBSD appeared very similar from the command line, so I never looked into the inner workings of it (never had any trouble that required looking into). If the FreeBSD device names weren't so long I probably would not have found out about the details for quite a while. Since I don't double boot any of my machines, I've always just chose the 'use the entire disk' option for OpenBSD/FreeBSD without thinking much about it. Thanks for the info guys! -- James Z. -- "What is a packet, if its chief good and market of its time be but to route and wrap?" (Amazon.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 4 2:19:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C0937B409 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15p4ez-0006Ar-00; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 11:19:17 +0200 Received: from SAURON (520010085642-0001@[217.229.23.144]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 15p4eX-0FMGMiC; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:18:49 +0200 From: "Jens Greven" To: Subject: Sound server Problems Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Jens Greven" X-Sender: 520010085642-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have a little Problem with the sound server (artsd I think) on my machine. It's a 900 MHz Celeron with 512 MB RAM and a Creative SB 128 PCI. Recompiling the kernel with the "device pcm" option worked fine, and after "/sh/MAKEDCEV snd0" everything seems to work. But according to "top" this "artsd" consumes about 75% CPU power (it really slows things down...) and if some other processes are running, the sound server frequently crashes with a message "CPU Overload". BTW, I'm using KDE2.2 as WM. What am I doing wrong? Are there other (better) sound servers (just like OSS on Linux)? Please Help, Jens -- -------------------------------- Visit me at: www.jensgreven.de Mail me at: jens@jensgreven.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 4 3:28:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www4.apexmail.com (gateway.apexmail.org [209.53.145.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13C1D37B408 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 03:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 03:28:03 -0800 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "" Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Mailer: ApexMail CGI Client v3.19.00 Message-Id: <8469308861002191283@apexmail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all , I am trying to install freebsd 4.2 release on an IBM thinkpad 560 ( the = one with no internal cdrom / floppy , 133mhz / 40mb ram ) without much s= uccess . The machine came with win95 . I intended to install from an msdos partit= ion but was unable to resize the harddisc partition with various utils = I created kern.flp & mfsroot.flp and decided to install over ftp . Howev= er sysinstall could not dial out . No flashing lights and the phase-> deflink error msgs . B= TW , the modem works fine as a standard serial modem on my desktop box r= unning fbsd4.2release . OK , lets try the pccard cdrom ( a long shot as its as old as the hills = ) .The BIOS could not boot from the cdrom and sysinstall could not detec= t it either ( although I only tried the fault IRQ as Ive no such info ) . At this stage a hasty commit reformatted the hard drive . Not to worry , we can always install / & /bin from floppy . However , th= e floppy drive cannot read discs formatted / written by my desktop flopp= y drive ( or any other machine FTM ) . This leads me to believe that the IBM external drive uses a non = standard format . So at the moment I have a non booting black box sitting on my desk . I a= lso have a laplink cable & zircom realport 10/100 56k pccard but as Ive yet to inst= all a NIC on my other box a green newbie Ive shunned the NFS install . As a reference I used the complete freebsd , handbook & various web site= s . Any ideas / *pointers / good install websites most welcome . Regards , kmcd ApexMail now registers domains! www.apexmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 4 5:48:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C85937B40A for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a077.otenet.gr [212.205.215.77]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f94CmOh25437; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:48:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f94CMep41758; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:22:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:22:39 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much space Message-ID: <20011004152239.A41705@hades.hell.gr> References: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> <3BBB4454.E2C30186@acuson.com> <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 X-URL: http://labs.gr/~charon/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John wrote: > > How much if you want to keep up to date via cvsup ? Hello John, tracking -CURRENT here, and the disk space I am using for keeping the sources to everything and the ports are shown below: hades!root:[/usr/src]# du -sk . 361911 . # after removing all the `work' directories from ports. hades!root:[/usr/ports]# du -sk . 116388 . The real requirements should be somewhat smaller, if you are using CVSup to update the sources (and not CVS, like I do). Those CVS/ directories in each subdirectory of my tree take up some space, which you won't need when updating with CVSup. You should also have about 300 Mb of space in /usr/obj to build the world before installing it. You can nuke the entire /usr/obj when you finish your `installworld' though, and free the space. All this sums up to 350 + 300 + 110 Mb of space. That means you will need close to 800 Mb for the sources of everything, not including the uncompressed source and build directories of any ports you install. If you do not clean your /usr/ports tree very often, you'll need a bit more, since there are ports that require as little as 1 Mb of space to uncompress and build, but there are also ports that need more than a few dozens of Mb (KDE, Gnome, Emacs and TeX come to mind). To have the sources, and their compiled versions, plus some space to store your own personal data and a little breathing space, an installation would probably take close to 2 Gb, IMHO. I hope this helps a bit, -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 4 20:16:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3074037B401 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnny2k ([64.229.44.7]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011005031654.RQYN19597.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@johnny2k>; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c14d4c$d37380e0$0a00000a@johnny2k> From: "John" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <009a01c14bfc$b274ded0$9500a8c0@mad> <3BBB4454.E2C30186@acuson.com> <000601c14c86$371ab3b0$0a00000a@johnny2k> <20011004152239.A41705@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: How much space Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:21:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes - Thanks for taking the time, John. > To have the sources, and their compiled versions, plus some space to > store your own personal data and a little breathing space, an > installation would probably take close to 2 Gb, IMHO. > > I hope this helps a bit, > > -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 5 12:30:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F4A37B40A for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA93166; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Kastaki Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEWBIE In-Reply-To: <013801c14c5a$5cff7e20$4c54fd3e@computer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Kastaki wrote: > I am new to Unix, let alone freeBSD, and was hoping on getting some advice > on books that are a must to read?? I wrote the book mentioned below specifically for users new to UNIX as well as FreeBSD. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 5 17:45: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10D37B408 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from computer ([62.255.36.132]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20011006004457.SUSS29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@computer> for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 01:44:57 +0100 Message-ID: <00e501c14dff$d003e540$4860ff3e@computer> From: "Kastaki" To: Subject: XFree86 & Gnome Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 01:42:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I installed FreeBSD 4.3 (intel) ok....everything went perfect. Went back into /stand/sysinstall and tried to configure the X Window system....could not find my card, so I chose a generic VGA and I also chose a standard VGA Monitor....installed Gnome. When I run startx, Gnome looks like shit (excuse my language). I mean I am not used to working in such a low resolution environment, where even the browser that I installed (netscape) can't bring up a background colour!! My PC is nearly brand new Dell Dimension L1000R. Pentium III 1GHZ, with 256 MB of memory. The VGA is built into the mother board - Intel 810e, with 4MB on board memory. The Monitor is Dell's 17inch and in Windows 2000 I can get 1024 X 768 (true colour 24 bit) @ 60Hz!! I would really appreciate some help as I am moving into a Unix environment and I need a good looking desktop to go with an excellent operating system like FreeBSD!! I am fine using it without the X Window, but I do want to surf the net and I do want to start playing around with other Ports that do require a GUI environment!! Is Gnome really a bad choice or is it the configuration or is it the lack of a suitable driver for my card!! Appreciate some comments!! Kastaki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 5 19:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876AE37B407 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f962A0b23389 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200110060210.f962A0b23389@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 5 20:56:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from linus.highpoint.edu (linus.highpoint.edu [192.154.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CA637B403 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zhartley@localhost) by linus.highpoint.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f963tVl16834 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 23:55:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 23:55:31 -0400 From: Zach Hartley To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 & Gnome Message-ID: <20011005235531.A16534@linus.highpoint.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00e501c14dff$d003e540$4860ff3e@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00e501c14dff$d003e540$4860ff3e@computer>; from kastaki@ganbert.com on Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 01:42:38AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Um, yes, choosing a generic vga video card and a generic vga monitor will guarantee a *shitty* resolution. And, no, gnome is not the problem (though i'm more a kde fan ;). you just need to actually configure X for your system correctly. here's an article i found through google: http://www.osfaq.com/article.php3?sid=67 also, this part of the handbook might help: http://www.freebsd/org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html its at the bottom, and (to me at least) sounds easier than the first way. Either way, not to mock your new computer, but, honestly, what's the point of a 1 gigahertz p3 w/ so much ram when they pair it with such a shitty integrated video card? You might just be better off actually buying and installing an easier to support one. Also, make sure to use version 4.something of X. HTH. Zach Around Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 01:42:38AM +0100, Kastaki thus spake the following: > I installed FreeBSD 4.3 (intel) ok....everything went perfect. > Went back into /stand/sysinstall and tried to configure the X Window > system....could not find my card, so I chose a generic VGA and I also chose > a standard VGA Monitor....installed Gnome. > When I run startx, Gnome looks like shit (excuse my language). > I mean I am not used to working in such a low resolution environment, where > even the browser that I installed (netscape) can't bring up a background > colour!! > > My PC is nearly brand new Dell Dimension L1000R. > Pentium III 1GHZ, with 256 MB of memory. > The VGA is built into the mother board - Intel 810e, with 4MB on board > memory. > The Monitor is Dell's 17inch and in Windows 2000 I can get 1024 X 768 (true > colour 24 bit) @ 60Hz!! > > I would really appreciate some help as I am moving into a Unix environment > and I need a good looking desktop to go with an excellent operating system > like FreeBSD!! > I am fine using it without the X Window, but I do want to surf the net and I > do want to start playing around with other Ports that do require a GUI > environment!! > > Is Gnome really a bad choice or is it the configuration or is it the lack of > a suitable driver for my card!! > > Appreciate some comments!! > > Kastaki > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Zachary Todd Hartley "Attempted murder. Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?" --Sideshow Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 5 21:46:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web14107.mail.yahoo.com (web14107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A9D437B406 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20011006044611.50633.qmail@web14107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.210.192.7] by web14107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 21:46:11 PDT Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Chima Njaka Subject: kernel config problem w/ 3com 574BT To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD v4.4 via the network on my laptop using the 2-floppy bootup. I am using a 3com 574BT NIC which is apparently supported with the 'ep' kernel driver according to the supported hardware documentation. Unfortunately, during the kernel device config, no listing under "Network" is provided for the 'ep' driver. A number of other drivers do show up (not appropriate for my NIC). Am I missing something? How can I configure my kernel correctly to accomplish the rest of the network config? TIA for any help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 6 11:11: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lh09.opsion.fr (lh09.opsion.fr [212.73.208.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8E6537B403 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 212.46.0.243 [212.46.0.243] by lh09.opsion.fr; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:10:43 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:09:46 +0400 From: Eugene Alentiev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) Reply-To: Eugene Alentiev Organization: YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE !!! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <111947229.20011006220946@eurosport.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: page missing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello freebsd-newbies, http://www.ru.freebsd.org/ru/tutorials/new-users/ index page missing -- Best regards, Yan_Ugin mailto:alentiev@yandex.ru ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 6 14:30:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A0237B406 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA97014; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:18:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Eugene Alentiev Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: page missing In-Reply-To: <111947229.20011006220946@eurosport.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Eugene Alentiev wrote: > Hello freebsd-newbies, > > http://www.ru.freebsd.org/ru/tutorials/new-users/ > > index page missing > Not sure if the mirrors do it just as www.freebsd.org does, but if you find under Documention ...More and click on it, then scroll down to FreeBSD First Steps and click on it, you should get the article. Sue's weekly posting to this list has the old link, but there's also a copy of the article kept on my own server, and that link works (and I am updating the article). Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 6 15: 9:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intrigue.willinet.net (intrigue.willinet.net [198.49.30.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 804CE37B406 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 15:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1625 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2001 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from ps18sux.willinet.net (HELO gomer) (mail@205.163.104.19) by intrigue.willinet.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 2001 17:09:12 -0500 Received: from lute by gomer with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15pzbO-0000ke-00 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2001 17:07:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:07:22 -0500 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 & Gnome Message-ID: <20011006170722.A2581@willinet.net> Reply-To: lute@willinet.net References: <00e501c14dff$d003e540$4860ff3e@computer> <20011005235531.A16534@linus.highpoint.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011005235531.A16534@linus.highpoint.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i X-Spam-Rating: intrigue.willinet.net 1.6.2 0/0/N Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Around Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 01:42:38AM +0100, Kastaki thus spake the following: > I installed FreeBSD 4.3 (intel) ok....everything went perfect. > Went back into /stand/sysinstall and tried to configure the X Window > system....could not find my card, so I chose a generic VGA and I also chose > a standard VGA Monitor....installed Gnome. > When I run startx, Gnome looks like shit (excuse my language). > I mean I am not used to working in such a low resolution environment, where > even the browser that I installed (Netscape) can't bring up a background > colour!! > > My PC is nearly brand new Dell Dimension L1000R. > Pentium III 1GHZ, with 256 MB of memory. > The VGA is built into the mother board - Intel 810e, with 4MB on board > memory. > The Monitor is Dell's 17inch and in Windows 2000 I can get 1024 X 768 (true > colour 24 bit) @ 60Hz!! > > I would really appreciate some help as I am moving into a Unix environment > and I need a good looking desktop to go with an excellent operating system > like FreeBSD!! > I am fine using it without the X Window, but I do want to surf the net and I > do want to start playing around with other Ports that do require a GUI > environment!! > > Is Gnome really a bad choice or is it the configuration or is it the lack of > a suitable driver for my card!! > > Appreciate some comments!! > > Kastaki > One thing you need to keep in mind is that you are not using Windows, you have to know some things about the machine you are installing on. Even the auto detect used in some of the install utilities miss the actual hardware you have. I have an old IBM with built-in S3 graphics, and I get a very nice 1024X768 display with it. The only kicker I have is the last time I checked it was still not supported by X 4.x, so still using 3.6. So dig through your manual, find out what you have for built-in graphics, find the scan rates for your monitor, and try again. This can be a real hair puller, (that's one reason I keep my buzzed) but just the fact that you got it going in the first place, crappy display or not, is a good sign. My first attempt to get X up on a Linux install took hours! As far as KDE and Gnome, I don't like either one, but that's just me, I use X to have multiple rxvt windows open at the same time, and to use Netscape on the web. Though I am starting to collect a few more X apps as time goes on. So hang in there, you'll get it. -- Lute -- Inspiring new Signature file pending -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 6 15:22:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAC737B401 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 15:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b055.otenet.gr [195.167.121.183]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f96MM8v14068; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:22:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f96MM8x34751; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:22:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:22:07 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eugene Alentiev Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: page missing Message-ID: <20011007012207.A20252@hades.hell.gr> References: <111947229.20011006220946@eurosport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <111947229.20011006220946@eurosport.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 X-URL: http://labs.gr/~charon/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eugene Alentiev wrote: > Hello freebsd-newbies, > > http://www.ru.freebsd.org/ru/tutorials/new-users/ > > index page missing The translations page of the FreeBSD doc project lists http://www.FreeBSD.org.ua/ as the address where the Russian Translation team makes documents available. A quick search that I did in that page (mind you, I cannot understand Russian) showed that the new-users article hasn't been translated yet. I could be mistaken though, since I can not read Russian and I searched by viewing the source of the HTML pages at www.FreeBSD.org.ua -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message