From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 0:35:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0127E37B402; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020310083529.PTRZ1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:35:29 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A8ZSP23006; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:35:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:35:28 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Steve Kargl Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, arr@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern_linker.c rev. 1.75 and newer cause loading problem Message-ID: <20020310003528.M57999@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020309101325.A26358@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020309101325.A26358@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>; from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu on Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:13:25AM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:13:25AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > Well, I finally have narrowed the problem down to > > Revision 1.75 Fri Feb 22 04:14:49 2002 UTC (2 weeks, 1 day ago) by arr > Branch: MAIN > Changes since 1.74: +1295 -1271 lines > Diff to previous 1.74 (colored) > > - Massive style fixup. > > Reviewed by: mike > Approved by: dfr > > > > To recap: > > root[202] cat /boot/loader.conf > miibus_load="YES" > if_rl_load="YES" > snd_pcm_load="YES" > snd_maestro3_load="YES" > linux_load="YES" > agp_load="YES" > hint.acpi.0.disable="1" > root[203] kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 12 0xc0100000 262e40 kernel > 2 1 0xc0363000 18330 linux.ko ^^^^^ > 3 2 0xc037c000 15480 miibus.ko > 4 1 0xc0392000 7798 if_rl.ko > 5 2 0xc039a000 1a14c snd_pcm.ko > 6 1 0xc03b5000 9538 snd_maestro3.ko > 7 1 0xc03bf000 c860 agp.ko > 8 1 0xcb052000 2000 blank_saver.ko > root[204] kldload linprocfs > kldload: can't load linprocfs: Exec format error > root[206] tail -1 /var/log/messages > Mar 9 10:00:27 kernel: KLD linprocfs.ko: depends on \ > linux - not available > > root[209] kldunload linux > root[210] kldload linux > root[211] kldload linprocfs > root[213] kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 15 0xc0100000 262e40 kernel > 3 2 0xc037c000 15480 miibus.ko > 4 1 0xc0392000 7798 if_rl.ko > 5 2 0xc039a000 1a14c snd_pcm.ko > 6 1 0xc03b5000 9538 snd_maestro3.ko > 7 1 0xc03bf000 c860 agp.ko > 8 1 0xcb052000 2000 blank_saver.ko > 9 2 0xcb425000 14000 linux.ko ^^^^^ > 10 1 0xcab88000 5000 linprocfs.ko Are you sure the same module is being loaded? $ find -x / -name linux.ko -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 7: 7:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB67437B404 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g2AF77D36165 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:07:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:07:07 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with that particular batch of machines, since no one else had had a problem, and I didn't really have time to follow up. Yesterday, I brought online two more crash boxes via serial console, both older TeleNet servers, and noticed that neither of them respond to serial break over the serial console using cu. This leads me to wonder two things: (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? I have't had a chance to follow up on either, but was wondering if anyone else had experienced this? Essentially, hitting ~# in cu no longer results in boxes dropping to the debugger. Enabling the alternative break and using ~^B works fine, and Ctrl-Alt-Escape works fine on the real console. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 7:11:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE36137B404; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2AFBQp18460; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:11:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:11:26 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Robert Watson Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:07AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:07AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical > test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial > break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option > in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with > that particular batch of machines, since no one else had had a problem, > and I didn't really have time to follow up. Yesterday, I brought online > two more crash boxes via serial console, both older TeleNet servers, and > noticed that neither of them respond to serial break over the serial > console using cu. This leads me to wonder two things: > > (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT > (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? I had similar experiences with tip trying to break into ddb on the AlphaStation DS10 with -current. I thought it was just me ;-) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 8:46:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8E937B416; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (myhakas.estpak.ee [194.126.115.54]) by zen.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E3D6E918; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:46:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AGke7t021430; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:46:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo@myhakas.estpak.ee) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2AGkeWa021429; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:46:40 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:46:40 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Robert Watson Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: <20020310164640.GA21339@myhakas.estpak.ee> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:07AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT > (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? > > I have't had a chance to follow up on either, but was wondering if anyone > else had experienced this? Essentially, hitting ~# in cu no longer > results in boxes dropping to the debugger. Enabling the alternative break > and using ~^B works fine, and Ctrl-Alt-Escape works fine on the real > console. I've been unable to send break using -current cu to some Cisco's which I had to configure recently. Ecu from ports did work however. As I was -stable user some weeks ago I know that cu in -stable did work. The other thing I noticed was that -current cu handles speed switch differently, e.g.: stable: cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -9600 works well current: cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -9600 will connect to cuaa0 not cuaa1.. -s 9600 will work however. What I recall is that some time back uucp was shaken out of base system and cu also, cu's functionality was folded back to tip. Stable indeed has different tip and cu binaries, in -current there's hard link. -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 8:49:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.pair.com (relay1.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FEE337B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 39954 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2002 16:49:21 -0000 Received: from 12-236-89-83.client.attbi.com (HELO ?10.1.1.118?) (12.236.89.83) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2002 16:49:21 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 12.236.89.83 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:49:16 -0800 To: Wilko Bulte , Robert Watson From: Mark Peek Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:11 PM +0100 3/10/02, Wilko Bulte wrote: >On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:07AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: >> >> For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical >> test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial >> break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option >> in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with >> that particular batch of machines, since no one else had had a problem, >> and I didn't really have time to follow up. Yesterday, I brought online >> two more crash boxes via serial console, both older TeleNet servers, and >> noticed that neither of them respond to serial break over the serial >> console using cu. This leads me to wonder two things: >> >> (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT >> (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? > >I had similar experiences with tip trying to break into ddb on the >AlphaStation DS10 with -current. I thought it was just me ;-) Hitting ~# in tip worked fine for me with a -current CVSup'd from yesterday. However, it did stump me for a second until I realized I was initially escaping into SSH and not tip. Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 8:54:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5366437B404; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867E71E130; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13754; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:54:50 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id IAA01996; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:54:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203101654.IAA01996@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:54:49 -0800 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.4/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD stash.attlabs.att.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Fri Mar 8 18:16:53 PST 2002 fenner@stash.attlabs.att.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STASHNOV6 i386 responds to a break from a Cisco terminal server, invoked by /usr/ports/comms/conserver: FreeBSD/i386 (stash.attlabs.att.com) (ttyd0) login: Mar 9 21:35:57 stash savecore: reboot after panic: from debugger Mar 9 21:36:02 stash savecore: reboot after panic: from debugger lock order reversal 1st 0xc0468a40 allproc @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:452 2nd 0xc1423734 filedesc structure @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:457 [halt sent] Stopped at siointr1+0xb1: jmp siointr1+0x1b7 db> I don't have any directly connected ports, so can't coment on "cu". Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 8:56:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C91637B402; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2AGuQw18754; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:56:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:56:26 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mark Peek Cc: Robert Watson , current@FreeBSD.org, gallatin@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: <20020310175626.A18718@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mp@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 08:49:16AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 08:49:16AM -0800, Mark Peek wrote: > At 4:11 PM +0100 3/10/02, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:07AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > >> > >> For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical > >> test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial > >> break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option > >> in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with > >> that particular batch of machines, since no one else had had a problem, > >> and I didn't really have time to follow up. Yesterday, I brought online > >> two more crash boxes via serial console, both older TeleNet servers, and > >> noticed that neither of them respond to serial break over the serial > >> console using cu. This leads me to wonder two things: > >> > >> (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT > >> (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? > > > >I had similar experiences with tip trying to break into ddb on the > >AlphaStation DS10 with -current. I thought it was just me ;-) > > Hitting ~# in tip worked fine for me with a -current CVSup'd from > yesterday. However, it did stump me for a second until I realized I > was initially escaping into SSH and not tip. Let me clarify: the DS10 is running -current, the x86 that has tip running is on -stable. It could be that the DS10 was sufficiently catatonic to not react to a break (how likely is that in the first place? I was looking at a hard lockup). Now that I followed Drew's suggestion to I suggest reverting rev 1.61 of alpha/alpha/interrupt.c (eg, disable interrupt thread preemption). I'm on the west coast right now, away from my alphas, but I had several buildworlds complete last week with ithread preemption disabled. Drew I have not seen a lockup anymore. I also had to take out options SMP in order to get the kernel link. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 9:19: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D34837B404; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g2AHIxV34049; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:18:53 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, arr@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern_linker.c rev. 1.75 and newer cause loading problem Message-ID: <20020310091853.A33945@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20020309101325.A26358@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20020310003528.M57999@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020310003528.M57999@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cjc@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 12:35:28AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 12:35:28AM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:13:25AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: [snip] > > root[203] kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > > 1 12 0xc0100000 262e40 kernel > > 2 1 0xc0363000 18330 linux.ko > ^^^^^ > > 9 2 0xcb425000 14000 linux.ko > ^^^^^ > > Are you sure the same module is being loaded? > > $ find -x / -name linux.ko Yes, I am sure. kargl[204] kldconfig -r /boot/kernel;/boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/modules kargl[205] ls /boot/modules/ kargl[206] ls /modules/ ls: /modules/: No such file or directory kargl[208] ls -l /boot/kernel/lin* -rw------- 1 root wheel 15432 Mar 9 09:50 /boot/kernel/linker.hints -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19581 Mar 9 09:50 /boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 97319 Mar 9 09:50 /boot/kernel/linux.ko* kargl[213] find /boot -name linux\* /boot/kernel/linux.ko <-- Built at same time as 1.75 /boot/kernel.old/linux.ko <-- Built at same time as 1.74 /boot/sgk/linux.ko <-- not relevant see search path /boot/kargl/linux.ko <-- not relevant see search path kargl[214] cmp /boot/kernel/linux.ko /boot/kernel.old/linux.ko kargl[215] cmp /boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko /boot/kernel.old/linprocfs.ko As I said, if I backup to revision 1.74 of kern_linker.c, then everything works. If I use revision 1.75 or newer, then you see the above problem. I haven't found the actual problem in kern_linker.c because it is a huge diff. kargl[220] diff -u /root/kern_linker.c-1.74 /root/kern_linker.c-1.75 |wc 2956 12329 102757 -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 9:30:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB64D37B402 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16k79l-00064t-01; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:30:49 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AGcHdr077947 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:38:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2AGcH3k077946 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:38:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Watson wrote: > (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT I can drop just fine into ddb with a serial break on my -CURRENT AlphaPC164. My kernel configuration has option BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. > (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? Works just fine from abovementioned alpha to my sparc. I don't have a pair of FreeBSD boxes tied together like that. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 10:31: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FFD37B426 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16k85f-0001aP-00; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:30:39 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AIFsdr080588 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:15:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2AIFsR8080587 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:15:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020310175626.A18718@freebie.xs4all.nl> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: > It could be that the DS10 was sufficiently catatonic to not react to > a break (how likely is that in the first place? I was looking at a hard > lockup). If you experience one of the lockups that currently plague -CURRENT/alpha, the machine won't react to break, ctrl-alt-esc, or anything else except HALT and RESET. > Now that I followed Drew's suggestion to > > > I suggest reverting rev 1.61 of alpha/alpha/interrupt.c (eg, disable > interrupt thread preemption). > > > I have not seen a lockup anymore. Neither have I, but I have only been running with it for a day, and it has previously managed to survive for up to two days without locking up. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 10:36: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D27E37B433; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AIYsnp047755; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:34:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: arch@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: GEOM code ready for testing From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:34:54 +0100 Message-ID: <47754.1015785294@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The GEOM code is now ready for early testing: http://phk.freebsd.dk/geom There is a known timing issue with ATA controllers with both a master and a slave disk, sos@ and I are looking into it. Apart from that it "should just work". Email all reports to me and don't annoy the lists yet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 10:38:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8F037B66A; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0441.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.186] helo=mindspring.com) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16k8Cv-0000jY-00; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:38:10 -0800 Message-ID: <3C8BA801.2935DFB1@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:37:53 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Watson wrote: > For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical > test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial > break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option > in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with > that particular batch of machines, since no one else had had a problem, > and I didn't really have time to follow up. Yesterday, I brought online > two more crash boxes via serial console, both older TeleNet servers, and > noticed that neither of them respond to serial break over the serial > console using cu. This leads me to wonder two things: > > (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT > (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? > > I have't had a chance to follow up on either, but was wondering if anyone > else had experienced this? Essentially, hitting ~# in cu no longer > results in boxes dropping to the debugger. Enabling the alternative break > and using ~^B works fine, and Ctrl-Alt-Escape works fine on the real > console. The break signal is "At least 250ms of marking space" (line silence), according to the Bell 103C and 212A and B standards. There are two ways that UNIX programs try to do this; the first is an ioctl() for "send a break"; the second is to set the baud rate to 0, and then set it back after a sufficient time. You should check to see if both approaches (the working one and the non-working one) are trying to use the same approach, or not. If they aren't, it could be something as simple as the number of loops before the baud rate is set back is wrong for your clock speed, and the loops should be replaced with a call to nanosleep. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 10:40:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574B337B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g2AIeQD47233 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just noticed the following for the first time today? (a) b_to_q console message, and (b), the truncated 'Mar' which presumably has to do with syslogd getting killed, some buffer getting flushed, or the like. The b_to_q thing is what I'm wondering about. # reboot Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot: rebooted by root Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot: rebooted by root Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot: rebooted by root b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks. MarWaiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... done Uptime: 16m12s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 11:39:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A1437B402 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2AJdVt19529; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:39:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:39:31 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: <20020310203931.D19456@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020310175626.A18718@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from naddy@mips.inka.de on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 06:15:53PM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 06:15:53PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > It could be that the DS10 was sufficiently catatonic to not react to > > a break (how likely is that in the first place? I was looking at a hard > > lockup). > > If you experience one of the lockups that currently plague > -CURRENT/alpha, the machine won't react to break, ctrl-alt-esc, or > anything else except HALT and RESET. > > > Now that I followed Drew's suggestion to > > > > > > I suggest reverting rev 1.61 of alpha/alpha/interrupt.c (eg, disable > > interrupt thread preemption). > > > > > > I have not seen a lockup anymore. > > Neither have I, but I have only been running with it for a day, and > it has previously managed to survive for up to two days without > locking up. Well, I had a close to 100% lockup or panic chance when I ran a make release. I just completed a succesful buildworld, and will subsequently run a make release. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ FreeBSD core team secretary |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 12: 9:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BB037B402; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-1120ab2.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.41.98] helo=europa2) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16k9di-0004aI-00; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:09:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020310150813.00daf458@imatowns.com> X-Sender: ggombert@imatowns.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:08:13 -0500 To: Robert Watson , current@FreeBSD.org From: Glenn Gombert Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just rebuilt -current on two development machines I use here at home, the serial break "contol-alt-escape" appears to work fine on a stand-alone vox. >(1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT If I do a 'tip com1' from one box to the other and then do an 'control-alt-escape' it breaks into ddd just fine as well : >(2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? > Glenn Gombert ggombert@imatowns.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 12:38:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from herbelot.dyndns.org (d211.dhcp212-198-26.noos.fr [212.198.26.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4979A37B404 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from herbelot.com (tulipe.herbelot.nom [192.168.1.5]) by herbelot.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA79680 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:38:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry@herbelot.com) Message-ID: <3C8BC449.B0261E76@herbelot.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:38:33 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: slight patch to ata-all.c Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A157D447F60D3CCD4D42A96D" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A157D447F60D3CCD4D42A96D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello [on a very recent -Current] wtih the Werror compile flag, I can't compile src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c on a PC with nothing more than a single IDE disk TfH patch enclosed --------------A157D447F60D3CCD4D42A96D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="diff.ata" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="diff.ata" --- ata-all.c Sun Mar 10 21:32:21 2002 +++ ata-all.c.new Sun Mar 10 20:44:15 2002 @@ -274,10 +274,12 @@ ataioctl(dev_t dev, u_long cmd, caddr_t addr, int32_t flag, struct thread *td) { struct ata_cmd *iocmd = (struct ata_cmd *)addr; +#if defined(DEV_ATAPICD) || defined(DEV_ATAPIFD) || defined(DEV_ATAPIST) struct ata_device *atadev; + caddr_t buf; +#endif struct ata_channel *ch; device_t device = devclass_get_device(ata_devclass, iocmd->channel); - caddr_t buf; int error, s; if (cmd != IOCATA) --------------A157D447F60D3CCD4D42A96D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 13:11:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3FC37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-1120ab2.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.41.98] helo=europa2) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16kAb4-0006hq-00; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:11:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020310160933.00dae0a8@imatowns.com> X-Sender: ggombert@imatowns.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:09:33 -0500 To: Jeff Roberson , current@freebsd.org From: Glenn Gombert Subject: Re: Call for UMA (allocator) testers. In-Reply-To: <20020307183325.K92683-100000@mail.chesapeake.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the UMA patch installed on two systems here, a 500Mhz K7 system and dual PIII SMP box, both of which have WITNESS and INVARIANTS configured in the kernel. I will run them for the next few days, and report anything that looks unusual in operation :) GG. >I'd like people to test with WITNESS and INVARIANTS, although with these >options on it is somewhat slower than the original kernel. With these >disabled it is on par. If you have a SMP machine you will get witness >warnings if you run low on memory. There is no real problem except that >witness doesn't understand that the condition is safe. > >If you do test this patch, please send me an email so I know how many >people are using this. If you get a lock order violation other than >"acquring duplicate lock of same type" please let me know. If you get a >panic, please give me a stack trace (tr in ddb) and the output of "call >uma_print_stats" in the debugger if that is possible. > >This has been debugged and tested over several months so it is quite >stable for me. Hopefully it will be stable for you too. :-) > >The patch and new files are available at: >http://www.chesapeake.net/~jroberson/uma.tar > >Untar into src/sys and apply the patch. After you rerun config you should >be ready to compile. > >Thanks, >Jeff > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Glenn Gombert ggombert@imatowns.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 13:13:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from herbelot.dyndns.org (d211.dhcp212-198-26.noos.fr [212.198.26.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC8A37B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from herbelot.com (tulipe.herbelot.nom [192.168.1.5]) by herbelot.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA79739 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:13:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry@herbelot.com) Message-ID: <3C8BCC81.9552EFBD@herbelot.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:13:37 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: error message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is the following message serious ? Mar 10 21:49:17 multi kernel: witness_get: witness exhausted is there anything special to do ? this is on a newly cvsuped, very lightly loaded, -Current (4 minutes after booting the machine) TfH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 13:34:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx7.mail.ru (mx7.mail.ru [194.67.57.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80A137B405; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from h196.228.dialup.iptcom.net ([212.9.228.196]) by mx7.mail.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 16kAxd-0003Zb-00; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:34:35 +0300 Subject: Re: kern_linker.c rev. 1.75 and newer cause loading problem From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: Steve Kargl , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, arr@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020310003528.M57999@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020309101325.A26358@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20020310003528.M57999@blossom.cjclark.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-NkI9doMPdrxQhSBxHWqO" Message-Id: <1015795965.527.0.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 10 Mar 2002 23:33:44 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-NkI9doMPdrxQhSBxHWqO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Should be fixed in rev.1.78. -Maxim On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 10:35, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:13:25AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > Well, I finally have narrowed the problem down to > >=20 > > Revision 1.75 Fri Feb 22 04:14:49 2002 UTC (2 weeks, 1 day ago) by arr=20 > > Branch: MAIN=20 > > Changes since 1.74: +1295 -1271 lines > > Diff to previous 1.74 (colored) > >=20 > > - Massive style fixup. > >=20 > > Reviewed by: mike > > Approved by: dfr > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > To recap: > >=20 > > root[202] cat /boot/loader.conf > > miibus_load=3D"YES" > > if_rl_load=3D"YES" > > snd_pcm_load=3D"YES" > > snd_maestro3_load=3D"YES" > > linux_load=3D"YES" > > agp_load=3D"YES" > > hint.acpi.0.disable=3D"1" > > root[203] kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > > 1 12 0xc0100000 262e40 kernel > > 2 1 0xc0363000 18330 linux.ko > ^^^^^ > > 3 2 0xc037c000 15480 miibus.ko > > 4 1 0xc0392000 7798 if_rl.ko > > 5 2 0xc039a000 1a14c snd_pcm.ko > > 6 1 0xc03b5000 9538 snd_maestro3.ko > > 7 1 0xc03bf000 c860 agp.ko > > 8 1 0xcb052000 2000 blank_saver.ko > > root[204] kldload linprocfs > > kldload: can't load linprocfs: Exec format error > > root[206] tail -1 /var/log/messages > > Mar 9 10:00:27 kernel: KLD linprocfs.ko: depends on \ > > linux - not available > >=20 > > root[209] kldunload linux > > root[210] kldload linux > > root[211] kldload linprocfs > > root[213] kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > > 1 15 0xc0100000 262e40 kernel > > 3 2 0xc037c000 15480 miibus.ko > > 4 1 0xc0392000 7798 if_rl.ko > > 5 2 0xc039a000 1a14c snd_pcm.ko > > 6 1 0xc03b5000 9538 snd_maestro3.ko > > 7 1 0xc03bf000 c860 agp.ko > > 8 1 0xcb052000 2000 blank_saver.ko > > 9 2 0xcb425000 14000 linux.ko > ^^^^^ > > 10 1 0xcab88000 5000 linprocfs.ko >=20 > Are you sure the same module is being loaded? >=20 > $ find -x / -name linux.ko > --=20 > Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu > | cjclark@jhu.edu > http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 --=-NkI9doMPdrxQhSBxHWqO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8i9D9oNu5t4iCBa8RAu+QAJ9IsxAdj2ipVIJOKu+mEy/4qjqm7wCeJOND EWwapn6xwg7yqkyHCT7M8Cc= =D54n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NkI9doMPdrxQhSBxHWqO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 15:53: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1B737B400; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:00 -0800 Received: from 202.98.16.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:52:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.98.16.2] From: "Liu Siwei" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:52:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2002 23:53:00.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5B0F930:01C1C88E] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, my machine is FreeBSD-current. No, PAM is in /etc/pam.d for ftpd, telnetd ..etc. But why I can ftp to my machine on my own machine but it doesn't allow any other machine ftp to my machine( MS client)? Best Regard. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 15:53:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f41.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599E37B400; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:44 -0800 Received: from 202.98.16.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:53:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.98.16.2] From: "Liu Siwei" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:53:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2002 23:53:44.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[D02C25F0:01C1C88E] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed mozilla 0.9.8 from port,(my system is current), and jdk1.3.1 and flash plugs-in for mozilla. I get the following Error message: Script started on Sun Mar 10 22:36:37 2002 >mozilla LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/plugins/npflash.so [/usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/plugins/npflash.so: Undefined symbol "XtRemoveTimeOut"] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol "XtShellStrings"] >exit exit Script done on Sun Mar 10 22:36:48 2002 why? _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 17: 3:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9380737B420; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71E1E7831E; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:33:30 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:33:30 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Robert Watson Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: <20020311113330.F36158@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 10 March 2002 at 10:07:07 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical > test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial > break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option > in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with > that particular batch of machines, since no one else had had a problem, > and I didn't really have time to follow up. Yesterday, I brought online > two more crash boxes via serial console, both older TeleNet servers, and > noticed that neither of them respond to serial break over the serial > console using cu. This leads me to wonder two things: > > (1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT Yes, I think so. > (2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? No opinion, since I haven't tried using it. What I have observed is: I use the same gdb for remote serial debugging both for FreeBSD and Linux (ia32). That's right, it's a FreeBSD box running FreeBSD gdb in both cases. I can break to the Linux kernel, but not to the FreeBSD kernel. From this, I conclude that it's a kernel issue, not a gdb issue. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 17:17:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD6B37B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0364.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.109] helo=mindspring.com) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16kERH-0003dA-00; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:17:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3C8C0591.E63B524B@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:17:05 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: error message References: <3C8BCC81.9552EFBD@herbelot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry Herbelot wrote: > is the following message serious ? > Mar 10 21:49:17 multi kernel: witness_get: witness exhausted > > is there anything special to do ? > > this is on a newly cvsuped, very lightly loaded, -Current (4 minutes > after booting the machine) You need to let it rest... there are so many people testing it that it's getting tired! 8-). Actually, you need to look at where the error message is generated, which will tell you that it's running out of the things returned by "witness_get". Then increase the compile time constant that controls them, and you won't run out any more. In theory, the only thing that will suffer from this is that some things will not be "witnessed" correctly, which means that you could have any of the problems witness ordinarily catches for you, but not know about them. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 20:41:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586E237B404 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g2B4fEo84500; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:41:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2B4eMEL042782; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:40:22 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2B4eMS05197; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:40:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:40:21 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? Message-ID: <20020311044020.GE4295@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20020310161126.A18441@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020310175626.A18718@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 06:15:53PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > It could be that the DS10 was sufficiently catatonic to not react to > > a break (how likely is that in the first place? I was looking at a hard > > lockup). > > If you experience one of the lockups that currently plague > -CURRENT/alpha, the machine won't react to break, ctrl-alt-esc, or > anything else except HALT and RESET. My testbox (NoName) doesn't even react on halt. But in the normal case a serial break just does what it should do. Serial client is tip from 4.3-20010630-STABLE. My notebook is running -current from 15th feb and tip's break also worked always fine. Well sending the break sequence against an ssh or not after a linebreak are typical mistakes in usage. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 22: 0:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA3337B404; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020311060012.MSAC1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:00:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA61496; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:46:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:46:48 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Glenn Gombert Cc: Robert Watson , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20020310150813.00daf458@imatowns.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG serial break is different.. it is suppoesed to break into the d debugger if it receives a "BREAK" (i.e framing error) in the serial port. cu ,tip and other such programs have an escape sequence to "send a break" julian On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Glenn Gombert wrote: > I just rebuilt -current on two development machines I use here at home, the > serial break "contol-alt-escape" appears to work fine on a stand-alone vox. > > > >(1) Is serial break currently broken in -CURRENT > > If I do a 'tip com1' from one box to the other and then do an > 'control-alt-escape' it breaks into ddd just fine as well : > > >(2) Is serial break currently broken in 'cu'? > > > > Glenn Gombert > ggombert@imatowns.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 22: 2: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tmdbdc.tmd.tp.edu.tw (tmdbdc.tmd.tp.edu.tw [210.60.235.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5C537B404 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.tmd.tp.edu.tw with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:31:34 +0800 Received: from tmdbdc.tmd.tp.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tmdbdc.tmd.tp.edu.tw with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GMC3THDD; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 02:15:57 +0800 Received: from 210.64.58.195 by tmdbdc.tmd.tp.edu.tw (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 07 Mar 2002 02:15:45 +0800 From: libertyHGH301510@btamail.net.cn Reply-To: libertyHGH@btamail.net.cn To: currens@mindspring.com Subject: == Feel & Look 10 Years Younger in 10 Weeks With HGH == 30151076 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:12:52 -0800 Message-Id: <20020311060200.AA5C537B404@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One more bulk email --- aren't you the least bit curious to find out what it's about? 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Message-ID: <20020311063258.GA71378@tara.freenix.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20020308225829.A21023@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020308225829.A21023@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT K6-3D/266 & 2x PIII/800 SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Steve Kargl: > root[202] kldload linprocfs > kldload: can't load linprocfs: Exec format error > > The following message is on the system console: > > KLD linprocfs.ko: depends on linux - not available I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one with that problem... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 5.0-CURRENT #80: Sun Jun 4 22:44:19 CEST 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 22:45: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4E837B404 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g2B6irL60390; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:44:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: gnn@neville-neil.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: References: <20020306175942D.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 12 From: Makoto Matsushita To: julian@elischer.org Subject: Re: gtags? htags? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:44:44 +0900 Message-Id: <20020311154444O.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG julian> It might be an idea if the kernel were kept separate because I julian> find that the cross-reference is good but having kernel and julian> userspace mixed up is a bit confusing.. Ok, I've separated the tour into 'kernel' part and 'userland' part (5-current kernel is now processing). Tour entrance is the same URL: http://snapshots.jp.FreeBSD.org/tour/ -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 23: 0:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F5D37B404; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id D144F4B6A6; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:00:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:00:28 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: current@FreeBSD.org Cc: portmgr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Package set for release media Message-ID: <20020311070028.GK2845@freebsdmall.com> Reply-To: re@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone have suggestions for additional packages that should be included on the upcoming Developer Preview snapshot that are not already listed in src/release/scripts/print-cdrom-packages.sh? The only changes since the release of 4.5 have been the inclusion of samba and the upgrade to emacs21. Please send suggested packages to portmgr@ and re@; no need to flood the list. Thanks, - Murray --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8jFYMtNcQog5FH30RAo/9AKCYXe2IXTaV3nN59bTlxtsjCsjJIgCgicuQ fYj5lBaSOYk3j8NqRFp9Ve4= =WkLG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 23:25: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C6637B405; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA07408; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:24:49 +1100 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:26:05 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Robert Watson , Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? In-Reply-To: <20020310164640.GA21339@myhakas.estpak.ee> Message-ID: <20020311181940.X5606-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > work. The other thing I noticed was that -current cu handles speed > switch differently, e.g.: > stable: cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -9600 works well > current: cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -9600 will connect to cuaa0 not > cuaa1.. -s 9600 will work however. > What I recall is that some time back uucp was shaken out of base > system and cu also, cu's functionality was folded back to tip. > Stable indeed has different tip and cu binaries, in -current there's > hard link. The -current cu is a crock of tip. One of the bugs in it is that "cu -l /dev/foo" doesn't use the default line speed for /dev/foo; it enforces 9600. This is bug for bug compatible with the V7 cu except for the unusably slow speed of 9600. For perfect brokenness, the default speed should be 300. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 10 23:45:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5C137B419; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA09014; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:45:38 +1100 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:46:54 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Robert Watson Cc: Subject: Re: b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020311182801.A5653-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Robert Watson wrote: > Just noticed the following for the first time today? (a) b_to_q console > message, and (b), the truncated 'Mar' which presumably has to do with > syslogd getting killed, some buffer getting flushed, or the like. The > b_to_q thing is what I'm wondering about. > > # reboot > Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot: rebooted by root > Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot: rebooted by root > Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot: rebooted by root > b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks. > MarWaiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped > > syncing disks... > done > Uptime: 16m12s Truncation at "Mar" is caused by ttymsg() not caring that its messages actually get written. Many messages may be truncated. I normally saw several "N"'s in a row when I debug this last November. That meant that several messages starting with "November" were truncated to "N". ttymsg() checks the result of writev() and is more careful if writev() returns EWOULDBLOCK, but for non-synchronous ttys like serial ttys, writev() normally just buffers the data and it takes a tcdrain() to ensure that the data has at least been transmitted. Unfortunately, there is no way to determine if the data has been transmitted without blocking, and ttymsg() doesn't want to block. ttymsg() compounds the error by using non-blocking mode in most cases. When non-blocking mode is in effect at last-close time, it tells close() to discard the data instead of blocking. The last-close sometimes occurs in exit() when blocking in it is very inconvenient because it gives an unkillable (half dead already) process. When writev() returns EWOULDBLOCK, ttymsg() switches to blocking mode and can generate a horde of blocked or unkillable children. I don't know exactly what causes the b_to_q message. It is most likely a race in close. You can first-open tty's that are blocked in last-close, and having this open succeed is very important for unblocking the close usi9ng "comcontrol /dev/foo drainwait ", but the tty system doesn't seem to do nearly enough to handle races here. 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Or do i have a leak in my mailbox? Jan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jan Stocker > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:15 AM > To: Martin Blapp; current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: gcc -O broken in CURRENT > > > This can be reproduced on my system and it may be a big problem. > I installed everthing from source with -O set in make.conf and > some proggys > running fine under 4.4 wont unter -current. Recompiling the proggys > without -O dont fix it but maybe it is caused by some libs... > > Is anyone examining this problem? > > Jan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Martin Blapp > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:02 PM > > To: current@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: gcc -O broken in CURRENT > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Unfortunatly I have a example from the ports, needed > > by OpenOffice port (work in progress) > > > > cd /usr/ports/devel/stlport/ && make install > > cd /usr/ports/devel/stlport/work/STLport-4.5.3/test/eh > > gmake -f gcc-freebsd.mak > > > > [vector] :testing n-size constructor (const) ... 95 try successful > > [vector] :testing pointer range constructor (const) ... > > Bus error - core dumped > > > > Then > > > > remove the three -O from gcc-freebsd.mak and run it again. > > > > You will see that all tests are successfully done. > > > > [...] > > [hash_multiset] :testing default constructor (const) ... 2 try > successful > > [hash_multiset] :testing iterator range n-size constructor > > (const) ... 127 try > > successful > > [hash_multiset] :testing copy constructor (const) ... 54 try successful > > [hash_multiset] :testing assignment operator (weak) ... 53 try > successful > > [...] > > [string] :testing copy constructor (const) ... 2 try successful > > [string] :testing assignment operator (weak) ... 1 try successful > > EH test : Done > > > > Martin > > > > Martin Blapp, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ImproWare AG, UNIXSP & ISP, Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, CH > > Phone: +41 061 826 93 00: +41 61 826 93 01 > > PGP Fingerprint: B434 53FC C87C FE7B 0A18 B84C 8686 EF22 D300 551E > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 1:31:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mydomain.com (213-98-72-186.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.98.72.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9648337B416 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 01:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: "IMPORTANT MESSAGE" To: "Current" Subject: IS YOUR WEB SITE BEING SEEN? 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 ------_NextPart_3875918659-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 2: 6: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9EC37B404 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 02:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2BA5xB40396 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:05:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:05:59 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <200203111005.g2BA5xB40396@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: ping with usec resolution Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking for a ping with usec (microsecond) resolution (as Redhat 7.2 is using). Could FreeBSD have it too? Anyone got the source for it? We want to build up a small experiment for students to measure the speed of light using ping. Found this neat story on the net btw. http://ftp.arl.mil/~mike/ping.html -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 2:12:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from root.com (unknown [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759BB37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 02:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dg@localhost) by root.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2BABp508219; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 02:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 02:11:51 -0800 From: David Greenman To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping with usec resolution Message-ID: <20020311021151.F211@nexus.root.com> References: <200203111005.g2BA5xB40396@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203111005.g2BA5xB40396@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:05:59AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm looking for a ping with usec (microsecond) resolution >(as Redhat 7.2 is using). Could FreeBSD have it too? Anyone >got the source for it? FreeBSD's ping has had microsecond resolution since version 1. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com President, Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 2:22:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E3837B402 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 02:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2BAM9u40544; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:22:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:22:09 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies To: David Greenman Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping with usec resolution Message-ID: <20020311112209.A40505@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <200203111005.g2BA5xB40396@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020311021151.F211@nexus.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20020311021151.F211@nexus.root.com>; from dg@root.com on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:11:51AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:11:51AM -0800, David Greenman wrote: > >I'm looking for a ping with usec (microsecond) resolution > >(as Redhat 7.2 is using). Could FreeBSD have it too? Anyone > >got the source for it? > > FreeBSD's ping has had microsecond resolution since version 1. Oh yeah. Sorry. I totally overlooked. Its just the format that changes (dynamically to usec when it falls below 1 ms) in the linux version. Thanks. -- > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com > President, Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com > Pave the road of life with opportunities. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 4:50:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B2F37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 04:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16kO3q-0001dS-05; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:33:50 +0100 Received: from twoflower (320072111332-0001@[217.80.127.113]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16kO3e-0gnZxIC; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:33:38 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Jan Stocker" To: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: 4-5 REL -> 5.0 CUR Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:32:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c1c8f0$6bddf8a0$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Sender: 320072111332-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to install a new current from a minimal installed 4.5 RELEASE and cvsuped source tree. $ cd /usr/src $ make -DNOPROFILE=true -DNO_WERROR buildworld ... $ make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC ... $ make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC ... install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 vesa.ko /boot/kernel/ ===> wi install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_wi.ko /boot/kernel/ ===> xe install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_xe.ko /boot/kernel/ kldxref /boot/kernel kldxref:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 (ignored) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 5: 1:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.org.ru (sweet.etrust.ru [194.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2972337B41E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5BAAA29F; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:00:46 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:00:46 +0300 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: Jan Stocker Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4-5 REL -> 5.0 CUR Message-ID: <20020311160046.A39249@freebsd.org.ru> References: <000001c1c8f0$6bddf8a0$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000001c1c8f0$6bddf8a0$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de>; from jstocker@tzi.de on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:32:26PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:32:26PM +0100, Jan Stocker wrote: > I tried to install a new current from a minimal installed 4.5 RELEASE and > cvsuped source tree. > > $ cd /usr/src > > $ make -DNOPROFILE=true -DNO_WERROR buildworld > ... > > $ make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > ... > > $ make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > ... > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 vesa.ko /boot/kernel/ > ===> wi > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_wi.ko /boot/kernel/ > ===> xe > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_xe.ko /boot/kernel/ > kldxref /boot/kernel > kldxref:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 (ignored) make can't find kldxref, because kldxref is part of 5.0, not 4.X Man page of kldxref online: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=kldxref&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-current&format=html If you don't like this bug: 1st way: touch /usr/sbin/kldxref 2nd way: 1) install libc.so.5 into /usr/lib 2) ldconfig -m /usr/lib 3) install kldxref from /usr/src/usr.sbin/kldxref after 1st or 2nd way try to install kernel one more time. -- Rgdz, /"\ Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN osa@freebsd.org.ru X AGAINST HTML MAIL http://freebsd.org.ru/~osa/ / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 5:11:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D8437B404 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g2BD9Rm22416; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:09:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:09:27 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Luigi Rizzo , "George V. Neville-Neil" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can someone explain this change to bsd.lib.mk ? Message-ID: <20020311130927.GB4678@sunbay.com> References: <20020308111346.A12303@iguana.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020308111346.A12303@iguana.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:13:46AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > The attached portion of the 1.100 -> 1.101 patch to src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk > (and a similar one in bsd.prog.mk 1.103 -> 1.104) broke cross builds > of PicoBSD, specifically preventing the cross-environment header > files to be found when building libraries/programs. You can reproduce > this by doing > > picobsd --src HEAD/src --init -n -v > > on a recently cvsupped HEAD tree. > > I wonder, how does a "make world" get around this problem > (so i can try to reproduce the 'fix' in the picobsd script) ? > > @@ -37,11 +37,6 @@ SHLIB_NAME?= lib${LIB}.so.${SHLIB_MAJOR} > .endif > .endif > > -.if defined(DESTDIR) && !defined(BOOTSTRAPPING) > -CFLAGS+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include > -CXXINCLUDES+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include/g++ > -.endif > - > .if defined(DEBUG_FLAGS) > CFLAGS+= ${DEBUG_FLAGS} > .endif DESTDIR has been abused for build purposes for a long time while, by design, it should have only affected the installation. `buildworld' builds special (cross) versions of compiler and tools that look things up under TOOLS_PREFIX. As indicated in the commitlog for a relevant change to Makefile.inc1,v 1.240: : (Attempt to move the "-nostdinc -I..." part of CFLAGS into the new CINCLUDES : (modeled after a similar CXXINCLUDES) eventually failed because hard-coding : ${WORLDTMP}/usr/include to be the first in the include list does not always : work, e.g. lib/libbind.) Because building of special versions of compiler and tools may not be easy in picobsd, the following patch works around the problem in libbind and should make things happy again: Index: release/picobsd/build/picobsd =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/picobsd/build/picobsd,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -p -r1.22 picobsd --- release/picobsd/build/picobsd 8 Mar 2002 02:24:21 -0000 1.22 +++ release/picobsd/build/picobsd 11 Mar 2002 12:29:38 -0000 @@ -151,15 +151,15 @@ create_includes_and_libraries() { mkdir -p ${l_usrtree}/share/misc # a few things go here mkdir -p ${l_usrtree}/lib # libraries mkdir -p ${l_usrtree}/sbin # some binaries - (cd ${SRC}; INCOWN=`id -un` BINOWN=`id -un` DESTDIR=${SRC}/.. \ + (cd ${SRC}; INCOWN=`id -un` BINOWN=`id -un` DESTDIR=${l_usrtree}/.. \ make -m ${SRC}/share/mk includes ) || fail $? includes - # libraries already have the include path in the Makefile - CFLAGS="-nostdinc" ; export CFLAGS + # Pick up the correct headers for libraries. + CFLAGS="-nostdinc -I${l_usrtree}/include" ; export CFLAGS (cd ${SRC} # $e is the invocation of make with correct environment e="MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=${l_objtree}/picobsd/libraries \ - INCOWN=`id -un` BINOWN=`id -un` DESTDIR=${SRC}/.. \ + INCOWN=`id -un` BINOWN=`id -un` DESTDIR=${l_usrtree}/.. \ make -m ${SRC}/share/mk \ -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOSHARE -DNOFSCHG " # need to 'make obj' in a few places. This is very Index: lib/libbind/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libbind/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.5 Makefile --- lib/libbind/Makefile 30 Nov 1999 04:40:54 -0000 1.5 +++ lib/libbind/Makefile 11 Mar 2002 12:29:38 -0000 @@ -2,9 +2,6 @@ BIND_DIR=${.CURDIR}/../../contrib/bind -# contrib/bind/include/* must not override any real system includes -CFLAGS+= -I${BIND_DIR}/port/freebsd/include -I${BIND_DIR}/include - LIB= bind WANT_IRS= for now @@ -86,3 +83,6 @@ NOPIC= true INTERNALSTATICLIB= true .include + +# XXX contrib/bind/include/* must not override any real system includes +CFLAGS:= -I${BIND_DIR}/port/freebsd/include -I${BIND_DIR}/include ${CFLAGS} Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 5:54:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF8237B405 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16kO9U-0006vV-0B; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:39:40 +0100 Received: from twoflower (320072111332-0001@[217.80.127.112]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16kO9I-1lC46CC; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:39:28 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Jan Stocker" To: , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: 4-5 REL -> 5.0 CUR Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:38:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000101c1c8f1$3c4f7b80$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: X-Sender: 320072111332-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ops of cource copied the hints file too > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Stocker [mailto:jstocker@tzi.de] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:32 PM > To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD. ORG > Subject: 4-5 REL -> 5.0 CUR > > > I tried to install a new current from a minimal installed 4.5 > RELEASE and cvsuped source tree. > > $ cd /usr/src > > $ make -DNOPROFILE=true -DNO_WERROR buildworld > ... > > $ make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > ... > > $ make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > ... > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 vesa.ko /boot/kernel/ > ===> wi > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_wi.ko /boot/kernel/ > ===> xe > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_xe.ko /boot/kernel/ > kldxref /boot/kernel > kldxref:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 6: 4:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B459137B402 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g2BE3PD30091; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:03:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:03:25 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can someone explain this change to bsd.lib.mk ? Message-ID: <20020311140325.GB23160@sunbay.com> References: <20020308111346.A12303@iguana.icir.org> <200203081926.g28JQGL04419@harmony.village.org> <20020309004315.C16568@iguana.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020309004315.C16568@iguana.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 12:43:16AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:26:16PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <20020308111346.A12303@iguana.icir.org> Luigi Rizzo writes: > > : The attached portion of the 1.100 -> 1.101 patch to src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk > > ... > > : I wonder, how does a "make world" get around this problem > > : (so i can try to reproduce the 'fix' in the picobsd script) ? > > > > Make world gets around this problem by doing things in stages so that > > the build tools are built first using the host environment, then the > > target binaries are built using the host tools. > ^^^^ > you mean the newly built tools, right ? > Yep. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 7: 1:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C90137B41A for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g2BF0SX37921; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:00:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:00:28 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Lamont Granquist Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading to 5-CURRENT via sources Message-ID: <20020311150028.GD33044@sunbay.com> References: <20020308101724.GA8515@freebsdmall.com> <20020309171124.I317-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020309171124.I317-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 05:16:48PM -0800, Lamont Granquist wrote: > > So, I've got a CVS checkout of 5-CURRENT on my 4.5-STABLE box and I'd like > to upgrade to a spare partition that I have on the machine (making it dual > boot). Can I just do: > > make world DESTDIR=/mnt/tmp > > And then build + drop the kernel into place + reboot? > Yes. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 7:18: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD93E37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g2BFHdL76773; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:17:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <000001c1c8f0$6bddf8a0$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> References: <000001c1c8f0$6bddf8a0$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 12 From: Makoto Matsushita To: Subject: Re: 4-5 REL -> 5.0 CUR Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:17:30 +0900 Message-Id: <20020312001730A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jstocker> kldxref /boot/kernel jstocker> kldxref:No such file or directory jstocker> *** Error code 1 (ignored) See the message "(ignored)". It is the intentional behavior. If you don't like this, make NO_XREF=YES installkernel will help you. Check src/sys/conf/kmod.mk for more details. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 7:20:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.sgh.waw.pl (hermes.sgh.waw.pl [194.145.96.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47A837B41A for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from akson.sgh.waw.pl (saper@akson.sgh.waw.pl [194.145.96.12]) by hermes.sgh.waw.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8/rchk1.20+bspm1.13) with ESMTP id QAA20396; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:20:18 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:20:08 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Marcin_CIE=A6LAK?= To: kalts@estpak.ee Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gvim weird linkage - NOT ONLY In-Reply-To: <20020309211155.GA17562@myhakas.estpak.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Vallo Kallaste wrote: -> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:42:07PM +0100, Olivier Houchard wrote: -> Tried without XIM support only, then without multibyte, fontset and -> XIM support, no joy. Exactly same linkage happens. Perhaps I should -> also note that using Motif for GUI will not change anything. I have a very similar problem with windowmaker, xv and perhaps few other X11 applications. I also have a window manager compiled from x11-wM/phluid port. They all dump core attempting to dlopen(): (example from phluid) #0 0x280530be in reloc_non_plt () /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #1 0x28050b00 in find_symdef () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #2 0x28051097 in dlopen () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #3 0x28252bbb in sys_dl_open () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 #4 0x2825313e in tryall_dlopen () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 #5 0x282540c0 in lt_dlopen () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 #6 0x28254395 in lt_dlopenext () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 #7 0x28076558 in __imlib_ProduceLoader () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1 #8 0x28076bf7 in __imlib_LoadAllLoaders () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1 #9 0x28076b69 in __imlib_RescanLoaders () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1 #10 0x28076f28 in __imlib_LoadImage () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1 #11 0x28084d64 in imlib_load_image () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1 #12 0x804b167 in imlib_context_set_color () #13 0x80496e6 in imlib_context_set_color () #14 0x804963d in imlib_context_set_color () This is current installed from scratch from one of the late february snaphots, with world updated every so-often (2-3 days max). New make buildworld with -g in progress now. I even recompiled XFree86-4 (4.1.0 port) and it didn't help. -- << Marcin Cie¶lak // saper@sgh.waw.pl >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 7:37:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from h132-197-179-27.gte.com (h132-197-179-27.gte.com [132.197.179.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD1E37B41D for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanpc.gte.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by h132-197-179-27.gte.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g2BFb4P1057583; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:37:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ak03@gte.com) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:37:04 -0500 From: Alexander Kabaev To: Marcin CIE_LAK Cc: kalts@estpak.ee, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gvim weird linkage - NOT ONLY Message-Id: <20020311103704.5291d541.ak03@gte.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20020309211155.GA17562@myhakas.estpak.ee> Organization: Verizon Data Services X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.3claws2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The stack trace below shows exactly the symptoms of the binutils DT_TEXTREL bug, which has been fixed by the latest vendor import. Rebuilding world IS NOT ENOUGH to solve the problem. You will need to rebuild all the incorrect libraries which have been built with broken binutils before. Libpng is the only such library I found so far. Programs, linked with imlib are crashing when trying to dynamically load libppng, most likely. > #0 0x280530be in reloc_non_plt () /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #1 0x28050b00 in find_symdef () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #2 0x28051097 in dlopen () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #3 0x28252bbb in sys_dl_open () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 > #4 0x2825313e in tryall_dlopen () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 > #5 0x282540c0 in lt_dlopen () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 > #6 0x28254395 in lt_dlopenext () from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.1 > #7 0x28076558 in __imlib_ProduceLoader () from > /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1#8 0x28076bf7 in __imlib_LoadAllLoaders > () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1#9 0x28076b69 in > __imlib_RescanLoaders () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1#10 > 0x28076f28 in __imlib_LoadImage () from > /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1#11 0x28084d64 in imlib_load_image () > from /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib2.so.1#12 0x804b167 in > imlib_context_set_color ()#13 0x80496e6 in imlib_context_set_color () > #14 0x804963d in imlib_context_set_color () To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 7:38: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030FF37B42F for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:37:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32182 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2002 15:37:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Mar 2002 15:37:37 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2BFbtv20174; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:37:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020308231833.C5720@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:37:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Cc: portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG, Chris Hedley , Matthew Jacob Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Mar-02 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:35:47PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >> And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up. > > Yes. Or panic. See my posts earlier this week. I managed to get > 2 buildworlds without accidents, but all make release attempts either > paniced or froze. We should turn preemption back off again. :-/ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 8: 6:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAAD37B416 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0620.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.200.110] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16kSJ3-0003f4-00; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:05:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3C8CD5CD.97242550@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:05:33 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: David Greenman , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping with usec resolution References: <200203111005.g2BA5xB40396@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020311021151.F211@nexus.root.com> <20020311112209.A40505@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christoph Kukulies wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:11:51AM -0800, David Greenman wrote: > > >I'm looking for a ping with usec (microsecond) resolution > > >(as Redhat 7.2 is using). Could FreeBSD have it too? Anyone > > >got the source for it? > > > > FreeBSD's ping has had microsecond resolution since version 1. > > Oh yeah. Sorry. I totally overlooked. Its just the format that changes > (dynamically to usec when it falls below 1 ms) in the linux version. This would make it harder to write scripts that process the output in mixed formats. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 8:13: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC037B400; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2BGCki15965; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:12:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2BGCjL23631; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:12:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:12:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020311.091240.73661063.imp@village.org> To: rizzo@icir.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, ru@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can someone explain this change to bsd.lib.mk ? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020309004315.C16568@iguana.icir.org> References: <20020308111346.A12303@iguana.icir.org> <200203081926.g28JQGL04419@harmony.village.org> <20020309004315.C16568@iguana.icir.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020309004315.C16568@iguana.icir.org> Luigi Rizzo writes: : On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:26:16PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : > In message <20020308111346.A12303@iguana.icir.org> Luigi Rizzo writes: : > : The attached portion of the 1.100 -> 1.101 patch to src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk : > ... : > : I wonder, how does a "make world" get around this problem : > : (so i can try to reproduce the 'fix' in the picobsd script) ? : > : > Make world gets around this problem by doing things in stages so that : > the build tools are built first using the host environment, then the : > target binaries are built using the host tools. : ^^^^ : you mean the newly built tools, right ? Yes. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 8:20:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from prg.traveller.cz (prg.traveller.cz [193.85.2.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AC537B404 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from prg.traveller.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prg.traveller.cz (8.12.1[KQ-CZ](1)/8.12.1/pukvis) with ESMTP id g2BGJsmZ047098 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:19:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mime@localhost) by prg.traveller.cz (8.12.1[KQ-CZ](1)/pukvis) with ESMTP id g2BGJsif047095 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:19:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:19:54 +0100 (CET) From: Michal Mertl To: current@freebsd.org Subject: panics with CardBus Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get panics for about 2 weeks (last tested with todays current - it's more unstable than friday's build - it crashed only when boot_verbose was set, now it sometimes crashes several times in a row). The panics occur on 2 places - on detection/insertion in device_get_parent() or bus_deactivate_resource() and on removal in bus_deactivate_resource(). I can provide more info as needed (don't know what to look for and don't want to make the mail even longer). Sorry for inappropriate linewrap and long email. Trimmed dmesg output (without the card in slot): ----- Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc043f000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc043f0a8. Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 365868380 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193211 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method Timecounter "TSC" frequency 365861690 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (365.86-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x66a Stepping =3D 10 Features=3D0x183f9ff real memory =3D 134152192 (131008K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00466000 - 0x07fe7fff, 129507328 bytes (31618 pages) avail memory =3D 125992960 (123040K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fa000 bios32: Entry =3D 0xf0000 (c00f0000) Rev =3D 0 Len =3D 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf0000+0x478 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f5a70 pnpbios: Entry =3D f0000:5a9e Rev =3D 1.0 pnpbios: Event flag at f5a96 pnpbios: OEM ID 30b1110e Other BIOS signatures found: null: random: mem: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled VESA: information block 56 45 53 41 00 02 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 22 00 00 01 7f 00 00 01 0b 01 00 01 21 01 00 01 2a 01 00 01 00 01 01 01 10 01 11 01 12 01 03 01 13 01 14 01 15 01 05 01 16 01 17 01 18 01 07 01 19 01 VESA: 40 mode(s) found VESA: v2.0, 8128k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc038a662 (1000022) VESA: ATI MACH64 VESA: ATI Technologies Inc. MACH64RM 01.00 pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c pci_open(1a): mode1res=3D0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=3D060000] [hdr=3D00] is there (id=3D7190808= 6) Using $PIR table, 268435454 entries at 0xc00f0970 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 6, width =3D 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 6, width =3D 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 6, width =3D 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 6, width =3D 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 6, width =3D 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 6, width =3D 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 1, max =3D 6, width =3D 6 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 16777187, width =3D 16777186 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 2, max =3D 16777197, width =3D 16777196 ACPI timer looks BAD min =3D 1, max =3D 16777214, width =3D 16777214 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x5008-0x500b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 unknown: not probed (disabled) sage repeated 19 times pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: physical bus=3D0 map[10]: type 3, range 32, base 50000000, size 26, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7190, revid=3D0x03 bus=3D0, slot=3D0, func=3D0 class=3D06-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7191, revid=3D0x03 bus=3D0, slot=3D1, func=3D0 class=3D06-04-00, hdrtype=3D0x01, mfdev=3D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 7fffe000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x104c, dev=3D0xac1b, revid=3D0x03 bus=3D0, slot=3D4, func=3D0 class=3D06-07-00, hdrtype=3D0x02, mfdev=3D1 intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 7ffff000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x104c, dev=3D0xac1b, revid=3D0x03 bus=3D0, slot=3D4, func=3D1 class=3D06-07-00, hdrtype=3D0x02, mfdev=3D1 intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7110, revid=3D0x02 bus=3D0, slot=3D7, func=3D0 class=3D06-80-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00003820, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7111, revid=3D0x01 bus=3D0, slot=3D7, func=3D1 class=3D01-01-80, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00003800, size 5, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7112, revid=3D0x01 bus=3D0, slot=3D7, func=3D2 class=3D0c-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 intpin=3Dd, irq=3D11 map[90]: type 4, range 32, base 00004000, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7113, revid=3D0x02 bus=3D0, slot=3D7, func=3D3 class=3D06-80-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00003000, size 8, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x125d, dev=3D0x1978, revid=3D0x10 bus=3D0, slot=3D8, func=3D0 class=3D04-01-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 1 pcib1: subordinate bus 1 pcib1: I/O decode 0x2000-0x2fff pcib1: memory decode 0x40000000-0x410fffff pcib1: prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff pci1: physical bus=3D1 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 40000000, size 24, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 00002000, size 8, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 41000000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x1002, dev=3D0x4c4d, revid=3D0x64 bus=3D1, slot=3D0, func=3D0 class=3D03-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pccbb0: mem 0x7fffe000-0x7fffefff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on pccbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on pccbb0 pccbb1: mem 0x7ffff000-0x7fffffff irq 11 at device 4.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on pccbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on pccbb1 PCI-ISA bridge with incorrect subclass 0x80 PCI-ISA bridge with incorrect subclass 0x80 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x3820-0x382f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=3D0x01f0 altiobase=3D0x03f6 bmaddr=3D0x3820 ata0: mask=3D03 ostat0=3D50 ostat2=3D00 ata0-slave: ATAPI 14 eb ata0-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata0: mask=3D03 stat0=3D50 stat1=3D00 ata0-master: ATA 01 a5 ata0: devices=3D09 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=3D0x0170 altiobase=3D0x0376 bmaddr=3D0x3828 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at device 7.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x3000-0x30ff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 setmap (4cb000, 4000), nseg=3D1, error=3D0 pcm0: Maestro DMA base: 0x4cb000 pcm0: ac97 codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/9723) pcm0: ac97 codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, 5 bit master volume, SigmaTel 3D Enhancement pcm0: ac97 primary codec extended features AMAP setmap (4e9000, 4000), nseg=3D1, error=3D0 pcm0: pch[0].offset =3D 0x1e000 setmap (4ed000, 4000), nseg=3D1, error=3D0 pcm0: pch[1].offset =3D 0x22000 setmap (4f1000, 4000), nseg=3D1, error=3D0 pcm0: pch[2].offset =3D 0x26000 setmap (508000, 4000), nseg=3D1, error=3D0 pcm0: pch[3].offset =3D 0x3d000 ata: ata0 already exists; 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:40:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (sbk-gw.sibnet.ru [217.70.96.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973CF37B4F3; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (stranger@localhost) by sbk-gw.sibnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2F2aUY80505; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:36:30 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:36:29 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Maxim M. Kazachek" X-X-Sender: stranger@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Kris Kennaway , , Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. In-Reply-To: <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> Message-ID: <20020315083610.I98205-100000@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've installed qt23 from ports painlessly Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru mailto:stranger@fpm.ami.nstu.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:43:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3927B37B647; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2F2aUF06632; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:36:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:36:30 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm , Murray Stokely , current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15 Mar 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > > Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to > > last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot > > to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng work on > > HEAD without calling for a code freeze (which we early on decided that > > we would *not* do). > > Then you don't need a branch, you just need a simple tag, and you can > slide it forward if something needs fixing, and remove it after rolling > and shipping the snapshot. No, in this case that doesn't help. What we want is to grab a stable moment, then to allow development to continue. However, we may then want to tweak that stable moment without impinging on development, which requires a branch. The QA/releng work requires us to modify the stuff being released following the branchpoint. It's worth noting, BTW, that originally the release engineering team planned to use Perforce for this to avoid the branch issue entirely, minimize impact on the main tree, etc, but decided not to due to the high volume of complaints on the topic. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:44: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-239.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDF737B499; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C4D466C76; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:40:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:40:37 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Maxim M. Kazachek" Cc: Alex Zepeda , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020314184036.A51944@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <20020315083610.I98205-100000@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020315083610.I98205-100000@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru>; from stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 08:36:29AM +0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 08:36:29AM +0600, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: > I've installed qt23 from ports painlessly Fine, I'm glad to hear it :) The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). Kris --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kV8kWry0BWjoQKURAgEuAKCqOUd2RiyOvw9v9tpJbpU45USMEwCgiGBf WnHA/netbGekxfhmfNv+LTU= =aTeW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:49:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wagsky.com (wildside.wagsky.com [64.220.148.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3D637B404 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by smtp.wagsky.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2F2nZr68026 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:49:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff+freebsd@wagsky.com) X-Authentication-Warning: wildside.wagsky.com: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:49:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Kletsky X-Sender: jeff@wildside.wagsky.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tried the "obvious" -- manually loading acpi.ko -- still fails On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Jeff Kletsky wrote: > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:41:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeff Kletsky > To: current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install > > Having been unable to confirm a complete and proper installation of > 5.0-CURRENT on my Sony PCG-SRX7/EP (similar to SRX77) laptop using the > 4.5-RELEASE installer, I have made a bootable CD from > 5.0-20020313-CURRENT, as well as floppies from 5.0-20020314-CURRENT. > Both exhibit the same set of symptoms. [...] > > Results in: > > ACPI autoload failed - no such file or directory > - > [dump followed] Failed workaround: 1) Create floppies using dd 2) Make another copy of the mfsroot floopy, mount /dev/fd0 /mnt rm -rf /mnt/* mkdir -p /mnt/boot/kernel copy acpi.ko to /mnt/boot/kernel ### Note that copying to root of floppy fails on load attempt ### ### This is inconsistent with the loader (8) manpage in 5.0 ### umount /mnt 3) Boot from kern.flp 4) Load mfsroot.flp 5) Interrupt boot process set hw.pcic.intr_path=1 set hw.pcic.irq=0 6) Remove mfsroot.flp, insert 'acpi.ko.flp' load acpi.ko ('boot'ing here causes the BTX to halt if the acpi.ko.flp is still in the drive) 7) Remove acpi.ko.flp, insert mfsroot.flp boot ...and watch the BTX halt Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:51: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from green.gng.co.kr (green.gng.co.kr [211.115.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C7737B416 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by GREEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:37:55 +0900 Message-ID: <72ED4C1E297BD5119BDE00B0D049185201C4C0CE@GREEN> From: =?euc-kr?B?wOW8usij?= To: current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:37:55 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-kr" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try this ... Do you have your own /etc/make.conf file ? If then, I hope you did not use NO_MODULES="YES" as I was. :( 1. Did you do 'make buildkernel & installkernel' with KERNCONF=GENERIC first ? After reboot once, I re-compiled my own kernel using NEWCARD & NEWCARD.hints. 2. Modify NEWCARD and add below a line as reffered by /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES device acpica ( I didn't try No. 2 method ) Now, can you find acpi.ko module in your /boot/kernel folder?? Cheers.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Kletsky [mailto:jeff+freebsd@wagsky.com] > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:41 AM > To: current@freebsd.org > Subject: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:56:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED3837B400; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from 12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com ([12.234.22.238]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020315025638.MRRS2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com>; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 02:56:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by 12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2F2ucl85213; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:32 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-X-Sender: doug@12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Peter Wemm , Murray Stokely , , Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) In-Reply-To: <200203150227.g2F2RIe27557@bmah.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20020314185546.S85203-100000@12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I can't imagine why anyone would expect to cvsup this thing at some > point in the distant future Rule number one of release engineering... user's will do all kinds of wacky stuff that you would never expect them to do, and complain bitterly when it doesn't work. :) -- "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory." - George W. Bush, President of the United States State of the Union, January 28, 2002 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:57: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE8837B404; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from zippy.mybox.zip ([207.214.149.5]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GSZ008LBUUUQE@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net>; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by zippy.mybox.zip (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D82AE17D4; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:56:53 -0800 From: Alex Zepeda Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. In-reply-to: <"from kris"@obsecurity.org> To: Kris Kennaway , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Message-id: <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i References: <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <20020315083610.I98205-100000@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> <20020314184036.A51944@xor.obsecurity.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain > changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 > depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). Right, when I tried to compile Qt3 recently I had problems with moc dupming core. Getting rid of any objprelink references solved that. I suggest that something similar be done in the port (maybe make objprelink optional and then off by default). - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 18:57:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738D537B400; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 16B50534A; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 03:57:42 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Robert Watson Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm , Murray Stokely , current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 Mar 2002 03:57:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Watson writes: > It's worth noting, BTW, that originally the release engineering team > planned to use Perforce for this to avoid the branch issue entirely, > minimize impact on the main tree, etc, but decided not to due to the high > volume of complaints on the topic. If it allows you to do your job better and quicker, use it. I was actually going to suggest it myself, but I didn't think anybody would take me seriously... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 19: 2:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-239.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D14937B404; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 65C2366C76; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:02:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:02:43 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020314190243.B53134@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <20020315083610.I98205-100000@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> <20020314184036.A51944@xor.obsecurity.org> <"from kris"@obsecurity.org> <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip>; from jazepeda@pacbell.net on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:56:53PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:56:53PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain > > changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 > > depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). >=20 > Right, when I tried to compile Qt3 recently I had problems with moc > dupming core. Getting rid of any objprelink references solved that. I > suggest that something similar be done in the port (maybe make objprelink > optional and then off by default). Any chance you could work me up a patch to test? Kris --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kWRTWry0BWjoQKURAqGZAKCkoRvsIOsDlK9A81779qbnN8t8KgCeL3yp KsJdt1hE3dxH7gk9uV8Xhqs= =Dltq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 19: 6:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D043E37B404; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20814; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:06:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2F363H43885; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:06:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15505.25883.350996.459890@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:06:03 -0700 To: Robert Watson Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm , Murray Stokely , current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > > > Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to > > > last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot > > > to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng work on > > > HEAD without calling for a code freeze (which we early on decided that > > > we would *not* do). > > > > Then you don't need a branch, you just need a simple tag, and you can > > slide it forward if something needs fixing, and remove it after rolling > > and shipping the snapshot. > > No, in this case that doesn't help. What we want is to grab a stable > moment, then to allow development to continue. However, we may then want > to tweak that stable moment without impinging on development, which > requires a branch. Not necessarily. What we've done at work is *NOT* create a branch unless absolutely necessary. The only time a branch is requires is *if* a file changes out from underneath the developer *AND* it that files needs modifying but *must not* contain that same change. We play it by ear, since in almost all cases, the change can be made to any necessary file(s) and the file(s) updated by hand. Otherwise, often the change that happens are necessary to merge into the build, so we do an update. Only in very rare cases do we run into a problem where we have to create a branch. In that case, the developer responsible for the release creates a branch from his checked out tree (there's no law against creating a branch from sources that are older than the HEAD), and then makes any necessary changes. It's *not* that hard to do. Otherwise, once the release is made using the files, a point-tag is laid down and we've saved the hassle of the branch. > The QA/releng work requires us to modify the stuff being released > following the branchpoint. See above. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 19:21:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-239.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D518A37B400; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4748866C76; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:21:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:21:39 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020314192139.A53644@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <20020315083610.I98205-100000@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> <20020314184036.A51944@xor.obsecurity.org> <"from kris"@obsecurity.org> <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip>; from jazepeda@pacbell.net on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:56:53PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:56:53PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain > > changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 > > depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). >=20 > Right, when I tried to compile Qt3 recently I had problems with moc > dupming core. Getting rid of any objprelink references solved that. I > suggest that something similar be done in the port (maybe make objprelink > optional and then off by default). Actually, I think you might have nailed it.. the qt23 port has this: =2Eif ${OSVERSION} >=3D 500029 NO_QT_OBJPRELINK=3D yes =2Eendif but the portbuild script is still setting OSVERSION to 500027. I thought I'd made all of those dynamic based on the version number in the head of the CVS branch, but looks like I missed some. Thanks! Kris --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kWjCWry0BWjoQKURApMyAJ0SkXDgqPeKKBSv5Lj7bocNvUvJlQCfVkSd L9loY+1B25gprSHF9qEmvOU= =B89h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 19:46:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net [24.50.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7619C37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.80.70]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GSZWQ900.4JU for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:37:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3C916C7B.9060106@adelphia.net.> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:37:31 -0500 From: Jeff Heath User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20020221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:19: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.jeamland.net (rafe.jeamland.net [203.18.243.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B722D37B404 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.9.176] (rtr1.snc.schools.net.au [203.2.135.22]) by mail.jeamland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16AA7060A; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:18:38 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install (fwd) From: Benno Rice To: Jeff Kletsky Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dVXuc6oGLqLTOlRY3Q+u" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 15 Mar 2002 16:18:37 +1200 Message-Id: <1016165919.3989.96.camel@ratchet.jeamland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-dVXuc6oGLqLTOlRY3Q+u Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 14:49, Jeff Kletsky wrote: > Tried the "obvious" -- manually loading acpi.ko -- still fails [snip] > 7) Remove acpi.ko.flp, insert mfsroot.flp >=20 > boot >=20 > ...and watch the BTX halt Can you provide a copy of the BTX fault information? It's a bit hard to debug unless you can give us information like that. --=20 Benno Rice benno@jeamland.net --=-dVXuc6oGLqLTOlRY3Q+u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEABECAAYFAjyRdh0ACgkQXjRwWofFmQmRZACffcZ2DQDfJI2WU2dYZ9FZv8DW pIEAniplBRj1hXIO7x/8CmO1rFAnJsmY =R6oA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dVXuc6oGLqLTOlRY3Q+u-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:26:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DE537B400; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.135.139.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.135.139] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ljI4-0006ya-00; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:26:04 -0800 Message-ID: <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:25:39 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. References: <20020314163143.A47940@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Zepeda wrote: > As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build > and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know > why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really care. > For me disabling WITNESS does more than enough to make KDE useable on my > -current box (2xP2-450). Uh, "objprelink" exists for a reason. It's not just decorative. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:26:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB5337B41B for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2F4QYi41299; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:26:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2F4QSL55126; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:26:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:26:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020314.212625.63204104.imp@village.org> To: gavin@ury.york.ac.uk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panics with CardBus From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20020311.183034.19662901.imp@village.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: Gavin Atkinson writes: : On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : > John Baldwin also cornered me about these panics. I'll be looking at : > them tonight. I think he gave me a good way to recreate them. : : The patches never fixed one of the panics I see, with a GlobalVillage : Ethernet/Modem card. The kernel still traps with a page fault in : pccard_scan_cis, however with the patches, this now nanifests itself with : the panic message "vm_fault: fault on nofault entry". : : I am more than happy to help debug this. The pccard_scan_cis stuff is due to a memory mapping problem that I'm seeing on some cards. :-(. I'm reverting back to an earlier version of the cardbus code for teh DP1 release and then trying again after DP1 is out. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:29: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wwweasel.geeksrus.net (wwweasel.geeksrus.net [64.8.210.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1021B37B405; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alane@localhost) by wwweasel.geeksrus.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2F4ScV05911; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:28:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alane) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:28:38 -0500 From: Alan Eldridge To: Terry Lambert Cc: Alex Zepeda , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020315042838.GC5828@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> References: <20020314163143.A47940@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-message-flag: Magic 8-Ball says "Outlook not so good." I'll ask it about Exchange next. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: >Alex Zepeda wrote: >> As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build >> and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know >> why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really care. >> For me disabling WITNESS does more than enough to make KDE useable on my >> -current box (2xP2-450). > >Uh, "objprelink" exists for a reason. It's not just decorative. I'll just point out that it's an optimization, and an optimization that breaks a build is not particularly effective at optimizing anything. -- Alan Eldridge "Dave's not here, man." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:32:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net [24.50.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558EE37B404 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.80.70]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GSZY8B00.GL7 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:09:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3C917415.3060708@adelphia.net.> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:09:57 -0500 From: Jeff Heath User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20020221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:40:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-239.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846E937B402; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F7BE66C76; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:40:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:40:27 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: Alex Zepeda , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020314204027.C55804@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020314163143.A47940@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4ZLFUWh1odzi/v6L" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --4ZLFUWh1odzi/v6L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Alex Zepeda wrote: > > As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will bu= ild > > and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know > > why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really care. > > For me disabling WITNESS does more than enough to make KDE useable on my > > -current box (2xP2-450). >=20 > Uh, "objprelink" exists for a reason. It's not just decorative. Actually I thought it is; it was introduced in the ports system as a way to speed up runtime linking of KDE components, but KDE worked relatively well for years beforehand :) Kris --4ZLFUWh1odzi/v6L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kXs6Wry0BWjoQKURAr6TAKCymkZGeJqQEwaO+wSi0q6AXft/mgCguO37 nSgVBcS2veOjFtI/ryiKXQ0= =Z4IP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4ZLFUWh1odzi/v6L-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 20:51:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220D437B400; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2F4prlv081798; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:51:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2F4ocoX081793; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:50:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:50:38 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Robert Watson Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Message-ID: <20020314205038.A81751@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:36:30PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:36:30PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > It's worth noting, BTW, that originally the release engineering team > planned to use Perforce for this to avoid the branch issue entirely, > minimize impact on the main tree, etc, but decided not to due to the high > volume of complaints on the topic. You would get no complaints from me. I think this would be a very good use of Perforce. In the past the WC -CURRENT snapshots were not tagged or branched w/in CVS. I don't see that the requirement to do so has been demanded. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 21: 2:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F9D37B402; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.135.139.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.135.139] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ljr3-0004SI-00; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:02:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3C91803B.657DA5AE@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:01:47 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Eldridge Cc: Alex Zepeda , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. References: <20020314163143.A47940@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com> <20020315042838.GC5828@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Eldridge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > >Alex Zepeda wrote: > >> As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build > >> and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know > >> why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really care. > >> For me disabling WITNESS does more than enough to make KDE useable on my > >> -current box (2xP2-450). > > > >Uh, "objprelink" exists for a reason. It's not just decorative. > > I'll just point out that it's an optimization, and an optimization that > breaks a build is not particularly effective at optimizing anything. It's the tools change that breaks the optimization that breaks the build. THerefore it's the tools change that breaks the build. That's just simple root cause analysis. I think it's idiotic to put spackle over the broken window, paint the wall, and then call it "fixed". Working around tools problems removes the incentive to fix the tools. If you want the tools to get fixed, you won't put spackle everywhere the tools deficiencies show through to try to pretend the problems aren't there. This is a developer's release. As such, some things are expected to be broken, in order to cause people to fix the root cause of the problems. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 21:31:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672F237B400; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA18378; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:30:58 +1100 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:32:29 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: "ozan s. yigit" Cc: Steve Kargl , , Subject: Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT In-Reply-To: <200203141846.g2EIkbI08862@zonzorp.canada.sun.com> Message-ID: <20020315160900.G22865-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, ozan s. yigit wrote: > > Add the -ffloat-store flag to your compilation flags (or > > add -msoft-float). > > that really means for this compiler on certain platforms, you > can have slow and correct or fast and incorrect, but NOT fast > and correct. I think fast and correct is impossible on i386's. "Correct" requires assignments and casts to discard any extra precision, and the fastest way to implement this is probably to store to memory and reload. The -ffloat-store kludge only does a subset of the necessary conversions. Doing them all would be slower and correct, which is why gcc doesn't do them. C90 can be read as permitting this incorrectness, but C99 doesn't permit it. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 22:16:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66ABA37B405; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020315061617.VUAU1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:16:17 +0000 Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2F6GEs43932; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145EE38CC; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. In-Reply-To: <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:16:14 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020315061614.145EE38CC@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain > > changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 > > depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). > > Right, when I tried to compile Qt3 recently I had problems with moc > dupming core. Getting rid of any objprelink references solved that. I > suggest that something similar be done in the port (maybe make objprelink > optional and then off by default). The objprelink stuff should be fixed now, we need to know if it is not. Have you built world recently (like, in the last day or two)? Do a ls /usr/libdata/ldscripts, and if you do *not* see elf_i386.xc and elf_i386.xsc, then your world is not new enough. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 22:36:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-239.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC40A37B402; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 84D7866C76; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:36:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:36:45 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Peter Wemm Cc: Alex Zepeda , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020314223645.A59227@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020314185653.A68572@zippy.mybox.zip> <20020315061614.145EE38CC@overcee.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020315061614.145EE38CC@overcee.wemm.org>; from peter@wemm.org on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:16:14PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:16:14PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Alex Zepeda wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >=20 > > > The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain > > > changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 > > > depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). > >=20 > > Right, when I tried to compile Qt3 recently I had problems with moc > > dupming core. Getting rid of any objprelink references solved that. I > > suggest that something similar be done in the port (maybe make objpreli= nk > > optional and then off by default). >=20 > The objprelink stuff should be fixed now, we need to know if it is not. > Have you built world recently (like, in the last day or two)? Do a > ls /usr/libdata/ldscripts, and if you do *not* see elf_i386.xc and=20 > elf_i386.xsc, then your world is not new enough. I built a world after the recent ld commits, which failed to build qt23. I would have double-checked the tarball right away, except bento just died. fxp0: device timeout fxp0: device timeout [...] Kris --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kZZ9Wry0BWjoQKURAoU7AKDEzWpQ54HHiLxXu2RyKA96g3R+jwCffal1 JGgkPe99NMzyTQfq5l9xg74= =tWgy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 23: 8:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C916A37B417; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 9E7904B6A6; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:08:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:08:11 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm , Murray Stokely , current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Message-ID: <20020315070811.GC11382@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020315004008.D022138CC@overcee.wemm.org> <200203150227.g2F2RIe27557@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qjNfmADvan18RZcF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --qjNfmADvan18RZcF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:32:00AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > > Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to > > last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot > > to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng work on > > HEAD without calling for a code freeze (which we early on decided that > > we would *not* do). >=20 > Then you don't need a branch, you just need a simple tag, and you can > slide it forward if something needs fixing, and remove it after > rolling and shipping the snapshot. Sliding tags around at the request of hundreds of different developers making thousands of changes to -CURRENT over that time period is not very appealing. However, all of our other options are rapidly being shot down as well. Peter raises some valid concerns about the pains that branching CVS will cause. They would have been much more helpful if voiced to re@ a week ago, but that's another issue. At the very least a tag is going down in approximately 24 hours. - Murray --qjNfmADvan18RZcF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kZ3atNcQog5FH30RApbMAKDNBlOtvnRiP5mdZIMOUuuPFT3crQCgmq/n hAqUmmBsWA7h3gW+NhWTqkg= =q5Mz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qjNfmADvan18RZcF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 23:14:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAFE37B405; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 6291F4B6A6; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:14:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:14:33 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Peter Wemm Cc: Murray Stokely , developers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Message-ID: <20020315071433.GD11382@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020308101724.GA8515@freebsdmall.com> <20020315004008.D022138CC@overcee.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020315004008.D022138CC@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:40:08PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > If this is going to be a "static" release (calling it RELENG_5_anything is > a mistake IMHO) then this isn't a big deal. But if people are expecting > it to have ongoing secirity fixes etc like we do with RELENG_4_5 etc then > we have a problem, because it cannot last very long at all. Ongoing security fixes for a SNAPSHOT ??? No, that is definitely not the case. > Accordingly, I would much prefer that the branch (if we have to have it) > would be called SNAPSHOT_5_DP1 or soemthing, so that the "RELENG_" prefix > doesn't unduely raise expectations that it will keep working, or move the > DP1 release elsewhere if we want it to remain cvsup'able long term. I think that the huge warning signs all over the release documentation will do a lot more to set the expectations that the name of a CVS tag, but just to be sure I suppose we can keep the RELENG namespace for official releases. Your proposed name change works for me. - Murray --Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kZ9YtNcQog5FH30RAl/hAJ9e/9zcsyVCDCeGC24ULJNOMvLE6QCfapSI SHaVqa79mRRuo4oIEspgZvU= =PngP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 14 23:58:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D5037B41A; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from zippy.mybox.zip ([207.214.149.52]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GT00087C8TNQO@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net>; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by zippy.mybox.zip (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ED5D717C4; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:58:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:58:34 -0800 From: Alex Zepeda Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. In-reply-to: <"from tlambert2"@mindspring.com> To: Terry Lambert , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@freebsd.org Message-id: <20020314235834.A381@zippy.mybox.zip> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i References: <20020314163143.A47940@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> <3C9177C3.7DE07595@mindspring.com> <20020315042838.GC5828@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <3C91803B.657DA5AE@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:01:47PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > I think it's idiotic to put spackle over the broken window, > paint the wall, and then call it "fixed". I know what objprelink is, and as far as I'm concerned it's there to work around the substandard support that C++ gets from the GNU binutils and compiler. I don't feel much sympathy for the breaking a silly hack that amounts to spackle in the first place by whatever happened to the binutils. FWIW I haven't built KDE or Qt from the ports tree in a while. It seems like it's been about six days since I've cvsup'd and built world. - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 0: 1:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5007B37B4A2; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 20B6E4B6A6; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:00:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:00:58 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Call for Submissions: FreeBSD 5.0 DP1 Testing Guide Message-ID: <20020315080058.GE11382@freebsdmall.com> Reply-To: re@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5xSkJheCpeK0RUEJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5xSkJheCpeK0RUEJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline As part of the release documentation for 5.0 DP1, we would like to provide a comprehensive testing guide. If you have code in -CURRENT that you would like to receive feedback on from the developer preview, then please submit a short email to re@FreeBSD.org with the following: 1. A brief description of the new functionality to be tested. 2. A list of known issues / bugs. 3. Instructions for users who wish to help test the feature. If required, we can add test programs or additional patches to a separate directory of the ISO image and FTP install directory. This is somewhat analogous to the 4.5 Testing Guide, http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/qa.html, but our focus is slightly different. Please send submissions to re@FreeBSD.org before Wednesday March 20. We would like to allow enough time for translation teams to do their work, so the earlier the better. Thanks, - The Release Engineering Team --5xSkJheCpeK0RUEJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kao5tNcQog5FH30RAt9TAKDHmcWyfpeAq3qllrySF8VRiNBzLgCeLjof 8uCSz1ixsJU9Bc08bFV6Tg0= =XPsj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5xSkJheCpeK0RUEJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 1: 2:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (mail-green.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A19137B405; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2541E126; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 04:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA05794; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 04:02:04 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id BAA28411; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:02:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203150902.BAA28411@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: bde@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks Cc: rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:02:03 -0800 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.4/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I don't know exactly what causes the b_to_q message. It is most likely >a race in close. You can first-open tty's that are blocked in last-close, >and having this open succeed is very important for unblocking the close >usi9ng "comcontrol /dev/foo drainwait ", but the tty system doesn't >seem to do nearly enough to handle races here. It happened to me on shutdown, with a serial console. Mar 15 00:58:10 stash reboot: rebooted by fenner panic: b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks. Debugger("panic") Stopped at Debugger+0x40: xorl %eax,%eax db> t Debugger(c03ebb5b) at Debugger+0x40 panic(c03f18c0) at panic+0x70 b_to_q(c7f9bb14,35,c1361a38,0,c7f9bcc8) at b_to_q+0x35 ttwrite(c1361a00,c7f9bcc8,20011,c04b5e80,c7f9bbb4) at ttwrite+0x34c siowrite(c04b5e80,c7f9bcc8,20011,c04b5e80,c7f9bb80) at siowrite+0x78 cnwrite(c04b63d0,c7f9bcc8,20011,c04b63d0,35) at cnwrite+0x74 spec_write(c7f9bc20,c7f9bc34,c02b0c23,c7f9bc20,35) at spec_write+0x5d spec_vnoperate(c7f9bc20,35,c7615500,0,11) at spec_vnoperate+0x15 vn_write(c1392b40,c7f9bcc8,c0a8c980,0,c7615500) at vn_write+0x19f writev(c7615500,c7f9bd20,8054000,bfbfef64,bfbfef34) at writev+0x19a syscall(2f,2f,bfbf002f,bfbfef34,bfbfef64) at syscall+0x278 syscall_with_err_pushed() at syscall_with_err_pushed+0x1b --- syscall (121, FreeBSD ELF, writev), eip = 0x280aae73, esp = 0xbfbfe960, ebp = 0xbfbfe9cc --- I have a dump, if it'd help. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 5:21:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com (mailout09.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9121A37B419; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16lqz3-00014H-0K; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:38:57 +0100 Received: from twoflower (320072111332-0001@[217.80.127.68]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16lqyz-27VE6SC; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:38:53 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Jan Stocker" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: "Alexander Kabaev" , "Martin Blapp" , , , , , , , Subject: RE: gcc -O broken in CURRENT Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:37:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c1cc1e$318e9e80$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C911606.D9F74169@mindspring.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Sender: 320072111332-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > 2) Bug is in os delivered gcc but not in port gcc. > > a) port has more or less patches / os gcc has been modified > > --> Didn't someone told they are the same? > > b) other options were set at compile time > > --> Why dont change to the same in the port? > > Leads it to a broken world? > > If the only difference is the lost of binary compatibility, > > i would say, ok... do it now and we'll need to compile > > or ports... > > SOme bugs are related to the FreeBSD use of setjmp/longjmp > to do exception unwinding rather than using the DWARF primitives. > > When you change the toolchain, you change the exception unwinding > code when you use the ports version. > > You also introduce incompatabilities with the installed libstdc++ > library, which uses the setjmp/longjmp exception unwinding, which > will be in conflict with any exception throwing/handling code > compiled with the ports compiler that uses the DWARF2 version. > > The tests that show it working with the ports version do not test > anything other than bare-bones operation, without testing code > interoperability eith vendor libraries. > > Does that clear things up for you? A little bit... most of you argumenting about binary incompatibility for -stable. OK... no chance to do it there, its my opinion too. But why not doing it for current and using that most common dwarf unwinding now (for a later ia64 port it should be faster than setjump i think). Okay everything needs a recompile but this -current is current and not a production os. You're right that we need a patch for -stable. But if we take the approach for -current maybe we leave these problems behind us and following the path of the rank and file (using dwarf2) and making profit of their experience versus doing this ourself and creating patches. > -----Original Message----- > From: David O'Brien [mailto:obrien@FreeBSD.ORG] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:16 PM > To: Jan Stocker > Cc: Alexander Kabaev; Martin Blapp; tlambert2@mindspring.com; > imp@village.org; edhall@weirdnoise.com; kris@obsecurity.org; > current@FreeBSD.ORG; hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com > Subject: Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:36:05PM +0100, Jan Stocker wrote: > > 2) Bug is in os delivered gcc but not in port gcc. > > a) port has more or less patches / os gcc has been modified > > --> Didn't someone told they are the same? > > Port has less patches. If you look at > /usr/src/contrib/gcc/contrib/freebsd.h and > /usr/src/contrib/gcc/contrib/i386/freebsd.h you will see how much things > have to be modified because we support dual ELF/a.out [still]. This may be changed too for 5.0 shouldnt it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 7:33:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hfep02.dion.ne.jp (hfep02.dion.ne.jp [203.181.105.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E0137B417 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([61.200.133.72]) by hfep02.dion.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20020315153308405.XQUN@hfep02.dion.ne.jp> for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 00:33:08 +0900 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: duplicate lock message on boot X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020316003102P.haro@h4.dion.ne.jp> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 00:31:02 +0900 From: Munehiro Matsuda X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 26 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Has anybody seen this message before? CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (595.58-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 125829120 (122880K bytes) acquiring duplicate lock of same type: "thrd_sleep" 1st @ ../../../vm/vm_map.c:2288 2nd @ ../../../vm/vm_kern.c:172 It's a 5.0-CURRENT from Fri Mar 15 01:14:08 JST 2002 Thanks, Haro =------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Business Incubation Dept., Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103-8310, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-3245-3315 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 7:52:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wagsky.com (wildside.wagsky.com [64.220.148.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43F237B405 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by smtp.wagsky.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2FFqHF85114 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:52:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff+freebsd@wagsky.com) X-Authentication-Warning: wildside.wagsky.com: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Kletsky X-Sender: jeff@wildside.wagsky.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With apologies for an incomplete report, I am including the (manually transcribed) dump information. I have been able to network boot from a combination of the boot.flp and bin distribution (though there are problems with getting sysinstall to find disks that prevent that approach so far) and confirm that the hw.pcic interrupt routing sysctls *are* required. So the report that follows is based on using floppies from 5.0-20020314-CURRENT, including the one referred to as 'acpi.ko.flp' in the "Failed workaround" description below. To reproduce, follow the steps 1-7 outlined below. The tail end of the process appears as: OK load acpi.ko /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x2b5a0 data=0x1558+0x6cc syms=[0x4+0x4ed0+0x4+0x675a] OK boot / int=00000006 err=00000000 efl=00010006 eip=c03069f0 eax=00000001 ebx=009aec00 ecx=00000000 edx=00000102 esi=009ae000 edi=009b6000 ebp=00000000 esp=c09b1d98 cs=0008 ds=0010 es=0010 fs=0010 gs=0010 ss=0010 cs:eip=ff ff ff 83 ec 18 57 ff-ff a1 84 15 37 c0 a3 0c 77 38 c0 a1 88 15 37 c0-a3 e4 77 38 c0 05 a0 1d ss:esp=04 94 12 c0 00 60 9b 00-00 e0 9a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BTX halted I am willing to try reasonable steps and debugging here. Unfortunately, the BIOS driving the USB floppy seems to take about 10 min. to read a floppy, so it testing multiple scenarios is somewhat painful. I will be working with bootable CD configurations today, though the iLINK (IEEE-1394) connection there has its own share of problems (no non-BIOS support of the drive). At least with floppies, it *should* be a supported configuration. (Note however the reported issues with fixit only being mountable from /dev/fd0, not /dev/da0). Jeff On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Jeff Kletsky wrote: > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:49:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeff Kletsky > To: current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install (fwd) > > Tried the "obvious" -- manually loading acpi.ko -- still fails > > On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Jeff Kletsky wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:41:01 -0800 (PST) > > From: Jeff Kletsky > > To: current@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install > > > > Having been unable to confirm a complete and proper installation of > > 5.0-CURRENT on my Sony PCG-SRX7/EP (similar to SRX77) laptop using the > > 4.5-RELEASE installer, I have made a bootable CD from > > 5.0-20020313-CURRENT, as well as floppies from 5.0-20020314-CURRENT. > > Both exhibit the same set of symptoms. > > [...] > > > > > Results in: > > > > ACPI autoload failed - no such file or directory > > - > > [dump followed] > > Failed workaround: > > 1) Create floppies using dd > 2) Make another copy of the mfsroot floopy, > > mount /dev/fd0 /mnt > rm -rf /mnt/* > mkdir -p /mnt/boot/kernel > > copy acpi.ko to /mnt/boot/kernel > > ### Note that copying to root of floppy fails on load attempt ### > ### This is inconsistent with the loader (8) manpage in 5.0 ### > > umount /mnt > > 3) Boot from kern.flp > 4) Load mfsroot.flp > 5) Interrupt boot process > > set hw.pcic.intr_path=1 > set hw.pcic.irq=0 > > 6) Remove mfsroot.flp, insert 'acpi.ko.flp' > > load acpi.ko > > ('boot'ing here causes the BTX to halt if the acpi.ko.flp is still > in the drive) > > 7) Remove acpi.ko.flp, insert mfsroot.flp > > boot > > ...and watch the BTX halt > > > Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 9:15:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0408437B400; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0312.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.43.57] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16lvIM-0001W0-00; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:15:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3C922C0B.AC440E75@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:14:51 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jstocker@tzi.de Cc: Alexander Kabaev , Martin Blapp , imp@village.org, edhall@weirdnoise.com, kris@obsecurity.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com Subject: Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT References: <000001c1cc1e$318e9e80$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan Stocker wrote: [ ... DWARF vs. setjmp/longjmp ... ] > A little bit... most of you argumenting about binary incompatibility > for -stable. OK... no chance to do it there, its my opinion too. But why not > doing it for current and using that most common dwarf unwinding now (for a > later ia64 port it should be faster than setjump i think). Okay everything > needs a recompile but this -current is current and not a production os. > > You're right that we need a patch for -stable. But if we take the approach > for -current maybe we leave these problems behind us and following the path > of the rank and file (using dwarf2) and making profit of their experience > versus doing this ourself and creating patches. I guess it's possible to change over entirely. That would mean we would loase a.out support because the GNU tools are becoming incapable of supporting a.out ("all machines we run on are Linux machines" syndrome). If we really wanted to avoid problems like this in the future, we'd just scrap FreeBSD entirely, and go to Linux, a bit at a time, starting with ELF, then DWARF2 exceptions, and then the Linux ABI instead of the FreeBSD ABI, and then all of Linux, a piece at a time. PS: If I sound annoyed, it's because it's sometimes annoying to have your toolchain controlled by someone with an interest in a product that competes with yours; that works for people competing with Microsoft products on Microsoft platforms with a need to use Microsoft tools, and it applies to Cygnus being owned by RedHat and them controlling the FreeBSD tools. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 9:23:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271CD37B400; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 6B5F55346; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:23:36 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Doug Barton Cc: Murray Stokely , , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Preparing innocent users for -current References: <20020308110442.G32653-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 Mar 2002 18:23:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020308110442.G32653-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton writes: > 1. phk malloc debugging flags enabled by default. Solutions include > recompiling apps, and toggling things off in /etc/malloc.conf. No recompiling needed; if you don't like the default options, just # ln -s aj /etc/malloc.conf > 2. pam modules break backwards compatibility with pam apps compiled on > RELENG_4. The only solution I've been offered is to recompile things (or, > my preferred solution, don't use pam). Wrong. PAM modules are now versioned, and old (unversioned) modules will not be clobbered. We might want to put the old libpam and modules in COMPAT_4X though. > 3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is "a > well-know bug in printf(9)," caused by "The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when > printf() is called while sched_lock is held." I reported this bug in > October 2001, if anyone wants to look through the archives. Ages-old, very difficult to fix. Just don't use xconsole. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 9:41:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from squall.waterspout.com (squall.waterspout.com [208.13.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6347A37B41E; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by squall.waterspout.com (Postfix, from userid 1050) id A8A299B08; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:41:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:41:17 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.x packages and request for help. Message-ID: <20020315174117.GY53073@squall.waterspout.com> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Zepeda , Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020314163143.A47940@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020314175440.B64023@zippy.mybox.zip> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 05:54:40PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: > As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build > and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know > why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really care. > For me disabling WITNESS does more than enough to make KDE useable on my > -current box (2xP2-450). Um.. objprelink is disabled if OSVERSION >= 500029. So it is already "ripped out" for -current. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 9:53:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5D637B49C for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FHrhlv044243; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:53:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2FHqSML044241; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:52:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:52:28 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jan Stocker Cc: Terry Lambert , Alexander Kabaev , Martin Blapp , imp@village.org, edhall@weirdnoise.com, kris@obsecurity.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com Subject: Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT Message-ID: <20020315095228.B44160@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3C911606.D9F74169@mindspring.com> <000001c1cc1e$318e9e80$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c1cc1e$318e9e80$fe02010a@twoflower.liebende.de>; from jstocker@tzi.de on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 01:37:39PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 01:37:39PM +0100, Jan Stocker wrote: > A little bit... most of you argumenting about binary incompatibility > for -stable. OK... no chance to do it there, its my opinion too. But why not > doing it for current and using that most common dwarf unwinding now (for a There is no need to cause developers to go thru several ABI changes such that they cannot get their other FreeBSD development done. With GCC 3.1 a number of ABI changes will happen. > > Port has less patches. If you look at > > /usr/src/contrib/gcc/contrib/freebsd.h and > > /usr/src/contrib/gcc/contrib/i386/freebsd.h you will see how much things > > have to be modified because we support dual ELF/a.out [still]. > > This may be changed too for 5.0 shouldnt it? Why? I don't see how you justfied removing the functionality and I don't see how it is causing you any problems being there. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 11: 8:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from encontacto.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A2837B404; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 0) by encontacto.net with local; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:08:20 -0800 Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@encontacto.net@mail.encontacto.net by Mail.EnContacto.Net with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:08:20 -0800 Message-ID: <1016219300.3c9246a41bc23@Mail.EnContacto.Net> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:08:20 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: hardware@Freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Problem booting FreeBSD a SYM53C896 SCSI controller. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed current on a sym53c896 scsi controller but can't boot. It has two disks with boot manager installed and I get the F1 F5 options but neither do anything by clicking or by waiting. I can boot from floppy or cd and mount da0s1a, execute commands from bin and sbin but I cannot get it to boot. I even tried installing RELENG4 and the same problem. Has anyone seen this and have a solution? Thanks, ed ------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 11:18:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB33A37B402; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2FJHiF17277; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:17:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:17:40 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Nate Williams Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm , Murray Stokely , current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) In-Reply-To: <15505.25883.350996.459890@caddis.yogotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Nate Williams wrote: > Only in very rare cases do we run into a problem where we have to create > a branch. In that case, the developer responsible for the release > creates a branch from his checked out tree (there's no law against > creating a branch from sources that are older than the HEAD), and then > makes any necessary changes. It's worth noting that the rationale for the branch was that we *want* -CURRENT development to continue at a wild and merry pace, and *expect* that it will. Once the branch occurs, Jeff is free to replace the kernel memory allocator, etc. Local tweaks on the branch may include backing out some of the more recent changes to locking (the VM changes, for example -- there have been some reports of stability problems from Alfred). I.e., there is a specific development process goal to be accomplished using the branch. My feeling is that at this point, we probably should just use Perforce due to limitations in CVS. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 11:48: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC437B41E for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (myhakas.estpak.ee [194.126.115.54]) by zen.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566D16E915 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:47:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FJlVMb004912 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:47:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo@myhakas.estpak.ee) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2FJlVrS004911 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:47:31 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:47:31 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Gvim link problem is still actual Message-ID: <20020315194731.GA4862@myhakas.estpak.ee> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Just tried again with newly built world and kernel using vim from ports. This is built with ATHENA widget support and the only difference in make.conf from default is CPUTYPE=i686. What's wrong with -current? Gvim will build and work well under -stable. /usr/ports/editors/vim/Makefile: $FreeBSD: ports/editors/vim/Makefile,v 1.186 2002/03/10 18:45:45 obrien Exp $ myhakas:root# ldd /opt/portbuild/usr/ports/editors/vim/work/vim61b/src/vim /opt/portbuild/usr/ports/editors/vim/work/vim61b/src/vim: libXaw.so.7 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0x28159000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x281ac000) libncurses.so.5 => /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x281b9000) libgiconv.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libgiconv.so.2 (0x281fb000) libc.so.5 => /usr/lib/libc.so.5 (0x282cf000) libXThrStub.XDeleteProperty => not found (0x0) libXThrStubXtVaGetValues => not found (0x0) libXThrStub.XDefaultScreen => not found (0x0) libXThrStub.XpmFreeAttributes => not found (0x0) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x28385000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x2839a000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x283e3000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x283ec000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28402000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x284ba000) libXThrStub.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x284c8000) -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 12:40:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF15437B400; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2FKeF4B146198; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:40:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:40:14 -0500 To: Robert Watson , Nate Williams From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:17 PM -0500 3/15/02, Robert Watson wrote: >My feeling is that at this point, we probably should just use >Perforce due to limitations in CVS. This seems fine to me. I am uneasy about perforce in cases where someone is developing something which is *meant* to be merged back into the main branch, and anyone interested in that change is told "just check the P4 repository". That is not what is happening here. I would not *push* to have this done in P4, but I certainly do not mind if the RE team wants to handle it that way. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 12:41: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF15437B400; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2FKeF4B146198; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:40:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:40:14 -0500 To: Robert Watson , Nate Williams From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:17 PM -0500 3/15/02, Robert Watson wrote: >My feeling is that at this point, we probably should just use >Perforce due to limitations in CVS. This seems fine to me. I am uneasy about perforce in cases where someone is developing something which is *meant* to be merged back into the main branch, and anyone interested in that change is told "just check the P4 repository". That is not what is happening here. I would not *push* to have this done in P4, but I certainly do not mind if the RE team wants to handle it that way. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 12:54:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A7C37B417; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id DFECA5346; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:54:47 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Emiel Kollof Cc: "Crist J. Clark" , huntting@glarp.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.5->5.0 kldxref:No such file or directory References: <200203122105.g2CL56p02307@hunkular.glarp.com> <20020312174502.K29705@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020313031335.GA70809@hackerheaven.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 Mar 2002 21:54:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020313031335.GA70809@hackerheaven.org> Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Emiel Kollof writes: > Why not test for it like this (or similar): > > [ -x /usr/sbin/kldxref ] && /usr/bin/kldxref (etcetera...) A better solution is @(kldxref ${DESTDIR}${KMODDIR} || \ echo "Ignoring non-fatal kldxref failure") DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 13:22:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B96E37B402 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 8D4B65346; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:22:02 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: John Indra Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE) References: <20020314104525.B8244@office.naver.co.id> <40628.1016085846@critter.freebsd.dk> <20020314132451.F8244@office.naver.co.id> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 Mar 2002 22:22:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020314132451.F8244@office.naver.co.id> Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Indra writes: > Glad to know that there is no problem with malloc() in -CURRENT. But I still > think that this must be addressed in Perl. So maybe, the stock Perl should > be built against its own malloc library? No! That would break anything that loads system libraries into Perl, like Authen::PAM, because you'd end up calling system malloc() followed by Perl free(), or the other way around. Please stop pretending this is a FreeBSD bug - it's a bug in Perl, which anally tries to conserve microscopic amounts of memory by growing strings in small increments instead of using the traditional (and far more efficient and elegant) 2n + 1 algorithm. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 13:55:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.yumyumyum.org (dsl092-171-091.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.171.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 435DB37B416 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30685 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2002 21:55:00 -0000 Received: from dsl092-171-091.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net (66.92.171.91) by dsl092-171-091.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2002 21:55:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:54:59 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Culver To: Terry Lambert Cc: jstocker@tzi.de, Alexander Kabaev , Martin Blapp , , , , , , , Subject: Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT In-Reply-To: <3C922C0B.AC440E75@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20020315165304.O30658-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I guess it's possible to change over entirely. That would > mean we would loase a.out support because the GNU tools are > becoming incapable of supporting a.out ("all machines we > run on are Linux machines" syndrome). > > If we really wanted to avoid problems like this in the future, > we'd just scrap FreeBSD entirely, and go to Linux, a bit at a > time, starting with ELF, then DWARF2 exceptions, and then > the Linux ABI instead of the FreeBSD ABI, and then all of Linux, > a piece at a time. At the risk of being yelled at, I have a question: Why do we still need to support a.out? I know that a lot of people MIGHT still have some a.out binaries lying around, but FreeBSD's default binary format has been ELF for 3 or 4 years (Since 3.0-3.1 I believe). I'm not saying that we should entirely switch over to the regular gnu toolchain, but is it really necessary to keep supporting a.out? Just my $0.02 Ken > > PS: If I sound annoyed, it's because it's sometimes annoying > to have your toolchain controlled by someone with an interest > in a product that competes with yours; that works for people > competing with Microsoft products on Microsoft platforms with > a need to use Microsoft tools, and it applies to Cygnus being > owned by RedHat and them controlling the FreeBSD tools. > > -- Terry > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 15 14:11:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF31D37B400 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2FMBj511655 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:11:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:11:45 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: current@freebsd.org Subject: strange apm/acpi message on CPQ Armada E700 Message-ID: <20020315231145.A11629@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I just went -current with my Compaq Armada E700 laptop. Coming from -stable. I'm a bit puzzled by: WKB ~: apm APM version: 1.2 APM Managment: Enabled AC Line status: off-line Battery status: charging Remaining battery life: invalid value (0xffffffff) Remaining battery time: unknown Number of batteries: 0 APM Capacities: unknown dmesg also has some strange things it appears Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Fri Mar 15 22:48:40 CET 2002 root@wilklt.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/WILKLT Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0436000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc04360a8. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 498669634 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (498.67-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 268369920 (262080K bytes) avail memory = 256614400 (250600K bytes) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Using $PIR table, 268435454 entries at 0xc00f0970 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard ACPI-1305: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 ACPI timer looks BAD min = 2, max = 6, width = 5 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x5008-0x500b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcic0: mem 0x41100000-0x41100fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci0 pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [speaker enable][pwr save][CSC serial isa irq] pccard0: on pcic0 pcic1: mem 0x41180000-0x41180fff irq 11 at device 4.1 on pci0 pcic1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [speaker enable][pwr save][CSC serial isa irq] pccard1: on pcic1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x3420-0x342f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x3400-0x341f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x3000-0x30ff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fxp0: port 0x3440-0x347f mem 0x41200000-0x4121ffff,0x41280000-0x41280fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:59:0b:f3:c2 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at device 9.1 (no driver attached) orm0: