From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 28 21:24:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2473816A41C for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 21:24:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EADB43D49 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 21:24:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [192.168.200.2] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j4SLNvwc042552; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:23:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <4298E16B.5030403@401.cx> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:23:55 +0200 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200505281540.j4SFevod017236@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200505281540.j4SFevod017236@fire.jhs.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Subject: Re: Romanian BitDefender for FreeBSD Mail Servers line X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:24:19 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > All, inc Daniel, > advocacy@ list is not a web designers chat room. > Regular hot air here from various people about web page design is Tedious. > - advocacy@ is the Wrong Address to change content of www.freebsd.org > - Use send-pr to submit web page corrections (for a commit to cvs/www). > - www@ exists - use it ! > Ref http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-www > "A mailing list that allows you to send mail to the > Webmasters, the managers of FreeBSD Project web servers > (not web servers that hosted on FreeBSD computers)." > - webmaster@ is an RFC standard address, consider that too. I do believe that the official website is by far the biggest channel of promoting FreeBSD that we currently have, and as such, I believe that any discussion about replacing, improving or in any other way change it clearly qualifies as FreeBSD advocacy related. And, if I understood it correctly, he was not requesting an immediate change to the webpage. He stepped up and announced a *will* to change it, and was asking for feedback and thoughts. When the community, ie advocacy@, approves of his work and agrees on a actual website change, then it would be time to involve the webmasters (they are of course welcome to join the discussion earlier if they so wish). I have been subscribed to this list for a long time, and I cant recall website design as a subject being discussed even once. The design of freebsd.org on the other hand frequently comes up, but I consider that to be as advocacy related as anything else discussed here. I can see that we simply disagree here, but the fact that this discussion pops up every other month clearly shows that there are a lot of people that wants something to happen. Seeing people chasing them off the list everytime is something *I* find tedious. -- R