From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 26 15:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06118 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from itchy.atlas.com ([206.29.170.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06110 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brantk@localhost) by itchy.atlas.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) id OAA16837; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:45:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611262245.OAA16837@itchy.atlas.com> Subject: Re: Replacing sendmail To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:45:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, peter@taronga.com, bmk@fta.com, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, brantk@atlas.com, hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: brantk@atlas.com In-Reply-To: <199611262234.QAA17750@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Nov 26, 96 04:34:25 pm" From: "Brant Katkansky" Reply-to: bmk@pobox.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Not in this particular set of examples, no, but understand that > > services have many more options *other* than security which you'd also > > eventually want to fold into the same mechanism. To contrive more examples: > > > > mail_control -fast_queue_depth 10 > > mail_control -bounce_warnings no > > mail_control -add-virtual "fred sfred@scurvy.com" > > > > lp_control -polled-mode > > lp_control -set-type HP500C > > > > All of which might be reasonable things to want if you were intending > > to write a more robust front-end for a variety of service options. > > > > Think "big picture", guys. :-) > > That's a nice big picture, I agree, but I am not talking about > configuration of packages. That might very WELL be addressed through > a mechanism like what you are describing! > > I am more interested in the MANAGEMENT of packages, i.e., is a particular > package available and/or enabled? That is a higher level ("bigger > picture" ;-) ) question than configuration particulars. > > CONFIGURATION of packages is a problem as well. I am not sure that it > is wise to try to solve both problems with the same tool, but am certainly > willing to discuss it if you believe that it is (I will tell you now: I have > a preconceived notion that it is not a good idea). > I'm of the same mind as Joe on this, but I don't see it as a problem to wedge it in elegantly in the future: pkg_control -config subsystem [opts] where opts are arguments that are passed to subsystem's config script/program. -- Brant Katkansky (bmk@pobox.com, brantk@atlas.com) Software Engineer, ADC