From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 15 14:46:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21568 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:46:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21556 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:46:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12236; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:42:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803152242.OAA12236@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Robert Watson cc: Mike Smith , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DEVFS (was Re: More problems with new slice code ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:28:01 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:42:40 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > > The nodes are completely dynamic; when a device is found (eg. at boot > > time, or when a PCCARD is inserted, or when a PCI LKM is loaded, or > > whenever) they appear, and when a device goes away (card removed, etc.) > > they disappear. > > Mike, > > Will it still be possible to create/use device nodes with mknod, etc, > elsewhere in the file system? No. The whole 'major/minor' number concept will ultimately be phased out, and device identifiers will be dynamically assigned. This basically makes static device nodes unuseful. Having said that, it will indeed be possible to have device nodes appear in more than one place, and have different permissions etc. in those separate places, which is I think what you are getting at (chrooted environments, etc.) If you're interested in getting a taste of this (and providing valuable feedback early in the picture), there are patches for -current which impement large portions of this already. See http://www.freebsd.org/~julian for more. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message