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Date:      Thu, 28 May 2020 22:47:01 +0200
From:      Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Back to the topic of the original thread: FreeBSD Cert
Message-ID:  <20200528224701.7cc6f222@archlinux>
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On Thu, 28 May 2020 14:53:36 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions <
>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxrVgYlUYAAp8eb.jpg  
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>> SICR
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>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html  
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>Saying something makes "you look an idiot" *IS NOT THE SAME* as saying
>you are idiot... an other language translation problem I think.   If
>you think the first means the second then no wonder we are not
>communicating.

My interpretation of the picture is that not being a developer, IOW
not being an expert, means to be a clueless women. And "clueless
woman" is tautological. It's sexism.

It's trivial to _program_ a digital video recorder to automatically
record a television programme, but it's not trivial to translate data
into _code_. In the end it's not that important for this thread, so
back to the topic:

Important is that UNIX alike operating systems have got a login shell
that is useful for an admin, poweruser and even for the clueless user to
customize the machine, to the user's (operator's) needs. So starting
with writing scripts is essential, starting with learning how to
maintain a port is grotesque. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scripter

Using and customizing/optimizing a computer neither requires programmer
nor coder skills. Most could be done by using existing software and
writing shell scripts. Even a disgusting bad written shell script could
do the wanted job.

Scripts are portable. A newbie could start with FreeBSD and stay
with FreeBSD or migrate to another UNIX alike operating system.

Getting used to man(ual) pages is very useful.

Learning how to use a terminal emulation is very useful.



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