From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 00:08:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E92616A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6B113C43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 114739352-1860479 for multiple; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:05:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:05:16 -0400 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Christopher Hilton , User Questions Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:08:33 -0000 On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:29 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Christopher >> Hilton >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:45 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: User Questions >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam >> >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>> When I scan my maillogs I find that 22% of the hosts that >>>> generate a >>>> greylisting entry retry the mail delivery and thus get >>>> whitelisted. The >>>> other 78% don't attempt redelivery within the greylisting window. >>> >>> That's probably par. >>> >>> However, the reason your putting so much faith in the delaying, >> is simply >>> that you aren't getting a lot of spam. >>> >>> I have published e-mail addresses. Without greylisting I got about >>> 1500-2000 mail messages a day to each of them. >>> >>> >> >> Greylisting isn't just about delaying. IIRC greylisting is >> filtering for >> spam/ham based on behaviour in the message originators MTA. My >> greylister is using two behavioural assumptions: >> >> Spamming MTA's don't have the capability to queue and retry >> mail. >> Asking them to queue and retry will cause them to drop the mail on >> the >> floor thus filtering spam. >> >> Spamming MTA's don't like to be tarpitted. Stuttering at >> them and >> sizing the TCP Windows so they must wait will result in them >> disconnecting before they can exchanged mail thus filtering spam. >> > > Both of those are assumptions your making that are just not true > anymore. > Spammers are adapting to greylisting. I've been running it for at > least 2 years now and every month more and more spam is making it > past the greylist and getting caught by spamassassin. As I mentioned > previously, it does not take a lot of programming effort to do it. Sure they're adapting. They're also adapting to Spamassassin. The fact that it doesn't take a lot of programming effort isn't the reason, though, since it doesn't take a lot of effort to NOT TOP POST yet people continue to do so. > When I first setup greylisting the results were literally spectacular. > Nowadays they are great, but not much beyond that. All of the > things your > saying about greylisting decreasing the load and all that are true, > and > just because it's not as effective as it once was doesen't mean you > should > not use it. But, I am not blind to what my eyes are telling me. In > aonther 5 years, greylisting will be like all other spamfilter > techniques, effective only against a minority of spam And yet there are still people, despite the problem spammers are creating, who think that email is a vital and reliable service upon which to hinge the success or failure of their business relations. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 00:19:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE93F16A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBC513C455 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 114739081-1860479 for multiple; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:01:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4AF11324-1013-4C53-879D-55B709E257F2@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:00:56 -0400 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Eric Crist , Grant Peel , Christopher Hilton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:19:43 -0000 On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:bsilver@chrononomicon.com] >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam >> >> >> >> On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their >>> mail >>> to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail >>> address is >>> in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server >>> failure. >>> I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started >>> greylisting. It >>> isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to >>> reject >>> it, although in your case it probably was. >> >> If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the auto- >> whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most intelligent >> greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, >> until it is established as legitimate. >> > > That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure > that causes > a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. > By the > time the pages got through the > greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had gone > down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. What? What do you mean, a failure that causes a problem which results in paging once every 3 months? If your mail server tries to contact another mail server and it can't reach it, you're saying your mail server doesn't retry for an hour? Even if it does take an hour, the fact that it retried the server on the other side doing the greylisting means it would be whitelisted after a couple mails. If you're doing something SO critical that three or four mails delayed an hour, until you're establishes as a legit user, means life or death, you definitely should be doing something that backs up how you communicate with other sites, or you're not such a big fish that the other sites have already added you manually to their whitelists like AOL or Amazon mail servers would most likely be already, or other local ISPs that are known legit and I just don't feel like waiting for the system to add them automatically. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 01:03:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D81016A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD7713C44B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3T10Q10010032; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:00:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3T10QQr010031; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:00:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:00:26 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Graham North Message-ID: <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:03:08 -0000 On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 11:21:20AM -0700, Graham North wrote: > I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of > doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. > The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install > but also three additional (mount points?) > /proc > /net > /host No problem. /proc is sort of a psuedo file system that enables some routines such as top to look at certain pieces of information. Probably /net and /host are also psuedo file systems, but I have never seen them before. If they are legit, they are for something I do not run. > The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on > it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount > points? A mount point is just a directory where the system attaches pointers to some type of data structure. You create a mountpoint using the mkdir command just like with a directory. It only becomes a mountpoint when something is attached to it - a file system or some other system structure. Of course, actual file systems such as for / or /usr or /home are the most common seen, others, including memory file systems can be created and attached to a directory. When a filesystem is mounted over a directory, if there is something else in the directory - other files and directories - they are covered up until the attached item is unmounted. That all probably isn't very clear, but it should at least let you not worry too much. ////jerry > Thanks, > Graham/ > > -- > > Graham North > Vancouver BC > Canada > > www.soleado.ca > > Kindness is infectous, try it. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 01:22:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136E116A403 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E777513C459 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-109-158-80.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.158.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l3T1Mn05012328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions From: Doug Hardie Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:22:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/3177/Sat Apr 28 16:51:21 2007 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Quotas on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:22:52 -0000 I understand quotas were broken in 6.1. I am testing 6.2 where I thought they were working again. However, it behaves considerably differently from 5.x. I set both a hard and soft limit on a user to the same value. Adding disk usage to that user past that limit succeeds. quota shows the limit as having been exceeded but with a grace period of 7 days. I don't want a grace period, but a hard limit. I used edquota -t to change the grace periods for the partition to 1 day (per the man page). However, it still shows a 7 day grace period with quota and the limit is not enforced. Did I miss something or is there still a problem with quotas. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 01:52:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3130716A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0A13C459 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l3T1t5vH092696; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l3T1t4x5092695; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:55:04 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Danny Pansters Message-ID: <20070429015503.GA92606@thought.org> References: <20070428195720.GA34336@thought.org> <200704290032.37933.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200704290032.37933.danny@ricin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:52:52 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak > > playing with various window managers (aka "desktops"). Stuck. > > To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land: > > > > A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox) > > I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several > > tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows > > video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer > > backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in > > real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and > > trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up. > > > > I've reached the "File Association" -> "Audio" and to > > "x-pn-realplay" {or something like that}, then I'm wedged. > > Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm, > > .ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay???? > > > > thanks for any help! > > > > > > gary > > First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must have > the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a bitch. But > it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in konqueror's config > and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types with. And for embedding > (the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or whatsitcalled as the first or only. Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab. But then what? Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror?? > > Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil, > vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. If > you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a oddly > mime-ified stream that wont play. > I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server. Maybe I'll just scp it over and see. > There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the plugin > that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in the webpage > but at least it does support moving back and forth in the stream. To make > this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an appropriate libmap.conf. Well getting the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter! Do you have one to send? Or anyone else on-list? > > Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the > earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because it > can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if something > with Real doesn't work I can always try to "Open with.." realplayer instead. :-) I do the open-with and it starts to work/tries to, then hangs. I'd just like to be able to watch the BBC/PBS stuff and listen to Windose or Real streams without too much hassle! > > HTH, So far, so good, thankee! gary > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 02:17:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0E216A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322DC13C469 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.126.17.68]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20070429021735.TCVG13783.mta13.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:17:35 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 23A13BA94; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:18:00 -0400 From: Parv To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Jerry McAllister , Graham North , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Graham North Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: f-q List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:17:36 -0000 in message <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>, wrote Jerry McAllister thusly... > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 11:21:20AM -0700, Graham North wrote: > > > I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in > > anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new > > machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were > > created at install but also three additional (mount points?) > > /proc > > /net > > /host > > No problem. /proc is sort of a psuedo file system that enables > some routines such as top to look at certain pieces of > information. > > Probably /net and /host are also psuedo file systems, but I have > never seen them before. If they are legit, they are for something > I do not run. Could it be that /{ne,hos}t mount points are due to use of a{manda,utomounter}? - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 02:27:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5503616A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE2813C457 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal (svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal [10.0.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l3T2RbRH007756; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:27:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 1, 4, 441) id ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:27:37 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:27:36 +1000 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DF2D1@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? Thread-Index: AceJwyD2cCVdH3tpSUSQbwftgqLe5AAQlXig From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Garrett Cooper" , Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:27:41 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Garrett Cooper > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:28 AM > To: perryh@pluto.rain.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will=20 > FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? >=20 > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >> OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there > >> still isn't a native (Aqua) build. > >=20 > > I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) >=20 > Yes >_>.. I mean that the latest and greatest version of OOo isn't=20 > available for Aqua native yet. It's going to take another=20 > year to port,=20 > as someone has claimed already. >=20 > There was a big leap in terms of functionality from 1.x vs=20 > 2.x in OOo,=20 > but then again considering that the OP was asking about=20 > running Office=20 > 98 (:D..), I don't think he'd mind running the 1.x version binaries. >=20 > -Garrett As the original poster wants to write books .... may I suggest that he use a text editor and then a typesetter combination rather than any form of=20 WYSIWYG wordprocessor. IE use (insert favourite text editor here) then use the LaTeX / Tetex port to actually properly format the material as a book. Yes there is a learning curve here, but the end result is all=20 over a wordprocessed attempt. mjt --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:39:10 -0000 On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 10:20:27PM -0400, james thompson wrote: > How difficult is FreeBSD to use in place of MS windows, say compared to > Apple OSX? Well, it depends on your personality and work habits and expectations. I find FreeBSD easier to use than MS and have had very little contact with MAC so can't say much about that one. But, I don't like the windows way of working. I prefer a command line and text based environment. > I believe it may be able to run Offide 98; can Office 98 > with Publisher be ran on FreeBSD? You can get utilities called emulators and virtual environments to allow many MS type things to run, but you need to know that FreeBSD is not at all like MS Windows except that it runs on a computer and you can bring up multiple screens. The two are completely different and incompatible systems. As an Operating System (OS), that is robust and secure and powerful, FreeBSD is much superior to MS-win, but it does things very differently. Generally, if you really want to mainly use actual MS programs, then you probably really want to run MS, rather than trying to run them on FreeBSD. > I want to use FreeBSD to compose > articles, and combine them into a Book for publication, as a Home Office > Operation by a person with little experience beyond windows. In 1995, > I took a MicroComputer Operating Systems course in Windows 3.11 and DOS > 6.22. I have used Windows 95, 98, and XP Home & upgraded to Media Edition. There are many good alternatives to MS utilities for these things. The OpenOffice system can substitute for MS Word and Excel, etc. But those might not be the best for book writing. Learning to create with a straight text editor and include text markups for some formatting language is probably a better solution. Those are all readily available in FreeBSD and are better in FreeBSD than in MS, actually. But, FreeBSD takes some learning to use well. Although once you do learn about it, it will seem quite natural to use, it takes a while to get to that point. Learning by doing with handbook readily availble is the way to go. In the [not very] long run, it will be worth it. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 03:57:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817D216A403 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25B1213C489 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 73715 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 03:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.27.1.5?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.227 with plain) by smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2007 03:57:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZY17n6cVM1kOMKBvUNv8n53ixPwEZUlmCFyIudaN2x99NrpZItS8_Fl9G7C7v3brqw-- Message-ID: <463417C0.60501@hier7.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:57:52 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:57:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-04-28 14:21, Graham North wrote: > I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of > doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. > The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install > but also three additional (mount points?) > /proc > /net > /host > > The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on > it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount > points? 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 06:01:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B0516A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8265213C45E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.9]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH8002HKWPBOT60@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JH80043KWPB6M50@pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([24.81.202.129]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH8008RBWP93U40@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:00:44 -0700 From: Graham North In-reply-to: <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> To: Jerry McAllister , Graham North , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:01:44 -0000 Hi Parv: And also thanks to the other people who responded earlier. I did not knowingly set up automounter - is this something I would have had to do? or part of a default install? I am still hoping that somebody can tell me what /net and /host are - inted? samba?? Thanks again. Graham/ btw: My previous send seems to have bounced... It read: Hmmm. My system is 4.11 so that would explain /proc. Could /net and /host be related to running apache or samba? I did not knowingly create these "devices" I haven't been as vigilant as I could have been for security (one of my reasons for an upcoming reinstall), so there is a possibility of the server being hijacked...? But I don't want to assume the worst on false concersns.. illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 28/04/07, Graham North wrote: >> I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of >> doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. >> The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install >> but also three additional (mount points?) >> /proc >> /net >> /host >> >> The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on >> it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount >> points? > > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 1012974 36926 895012 4% / > devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev > /dev/ad2s1d 5616214 716542 4450376 14% /home > /dev/ad0s1e 1012974 22352 909586 2% /tmp > . . . > > Mount points are merely directories where devices > are mounted as part of the filesystem. These can be > automatically mounted by a listing in /etc/fstab or manually > mounted using /sbin/mount. That they show up in df's > listing means that something is in fact mounted on it. > > Typing "mount" at a command prompt will give you a listing > of mounted devices like so: > > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad2s1d on /home (ufs, NFS exported, local, nosuid, soft-updates) > /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > . . . > > As none of those above (/proc /net /host) are part of the > standard layout (Well, /proc was on 4.x and earlier) some- > one at some time has added them. > Parv wrote: > in message <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>, > wrote Jerry McAllister thusly... > >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 11:21:20AM -0700, Graham North wrote: >> >> >>> I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in >>> anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new >>> machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were >>> created at install but also three additional (mount points?) >>> /proc >>> /net >>> /host >>> >> No problem. /proc is sort of a psuedo file system that enables >> some routines such as top to look at certain pieces of >> information. >> >> Probably /net and /host are also psuedo file systems, but I have >> never seen them before. If they are legit, they are for something >> I do not run. >> > > Could it be that /{ne,hos}t mount points are due to use of > a{manda,utomounter}? > > > - Parv > > -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 06:23:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A2F16A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF13C13C455 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 41865 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 06:23:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.27.1.5?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.227 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2007 06:23:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FgKtxP4VM1kmjmOg2cRoTEP2zzTSbHWDr2cSyhzwqqhB_i1vxQsBgSRBMYcNXfnOxQ-- Message-ID: <46343A00.9000408@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:24:00 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham North References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:23:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-04-29 02:00, Graham North wrote: > I am still hoping that somebody can tell me what /net and /host are - > inted? samba?? As mentioned previously, no part of FreeBSD (port or package included) would ever create directories outside of hier(7), i.e. /usr/local would be the place to find user-installed software. What is the contents of these directories? - -- Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGNDoAs0gLFnnAwn8RAtA8AJ9cG64SJY9hlUWqNXXL767auifDHgCfQKYP XBCdxttvlQ6CXEAsxS/lkIA= =m6xc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 07:16:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F124F16A408 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C9C13C459 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l3T7Gq4i011746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:16:52 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.45] (c-67-187-164-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.164.17]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l3T7Gp69017833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: <4634466A.4060709@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:16:58 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Taylor References: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DF2D1@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> In-Reply-To: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DF2D1@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.4.29.535 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:16:56 -0000 Murray Taylor wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of >> Garrett Cooper >> Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:28 AM >> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will >> FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? >> >> perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>>> OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there >>>> still isn't a native (Aqua) build. >>> I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) >> Yes >_>.. I mean that the latest and greatest version of OOo isn't >> available for Aqua native yet. It's going to take another >> year to port, >> as someone has claimed already. >> >> There was a big leap in terms of functionality from 1.x vs >> 2.x in OOo, >> but then again considering that the OP was asking about >> running Office >> 98 (:D..), I don't think he'd mind running the 1.x version binaries. >> >> -Garrett > > > As the original poster wants to write books .... may I suggest that he > use > a text editor and then a typesetter combination rather than any form of > WYSIWYG wordprocessor. > > IE use (insert favourite text editor here) then use the LaTeX / Tetex > port > to actually properly format the material as a book. > > Yes there is a learning curve here, but the end result is all > over a wordprocessed attempt. > > mjt Good point. I fully agree with Murray, because I've found many WYSIWYG editors to have large shortcomings when it comes to writing properly formatted documents. I still have to fight Word 2003 to not erase bullets in a larger document I maintain, at its own whim, not mine. I can't begin to imagine what Publisher 98 would be like (ew..). LaTeX works wonderfully for regularly written documents and Texinfo for technical documents or procedure manuals. Then for writing web documents, you can always invest some time in just learning VIM + colorizing the output, or maybe invest in a WYSIWYG HTML editor, and touch up little things here and there. Bluefish works wonderfully for this purpose I've discovered. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 07:19:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FB516A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6843B13C44C for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH900J7R097LV80@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:17:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JH900NVZ09624S0@pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:17:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([24.81.202.129]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH90084Z0963U80@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:17:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:17:30 -0700 From: Graham North In-reply-to: <46343A00.9000408@hier7.com> To: Chris Slothouber Message-id: <4634468A.7060009@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> <46343A00.9000408@hier7.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:19:18 -0000 I believe that they are mount points, not directories. I shut the server down last night until I learn more. G/ Chris Slothouber wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2007-04-29 02:00, Graham North wrote: > >> I am still hoping that somebody can tell me what /net and /host are - >> inted? samba?? >> > > As mentioned previously, no part of FreeBSD (port or package included) > would ever create directories outside of hier(7), i.e. /usr/local would > be the place to find user-installed software. > > What is the contents of these directories? > > - -- > Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin > BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas > PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGNDoAs0gLFnnAwn8RAtA8AJ9cG64SJY9hlUWqNXXL767auifDHgCfQKYP > XBCdxttvlQ6CXEAsxS/lkIA= > =m6xc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 07:32:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED26016A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9105C13C4B9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 11103 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 07:32:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.27.1.5?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.227 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2007 07:32:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UqTPz84VM1nxIHiCf2nGncbb15RolPCdiQEf7QpgM4sOvuhS8hqnqyAeKUn1Oew99g-- Message-ID: <463449FC.1000903@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:32:12 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham North References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> <46343A00.9000408@hier7.com> <4634468A.7060009@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <4634468A.7060009@shaw.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:32:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-04-29 03:17, Graham North wrote: > Chris Slothouber wrote: > On 2007-04-29 02:00, Graham North wrote: > >>>> I am still hoping that somebody can tell me what /net and /host are - >>>> inted? samba?? >>>> >> As mentioned previously, no part of FreeBSD (port or package included) >> would ever create directories outside of hier(7), i.e. /usr/local would >> be the place to find user-installed software. >> What is the contents of these directories? > I believe that they are mount points, not directories. I shut the > server down last night until I learn more. Hi Graham, thanks for your reply. Just for reference a file system is mounted to a directory. Before anyone can answer your question about what these could be, some more information would be very helpful, such as the contents of /net and /host, the output of `mount` and the contents of /etc/fstab. Hopefully then we can help further. Thanks! - -- Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGNEn8s0gLFnnAwn8RAiSXAJsH0FYmtxLakX4j0Q+RYbeZYYmKDgCgvrDZ /I0wpPsj7faKWhFflwhGd2g= =TKCc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 08:04:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754C216A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534FD13C469 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.110]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH900K582F1XN90@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:04:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JH900KID2EWZ5F0@pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([24.81.202.129]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH900MTK2EUDU43@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:04:04 -0700 From: Graham North In-reply-to: <463449FC.1000903@hier7.com> To: Chris Slothouber Message-id: <46345174.5050801@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> <46343A00.9000408@hier7.com> <4634468A.7060009@shaw.ca> <463449FC.1000903@hier7.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:04:15 -0000 Hi Chris: I will fire it up again tomorrow or Monday and report back. Thank you for your help. Graham/ Chris Slothouber wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2007-04-29 03:17, Graham North wrote: > >> Chris Slothouber wrote: >> On 2007-04-29 02:00, Graham North wrote: >> >> >>>>> I am still hoping that somebody can tell me what /net and /host are - >>>>> inted? samba?? >>>>> >>>>> >>> As mentioned previously, no part of FreeBSD (port or package included) >>> would ever create directories outside of hier(7), i.e. /usr/local would >>> be the place to find user-installed software. >>> What is the contents of these directories? >>> >> I believe that they are mount points, not directories. I shut the >> server down last night until I learn more. >> > > Hi Graham, thanks for your reply. > > Just for reference a file system is mounted to a directory. Before > anyone can answer your question about what these could be, some more > information would be very helpful, such as the contents of /net and > /host, the output of `mount` and the contents of /etc/fstab. > > Hopefully then we can help further. Thanks! > > - -- > Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin > BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas > PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGNEn8s0gLFnnAwn8RAiSXAJsH0FYmtxLakX4j0Q+RYbeZYYmKDgCgvrDZ > /I0wpPsj7faKWhFflwhGd2g= > =TKCc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 08:39:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F4E16A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5B413C448 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l3T8dmRW055673; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Murray Taylor" , "Garrett Cooper" , Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:40:43 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DF2D1@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:40:00 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Murray Taylor > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:28 PM > To: Garrett Cooper; perryh@pluto.rain.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices,Will FreeBSD accept > Office 98 + Publisher? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > > Garrett Cooper > > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:28 AM > > To: perryh@pluto.rain.com > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will > > FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? > > > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > >> OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there > > >> still isn't a native (Aqua) build. > > > > > > I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) > > > > Yes >_>.. I mean that the latest and greatest version of OOo isn't > > available for Aqua native yet. It's going to take another > > year to port, > > as someone has claimed already. > > > > There was a big leap in terms of functionality from 1.x vs > > 2.x in OOo, > > but then again considering that the OP was asking about > > running Office > > 98 (:D..), I don't think he'd mind running the 1.x version binaries. > > > > -Garrett > > > As the original poster wants to write books .... may I suggest that he > use > a text editor and then a typesetter combination rather than any form of > WYSIWYG wordprocessor. > > IE use (insert favourite text editor here) then use the LaTeX / Tetex > port > to actually properly format the material as a book. > > Yes there is a learning curve here, but the end result is all > over a wordprocessed attempt. > When I wrote my book Addison Wesley used Quark internally, but required me to submit my manuscript -on paper-. They then retyped it, sent me the proofs (which had enormous numbers of typos in them) I corrected and sent back. I asked them if I gave them the manuscript in Quark source files if they would take that, (because I had access to a pirated copy of Quark and figured I would import what I had written my book in) and they would not. They required a paper manuscript. Thus, use whatever you want to write your book - if your going to get it published most likely your publisher will not be using what your using. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 08:44:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B8F16A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B60413C45A for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l3T8ioQu055701; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sam Lawrance" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:45:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <77D9AF4A-AA68-4AA4-B1CB-9E8781BB77C6@brooknet.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:44:55 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Lawrance [mailto:boris@brooknet.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:59 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam > > > > Email is not an instant messaging system, no matter how much you want > it to be one. > Cell phone companies won't take pages any other way no matter how much you want them to. And as I already have to carry a cell phone, I am not going to carry a separate pager also. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 09:00:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F4416A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5488E13C469 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l3T8xrI6055754; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bart Silverstrim" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:00:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4AF11324-1013-4C53-879D-55B709E257F2@chrononomicon.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Eric Crist , Grant Peel , Christopher Hilton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:00:02 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:bsilver@chrononomicon.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:01 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Eric Crist; Grant Peel; Christopher Hilton; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam > > > > On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:bsilver@chrononomicon.com] > >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM > >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >> Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> > >>> There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their > >>> mail > >>> to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail > >>> address is > >>> in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server > >>> failure. > >>> I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started > >>> greylisting. It > >>> isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to > >>> reject > >>> it, although in your case it probably was. > >> > >> If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the auto- > >> whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most intelligent > >> greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, > >> until it is established as legitimate. > >> > > > > That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure > > that causes > > a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. > > By the > > time the pages got through the > > greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had gone > > down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. > > What? What do you mean, a failure that causes a problem which > results in paging once every 3 months? > > If your mail server tries to contact another mail server and it can't > reach it, you're saying your mail server doesn't retry for an hour? > If the monitoring system notices something down, I have to know about it within a few minutes. I cannot wait for the mailserver that sends the page out to retry sending the page to the cell carrier's mailserver in an hour. Things go down rarely. The moonitoring system is not continually sending out pages to my cell phone every day. Many times many months will pass in between the monitoring system sending my cell phone a page. If the cell phone company was running greylisting, any whitelist entry for my monitoring system would be gone by then. > Even if it does take an hour, the fact that it retried the server on > the other side doing the greylisting means it would be whitelisted > after a couple mails. But the whitelist would have expired by the next time there was a problem. > If you're doing something SO critical that > three or four mails delayed an hour, until you're establishes as a > legit user, means life or death, you definitely should be doing > something that backs up how you communicate with other sites, I'm monitoring systems at the ISP I work at. No, it is not life or death if a feed goes down for 3 hours and a bunch of people cannot download their daily freebsd-questions mailing list fix. At least, I don't think so. But they do. And as their money that buys the ISP's product puts the bread on my table, I have to do what they want. And they want instant response if there is a problem in the ISP's systems. That won't happen if the monitoring system's e-mails that get sent out when there is a problem lie around in a mail queue for an hour waiting for a greylist at the cell company to let the messages through. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 09:00:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0A616A532 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmumby@xtra.co.nz) Received: from mta01.xtra.co.nz (mta01.xtra.co.nz [210.54.141.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E7A13C44B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmumby@xtra.co.nz) Received: from orac ([222.152.18.195]) by fep02.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20070429083155.VZTX19815.fep02.xtra.co.nz@orac> for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:31:55 +1200 From: "Mark Mumby" To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:31:54 +1200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Subject: Serial Converter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:00:13 -0000 Hello, I am currently running 5.4 release and i have problems with a usb serial converter (a FDTI version). When i do a usbdev -v i get - Controller /dev/usb2: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), SiS(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: full speed, self powered, config 1, Standard USB Hub(0x3301), Atmel(0x03eb), rev 3.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered port 3 addr 3: full speed, power 44 mA, config 1, USB to Serial Converter(0x0421), Generic(0x0b39), rev 2.00 port 4 powered In usbdev there is - -- vendor part -- vendor SIIG2 0x0b39 SIIG -- known products part -- product SIIG2 US2308 0x0421 USB to Serial uftdi.c also seems to be aware of it - if (uaa->vendor == USB_VENDOR_SIIG2 && (uaa->product == USB_PRODUCT_SIIG2_US2308)) Everything seems to be there but for some reason i get the ugen driver which does not work. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 09:25:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F916A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4E313C455 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3T9P2lS062786; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:25:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 06423B854; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:25:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:25:02 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Mark Mumby Message-ID: <20070429092501.GA96215@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Mumby , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Converter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:25:04 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:31:54PM +1200, Mark Mumby wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am currently running 5.4 release and i have problems with a usb serial > converter (a FDTI version). >=20 > When i do a usbdev -v i get - > Controller /dev/usb2: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), > SiS(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 addr 2: full speed, self powered, config 1, Standard USB > Hub(0x3301), Atmel(0x03eb), rev 3.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > port 3 addr 3: full speed, power 44 mA, config 1, USB to Serial > Converter(0x0421), Generic(0x0b39), rev 2.00 > port 4 powered >=20 > In usbdev there is - > -- vendor part -- > vendor SIIG2 0x0b39 SIIG >=20 > -- known products part -- > product SIIG2 US2308 0x0421 USB to Serial >=20 > uftdi.c also seems to be aware of it - > if (uaa->vendor =3D=3D USB_VENDOR_SIIG2 && > (uaa->product =3D=3D USB_PRODUCT_SIIG2_US2308)) >=20 > Everything seems to be there but for some reason i get the ugen driver wh= ich > does not work. First, uftdi(4) needs ucom(4). Is that available? Second, it does look like a bug. But 5.4 is quite old now. You should try 6.2, or at least 5.5. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGNGRtEnfvsMMhpyURApHfAJ0XHCWg/WpLMAkjsXBNf0TwHJqGNwCfewpj V1kxnfAKQAhPA5Q8u9wyl5M= =YxW6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 09:35:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C535B16A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gorlani.net) Received: from smtp5.aruba.it (smtpd2.aruba.it [62.149.128.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D96F13C457 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gorlani.net) Received: (qmail 10527 invoked by uid 89); 29 Apr 2007 09:09:08 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 10517, pid: 10524, t: 0.1860s scanners: clamav: 0.88.4/m:40/d:1722 Received: from unknown (HELO Enigma) (gorlani@gorlani.com@87.28.15.213) by smtp5.aruba.it with SMTP; 29 Apr 2007 09:09:08 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c78a3e$0e804040$0637a8c0@Enigma> From: "freebsd" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:09:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Load balacing DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:35:51 -0000 Hi I need to setup 2 DNS server and I would like these to be visible as a single IP address. Using CARP I'm able to obtain failover capabilities, but I need load balancing also. Any ideas other than putting another server in front of my machines? The DNS ip address will be hardcoded in some hundreads of devices and I cannot use a secondary dns... Bye From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 09:51:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D0516A403 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E73213C4B9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l3T9eJLd013902; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:40:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l3T9eIu4013901; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:40:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:40:17 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Mark Mumby Message-ID: <20070429094017.GA13702@abigail.blackend.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Converter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:51:05 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:31:54PM +1200, Mark Mumby wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently running 5.4 release and i have problems with a usb serial > converter (a FDTI version). > > When i do a usbdev -v i get - > Controller /dev/usb2: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), > SiS(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 addr 2: full speed, self powered, config 1, Standard USB > Hub(0x3301), Atmel(0x03eb), rev 3.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > port 3 addr 3: full speed, power 44 mA, config 1, USB to Serial > Converter(0x0421), Generic(0x0b39), rev 2.00 > port 4 powered > > In usbdev there is - > -- vendor part -- > vendor SIIG2 0x0b39 SIIG > > -- known products part -- > product SIIG2 US2308 0x0421 USB to Serial > > uftdi.c also seems to be aware of it - > if (uaa->vendor == USB_VENDOR_SIIG2 && > (uaa->product == USB_PRODUCT_SIIG2_US2308)) > > Everything seems to be there but for some reason i get the ugen driver which > does not work. Is uftdi.ko loaded? The command: kldstat -v | uftdi should gives something. If it's not the case you'll have to load uftdi(4) by hand or via /boot/loader.conf facility. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 10:07:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D923316A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CC113C44C for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4A6DF770; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:50:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:51:42 +0200 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070429095141.GA10226@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DF2D1@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> <4634466A.4060709@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4634466A.4060709@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:07:11 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:16:58AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > LaTeX works wonderfully for regularly written documents and Texinfo for > technical documents or procedure manuals. Then for writing web > documents, you can always invest some time in just learning VIM + > colorizing the output, or maybe invest in a WYSIWYG HTML editor, and > touch up little things here and there. Bluefish works wonderfully for > this purpose I've discovered. There's still another alternative: use a Wiki like MoinMoin to write your book. You can then export the final version into a format that can be ultimately converted into PDF. For example, MoinMoin Wiki supports DocBook, which can be converted into HTML, LaTeX etc... As a bonus, with a Wiki, you can retrieve previous versions of pages for free and look at diffs you made between them, without having to learn how to use a source code control system like CVS or Subversion. With FreeBSD (or Linux, OSX ...), it's trivial to install MoinMoin with an internal web server (Apache or Lighttd). You could then use your favorite browser on the same machine or, if you prefer, on any other machine (e.g. @home, @work, ...) and could always access your (password protected) book draft. You may even have it peer-reviewed and copy-edited by your publisher's team once it's ready. It all boils down to this: what works best for you is just a matter of personal taste and work habits. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 10:15:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF7116A404 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.108.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C94013C468 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BE21C0006 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:16:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16327-12 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:16:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from [218.193.55.195] (191.20.61.59.board.xm.fj.dynamic.163data.com.cn [59.61.20.191]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2221C0005 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:16:25 +0800 (CST) From: Zhang Weiwu To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1177749142.28603.50.camel@joe.realss.com> References: <4632AF6B.3020500@tampabay.rr.com> <1177741823.28603.24.camel@joe.realss.com> <1177742342.28603.30.camel@joe.realss.com> <4632F094.4090408@u.washington.edu> <1177749142.28603.50.camel@joe.realss.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Real Softservice Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:15:24 +0800 Message-Id: <1177841724.30262.10.camel@joe.realss.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:15:40 -0000 On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 16:32 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Frankly it's so much easier on wine. If something doesn't work on wine, s/on/than/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 10:34:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E081A16A404 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmumby@xtra.co.nz) Received: from fep04.xtra.co.nz (fep04.xtra.co.nz [210.54.141.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B39613C45A for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmumby@xtra.co.nz) Received: from ZEN ([222.152.18.195]) by fep04.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20070429103414.QHMF25916.fep04.xtra.co.nz@ZEN>; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:34:14 +1200 From: "Xtramail" To: "Roland Smith" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:35:15 +1200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <20070429092501.GA96215@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serial Converter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:34:18 -0000 Roland, thanks for the reply all fixed now. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Roland Smith [mailto:rsmith@xs4all.nl] Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 9:25 p.m. To: Mark Mumby Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Converter On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:31:54PM +1200, Mark Mumby wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently running 5.4 release and i have problems with a usb serial > converter (a FDTI version). > > When i do a usbdev -v i get - > Controller /dev/usb2: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), > SiS(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 addr 2: full speed, self powered, config 1, Standard USB > Hub(0x3301), Atmel(0x03eb), rev 3.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > port 3 addr 3: full speed, power 44 mA, config 1, USB to Serial > Converter(0x0421), Generic(0x0b39), rev 2.00 > port 4 powered > > In usbdev there is - > -- vendor part -- > vendor SIIG2 0x0b39 SIIG > > -- known products part -- > product SIIG2 US2308 0x0421 USB to Serial > > uftdi.c also seems to be aware of it - > if (uaa->vendor == USB_VENDOR_SIIG2 && > (uaa->product == USB_PRODUCT_SIIG2_US2308)) > > Everything seems to be there but for some reason i get the ugen driver which > does not work. First, uftdi(4) needs ucom(4). Is that available? Second, it does look like a bug. But 5.4 is quite old now. You should try 6.2, or at least 5.5. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 10:40:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B178A16A403 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A36113C45B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 114777250-1860479 for multiple; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:40:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <90401CFA-9721-4455-9A3E-C1833C748531@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:39:54 -0400 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Eric Crist , Grant Peel , Christopher Hilton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:40:04 -0000 On Apr 29, 2007, at 5:00 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:bsilver@chrononomicon.com] >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:01 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: Eric Crist; Grant Peel; Christopher Hilton; >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam >> >> >> >> On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:bsilver@chrononomicon.com] >>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM >>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >>>> Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>>> >>>>> There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their >>>>> mail >>>>> to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail >>>>> address is >>>>> in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server >>>>> failure. >>>>> I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started >>>>> greylisting. It >>>>> isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to >>>>> reject >>>>> it, although in your case it probably was. >>>> >>>> If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the >>>> auto- >>>> whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most >>>> intelligent >>>> greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, >>>> until it is established as legitimate. >>>> >>> >>> That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure >>> that causes >>> a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. >>> By the >>> time the pages got through the >>> greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had >>> gone >>> down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. >> >> What? What do you mean, a failure that causes a problem which >> results in paging once every 3 months? >> >> If your mail server tries to contact another mail server and it can't >> reach it, you're saying your mail server doesn't retry for an hour? >> > > If the monitoring system notices something down, I have to know about > it within a few minutes. I cannot wait for the mailserver that > sends the > page out to retry sending the page to the cell carrier's mailserver > in an hour. Ted, usually I find your posts intelligent and food for thought, but I almost think you're doing this on purpose now. When you're setting it up, you would set up manually to have your own system whitelisted. I would assume that if you really don't own your own domain/mail system, you still would have a provider that would whitelist *themselves* so you could send the email from your provider to yourself. If you're using SMS, I would personally either tell my phone provider about it or send a few messages myself to have it whitelist the entry and then periodically test the system, since really you should be testing such systems periodically anyway (and make sure the listing is still working). You said yourself you use greylisting, I thought. Don't you already have a system like this in place? > Things go down rarely. The moonitoring system is not continually > sending > out pages to my cell phone every day. Many times many months will > pass > in between the monitoring system sending my cell phone a page. If the > cell phone company was running greylisting, any whitelist entry for my > monitoring system would be gone by then. We rarely lose power to the buildings, but our generator system still kicks over once a week to test. Why can't you send a page once or twice a week to make sure it's working properly? Things change, things get reconfigured or hiccup, and if this is that critical to you, what's the harm in one or two text messages a month to your phone saying "howdy?" I mean c'mon...it's so important you must be notified ASAP, but you can't afford to have it test the connection periodically is what it sounds like you're saying. >> If you're doing something SO critical that >> three or four mails delayed an hour, until you're establishes as a >> legit user, means life or death, you definitely should be doing >> something that backs up how you communicate with other sites, > > I'm monitoring systems at the ISP I work at. No, it is not life or > death > if a feed goes down for 3 hours and a bunch of people cannot download > their daily freebsd-questions mailing list fix. At least, I don't > think > so. But they do. And as their money that buys the ISP's product puts > the bread on my table, I have to do what they want. It's an interesting conundrum that people will bitch about how stupid their users are yet will turn around and give them "what they want" to the point where it encourages their bad habits and their reliance on bad practices and their ignorance. I'm not saying you're doing this, this is just a general observation. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:00:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3462216A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E662913C489 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so1197821pyh for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:00:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Dz9njkog+TxPJFuUUa3cvJj/+8PrBuguYGMlnILIiwJqz+5vsSiJqhS016DtaXUgWrwTbqDABuxlxexYzUF8z5fR6mSweaMbYImkxQbNzRQAczw3DltdOitSlz+e3tUIpv+8EQT5tHLnZtbimvLv7Q+y09QL4lDXMHcDeLWSwdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=g80rmlGcLhw66cAnr+jdziHVMT6H6c0PR83+867dwcd5dP4V+0HLqmiqCMXZFp5SCbaVlcH6VvHuijPuFG5l41/ryKw0NEXqJ4iF9t1+xTSr2R3+vGKcUklZo4nsM039+9BR1M4nPb9ZCtJiksrBI6xvkqQgM9pHO+DRZbM4fAs= Received: by 10.35.45.1 with SMTP id x1mr9307921pyj.1177851641342; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [209.240.66.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f24sm3792377pyh.2007.04.29.06.00.39; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:00:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0674B8B4-EB98-4876-AB35-51D0FD550680@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:00:37 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: Grant Peel , Christopher Hilton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bart Silverstrim Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:00:42 -0000 On Apr 29, 2007, at 4:00 AMApr 29, 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > If the monitoring system notices something down, I have to know about > it within a few minutes. I cannot wait for the mailserver that > sends the > page out to retry sending the page to the cell carrier's mailserver > in an hour. > > Things go down rarely. The moonitoring system is not continually > sending > out pages to my cell phone every day. Many times many months will > pass > in between the monitoring system sending my cell phone a page. If the > cell phone company was running greylisting, any whitelist entry for my > monitoring system would be gone by then. > >> Even if it does take an hour, the fact that it retried the server on >> the other side doing the greylisting means it would be whitelisted >> after a couple mails. > > But the whitelist would have expired by the next time there was a > problem. > >> If you're doing something SO critical that >> three or four mails delayed an hour, until you're establishes as a >> legit user, means life or death, you definitely should be doing >> something that backs up how you communicate with other sites, > > I'm monitoring systems at the ISP I work at. No, it is not life or > death > if a feed goes down for 3 hours and a bunch of people cannot download > their daily freebsd-questions mailing list fix. At least, I don't > think > so. But they do. And as their money that buys the ISP's product puts > the bread on my table, I have to do what they want. And they want > instant > response if there is a problem in the ISP's systems. That won't > happen if > the monitoring system's e-mails that get sent out when there is a > problem > lie around in a mail queue for an hour waiting for a greylist at the > cell company to let the messages through. My ISP has a FreeBSD with a GSM modem with text messaging service. They send actual text messages across the cellular network - instantly. No email required. Perhaps you folks could do that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:13:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666A116A403 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C273413C43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l3TDCgqw027072; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:12:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=permerror; spf=permerror X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk l3TDCgqw027072 Message-ID: <463499CA.2040709@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:12:42 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd References: <000301c78a3e$0e804040$0637a8c0@Enigma> In-Reply-To: <000301c78a3e$0e804040$0637a8c0@Enigma> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:12:53 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/3179/Sun Apr 29 11:28:45 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Load balacing DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:13:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 freebsd wrote: > I need to setup 2 DNS server and I would like these to be visible as a > single IP address. > Using CARP I'm able to obtain failover capabilities, but I need load > balancing also. Any ideas other than putting another server in front of > my machines? > The DNS ip address will be hardcoded in some hundreads of devices and I > cannot use a secondary dns... Given that you're running DNS which is primarily a UDP thing and not stateful, then you can stick the public IP of your DNS on a firewall gateway box running pf, and have as many servers behind it as you need to cover the load, and use the 'round-robin' feature of the rdr command in pf to distribute incoming queries over your servers. You'll also need to use NAT so the return packets end up with the correct source address on them. See: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html Note that this only gives you load balance statistically -- based on the number of packets rather than the actual load on the servers. Also, it does not provide any sort of high-availability features: if one of your back-end servers goes down, the firewall will still pump packets to it even though there's nothing there to respond. You can use CARP or wackamole to ensure that the IPs in question are always configured on a machine that can answer. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGNJnK8Mjk52CukIwRCETfAJ9YXz0GNQQxfo0tq578+cMM6try3wCfX0Ih QaCfz+Toev2LqEqamJwS0h4= =x7BA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:20:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8C216A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (casselton.net [63.165.140.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382BB13C43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by casselton.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3TDKFlB086512; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:20:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by casselton.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l3TDKFI0086511; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:20:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:20:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <200704291320.l3TDKFI0086511@casselton.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lists@lizardhill.com In-Reply-To: <000001c789b6$f7130320$0700020a@mickey> Cc: Subject: Re: Quotacheck failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:20:16 -0000 "Don O'Neil" asks on Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:02:12 -0700 > quotacheck: /home/quota.user: seek failed: Invalid argument THE FOLLOWING > FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: > /dev/twed0s1d (/home) > > However, I have run a full fsck from single user mode on this volume and it > comes up clean every time. I've removed the quota.user and had it > re-generated, but that didn't help either. The seek error is coming from quotacheck, I am guessing there may be a uid (or gid if you are doing quotas per group) that is invalid (really large or negative). I would either: find (filesytem here) -nouser -exec ls -l {} \; or recompile the quotacheck application to list the file entry that is causing the error. --Mark Tinguely From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:26:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44A16A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (casselton.net [63.165.140.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B52213C455 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by casselton.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3TDQMmB086783; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:26:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by casselton.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l3TDQMbN086782; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:26:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:26:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <200704291326.l3TDQMbN086782@casselton.net> To: bc979@lafn.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Quotas on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:26:24 -0000 I am using quotas in FreeBSD 6.2 with soft limits == hard limits, and the hard limits are being enforsed (mail/ftp etc). This is a non-root filesystem. There is one patch for quota that I supplied and was recently applied to -current that is appropriate for FreeBSD 5.x-7.x that has to do with file counts once the filesystem is completely full, that does not affect hard limits. --Mark Tinguely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:58:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D59C16A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0632a7b487@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2479C13C4AD for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0632a7b487@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 39702 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 13:31:18 -0000 Received: from simone-wap.iecc.com (208.31.42.48) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 29 Apr 2007 13:31:18 -0000 Date: 29 Apr 2007 13:31:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20070429133118.90624.qmail@simone.iecc.com> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Organization: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:58:05 -0000 >> Email is not an instant messaging system, no matter how much you want >> it to be one. > >Cell phone companies won't take pages any other way no matter how much you >want them to. This might be a good time to learn about outfits like clickatell.com that provide SMS gateway service. They charge about 10 cents a message. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 14:19:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBFA16A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A378A13C459 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id AAA25383; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:19:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:19:35 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Graham North In-Reply-To: <20070429104013.8567F16A401@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Chris Slothouber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19:51 -0000 On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:17:30 -0700 Graham North wrote: > I believe that they are mount points, not directories. I shut the > server down last night until I learn more. Mount points are directories, but whether these particular directories have been used as mountpoints or are just (empty?) leftovers from some process at some time might be illustrated by running 'ls -lartT /' or 'ls -la /net /host' to see in context when these were last modified, and whether both have around the same timestamps .. maybe a clue there? Couldn't hurt to run security/chkrootkit, though it can false positive. As Chris said: > > What is the contents of these directories? and: > Just for reference a file system is mounted to a directory. Before > anyone can answer your question about what these could be, some more > information would be very helpful, such as the contents of /net and > /host, the output of `mount` and the contents of /etc/fstab. > > Hopefully then we can help further. Thanks! > > - -- > Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 14:24:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6983A16A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philipp@corpex.de) Received: from canismajor.corpex-net.de (canismajor.corpex-net.de [62.67.202.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B8013C45B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philipp@corpex.de) Received: from p5b222add.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.34.42.221] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by canismajor.corpex-net.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HiAAS-000OOx-Gf; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:14:24 +0200 Message-ID: <4634A83D.8040908@corpex.de> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:14:21 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Philipp_Gasch=FCtz?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problems with tcpdump filter on a switch mirroring port, 6.2 RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:24:54 -0000 Hi, we have a strange problem with tcpdump on a vanilla FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 box, which we are trying to use as a traffic sniffing/IDS/whatever device. The box has 2 NICs, em0 and em1 em0 is normally configured with an inet address. em1 is connected to a port on the same switch (HP Procurve 2824), which is configured to be a mirror port of all other ports and configured like this: ifconfig em1 polling monitor promisc ie only a network sniffing device. while issuing a "ping 81.91.161.70", "tcpdump -nli *em0* host 81.91.161.70" works like expected (traffic is sent to the default gw via em0, switch copies the data to em1): 15:54:05.790877 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id 35620, seq 0, length 64 15:54:05.801690 IP 81.91.161.70 > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: ICMP echo reply, id 35620, seq 0, length 64 However, issuing the same ping, but tcpdump'ing on em1 only results in # tcpdump -nli em1 host 81.91.161.70 15:56:00.512614 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id 40484, seq 0, length 64 15:56:01.548077 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id 40484, seq 1, length 64 ie. no replies are captured by tcpdump Initially I thought this was somehow connected to the monitoring port on the switch not working as expected. However: # tcpdump -nli em1 | grep 81.91.161.70 15:57:48.447530 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id 41508, seq 0, length 64 15:57:48.458767 IP 81.91.161.70 > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: ICMP echo reply, id 41508, seq 0, length 64 ie. tcpdump without a filter captures the packets just fine. I have tried to disable monitor and polling and also gave em1 an inet address, without success. The box itself idles at 99% when running tcpdump. I have ammended the following sysctls (also without success): net.bpf.bufsize: 4194304 net.bpf.maxbufsize: 8388608 Has anyone seen something like this before? Thanks Philipp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 14:46:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D70516A406 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from pizzabox.cyberleo.net (alpha.cyberleo.net [198.145.45.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE89513C457 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: (qmail 52195 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 14:46:12 -0000 Received: from adsl-75-3-80-6.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net (HELO ?172.16.44.14?) (cyberleo@cyberleo.net@75.3.80.6) by alpha.cyberleo.net with ESMTPA; 29 Apr 2007 14:46:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4634AFAF.3000001@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:45:44 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham North References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:46:15 -0000 Graham North wrote: > /net > /host /net and /host are populated by the NFS automounter daemon present in freebsd 4.x. My (ancient) 4.11 dev server has the same, enabled by an option in sysinstall. Accessing hosts and shares within these directories will, in theory, trigger the automounter daemon to mount the requested share, and link to it. cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ ps auxwww |grep 111 root 111 0.0 0.3 1160 360 ?? Is 14Apr07 0:01.25 amd -p -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ mount -t nfs pid111@uzuri:/net on /net (nfs) pid111@uzuri:/host on /host (nfs) cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ showmount -e uzuri Exports list on uzuri: /usr/www 192.168.0.0 cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ ls -la /host/uzuri/usr total 8 dr-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:42 . dr-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:42 .. drwxr-xr-x 43 cyberleo wheel 1024 Oct 24 2006 www After accessing a share: cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ ls -la /host total 4 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:42 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:41 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 26 Apr 29 15:41 192.168.0.6 -> /.amd_mnt/192.168.0.6/host lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 20 Apr 29 15:42 uzuri -> /.amd_mnt/uzuri/host cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ mount -t nfs pid111@uzuri:/net on /net (nfs) pid111@uzuri:/host on /host (nfs) 192.168.0.6:/usr/www on /.amd_mnt/192.168.0.6/host/usr/www (nfs, nodev, nosuid) uzuri:/usr/www on /.amd_mnt/uzuri/host/usr/www (nfs, nodev, nosuid) Hope this helps! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 15:19:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA74D16A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anujhere@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7003F13C45E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anujhere@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so934958ugh for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:19:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=FxMxmUzW9obD4nHt9SE4QIVV+zVSv080yOin8y9ixR5W4khVOj1uuPJHpZl7G16qZ41C1dAefeSNerAvhTaxJZ2Z24zK3MYWe9VTHFfZWz5sATVS84fMxahqwK3qcx6wfIQ0zV4NQ3ECEd05CIDw2bXh6/9zL4u6x9frZE/ME04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=Zm8622uk/xjeERn5TnMmA0A8WjQ86f9TKmD7hcnsaIlDlnREG/r8Ftdzs9h38GrRhzHlcsMY7GabMeyiPFNqqrhr2hhBGfUwYL6ILAka5iHV0jSIyLjB6LOpQYy2Ym8PuhwZKpCxC0Q47X82YIewVsZuyuyghdbF18CkUAdYPy4= Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr4653398ugi.1177858293420; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?59.94.136.77? ( [59.94.136.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 13sm3838076ugb.2007.04.29.07.51.30; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: anujgunj anuj singh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-PWTSuicHsiaLN/J5ak2U" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:16:56 +0530 Message-Id: <1177814816.5974.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-7.fc6) Subject: freebsd installation server (nfs/ftp/http) local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:19:47 -0000 --=-PWTSuicHsiaLN/J5ak2U Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiee, I need to create a nfs/ftp/http installation server threw which I can install FreeBSD on other local machines. I have ISO images of FreeBSD6.2.=20 How to create any or all nfs/ftp/http installation server. I went threw man pages it shows me CDROM sharing network installation. I want to install with ISO images on hard-disk. Thanks and regards anugunj anuj --=-PWTSuicHsiaLN/J5ak2U Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGNAcgNRX6jCtlI2gRAmGOAKCQxxI2FsvR8zBJ9KQZO4ULKurE1ACghRF9 Alxot2pOWQKy5mTzFrfXtyo= =1EQW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-PWTSuicHsiaLN/J5ak2U-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 16:58:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7260616A407 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5E13C48A for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so942029ugh for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YfbaeU/cV96iSoaI2kKiVo9uBN41WiGGyVfNR+oozKi8ouNVWqTJ8o3FdJVH4ls1ZJEYh0Wdzz6WuDWmv7DQscNlK9T9PyDAosdWFFb0Hj2i3z2lEKsjkCyc6olYhmrscagbdRGZ/vYVRRApGDVjJ/7p0FcFxVYmeJi5VsgpN8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oqWxGszwZqw1bp+IRAMGoAztklEPqikcik0sWYC2kX2u4h6zhvQV3rXQTDgJBOOmnw+/L7LnsPTlyLE6ZH7WOIiNliDqoHdUV70OKRBVj2/AxwkJJcOkQqf9oAFgJH56lyA3YPYgq99AZPG7qfOnay5J/tgUc35TweYwFLW1Ias= Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr4727910ugh.1177865917534; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.57.7 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72cf361e0704290958l2ac97d8anef10eaf1937a8253@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:58:37 +0100 From: "Martin Hepworth" To: "questions FreeBSD" In-Reply-To: <20070427194405.GA13184@eclypse.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070427194405.GA13184@eclypse.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Suggestions for an antispam. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:58:42 -0000 spamassassin - ask on the spamassassin users email list for howto's etc. -- Martin On 4/27/07, FreeBSD User Giacomo wrote: > > Hi, > I would want a suggestion for an antispam for my email. > I use getmail-procmail-mutt in order to receive the mail. > Thanks. > -- > Isaia Luciano > FreeBSD user > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 17:48:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C79116A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5CB13C44B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s1so1034876nze for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:48:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Ugs4zOV8Mom7Gfh1haem61jTZqqFw0De29y86caQwMiF+rBnmrFAu2uOybEwsLVifxTL0fhIfTfeW1Vct0ilZW6ulpbytdUukpfooPX0IX01gLNQBQiavmfTadtI9zNABWDUuHmK8yIncCOeAGYGU0YMywPDVrcpDfjwSOVXxrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ccM/wENn+HuB5gyeth+rpWrvg0pKO2KtXcpoSkVkS0hTYt6js5+a8rUjBL94ZGH9GMMtHa8iILBbGsNE1uE2kNhbk+RBplHHlLoQdona2csA3qbJ0RvTszLP60Aea5Zt2haPepd/60fiTE5MuWLcw4LOb31JU4X5ho4KiTn5wZQ= Received: by 10.115.55.1 with SMTP id h1mr1715760wak.1177867186328; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.3 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:19:46 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: scsi raid geometry high-point rocketraid 1640 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:48:37 -0000 Hi, I have a raidcontroller high-point 1640 with 4 disks of 400 GB in a raid 5 array given me 1200 GB. The bios utility of the controller zero build the array with 64 kb FDISK says that the geometry is 145923/255/63 and it is incorrect. Then it says that for scsi it is the translation mode the raid controller is using. How do I find this? If I continue with the defaults I only get 1144654 MB like missing 100 GB. --=20 Klaus F. =D8stergaard, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 17:51:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8185716A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9CA13C484 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH900DEGTJU9040@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JH90083LTJTISN0@pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([24.81.202.129]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JH9006XCTJSW330@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:50:15 -0700 From: Graham North In-reply-to: <4634AFAF.3000001@cyberleo.net> To: CyberLeo Kitsana Message-id: <4634DAD7.4010800@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <4634AFAF.3000001@cyberleo.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:51:09 -0000 Hi CyberLeo: Thank you for such a full response! - now as to my understanding..? Does this mean that my Samba is likely to trigger this automount if I am sharing files with my windows box(es)? I will fire the machine back up and browse some documentation later tonight or tomorrow to see if I can understand better and try to come back with more refined questions. I will also run a couple of your commands below and send in output as one of the other writers requested. Thank you (and everyone) again. In the meantime - every send to this mailing list generates a delivery failure notice. It seems that my messagages are going out but each time this notice comes back to me: Have you seen it before? (framed in asterisks below) ********************** Hi. This is the deliver program at eyou.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. kugua065315@163.com 550 MI:SPF mx20,wKjR5bBbbQmyUTRGlc6+Pw==.1157S2 1177833906 http://mail.163.com/help/help_spam_16.htm --- Attachment is a copy of the message. ******************** CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > Graham North wrote: > >> /net >> /host >> > > /net and /host are populated by the NFS automounter daemon present in > freebsd 4.x. My (ancient) 4.11 dev server has the same, enabled by an > option in sysinstall. > > Accessing hosts and shares within these directories will, in theory, > trigger the automounter daemon to mount the requested share, and link to it. > > cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ ps auxwww |grep 111 > root 111 0.0 0.3 1160 360 ?? Is 14Apr07 0:01.25 amd -p > -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map > > cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ mount -t nfs > pid111@uzuri:/net on /net (nfs) > pid111@uzuri:/host on /host (nfs) > > cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ showmount -e uzuri > Exports list on uzuri: > /usr/www 192.168.0.0 > > cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ ls -la /host/uzuri/usr > total 8 > dr-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:42 . > dr-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:42 .. > drwxr-xr-x 43 cyberleo wheel 1024 Oct 24 2006 www > > After accessing a share: > > cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ ls -la /host > total 4 > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:42 . > drwxr-xr-x 22 root wheel 512 Apr 29 15:41 .. > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 26 Apr 29 15:41 192.168.0.6 -> > /.amd_mnt/192.168.0.6/host > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 20 Apr 29 15:42 uzuri -> /.amd_mnt/uzuri/host > > cyberleo@uzuri:~ $ mount -t nfs > pid111@uzuri:/net on /net (nfs) > pid111@uzuri:/host on /host (nfs) > 192.168.0.6:/usr/www on /.amd_mnt/192.168.0.6/host/usr/www (nfs, nodev, > nosuid) > uzuri:/usr/www on /.amd_mnt/uzuri/host/usr/www (nfs, nodev, nosuid) > > > Hope this helps! > > -- > Fuzzy love, > -CyberLeo > Technical Administrator > CyberLeo.Net Webhosting > http://www.CyberLeo.Net > > > Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ > > > -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 17:58:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2D116A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE57D13C44B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 114816920-1860479 for multiple; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:59:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <835A09E2-14A2-4FB4-8B68-0B74730CFBA9@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:58:42 -0400 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Sam Lawrance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:58:52 -0000 On Apr 29, 2007, at 4:45 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sam Lawrance [mailto:boris@brooknet.com.au] >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:59 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam >> >> >> >> Email is not an instant messaging system, no matter how much you want >> it to be one. >> > > Cell phone companies won't take pages any other way no matter how > much you > want them to. And as I already have to carry a cell phone, I am > not going > to carry a separate pager also. Email only, eh? I used to send messages to my boss via webform...I suppose that would imply that it's possible to have a message sent by some scripts to a website, unless there's captchas or something like that to defeat that method. But like I said...most people would already have whitelisted vitally important domains, or you could send periodic "keepalives" to test the system. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 18:58:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7E316A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from pizzabox.cyberleo.net (alpha.cyberleo.net [198.145.45.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C0213C43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: (qmail 58016 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 18:58:21 -0000 Received: from adsl-75-3-80-6.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net (HELO ?172.16.44.14?) (cyberleo@cyberleo.net@75.3.80.6) by alpha.cyberleo.net with ESMTPA; 29 Apr 2007 18:58:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4634EAC7.4040400@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:57:52 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham North References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <4634AFAF.3000001@cyberleo.net> <4634DAD7.4010800@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <4634DAD7.4010800@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:58:24 -0000 Graham North wrote: > Hi CyberLeo: > > Thank you for such a full response! - now as to my understanding..? > Does this mean that my Samba is likely to trigger this automount if I am > sharing files with my windows box(es)? If one or more of your samba shares include directories within /net or /host, then browsing those samba shares may cause the AMD to mount filesystems. I'm not fully certain about this, though, as nothing actually appears in /net or /host on my machine unless I access it by name. Either way, those directories have nothing to do with samba, and only deal with NFS. If they are not touched, they're mostly harmless--as harmless as any daemon that can automatically mount exported NFS shares from other machines on behalf of a non-root user... > > > In the meantime - every send to this mailing list generates a delivery > failure notice. It seems that my messagages are going out but each time > this notice comes back to me: Have you seen it before? (framed in > asterisks below) > > > ********************** > Hi. This is the deliver program at eyou.com. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > kugua065315@163.com > 550 MI:SPF mx20,wKjR5bBbbQmyUTRGlc6+Pw==.1157S2 1177833906 > http://mail.163.com/help/help_spam_16.htm > --- Attachment is a copy of the message. > > ******************** I receive these notifications as well. In my case, it's because I set up the Sender Policy Framework (http://www.openspf.org/) on my domain, and specified that only certain IP addresses are allowed to send mail as my domain. Having a peek at DNS, it appears your ISP has done the same. However, the FreeBSD list server rebroadcasts my mail, from me, but from an IP address that I haven't authorized. This bounce is simply telling you that the message the FreeBSD list server sent to one subscriber of the list was rejected as spam because it didn't come from an IP address that your SPF record says that your email address should be able to send from. There's likely little that can be done by an end-user about this, unfortunately. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 19:08:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9107E16A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BD813C455 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-109-158-80.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.158.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l3TJ802Y030052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) In-Reply-To: <200704291326.l3TDQMbN086782@casselton.net> References: <200704291326.l3TDQMbN086782@casselton.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8EE3658D-E6B5-4E57-8962-A4970C9E6F29@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:07:56 -0700 To: Mark Tinguely X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/3179/Sun Apr 29 03:28:45 2007 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quotas on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:08:07 -0000 On Apr 29, 2007, at 06:26, Mark Tinguely wrote: > I am using quotas in FreeBSD 6.2 with soft limits == hard limits, > and the hard limits are being enforsed (mail/ftp etc). This is a > non-root > filesystem. > > There is one patch for quota that I supplied and was recently applied > to -current that is appropriate for FreeBSD 5.x-7.x that has to do > with > file counts once the filesystem is completely full, that does not > affect > hard limits. I have narrowed the problem down to two items: There is a reboot called for in the handbook during the quota setup that I probably didn't do. Also, I was testing by having root copy data owned by the user with the quota. While that changed the quota used, it may not have triggered the quota check. In either case, after rebooting today and having the user do the copy, the hard quota is now enforced properly. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 19:10:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6577316A406 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philipp@corpex.de) Received: from canismajor.corpex-net.de (canismajor.corpex-net.de [62.67.202.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2906113C465 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philipp@corpex.de) Received: from p5b223c4c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.34.60.76] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by canismajor.corpex-net.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HiEnC-000M3m-8d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:10:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4634EDAE.4090208@corpex.de> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:10:38 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Philipp_Gasch=FCtz?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4634A83D.8040908@corpex.de> In-Reply-To: <4634A83D.8040908@corpex.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problems with tcpdump filter on a switch mirroring port, 6.2 RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:10:43 -0000 Hi, > However, issuing the same ping, but tcpdump'ing on em1 only results in > > # tcpdump -nli em1 host 81.91.161.70 > 15:56:00.512614 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id > 40484, seq 0, length 64 > 15:56:01.548077 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id > 40484, seq 1, length 64 > > ie. no replies are captured by tcpdump > > Initially I thought this was somehow connected to the monitoring port on > the switch not working as expected. However: > > # tcpdump -nli em1 | grep 81.91.161.70 > 15:57:48.447530 IP XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > 81.91.161.70: ICMP echo request, id > 41508, seq 0, length 64 > 15:57:48.458767 IP 81.91.161.70 > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: ICMP echo reply, id > 41508, seq 0, length 64 > > ie. tcpdump without a filter captures the packets just fine. took another while, now replying to myself... The packets arrived encapsulated in VLANs, which you need to tell tcpdump in order to shift the offsets by 4 bytes. Using tcpdump -nli em1 vlan and host 81.91.161.70 all works just fine. Sorry for the trouble! Best Philipp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 19:37:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1C116A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@rrv.ru) Received: from mail.edmc.ru (mail.edmc.ru [213.33.142.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25D313C489 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@rrv.ru) Received: from mail.edmc.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edmc.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4704E603D; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:37:21 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:37:16 +0400 From: Reshmakov Roman X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.06) Professional Organization: RRV X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <58246490.20070429233716@rrv.ru> To: anujgunj anuj singh In-Reply-To: <1177814816.5974.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1177814816.5974.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Sun Apr 29 23:37:21 2007 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation server (nfs/ftp/http) local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Reshmakov Roman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:37:24 -0000 =0D=0A> Hiee, > I need to create a nfs/ftp/http installation server threw which I can > install FreeBSD on other local machines. I have ISO images of > FreeBSD6.2.=20 > How to create any or all nfs/ftp/http installation server. I went threw > man pages it shows me CDROM sharing network installation. I want to > install with ISO images on hard-disk. > Thanks and regards > anugunj anuj Use dump/restore and Fix-it from installation CD-ROM. I use this method and install new server over 20-30 min. --=20 =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, Reshmakov mailto:ml@rrv.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 20:06:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680BF16A401 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete_sw@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C4A13C43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete_sw@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.8.20]) by bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:38 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:37 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 80.175.105.1 by BAY117-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:54:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [80.175.105.1] X-Originating-Email: [pete_sw@hotmail.com] X-Sender: pete_sw@hotmail.com From: "Pete Jones" To: "FreeBSD-questions" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:54:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2007 19:54:37.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[37D693E0:01C78A98] Subject: Bridging with tap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:06:38 -0000 Does anyone know anything about ethernet bridging to a tap interface in Freebsd 6.2. I have compiled the bridge option and the tap device into the kernel, but the tap device has not appeared. I have tried this on a virtual machine and a separate box with the same results, yet it works with Freebsd 6.1. I used the same configuration in sysctl.conf for both 6.1 and 6.2. Has anyone had the same problem, or any other problems with tap not working? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 20:39:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF3616A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B3213C45B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2007 16:39:43 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id NGA17475; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2007 16:39:41 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:39:42 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: testing for directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:39:44 -0000 In C code, is there a quick and dirty way to tell if a path points to a directory? Or do I have to open the parent directory and check the entry for that name? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 20:58:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A678416A404 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4002413C45D for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3TKwmpx080547; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:58:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 29530B854; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:58:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:58:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20070429205848.GA15950@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: testing for directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:58:50 -0000 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 04:39:42PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > In C code, is there a quick and dirty way to tell if a path > points to a directory? Or do I have to open the parent directory and > check the entry for that name? Try opening the path in question for writing with open(2). If it returns -1, and errno is EISDIR, it is a directory. This will be inconclusive on a read-only filesystem, or if the limit of open file handles is reached, or for any other reason that can make open(2) fail. 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( [59.94.131.0]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u6sm5492745uge.2007.04.29.14.02.36; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:02:38 -0700 (PDT) From: anujgunj anuj singh To: Reshmakov Roman In-Reply-To: <58246490.20070429233716@rrv.ru> References: <1177814816.5974.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58246490.20070429233716@rrv.ru> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ADVPXTZOrsBk5Bj4AWH6" Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:31:40 +0530 Message-Id: <1177837300.4401.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-7.fc6) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation server (nfs/ftp/http) local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:02:53 -0000 --=-ADVPXTZOrsBk5Bj4AWH6 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiee, I have ISO images on network pc, I want to perform a network installation using nfs OR ftp OR http. Plus what is the best way of installation (package selection) to not to switch cd's between 2 cd's. regards anugunj anuj=20 On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 23:37 +0400, Reshmakov Roman wrote: > > Hiee, > > I need to create a nfs/ftp/http installation server threw which I can > > install FreeBSD on other local machines. I have ISO images of > > FreeBSD6.2.=20 > > How to create any or all nfs/ftp/http installation server. I went threw > > man pages it shows me CDROM sharing network installation. I want to > > install with ISO images on hard-disk. > > Thanks and regards > > anugunj anuj >=20 > Use dump/restore and Fix-it from installation CD-ROM. I use this > method and install new server over 20-30 min. >=20 >=20 --=-ADVPXTZOrsBk5Bj4AWH6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGNF70NRX6jCtlI2gRAvMnAKCggpq+KTNHdph4xx+t3znS/ZVyOgCfc+WU ZFcUlORCbpl47Qm2KmoIdYM= =Ow86 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ADVPXTZOrsBk5Bj4AWH6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 21:10:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E5C16A409 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08E113C458 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3TL7WbR014076; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:07:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3TL7VgN014075; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:07:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:07:31 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Graham North Message-ID: <20070429210731.GA14056@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <463390A0.20508@shaw.ca> <20070429010026.GB9913@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070429021759.GA2862@holestein.holy.cow> <4634348C.3000104@shaw.ca> <46343A00.9000408@hier7.com> <4634468A.7060009@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4634468A.7060009@shaw.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Chris Slothouber , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: normal mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:10:17 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:17:30AM -0700, Graham North wrote: > I believe that they are mount points, not directories. I shut the > server down last night until I learn more. > G/ Again, mount points are directories. There is no dofference unless something is attached to the directory and treated as a mounted device. they probably have nothing to do with an automounter either, though that is possible to set up. `k:wq Anyway, none of these would be related to Apache and I don't thing Samba but I haven't really used Samba, just seen systems with it running - and didn't look closely. ////jerry > > > Chris Slothouber wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On 2007-04-29 02:00, Graham North wrote: > > > >>I am still hoping that somebody can tell me what /net and /host are - > >>inted? samba?? > >> > > > >As mentioned previously, no part of FreeBSD (port or package included) > >would ever create directories outside of hier(7), i.e. /usr/local would > >be the place to find user-installed software. > > > >What is the contents of these directories? > > > >- -- > >Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin > >BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas > >PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > >iD8DBQFGNDoAs0gLFnnAwn8RAtA8AJ9cG64SJY9hlUWqNXXL767auifDHgCfQKYP > >XBCdxttvlQ6CXEAsxS/lkIA= > >=m6xc > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > -- > > Graham North > Vancouver BC > Canada > > www.soleado.ca > > Kindness is infectous, try it. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 21:14:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1516A406 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419ED13C45B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=43595 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HiGjF-0001O8-UV; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:14:45 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:52580 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HiGjE-0004GJ-3S; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:14:44 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: Gary Kline Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:13:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20070428195720.GA34336@thought.org> <200704290032.37933.danny@ricin.com> <20070429015503.GA92606@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070429015503.GA92606@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704292313.52571.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:14:47 -0000 On Sunday 29 April 2007 03:55:04 you wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > > On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote: > > > I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak > > > playing with various window managers (aka "desktops"). Stuck. > > > To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land: > > > > > > A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox) > > > I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several > > > tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows > > > video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer > > > backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in > > > real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and > > > trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up. > > > > > > I've reached the "File Association" -> "Audio" and to > > > "x-pn-realplay" {or something like that}, then I'm wedged. > > > Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm, > > > .ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay???? > > > > > > thanks for any help! > > > > > > > > > gary > > > > First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must > > have the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a > > bitch. But it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in > > konqueror's config and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types > > with. And for embedding (the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or > > whatsitcalled as the first or only. > > Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab. But then what? > Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror?? In the list on the left? I bet it's also in some file, but that's what I do if I want to change default viewer for certain mime types. The "search for file pattern" is useful. Agreed, it helps if you know what to look for. Seems to me that googling for 'realplayer mimetypes' or something would be a start. Sorry that I can't easily present you with a complete list. > > Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil, > > vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. > > If you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a > > oddly mime-ified stream that wont play. > > I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server. Maybe I'll > just scp it over and see. My first guess would be that that's for your unix account's email. KDE settings and resource files are under ~/.kde/shared > > There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the > > plugin that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in > > the webpage but at least it does support moving back and forth in the > > stream. To make this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an > > appropriate libmap.conf. > > Well getting the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the > linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter! > Do you have one to send? Or anyone else on-list? I have this for Real plugin: ####################################################### # Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so] libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.5 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so libm.so.6 libm.so.4 libgcc_s.so.1 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so > > Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the > > earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because > > it can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if > > something with Real doesn't work I can always try to "Open with.." > > realplayer instead. > > > :-) > > I do the open-with and it starts to work/tries to, then hangs. > I'd just like to be able to watch the BBC/PBS stuff and listen to > Windose or Real streams without too much hassle! The only Realvideo stream I regularly watch is DemocracyNow. It's perfectly possible that their setup is weird or even that their "streaming solution" tries to not serve non-official clients, such as mplayer. It's hard to tell. I'd say that if it doesnt play in realplayer it wont play in mplayer either. Dan > > > HTH, > > So far, so good, thankee! > > gary > > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 21:53:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8673D16A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6671E13C459 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 29546 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 21:52:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2007 21:52:06 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3TLrK1Z018780 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:53:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3TLrJhO018779 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:53:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:53:19 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20070429215319.GA18753@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: CLI filesystem format tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:53:22 -0000 Is there a simple command line tool in FreeBSD for creating a filesystem on an already extant slice? I'm working on a system with three main slices -- ad0s1, ad0s2, and ad0s3. The ad0s2 slice is further split up into the default parts of a FreeBSD install. The ad0s1 slice is in use by another OS. The ad0s3 slice has nothing of value on it, and I want to make it a FreeBSD-native filesystem then mount it at /usr/home. I've been hoping to find something akin to the Linux tool mkfs for this purpose, but so far have come up empty. Isn't there something that works similarly to that? Example: command /dev/ad0s3 fstype -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 22:16:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A15016A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673213C43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813DA1A4DAD for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E474E513DD; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:16:39 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20070429221638.GA33593@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070429215319.GA18753@demeter.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070429215319.GA18753@demeter.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: CLI filesystem format tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:16:42 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 03:53:19PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > Is there a simple command line tool in FreeBSD for creating a filesystem > on an already extant slice? > > I'm working on a system with three main slices -- ad0s1, ad0s2, and > ad0s3. The ad0s2 slice is further split up into the default parts of a > FreeBSD install. The ad0s1 slice is in use by another OS. The ad0s3 > slice has nothing of value on it, and I want to make it a FreeBSD-native > filesystem then mount it at /usr/home. > > I've been hoping to find something akin to the Linux tool mkfs for this > purpose, but so far have come up empty. Isn't there something that > works similarly to that? Example: > > command /dev/ad0s3 fstype newfs Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 22:25:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1A816A401; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from mailgate04.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (mailgate04.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB6813C45B; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (smtp09.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.239]) by mailgate04.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3TLk9IF027726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:10 -0500 Received: from smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9C+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id l3TLk9to008321; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from a140080.n1.vanderbilt.edu (A140080.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.140.80]) by smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9.3B+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id l3TLk8aV008317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Hinton Organization: ISIS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20070429205848.GA15950@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070429205848.GA15950@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200704291646.07563.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2007-04-29_02:2007-04-27, 2007-04-29, 2007-04-29 signatures=0 X-PPS: No, score=0 Cc: Roland Smith , Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: testing for directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:25:14 -0000 --nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 29 April 2007 15:58:48 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 04:39:42PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > In C code, is there a quick and dirty way to tell if a path > > points to a directory? Or do I have to open the parent directory and > > check the entry for that name? Just open() the path, then pass the fd to getdirentries(), if it returns -1= ,=20 and errno =3D EINVAL, it's not a directory. (man getdirentries for more in= fo) hth... don > > Try opening the path in question for writing with open(2). If it returns > -1, and errno is EISDIR, it is a directory. > > This will be inconclusive on a read-only filesystem, or if the limit of > open file handles is reached, or for any other reason that can make > open(2) fail. > > Roland =2D-=20 Don Hinton or Institute for Software Integrated Systems (ISIS), Vanderbilt University tel: 615.480.5667 or 615.870.9728 --nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGNRIf0U0xbM5cLs0RAnQBAKC5LGPgUUQ1o6XL1ByIMQ1IsvN0PACfUBot ioS01EMZ8h4dQEtSWmj1Ihc= =B60B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 22:25:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1A816A401; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from mailgate04.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (mailgate04.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB6813C45B; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (smtp09.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.239]) by mailgate04.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3TLk9IF027726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:10 -0500 Received: from smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9C+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id l3TLk9to008321; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from a140080.n1.vanderbilt.edu (A140080.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.140.80]) by smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9.3B+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id l3TLk8aV008317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Hinton Organization: ISIS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:46:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20070429205848.GA15950@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070429205848.GA15950@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200704291646.07563.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2007-04-29_02:2007-04-27, 2007-04-29, 2007-04-29 signatures=0 X-PPS: No, score=0 Cc: Roland Smith , Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: testing for directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:25:14 -0000 --nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 29 April 2007 15:58:48 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 04:39:42PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > In C code, is there a quick and dirty way to tell if a path > > points to a directory? Or do I have to open the parent directory and > > check the entry for that name? Just open() the path, then pass the fd to getdirentries(), if it returns -1= ,=20 and errno =3D EINVAL, it's not a directory. (man getdirentries for more in= fo) hth... don > > Try opening the path in question for writing with open(2). If it returns > -1, and errno is EISDIR, it is a directory. > > This will be inconclusive on a read-only filesystem, or if the limit of > open file handles is reached, or for any other reason that can make > open(2) fail. > > Roland =2D-=20 Don Hinton or Institute for Software Integrated Systems (ISIS), Vanderbilt University tel: 615.480.5667 or 615.870.9728 --nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGNRIf0U0xbM5cLs0RAnQBAKC5LGPgUUQ1o6XL1ByIMQ1IsvN0PACfUBot ioS01EMZ8h4dQEtSWmj1Ihc= =B60B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart21813582.2lYLT75PCR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 22:40:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C4B16A400 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6956313C448 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70066219864; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:40:14 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: bx0P+BqhChPCSiTtbxJ29rIyLNeZuCCckRW+PIf3l2qx 1177886414 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00D12A8A0; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:40:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <17681BA2-A58C-4808-A0EB-09339E67504E@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:40:10 -0500 To: Robert Huff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: testing for directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:40:14 -0000 On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > In C code, is there a quick and dirty way to tell if a path > points to a directory? man 2 stat Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 23:17:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747B916A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (mail.freeode.co.uk [87.127.24.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0794C13C459 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from lexx.freeode.co.uk (lexx.freeode.co.uk [10.10.10.2]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3TN34tO001430 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:03:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:03:04 +0100 Message-ID: <758a33l6uiii6toh3j4u3akn5cud2f477k@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nVidia port build failure in ldconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd001@freeode.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:17:50 -0000 While trying to build /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631 from a freshly csup'd ports tree, it stopped with the following error: ===> Installing for linux-expat-1.95.8 ===> linux-expat-1.95.8 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if textproc/linux-expat already installed cd /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat/work && /usr/bin/find * -type d -exec /bin/mkdir -p "/compat/linux/{}" \; cd /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat/work && /usr/bin/find * ! -type d | /usr/bin/cpio -pm -R root:wheel /compat/linux 299 blocks ===> Running ldconfig /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux ELF binary type "3" not known. /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/linux-xorg-libs. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631. Should I simply csup and keep trying? Report a bug somewhere? Or is there anything else I can do? FreeBSD-6.2 Release. Generic kernel. Please advise if a different list would be more appropriate. -- Thanks, John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 23:42:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ACB16A403 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E622513C448 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal (svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal [10.0.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l3TNghYJ040618; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:42:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 1, 4, 441) id ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:42:43 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:42:42 +1000 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DF2D5@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? Thread-Index: AceKOfmIM7NPzmHQTW6sq0J4WbT+RgAfXOhg From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Garrett Cooper" , Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:42:47 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]=20 > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 6:41 PM > To: Murray Taylor; Garrett Cooper; perryh@pluto.rain.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices,Will=20 > FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of=20 > Murray Taylor > > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:28 PM > > To: Garrett Cooper; perryh@pluto.rain.com > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices,Will=20 > FreeBSD accept > > Office 98 + Publisher? > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > > > Garrett Cooper > > > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:28 AM > > > To: perryh@pluto.rain.com > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will > > > FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? > > > > > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > >> OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there > > > >> still isn't a native (Aqua) build. > > > > > > > > I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) > > > > > > Yes >_>.. I mean that the latest and greatest version of OOo isn't > > > available for Aqua native yet. It's going to take another > > > year to port, > > > as someone has claimed already. > > > > > > There was a big leap in terms of functionality from 1.x vs > > > 2.x in OOo, > > > but then again considering that the OP was asking about > > > running Office > > > 98 (:D..), I don't think he'd mind running the 1.x=20 > version binaries. > > > > > > -Garrett > > > > > > As the original poster wants to write books .... may I=20 > suggest that he > > use > > a text editor and then a typesetter combination rather than=20 > any form of > > WYSIWYG wordprocessor. > > > > IE use (insert favourite text editor here) then use the=20 > LaTeX / Tetex > > port > > to actually properly format the material as a book. > > > > Yes there is a learning curve here, but the end result is all > > over a wordprocessed attempt. > > >=20 > When I wrote my book Addison Wesley used Quark internally,=20 > but required > me to submit my manuscript -on paper-. They then retyped it, sent me > the proofs (which had enormous numbers of typos in them) I=20 > corrected and > sent back. >=20 > I asked them if I gave them the manuscript in Quark source=20 > files if they > would take that, (because I had access to a pirated copy of Quark and > figured > I would import what I had written my book in) and they would=20 > not. They > required a paper manuscript. >=20 > Thus, use whatever you want to write your book - if your=20 > going to get it > published most likely your publisher will not be using what=20 > your using. >=20 > Ted >=20 I suppose the only true response to this situation is to note ( with / without interest ) that Luddites(*) still exist. (*) Ludd*ite Pronunciation: 'l&-"dIt Function: noun Etymology: perhaps from Ned Ludd, 18th century Leicestershire=20 =20 workman who destroyed a knitting frame =20 : one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying=20 =20 laborsaving machinery as a protest;=20 broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change=20 mjt --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material.=20 E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses by Bytecraft ### From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 29 22:29:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAD616A402 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonymock@yahoo.com) Received: from web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 081FA13C480 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonymock@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 54214 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2007 22:02:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KQ+xpJiFa/E3A0gt2XLrZVOMEY4lZM6TRkMN1wxxUFiVv1sbZKjalDQNSS14rh2xXCo9OYmiYqNrGsqfdi7aLSDh3fhkh0EFvLsNppTRYMSq4fIc08WunO0XLIwr/mIPkABAvmHvIxQgo/lDSlaofHpGjmG+mGsJC3euag3cYkA=; X-YMail-OSG: ZiTQlJAVM1mnZEYNWzRSDjYcwU1hcFHeZ7WtByYLpJKPHekney4NsPAPe0HFw2e3uKCrFXLZL_q42LVQ1h5CYnURNIEqG7ZSaYN4jdTajKNeEQrWv1OxwemmuQeDkg-- Received: from [71.249.1.56] by web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:02:27 PDT Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: ChueKeung Mock To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <446621.52083.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:43:15 +0000 Cc: Subject: pop up message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:29:10 -0000 Hi, I had problem of pop up message during using the terminal of freebsd. I installed Freebsd 6.1 on AMD cup computer. there is pop up message during using the terminal. the messages like "Apr 28 20:05:01 dhcppc1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0" "Apr 28 21:52:53 dhcppc1 last message repeated 5 times" I feel these message annoying because it disturbs me when I edit a doc using editor. please let me know how to turn these message off. thank you tony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:30:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3D216A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 470BA13C469 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24898 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2007 00:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2007 00:28:50 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3U0U5Mx019321 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:30:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3U0U4Rq019320 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:30:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:30:04 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20070430003004.GA19298@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20070429215319.GA18753@demeter.hydra> <20070429221638.GA33593@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070429221638.GA33593@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: CLI filesystem format tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:30:07 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 06:16:39PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 03:53:19PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > Is there a simple command line tool in FreeBSD for creating a filesystem > > on an already extant slice? > > > > I'm working on a system with three main slices -- ad0s1, ad0s2, and > > ad0s3. The ad0s2 slice is further split up into the default parts of a > > FreeBSD install. The ad0s1 slice is in use by another OS. The ad0s3 > > slice has nothing of value on it, and I want to make it a FreeBSD-native > > filesystem then mount it at /usr/home. > > > > I've been hoping to find something akin to the Linux tool mkfs for this > > purpose, but so far have come up empty. Isn't there something that > > works similarly to that? Example: > > > > command /dev/ad0s3 fstype > > newfs Thanks. That's exactly what I needed. It doesn't seem to show up for any of the usual suspect search terms with apropos. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:31:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C175B16A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBE613C45A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2007 20:31:05 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id NGA60183; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2007 20:30:59 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17973.14533.91205.830003@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:31:01 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <17681BA2-A58C-4808-A0EB-09339E67504E@goldmark.org> References: <17973.654.765099.201323@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <17681BA2-A58C-4808-A0EB-09339E67504E@goldmark.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: Re: testing for directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:31:07 -0000 Jeffrey Goldberg writes: > > In C code, is there a quick and dirty way to tell if a path > > points to a directory? > > man 2 stat This, I believe, will be the answer I'm looking for. Thank you. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:34:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F08516A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2954F13C455 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l3U0Yt7p019104 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:34:55 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.11.45] (c-67-187-164-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.164.17]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l3U0YsmE002986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:34:55 -0700 Message-ID: <463539AE.5090005@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:34:54 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd001@freeode.co.uk References: <758a33l6uiii6toh3j4u3akn5cud2f477k@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <758a33l6uiii6toh3j4u3akn5cud2f477k@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.4.29.171434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nVidia port build failure in ldconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:34:56 -0000 John Murphy wrote: > While trying to build /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631 from a > freshly csup'd ports tree, it stopped with the following error: > > ===> Installing for linux-expat-1.95.8 > ===> linux-expat-1.95.8 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if textproc/linux-expat already installed > cd /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat/work && /usr/bin/find * -type d -exec /bin/mkdir -p "/compat/linux/{}" \; > cd /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat/work && /usr/bin/find * ! -type d | /usr/bin/cpio -pm -R root:wheel /compat/linux > 299 blocks > ===> Running ldconfig > /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux > ELF binary type "3" not known. > /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/linux-xorg-libs. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631. > > Should I simply csup and keep trying? Report a bug somewhere? > Or is there anything else I can do? > > FreeBSD-6.2 Release. Generic kernel. > > Please advise if a different list would be more appropriate. A shell script failed due to ldconfig not being able to figure out the binary type in question (in this case Linux). What you should do is contact the port maintainer about this. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:36:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E3D16A402 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from outbound03.telus.net (outbound03.telus.net [199.185.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D5413C483 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([205.206.56.226]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070429170518.LSPK14970.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:05:18 -0600 Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (s205-206-56-226.ab.hsia.telus.net [205.206.56.226]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 26LJTX3W6B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([70.65.134.12]) by media32.ca (mail.geekdelivery.com) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000061520.msg for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:02:21 -0600 From: Ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:04:18 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704291104.18905.ray@stilltech.net> X-Spam-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:02:21 -0600 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 70.65.134.12 X-Return-Path: ray@stilltech.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:02:23 -0600 Subject: allow ftp access, not shell access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ray@stilltech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:36:36 -0000 Hello, I want to allow ftp access to other users, without giving them shell access. how do I configure the adduser command to accomplish this, or is this there some other way? I have tried some things from google / man pages, but I'm not getting it. user ftp home directory will be adjusted in the ftpchroot file. Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:39:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6518116A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8D213C455 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l3U0d1wP002097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:39:01 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.11.45] (c-67-187-164-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.164.17]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l3U0d004011667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:39:01 -0700 Message-ID: <46353AA4.70800@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:39:00 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: anujgunj anuj singh References: <1177814816.5974.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58246490.20070429233716@rrv.ru> <1177837300.4401.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1177837300.4401.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.4.29.172234 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Reshmakov Roman Subject: Re: freebsd installation server (nfs/ftp/http) local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:39:02 -0000 anujgunj anuj singh wrote: > Hiee, > I have ISO images on network pc, I want to perform a network > installation using nfs OR ftp OR http. > Plus what is the best way of installation (package selection) to not to > switch cd's between 2 cd's. > regards > anugunj anuj > > On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 23:37 +0400, Reshmakov Roman wrote: >>> Hiee, >>> I need to create a nfs/ftp/http installation server threw which I can >>> install FreeBSD on other local machines. I have ISO images of >>> FreeBSD6.2. >>> How to create any or all nfs/ftp/http installation server. I went threw >>> man pages it shows me CDROM sharing network installation. I want to >>> install with ISO images on hard-disk. >>> Thanks and regards >>> anugunj anuj >> Use dump/restore and Fix-it from installation CD-ROM. I use this >> method and install new server over 20-30 min. All will equally serve the purpose of helping you install the files on your target machine. NFS is the least computing intensive option though and doesn't require additional components to be installed in order to use an NFS server. I would suggest not using this though if concerned about security issues, i.e. your machine is running on a unsecured/public network. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:43:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2339216A401 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA90F13C44C for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l3U0jO6b004884; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l3U0jMkB004883; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:45:20 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Martin Hepworth Message-ID: <20070430004520.GB4687@thought.org> References: <20070427194405.GA13184@eclypse.it> <72cf361e0704290958l2ac97d8anef10eaf1937a8253@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <72cf361e0704290958l2ac97d8anef10eaf1937a8253@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Suggestions for an antispam. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:43:13 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 05:58:37PM +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: > spamassassin - ask on the spamassassin users email list for howto's etc. > A quick one: is there any web tutorial that tells how to set up SA? greymail has sliced my spam to .LT. 20/day, but that still gripes me. thanks for any URL's! gary > > -- > Martin > > On 4/27/07, FreeBSD User Giacomo wrote: > > > >Hi, > >I would want a suggestion for an antispam for my email. > >I use getmail-procmail-mutt in order to receive the mail. > >Thanks. > >-- > >Isaia Luciano > >FreeBSD user > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:50:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC0316A402 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5A513C459 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-105-193.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.105.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00FCEBC78; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:50:28 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: ChueKeung Mock Message-Id: <20070429205028.fafa4a61.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <446621.52083.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <446621.52083.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.10 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pop up message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:50:29 -0000 ChueKeung Mock wrote: > > Hi, I had problem of pop up message during using the > terminal of freebsd. I installed Freebsd 6.1 on AMD > cup computer. there is pop up message during using > the terminal. the messages like > > "Apr 28 20:05:01 dhcppc1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON > ttyv0" > > "Apr 28 21:52:53 dhcppc1 last message repeated 5 > times" > > I feel these message annoying because it disturbs me > when I edit a doc using editor. please let me know > how to turn these message off. thank you I believe those are controlled by syslog. Look in /etc/syslog.conf and notice the line: *.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console Changing that will control what gets logged to the console. See the syslog.conf man page for more information. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:52:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC45216A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67BF213C483 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 57776 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2007 00:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.27.1.5?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.227 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2007 00:52:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XWG2pLAVM1n4qtKgVfNMeBOa948Sh39LEAUcRgC1wgp15OczwOFjeufM_Ks_KSNr5A-- Message-ID: <46353DB8.20105@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:52:08 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ray@stilltech.net References: <200704291104.18905.ray@stilltech.net> In-Reply-To: <200704291104.18905.ray@stilltech.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: allow ftp access, not shell access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:52:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-04-29 13:04, Ray wrote: > Hello, > I want to allow ftp access to other users, without giving them shell access. > how do I configure the adduser command to accomplish this, or is this there > some other way? > I have tried some things from google / man pages, but I'm not getting it. > user ftp home directory will be adjusted in the ftpchroot file. Hi Ray, You can set the user's shell to /sbin/nologin. Also make sure this is listed in /etc/shells if you're using FreeBSD's ftpd or lukemftpd. Hope this helps. Thanks! - -- Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGNT24s0gLFnnAwn8RAkfeAKCAgWU965msH0hONOsTgDvvB60XWgCguH5f rXc5v0NptiAof5ECx4HBkQc= =Pq1O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:57:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA5D16A402 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A24B813C455 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 6256 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2007 00:57:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.27.1.5?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.227 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2007 00:57:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5eje_ZYVM1lu5t.pWd0lOuWqyxehJlFXkdMgoH9D6_99p8nvTfgB8PRq8oVmuZSUcw-- Message-ID: <46353F16.202@hier7.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:57:58 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ray@stilltech.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200704291104.18905.ray@stilltech.net> <46353DB8.20105@hier7.com> In-Reply-To: <46353DB8.20105@hier7.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: allow ftp access, not shell access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:57:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-04-29 20:52, Chris Slothouber wrote: > On 2007-04-29 13:04, Ray wrote: >> Hello, >> I want to allow ftp access to other users, without giving them shell access. >> how do I configure the adduser command to accomplish this, or is this there >> some other way? >> I have tried some things from google / man pages, but I'm not getting it. >> user ftp home directory will be adjusted in the ftpchroot file. > You can set the user's shell to /sbin/nologin. Also make sure this is > listed in /etc/shells if you're using FreeBSD's ftpd or lukemftpd. Also see `man ftpchroot` for info on securing this. - -- Chris Slothouber (chris@hier7.com) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGNT8Ws0gLFnnAwn8RAgdGAJ9bOpst8OY7+eECdEYPuxou7xnrqwCfeA1/ Qh3Zse33/myTYzzkgP4VWgE= =KnBP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 00:58:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89C216A401 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EEB13C459 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l3U1124Q004982; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l3U111iv004981; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:01:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Danny Pansters Message-ID: <20070430010100.GC4687@thought.org> References: <20070428195720.GA34336@thought.org> <200704290032.37933.danny@ricin.com> <20070429015503.GA92606@thought.org> <200704292313.52571.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200704292313.52571.danny@ricin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via "kmplayer"?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:58:45 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 11:13:52PM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Sunday 29 April 2007 03:55:04 you wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > > Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab. But then what? > > Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror?? > > In the list on the left? I bet it's also in some file, but that's what I do if > I want to change default viewer for certain mime types. The "search for file > pattern" is useful. Agreed, it helps if you know what to look for. Seems to > me that googling for 'realplayer mimetypes' or something would be a start. > Sorry that I can't easily present you with a complete list. > > > > Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil, > > > vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. > > > If you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a > > > oddly mime-ified stream that wont play. > > > > I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server. Maybe I'll > > just scp it over and see. > > My first guess would be that that's for your unix account's email. KDE > settings and resource files are under ~/.kde/shared > > > > There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the > > > plugin that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in > > > the webpage but at least it does support moving back and forth in the > > > stream. To make this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an > > > appropriate libmap.conf. > > > > Well getting the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the > > linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter! > > Do you have one to send? Or anyone else on-list? > > > The only Realvideo stream I regularly watch is DemocracyNow. It's perfectly > possible that their setup is weird or even that their "streaming solution" > tries to not serve non-official clients, such as mplayer. It's hard to tell. > I'd say that if it doesnt play in realplayer it wont play in mplayer either. > [[ save the electrons ]] Well, long-story-shory, I set up everything to grab the /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay binary, but *still*, if I click on the "Real Audio" stream, Konqueror pops up a list at me that includes "Multimedia" and several other broswer-things. After I type in "realplay" (or the full path), yes, the linuxplugin doees appear. After two hours of fooling around, realplay does work, but it is not fully automatic. But I'm just happy that using the KDE tools that almosteverything Just-Works! thanks for your help, Dan. Appreciate it. chow fer niao, gary PS: Someday maybe I'll know enough to be able to write up a tutorial [with graphics]. If I tried that *now* I'd almost certainly screw things up completely and there would be even more dents in the concrete outside! -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 01:07:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFE516A402 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veltman@intergate.com) Received: from smtp9.trip.net (smtp9.trip.net [216.139.64.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3AC13C43E for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veltman@intergate.com) Received: from veltman (27-pool1.ras03.lax01.dial.cogentco.com [206.148.196.27]) by smtp9.trip.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l3U0qJJb069695 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:52:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501c78aca$c22797b0$1bc494ce@intergate.com> From: "Harry Veltman" To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:56:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 216.139.64.8 Cc: Subject: 5.5 hardware support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:07:46 -0000 Does 5.5 support my ELSA GLoria Synergy 8 MByte, Driver version 5.36.00.382, OpenGL version 1.1 2.01.14.128 video card? I purchased and installed version 4.8 several years ago, but it didn't seem to like the video card. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 01:17:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60AA16A401 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ED613C465 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([205.206.56.226]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070430011728.ELHC13667.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:17:28 -0600 Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (s205-206-56-226.ab.hsia.telus.net [205.206.56.226]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 9B20U62XL9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([70.65.134.12]) by media32.ca (mail.geekdelivery.com) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000061616.msg for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:14:33 -0600 From: Ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:16:39 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200704291104.18905.ray@stilltech.net> <46353DB8.20105@hier7.com> <46353F16.202@hier7.com> In-Reply-To: <46353F16.202@hier7.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704291916.39442.ray@stilltech.net> X-Spam-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:14:33 -0600 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 70.65.134.12 X-Return-Path: ray@stilltech.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:14:34 -0600 Subject: Re: allow ftp access, not shell access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ray@stilltech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:17:29 -0000 On Sunday 29 April 2007 6:57 pm, you wrote: > On 2007-04-29 20:52, Chris Slothouber wrote: > > On 2007-04-29 13:04, Ray wrote: > >> Hello, > >> I want to allow ftp access to other users, without giving them shell > >> access. how do I configure the adduser command to accomplish this, or is > >> this there some other way? > >> I have tried some things from google / man pages, but I'm not getting > >> it. user ftp home directory will be adjusted in the ftpchroot file. > > > > You can set the user's shell to /sbin/nologin. Also make sure this is > > listed in /etc/shells if you're using FreeBSD's ftpd or lukemftpd. > > Also see `man ftpchroot` for info on securing this. Thanks, I had caught that one but is there anything else I should do for the sake of security? Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 01:45:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1486716A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35B713C455 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5682DDF5E; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:13:49 +1000 (EST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A58301A986F; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:43:49 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:43:49 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Harry Veltman Message-ID: <20070430011349.GB30832@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000501c78aca$c22797b0$1bc494ce@intergate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c78aca$c22797b0$1bc494ce@intergate.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.5 hardware support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:45:32 -0000 --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 29 April 2007 at 17:56:23 -0800, Harry Veltman wrote: > Does 5.5 support my ELSA GLoria Synergy 8 MByte, Driver version 5.36.00.382, > OpenGL version 1.1 2.01.14.128 video card? I purchased and installed > version 4.8 several years ago, but it didn't seem to like the video card. This is more likely to be a question of X support, right? In any case, FreeBSD 5.5 is no longer supported. You should upgrade to 6.2 for that reason alone. Check the X.org web site to find out whether the card is supported or not. The driver version is completely irrelevant, since you won't be using it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGNULNIubykFB6QiMRAn9/AKCtTk2Wzp3ipNhIRrhLPNxKOI8eiACgiAhT uLQKgNw3tUFPDrtOKALjEmw= =/pn0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 02:44:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C8616A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F92D13C44C for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3U2fxAA015144; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:41:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3U2fwtT015143; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:41:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:41:58 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Klaus Friis =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8stergaard?= Message-ID: <20070430024158.GB15045@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scsi raid geometry high-point rocketraid 1640 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:44:44 -0000 > Hi, > > I have a raidcontroller high-point 1640 with 4 disks of 400 GB in a raid 5 > array given me 1200 GB. The bios utility of the controller zero build the > array with 64 kb > > FDISK says that the geometry is 145923/255/63 and it is incorrect. Then it > says that for scsi it is the translation mode the raid controller is using. Usually you want to accept what fdisk does. Just make the slices that you want. Geometry is virtual on these systems. > > How do I find this? > > If I continue with the defaults I only get 1144654 MB like missing 100 GB. Well, I would expect you to get something less than 1,490 GB just from the difference between the manufacturer use of GB (1,000,000,000 Bytes) and the way the OS uses GB (1,073,741,824 Bytes). I don't know how much the raidcontroller eats up to manage the raid. Raid 5 takes a piece for its redundancy/error correction. A raid 5 would eat at least 20% and maybe up to 30% if it is rather inefficient. After that you will lose some because of inconvenient remnants of space that doesn't get used. Then, there are amounts for superblocks and other aspects of building a filesystem, etc. I think that tends to be around 10% altogether. So, your number seems somewhat probable, offhand, without detailed calculations. What operations did you do to get to that point? Mine would be an fdisk that makes one slice of the entire device, a bsdlabel that divides the slice in to about 6 partitions (including swap) and a newfs on each partition except swap. ////jerry > > -- > Klaus F. Østergaard, > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 02:55:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36F316A406 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DB113C43E for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 87203 invoked by uid 1008); 30 Apr 2007 02:54:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2007 02:54:52 -0000 Received: from 74.64.6.149 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57145.74.64.6.149.1177901692.squirrel@mail.el.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:54:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "kalin mintchev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:55:08 -0000 hello... how painful is to upgrade srcs from 6 to 6.2? all backup and stuff? thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 03:02:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD7C16A401 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B488B13C448 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3U2xZQo015235; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:59:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3U2xXjG015234; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:59:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:59:33 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070430025933.GD15045@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070429215319.GA18753@demeter.hydra> <20070429221638.GA33593@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070429221638.GA33593@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: CLI filesystem format tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:02:21 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 06:16:39PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 03:53:19PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > Is there a simple command line tool in FreeBSD for creating a filesystem > > on an already extant slice? > > > > I'm working on a system with three main slices -- ad0s1, ad0s2, and > > ad0s3. The ad0s2 slice is further split up into the default parts of a > > FreeBSD install. The ad0s1 slice is in use by another OS. The ad0s3 > > slice has nothing of value on it, and I want to make it a FreeBSD-native > > filesystem then mount it at /usr/home. > > > > I've been hoping to find something akin to the Linux tool mkfs for this > > purpose, but so far have come up empty. Isn't there something that > > works similarly to that? Example: I would suggest that you first use bsdlabel to create a single partition on that slice. You can use the a: partition, or if you feel squimish about using that one that is traditionally used for root, then use the d: partition. Do this: bsdlabel -w ad0s3 To initialize a partition label, then bsdlabel -e ad0s3 You enter an edit more. Just duplicate the c: line --Do NOT change the c: line-- edit that duplicate line and make it a: or d: or whatever. Change the tuype to BSD4.2 You can add values for [fsize bsize bps/cpg], maybe to: 2048 16384 28552 But I think you can just leave them blank. write/quit the edit session and the label is written. Then you need to run newfs on that new partition. newfs /dev/ad0s3a or newfs /dev/ad0s3d if you named it d: Then, just edit /etc/fstab to make it mount at boot time and mount it up. If you already have stuff in /home, then you will need to make one of them a temporary mount somewhere to move stuff over. ////jerry > > > > command /dev/ad0s3 fstype > > newfs > > Kris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 03:15:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3387216A401 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BC813C448 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3U3Cmfr015325; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:12:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3U3CmpK015324; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:12:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:12:48 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: kalin mintchev Message-ID: <20070430031248.GF15045@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <57145.74.64.6.149.1177901692.squirrel@mail.el.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57145.74.64.6.149.1177901692.squirrel@mail.el.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:15:34 -0000 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:54:52PM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote: > > hello... > > how painful is to upgrade srcs from 6 to 6.2? all backup and stuff? Not very painful, though I would definitely recommend a backup. Even though the upgrade process is quite reliable, it is easy to make a mistake or change your mind about something in the middle and so you might want your old files. If your old files are pretty well separated from the system and third party installs -- one of the primary reasons for keeping all home directories, system web pages and databases, etc in separate file systems -- then it might be just as easy to do those backups and then do a scratch install of 6.2, csup everything to the very latest and add the ports, get everything like you want it and then reload those data items - or you might not even have to reload them if everything points to the same places. But, the upgrade will work well too. I just am inclined to do scratch installs when they will be easy. ////jerry > > thanks... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 03:17:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87816A406 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kend@amigo.net) Received: from mx.amigo.net (mx.amigo.net [209.94.64.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56C113C458 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kend@amigo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailtest1.amigo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6513BEB2 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:17:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amigo.net Received: from mx.amigo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailtest1.amigo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7nqd4Cd7L4U for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:17:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.27] (billing.amigo.net [209.94.67.250]) by mailtest1.amigo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C237E3BE8B for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:17:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:17:35 -0600 From: Kenny Dail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <0674B8B4-EB98-4876-AB35-51D0FD550680@gmail.com> References: <0674B8B4-EB98-4876-AB35-51D0FD550680@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20070429211106.A178.KEND@amigo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.28.01 [en] Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:17:38 -0000 > > I'm monitoring systems at the ISP I work at. No, it is not life or > > death > > if a feed goes down for 3 hours and a bunch of people cannot download > > their daily freebsd-questions mailing list fix. At least, I don't > > think > > so. But they do. And as their money that buys the ISP's product puts > > the bread on my table, I have to do what they want. And they want > > instant > > response if there is a problem in the ISP's systems. That won't > > happen if > > the monitoring system's e-mails that get sent out when there is a > > problem > > lie around in a mail queue for an hour waiting for a greylist at the > > cell company to let the messages through. I understand where you are coming from on this, of course email is not the right medium to use for notifying of email failures. We built an SMS gateway. -- Kenny Dail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 03:22:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F1C16A400 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1138413C458 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1230784ana for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:22:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signatu