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Date:      Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:10:12 +1100
From:      Mark.Andrews@nominum.com
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        Mark.Andrews@nominum.com, Gregory Bond <gnb@itga.com.au>, Christopher Schulte <christopher@schulte.org>, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Weird sporadic DNS resolution problems 
Message-ID:  <200101190110.f0J1ADF67470@drugs.dv.isc.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:39:06 CDT." <4.2.2.20010118193210.038e34d8@marble.sentex.net> 

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> At 11:27 AM 1/19/2001 +1100, Mark.Andrews@nominum.com wrote:
> 
> >         But did the A record of the MX exist?  Was the zone correctly
> >         delegated?  There are quite a few configuration error case
> >         transient errors.
> 
> In the past, you were able to send email to LAME zones. i.e. a server which 
> did not respond authoritatively. The question I have is when did this 
> change, and if so, is it a tuneable. The example I gave was supercom.ca. 
> Both their servers respond LAME in the classic sense.
> 
> ns4# mail -v postmasterd@supercom.ca
> Subject: test ignore
> 
> EOT
> postmasterd@supercom.ca... supercom.ca: Name server timeout
> postmasterd@supercom.ca... Transient parse error -- message queued for 
> future delivery
> postmasterd@supercom.ca... queued
> ns4#
> 
>  From a LINUX box
> mail -v postmaster@supercom.ca
> Subject: test ignore
> 
> Cc:
> postmaster@supercom.ca... Connecting to mail.supercom.ca. via esmtp...
> 
> [root@devonium2 mdtancsa]# v220 mail.supercom.ca Lotus SMTP MTA Service Ready
>  >>> EHLO devonium2.sentex.ca
> i250-mail.supercom.ca
> 250-SIZE 0
> 250 EXPN
>  >>> MAIL From:<root@devonium2.sentex.ca> SIZE=50
> 250 OK
>  >>> RCPT To:<postmaster@supercom.ca>
> 250 OK
>  >>> DATA
>   354 Enter Mail, end by a line with only '.'
>  >>> .
> /250 Message received OK.
> postmaster@supercom.ca... Sent (Message received OK.)
> Closing connection to mail.supercom.ca.
>  >>> QUIT
> 221 GoodBye
> 
> 
> Same rev of sendmail, asking another earlier BIND.
> 
>          ---Mike
> 
> 
>          ---Mike
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike Tancsa,                          	          tel +1 519 651 3400
> Network Administration,     			  mike@sentex.net
> Sentex Communications                 		  www.sentex.net
> Cambridge, Ontario Canada			  www.sentex.net/mike
> 

	So, you would rather have BIND pass on *bad/incomplete* data.
	From the outside I have no way of knowing if any RRset is complete.

	Some of this will become moot soon BIND 9 and BIND 8.2.3 refuse
	to serve bad zones.

	Mark
--
Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc.
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com


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