From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 02:51:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD4416A421 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.village.org (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1BA43D45 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7O2ngmM078865; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:49:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:49:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20050823.204953.45179030.imp@bsdimp.com> To: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20050824014209.GA27924@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20050822181740.GD22948@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20050822.212221.130618636.imp@bsdimp.com> <20050824014209.GA27924@odin.ac.hmc.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.village.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:49:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org, gallatin@cs.duke.edu Subject: Re: Beta2: Nice job! X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:51:31 -0000 In message: <20050824014209.GA27924@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Brooks Davis writes: : On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:22:21PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <20050822181740.GD22948@odin.ac.hmc.edu> : > Brooks Davis writes: : > : On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 08:39:40AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: : > : > - Maybe /etc/pccard_ether should not depend on $removable_interfaces. : > : > After all, it does ignore interfaces which are up. Or maybe I'm just : > : > bitter because it took me 15 minutes to figure out why the wireless : > : > card was not getting setup on resume... ;) : > : : > : I'm leaning more an more in this direction. I just need some time to : > : work on it a bit more. : > : > Yes. This was definitely an unwise choice. It certainly broke years : > of tradition, if nothing else :-). It tripped me up for a period of : > time as well, and when I build/install my 'virgin' tree it still trips : > me up for a few seconds when I see the behavior that I've dyked out : > return. Of course my hammer is big (completely remove : > removable_interfaces and replace it with nothing). : : Fixed in HEAD. :-P I've killed removable_interfaces and added a NOAUTO : keyword for those who want to have purely manual control of an interface. You da man! Thanks! Warner