From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 15:41:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E8816A418 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7F513C46E for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m11FfeTD051195; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:41:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m11Ffbab051194; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:41:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:41:37 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200802011541.m11Ffbab051194@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@solink.ru In-Reply-To: <200802011654.56731.root@solink.ru> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-current User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:41:41 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 on DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@solink.ru List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:41:43 -0000 Hello, I'm replying both to the KOI8-R charset problem and to the 7.0 DVD question. Please skip the part(s) that you're not interested in. :-) Bachilo Dmitry wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Bachilo Dmitry wrote: > > > --===============1475038008== > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > charset="koi8-r" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > My EXMH doesnt seem to repond well above, clicking on reply. > > Well, I'm using KMail and write to this mailing list for a while now, there > was no such prublem before I think the problem is that your mail uses the charset "KOI8-R", and Julian's MUA doesn't know how to handle that. Maybe you should configure your mailer to send plain ASCII when mailing to international (English- sepaking) lists? On the other hand, my client doesn't send plain ASCII either, but ISO8859-1 (or -15, depending on the type of terminal I'm sitting at). I'm not aware of any problems caused by that. In fact KOI8-R is a superset of ASCII (just like the ISO8859-* and Windows-1252 character sets). So such messages can be displayed as-is if they don't contain characters beyond 7bit ASCII. I think metamail is clever enough to just do that. At least it does that for me; I had no problems displaying Bachilo Dmitry's message, except for a few characters (cyrillic, I guess) in the attribution line that were converted to question marks. Not a big deal. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with EXMH, so I don't know if this is helpful information. Does EXMH call metamail for MIME-formatted messages, or does it try handle them itself? BTW, I'm surprised that it simply seems to display the raw base64 data. If it doesn't know how to handle the charset, it should either display the decoded data as-is, or don't display it at all and give an error message. I'm sure there's something that needs to be configured. OK, now to the DVD topic. :-) > > to http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm > > and you can "Pre-Order FreeBSD 7.0 DVD" By the way, Lehmanns (www.lob.de) will produce a DVD-ROM of FreeBSD 7.0 shortly after release (page is in German): http://www.lob.de/cgi-bin/out?isbn=386541263 They're in Germany, though, so it probably doesn't make sense for you to order there. > If I only could now download 7.0-RC2 DVD and Install it on > some server right now, that would be a pleasure, but I will > have to work as a CD-changer instead. I'm not sure I understand you here. You only need one CD (the one labelled "disk1"). It contains everything you need to install the FreeBSD base system and the ports collection. Then you can configure network and install ports or packages from the internet. All of that can be done remotely, there is no need to change CDs. The other CDs are optional. They contain documentation and packages for those people who prefer to install them from CD instead of from the internet. For example when you don't have a sufficiently good uplink at home, you can download the ISOs at work or at a friend, then carry the CDs home and install from them. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We will perhaps eventually be writing only small modules which are identi- fied by name as they are used to build larger ones, so that devices like indentation, rather than delimiters, might become feasible for expressing local structure in the source language." -- Donald E. Knuth, 1974