From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 20:30:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CB2106567F for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50E68FC1F for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m61K35An070609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:03:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely7.cicely.de [10.1.1.9]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m61K2tKD098749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:02:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m61K2tNd028687; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:02:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m61K2sD8028686; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:02:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:02:54 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Bakul Shah Message-ID: <20080701200254.GB17364@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <86skutzoml.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080701175932.0B76F5B4B@mail.bitblocks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080701175932.0B76F5B4B@mail.bitblocks.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely7.cicely.de 7.0-STABLE i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on spamd.cicely.de Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: It's 2008. 1 TB disk drives cost $160. Quotas are 32-bit. X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:30:45 -0000 On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:59:31AM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:05:06 +0200 =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: > > Heinrich Rebehn writes: > > > Andrew Reilly writes: > > > > But with the level of use in recent years, maybe the right answer is > > > > to consign them to the bin (or an optional GEOM layer or whatever), > > > > along with tty line disciplines, uucp, isdn and X10? > > > With this reasoning you could also drop the shell and tell people to > > > use kde. BTW, X10 has been replaced by X11 ;-) > > > > No, the X10 Andrew refers to has been replaced by better standards such > > as LonWorks. JFGI. > > Hey, X10 works well enough and you can still get X10 modules > and controllers. But you don't need any kernel support; just > need one little program. I still do this: > > x10 switch printer on > > x10 switch printer off > > Besides, LonWorks is already pass\xe9 -- from what I hear the > latest hot thing is zigbee (but that was last month; surely a > new standard is afoot by now). > > To bring this back on topic, perhaps John Kobuzik can just > use the zfs since it already has quota support? For example, > > # zfs create z/foo > # zfs quota=10M z/foo > dd < /dev/zero bs=1M count=20 > /z/foo/xx > dd: stdout: Disc quota exceeded > 11+0 records in > 10+0 records out > 10485760 bytes transferred in 4.718700 secs (2222171 bytes/sec) > # zfs set quota=10T z/foo > # zfs get quota z/foo > NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE > z/foo quota 10T local This is basicly what the partition size is for normal filesystems, with the great ability of course to change it cheaply at any time. But this is in no way a per user quota in the way ufs does. -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.