From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 10 16:09:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3133F1065672 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from sphinx.otenet.gr (sphinx.otenet.gr [83.235.69.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798C8FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from panas.otenet.gr (panas.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by sphinx.otenet.gr (ESMTP) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:09:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.0.150] (athedsl-4364788.home.otenet.gr [79.130.9.228]) by panas.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBAG9pMs025740 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:09:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:09:56 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:09:57 -0000 On 10/12/2011 5:19 μμ, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, R Skinner wrote: > >> So I went to the handbook. I'm still a little confused though: can >> one still setup the usr and var (and so forth)? It said you possibly >> could, but it escaped me as to how. > > Use the bsdinstall partition editor to manually create the partitions. > I documented how to create an old-fashioned MBR layout with bsdinstall > on the forums a while back: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210&postcount=13 > > The process would be similar for GPT, which is really the way to go now. > As Warren says, you can still create /usr and /var and all the other "legacy" partitions if you so wish - and you may even use the full journaling (gjournal) on them. But the default for bsdinstall is to use gpart, install everything on a big / and create UFS2 partitions with the new soft-updates journaling system (on by default). Compared to gjournal, soft-updates journaling only journals metadata and not everything like gjournal does. This will definitely make it faster although probably less "safe" than gjournal. It should be good for most purposes though and needs no additional steps after install (unlike gjournal). Since it's the default, the decision to go for one big / seems ok after all. I believe this is more or less what Linux is doing with Ext3/Ext4 filesystems (metadata journaling).