Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:45:44 -0700 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots Message-ID: <CAOgwaMu9m9vp3At=iUMsnX_XN8paeRo4eXAVU=sZmZ%2Bav8UvyQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <514715F9.2080506@freebsd.org> References: <CAOgwaMss0cB9bFqCkjzukb-=9FqgLN9vthL5QdQsk-6Lknk5VQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAFHbX1LcCGoWy%2BHzp8T7z4noFZAMK1-sCuWpO_Z_ybhnoMMY5A@mail.gmail.com> <CAOgwaMtTmx4LhEdrg3WNjZA-uyTRSN913RBWrrqMia4GZhP_zA@mail.gmail.com> <CAFHbX1KkD7fWP%2BKZNrSjzCStUM_Smjw7GdKDTo=DjjMoe5ttGA@mail.gmail.com> <35878.1363607691@critter.freebsd.dk> <CAOgwaMthTbj5k%2B03WSNGK7wm0aTufd1czQotM1wF0mAVnU7HLQ@mail.gmail.com> <514715F9.2080506@freebsd.org>
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--14dae9cdcaad384cae04d8340bf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>wrote: > On 03/18/13 07:18, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk > >wrote: > > > >> In message <CAFHbX1KkD7fWP+KZNrSjzCStUM_Smjw7GdKDTo= > >> DjjMoe5ttGA@mail.gmail.com>, Tom Evans writes: > >> > >>> You say this, have you actually measured/checked. sysutils/dmidecode > >>> will interrogate your BIOS and tell us what it thinks is installed in > >>> each RAM socket. It is not uncommon for RAM to say one thing on the > >>> outside, and report something completely different to the BIOS. > >> > >> I can only second Tom's call for a proper scientific approach to > >> debugging this issue, rather than just assume that it is the > >> operating systems fault. > >> > >> -- > >> Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > >> phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > >> FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > >> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by > incompetence. > >> > > > > > > I am a graduate of Operations Research and Statistics option of a > > Mathematics department . > > All of your considerations are considered . It is so much apparent that , > > the cause is FreeBSD . > > > > In my previous year message and in its subsequent messages , there are > > sufficiently detailed information . > > > > > > This message is caused from the following fact : > > > > In previous year case , KDE used was a cause , but FluxBox was working > fast > > . > > Now , I have installed 10.0 current . It does not have KDE in packages . > I > > have installed FluxBox . > > It is not a few second slow : Many minutes to start Firefox , and > activate > > a menu of it ! > > > > What is the point of measuring milliseconds when the difference is around > > many minutes ? > > > > PC-BSD installation ( it is a graphical installation after starting X ) > is > > taking many hours to reach 20 percent completion . > > The same is for GhostBSD : Start it at night , at the next morning , it > is > > likely that it is not finished yet . > > > > > > Then : WQhat will be measured ? > > > > Linux installations are around 30 minutes . > > Starting/Opening menus are instantenous : I do no have chronometer , but > > everything is within a second . > > > > > > Thank you very much . > > The problem is that "slow" doesn't mean anything. An incomplete list of > things it might be related to: > 1. Something to do with the way KDE is built (options, system compiler) > 2. A disk I/O issue > 3. A memory speed issue > 4. Some other process using CPU that isn't running on Linux > 5. A scheduler issue triggered by some property of the machine > > Doing some of these smaller tests will help pin down which of these are > causing the problem. Without that, there's no possibility to even start > debugging. Even just running top and seeing whether you are spinning in > a user thread, in the kernel, or waiting while the slow things are > happening would be extremely helpful. > -Nathan > _______________________________________________ > <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> > The dmidecode output is attached . Thank you very much . 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