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Date:      Wed, 07 May 1997 05:15:10 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        "David S. Miller" <davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu>
Cc:        hsu@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@hub.freebsd.org, hackers@hub.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Alpha questions... 
Message-ID:  <8959.863007310@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 May 1997 08:06:06 EDT." <199705071206.IAA05102@jenolan.caipgeneral> 

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> Care to elaborate?  I'm very curious as to what the problems would be
> if you used the OSF palcode...

Well, the politics are too much to go into here (I'd have to explain
the various byzantine issues involved between the various Digital BUs
who own different and distinct pieces of the ALPHA pie, and my fingers
just aren't up for that anyway :) but I can say two things
unequivocably:

1. The OSF palcode costs money, nor will you see updates for it
   on the various FTP sites for that reason.  The CC associated
   with this product wants to make its money back whereas the
   ARC code was done in cooperation with Microsoft and there are
   no such issues surrounding it.

2. The OSF palcode supports an absolutely miserable array of
   hardware, in fact just using the word "array" is to over-glorify
   it.  Call any Digital hardware dealer (like Aspen Systems) and
   ask them about the supported hardware configurations when the
   system runs ARC and when the system runs OSF palcode (AKA SRM).

   What you can't boot from you can't support, even if there are
   appropriate drivers in the kernel just waiting to be used.

3. The manager of the BU who owns the SRM console has said that
   he'll support free software users of it over his dead body.
   This is an openly hostile relationship and we just plain don't need
   it.

					Jordan



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