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Date:      Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:58:16 -0600
From:      jacks@sage-american.com
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>, cjc@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        nate@yogotech.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20020127075816.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020127.052626.107682843.imp@village.org>
References:  <20020127014848.F23259@blossom.cjclark.org> <15443.44156.595426.139371@caddis.yogotech.com> <20020127.004656.53474822.imp@village.org> <20020127014848.F23259@blossom.cjclark.org>

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What would be wrong with booting without loading a FW script and then
loading the rules after the boot is finished...???

At 05:26 AM 1.27.2002 -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>In message: <20020127014848.F23259@blossom.cjclark.org>
>            "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:
>: Warner, if the proposed change were to be made, you could get the same
>: effect by doing,
>: 
>:   firewall_enable="YES"
>:   firewall_script="/dev/null"
>: 
>: Which I think more accurately describes the behavior you want (if
>: someone were to browse the rc.conf and try to understand your
>: configuration, they'd be more likely to understand what you are trying
>: to do if they saw the above). You want to enable firewalling, but
>: don't want to load any rules.
>
>But I don't want it to fail unsafely.  That's the part that I still do
>not like about the change and why I'm making a big deal out of it.
>This is a security feature that you are proposing that we depart from
>our long standing tradition and make fail unsafely.
>
>rc scipts shouldn't take things out of the kernel that people have
>specifically compiled into the kernel.
>
>Warner
>
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Server Admin

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