From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 04:02:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAD91065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6748FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q973qIIc098547 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:52:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:49:19 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120901 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:02:18 -0000 Hello list! When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. kldload vboxdrv.ko kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error Rebuilt VB and still this error 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 GENERIC amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 04:38:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F0B1065672 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7649E8FC17 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wc20so3787503obb.13 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q1q81Z9w0etlCJyx66XK5YrHQG/x+QnmbV/5/RtXxl8=; b=rF1YRRvkpvsttsqqirYvpL+f5+af0yY0iY46ToBB31l03x8P4MSZ+tti7i+iOvWq6R mK4wW6UwY/OHPvhGmjvv1icaPBLkdvi+thR/kk2abO2BygaZf22bTQgcEcAymQtmpIi2 ppIh2BXnk2ul9sRakTbjKHfiX859iTNO/Ef/soDczoj2LmU0IhyOWmiynYi71nvbeCQn we5xyCEwOzHDLAsCTKeTxBGRLwgTV5UtEe/F+saZ5kHi2akRLt4NnXtuZpljbsPX1hCw YUDzMr9wXiyYCEW/fho7fsG7S8MiXbrwN8r8H24qVxKLxM3FAN7BMVN/x3VGyD7+uGsw Ceqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.42.6 with SMTP id j6mr10326215obl.93.1349584686244; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.12.202 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:38:07 -0000 On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. > > kldload vboxdrv.ko > kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error > > Rebuilt VB and still this error > > 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 > GENERIC amd64 > Update your kernel sources to match the installed. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 05:12:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DBA106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E352E8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKj9p-00049Q-C9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:12:05 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:12:05 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:12:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:12:09 -0000 Hi, is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 07:03:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A3106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jau@iki.fi) Received: from jau.iki.fi (ip193-64-26-117.cust.eunet.fi [193.64.26.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D58F8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (sleipnir.thunderbolt.fi [192.168.1.131]) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9773MLc026892 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:03:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from jau@iki.fi) Message-ID: <50712935.20900@iki.fi> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:03:17 +0300 From: "Jukka A. Ukkonen" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (jau.iki.fi [192.168.1.42]); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:03:23 +0300 (EEST) Cc: Subject: FreeBSD & SCSI LUN reservation (essentially an exclusive lock) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:03:33 -0000 Hello all, Is there any way for a process in user space to try to trigger a SCSI LUN reservation in FreeBSD? This would be a very useful thing to have when using a multi-port storage device which can be simultaneously connected to multiple systems. --jau From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 07:17:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC3A106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alwindoss84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FA48FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so4337166vcb.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XSAtQj6buM7qZSsMWOWru+efaCKWOBFTc6RBoA+PWaI=; b=pSt0/DCXlD3TPskIZOvrT/xmwYuj0XUozuoYEU2ozKIJdQ6WJ9xP1uS/P4JJo8yA/u 53uZHSQT2Hk1+5ikhoV6Tbs53j0797krt3B/NeAkcqUy+BW1fMW19id1jt1idnfHS618 pZOk/GhBkOYf71jemcCDbPxQhmCg/aAg5yNYVfJFP/82Z2rDc+XV7E61z0BDD0BQYqg1 3uNleYSiXejQn0Y8pFTeWeBin8HX2gtFgFNpLbiRmx7am/OS0sPnYLSfFYrJAhV0VWzH mgK5XVoYC1dEY+qzBmg9xtQNedWYoO7N7gY3jMznNlpxsc4NumQlQ8Z3ZvBSPU+k+GZS i8Dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.172.167 with SMTP id bd7mr8194993vec.15.1349594246502; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.216.4 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:47:26 +0530 Message-ID: From: alwin doss To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:17:27 -0000 Hi, Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other than linux with enthusiasm. But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if you need that is!!! Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for this new journey to begin. -- Alwin Doss God's Beloved From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 07:38:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDCE106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE428FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x43so2438042wey.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6lNkpVld+DQymWR/rLJy2cRB98qO85Agkua2NCRUeE4=; b=M0w8+Xf+lbQgFzOHaSie1Kfgyaxi3OQUPoTp5ccmj9kaVRgA7mtfH11darNRoOfPNZ Ryxtc+SkBuVaY7sCT98euIhDShZ7PvgZPmAL+F6c5DKolFnvdRIFF2fJ9zXFP3hRsDaD 5o9Ao+LzVLGuLQS7SuPA3Ayn6Lv6FIqRxzNK6sOpXQNQP8X6PBIGpGk5nEL0ANCbpPQv 2EISTYOcM6ikw2UdGVvfqlAjg2MwaGqnbBAr2Z0PN33XCqDm/Sqp1WePWDJvqv52Y9IE ROw3BNhbhw7UMcfO7iGKe1/bKJCnb1veyUhmIWBd8oC2+LQaiGIDYvT4s9uTjLX2qzdu E8ag== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.206.152 with SMTP id l24mr7466066weo.66.1349595510375; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.156.14 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: alwin doss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:38:37 -0000 On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, alwin doss wrote: > Hi, > > Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other > than linux with enthusiasm. > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". > > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. > > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. > > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if > you need that is!!! > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > this new journey to begin. > > > -- > Alwin Doss > God's Beloved > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Take a look at PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.org/ Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:09:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6E106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59168FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9789EM6007248 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:09:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9789DnP007247 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:09:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:09:13 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121007080913.GB7105@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <99771.1349515504@tristatelogic.com> <20121006094552.GA39590@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121006113107.GA29404@saltmine.radix.net> <20121006113200.GB29404@saltmine.radix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20121006113200.GB29404@saltmine.radix.net> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Xterm options for correct man page display? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:09:17 -0000 [ Thomas Dickey wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 7:32:00 -0400 ] > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are com= ing > > > > out a bit garbled. > > > >=20 > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone wo= uld > > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > >=20 > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experimen= ted with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode c= haraters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also cha= nged my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to more,= and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now for m= e. > >=20 > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > >=20 > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resource > > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. >=20 > For example >=20 > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts Hi Thomas - is understand what your saying about uxterm - it does display u= tf8 fonts correctly when leaving the font resource alone, but the default f= ont is very small, too small for my eyes.=20 I installed a large number of utf8 supported X fonts, the ones I've tried d= on't display Chinese or Korean, or Russian fonts etc. It became a little fr= ustrating which made me change to another terminal. The link you provided d= oesn't appear to be active. Would you be kind enough to show the resource s= ettings you have used? I spent a long time reading through the man page and trying out different r= esource settings and combinations of them, European fonts were never a prob= lem, just the east Asian characters and Russian characters as I mentioned. I've set my locale to en_GB.UTF-8 using /etc/login.conf and then cap_mkdb /= etc/login.conf. As I said in my previous email, urxvt has no problem displa= ying these characters but I'd like to get uxterm working properly none the = less, as I'm sure the OP does as well. Best wishes, Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:12:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB561065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5AD8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q978CK0H061481; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:12:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q978CK0H061481 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q978CK0H061481; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Received: (from matthew@localhost) by lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q978CJas061480; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:12:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:12:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: alwin doss Message-ID: <20121007081219.GA60815@smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:12:26 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 12:47:26PM +0530, alwin doss wrote: > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I ha= ve > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Have you tried PC-BSD? It is effectively a 'distro' of FreeBSD, but aimed very much at desktop users. The installation process has been extensively modified, and should be much more accessible to new users. Also, laptops can be difficult to install FreeBSD on -- they tend to have non-standard versions of many of the typical components. Try looking up your hardware here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ to see what tricks and tweaks may be needed. If you'ld like to contribute towards FreeBSD, you will be more that welcome. The easiest and simplest way to start is to become an active participant on the various mailing lists or the FreeBSD forums. Then, as you become familiar with the system, find and characterise any bugs you run into, and submit well-formed problem reports, for any of the ports, docs or the base system. "Well-formed" in the sense that just saying "foo is broken" doesn't really help: it is much better to show output from foo illustrating the brokenness and explain what you'ld expect to see specifically. Even better is if you can include patches to fix the problem. Don't be disenheartened if your patches get quite rigourously critiqued -- that's a good sign: it usually means that committers are taking your ideas seriously but want you to improve the implementation before it can be committed. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBxOWMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxpKwCfTrRxIfdjsK4TwW8WxZXB23CE mwQAnRC8gWX4dPE8Qt5h9ZmHnoVh1LHG =xd/I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:17:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387731065672 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785FD8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q978HZBk007294 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:17:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q978HZgs007293 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:17:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:17:35 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121007081735.GC7105@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:17:41 -0000 [ Waitman Gobble wrote on Sun 7.Oct'12 at 0:38:30 -0700 ] > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, alwin doss wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other > > than linux with enthusiasm. > > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". > > > > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > > installation process is really hard, I must say. > > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. > > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. > > > > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone > > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. > > > > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > > FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if > > you need that is!!! > > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > > this new journey to begin. > > > > > > -- > > Alwin Doss > > God's Beloved > Take a look at PC-BSD > http://www.pcbsd.org/ > Waitman Gobble Yes i think you might benefit initially from installing PC-BSD. It IS FreeBSD, but the creators have put a great deal of effort and hard work into making it easier to install and to provide an X environment that is already set up and configured for you to use. If you were to install FreeBSD there are a lot of configuration changes to be made and software to install to get the set-up I believe you're looking for. PC-BSD will take away that part of it for you and most likely make your experience of FreeBSD a lot less headache free. It's default desktop is KDE 4 i believe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:26:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A94106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8928FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:26:46 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=RdJK+3M1i+XwzfW2MV68c28t6Ch3YKdlhdoD4NilP7w= c=1 sm=0 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=v-jSY8FYUwO_ATZMCzwA:9 a=AcdsImxJPJ9Yo6Ye3TGm+Q==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.34.76 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.34.76] ([74.134.34.76:44030] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id EF/5D-07499-5CC31705; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:26:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: alwin doss Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:26:47 -0000 > Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other > than linux with enthusiasm. > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if > you need that is!!! > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > this new journey to begin. > Alwin Doss > God's Beloved I don't think there is any such thing as "FreeBSD's very own GUI". FreeBSD's GUI is X Window System, but this is Unix's main GUI, which is also used by other (quasi-)Unixes including Linux. You can look through the FreeBSD Handbook online, even download it. You can find useful links from www.freebsd.org . Does anybody know about live USBs/CDs/DVDs for FreeBSD? Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 10:43:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B30106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8118FC1C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id q97AhJnA001226 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id q97AhImS001212 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:43:18 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121007104318.GA329@saltmine.radix.net> References: <99771.1349515504@tristatelogic.com> <20121006094552.GA39590@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121006113107.GA29404@saltmine.radix.net> <20121006113200.GB29404@saltmine.radix.net> <20121007080913.GB7105@kontrol.kode5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121007080913.GB7105@kontrol.kode5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Subject: Re: Xterm options for correct man page display? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:43:20 -0000 --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 09:09:13AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Thomas Dickey wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 7:32:00 -0400 ] >=20 > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are c= oming > > > > > out a bit garbled. > > > > >=20 > > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone = would > > > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > > >=20 > > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experim= ented with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode= charaters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also c= hanged my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to mor= e, and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now for= me. > > >=20 > > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > > >=20 > > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resour= ce > > > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. > >=20 > > For example > >=20 > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts >=20 > Hi Thomas - is understand what your saying about uxterm - it does display > utf8 fonts correctly when leaving the font resource alone, but the default > font is very small, too small for my eyes.=20 >=20 > I installed a large number of utf8 supported X fonts, the ones I've tried > don't display Chinese or Korean, or Russian fonts etc. It became a little > frustrating which made me change to another terminal. The link you provi= ded > doesn't appear to be active. Would you be kind enough to show the resour= ce > settings you have used? Well - the default size is a compromise (there are people who apparently use the smallest size regularly - looking at urxvt out-of-the-box, it's true there)(*). I generally use the font-size switching feature which I adapted from rxvt (one of the features which was omitted in urxvt), and switch to one of the two largest sizes using shift-keypad-plus. There are differences in the default fonts' coverage for CJK fonts, but between those two sizes I can see almost all characters. =20 > I spent a long time reading through the man page and trying out different > resource settings and combinations of them, European fonts were never a > problem, just the east Asian characters and Russian characters as I > mentioned. I haven't noticed a problem (with uxterm) for Russian characters - more info might help. =20 > I've set my locale to en_GB.UTF-8 using /etc/login.conf and then cap_mkdb > /etc/login.conf. As I said in my previous email, urxvt has no problem > displaying these characters but I'd like to get uxterm working properly n= one > the less, as I'm sure the OP does as well. (*) the default size when switching to TrueType fonts is roughly what I use normally for the bitmap fonts (much larger than the default), and I should have made it consistent. It's configurable, and I later added a note in the manpage explaining how to do this... The default font for xterm has "always" been the "fixed" font, which as noted above I find too small for normal use. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFQcVzEtIqByHxlDocRAp6qAJ9/GnSEH28OJueA2PI91S3ClCLJQACfRc3F I3jGn6ZoX1eHuonF7kdQp1Q= =H9Fp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 11:44:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD72106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3D48FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3843CD49; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:37:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97Bb70q001985; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:37:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:37:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:44:42 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Hi, > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. In case you are intending to "just" install a text processing program, try AbiWord. It is the TP designed to be used with Gnome, but builds independently (even though it requires lots of Gtk dependencies). If installed, you will "only" have the text processing program -- no spreadsheet, no database, no presentation graphics. It's a quite versatile program and can even read outdated MICROS~1 memory garbage formats. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 11:50:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47327106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31208FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2A43CD98; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:50:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97BoqRM002007; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:50:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:50:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: alwin doss Message-Id: <20121007135052.c9e9069e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:50:54 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:47:26 +0530, alwin doss wrote: > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". A valid point. With UNIX basic knowledge, you can master nearly any "outdated" commercial UNIX, BSD and Linux, even though it is sometimes complicated to find the "simple parts" (i. e. the UNIX parts) in Linux. :-) > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. I cannot conform that. Do you have a second system that you can use to refer to the documentation that exactly describes, with text and pictures, how to perform the installation process? Note that FreeBSD, in opposite to many other systems, comes with excellent documentation both for Internet and offline use. Check out The FreeBSD Handbook's installation section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html and the FAQ regarding this topic: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/install.html You'll see that the installation is quite simple: You just have to follow the instructions shown on the screen. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. It's a bit complicated to get _all_ features running on _all_ kinds of laptops has hardware manufacturers do not care much about standards and specifications. Still I hear from many people successfully running FreeBSD on their super-duper-new laptops, and I run it on my old and shady laptops. :-) > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. Both languages can be used on FreeBSD. C++ is supported out of the box. Java requires you to install additional software due to licensing terms and lawyer blahblah. > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. FreeBSD does not have a "very own GUI". In fact, it has many GUIs, and it doesn't have a GUI per se. Note that it is a multi-purpose system, that's why it doesn't come with a graphical installer so you can install it on a server (that doesn't even have a monitor). After installation, you can add as many GUIs as you like (for example, you can have both KDE and Gnome on your system, plus olvwm and even WindowMaker). The choice is _yours_. There is nothing directly tied to the system. However, PC-BSD comes with a preinstalled and preconfigured (!) KDE environment. VirtualBSD comes with Xfce, if I remember correctly. You can check out those projects: PC-BSD is said to be easier to adopt by Linux and even "Windows" users as it comes with a graphical installer, preconfigured environments, preinstalled software, and caters the "out of the box" community a lot. And VirtualBSD can be used from within a VM, it's a nice "try it out" system. http://www.pcbsd.org/ http://www.virtualbsd.info/ You can find screenshots there too. :-) > Not depending on anyone > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. That's one of the primary advantages of FreeBSD: The system will not do anything until _YOU_ tell it to. Know what you do. Know where to find information (Handbook, FAQ, "man" command, mailing lists). > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > FreeBSD it would be great. Find something that you consider interesting and worth contributing to. Refer to this page for more information: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/contributing/index.html > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > this new journey to begin. If you enounter problems during installation, feel free to contact the list. Describe your problem as exact as possible, use the available troubleshooting resources first, like, "do your homework". :-) http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo http://www.freebsd.org/support.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 12:12:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5CC1065742 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6478A8FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKpil-0004EQ-2d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:12:38 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > Hi, > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. > ... It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, prepackaged. I hope that FB's office team finds time to figure it out. It would benefit FB-based OSs to reasonably customize their CDs. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:34:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECE0106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CB48FC1B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q97EYcR6004749; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q97EYcD7004746; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:34:48 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. > > kldload vboxdrv.ko > kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error > > Rebuilt VB and still this error > > 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 > GENERIC amd64 Rebuild virtualbox-kmod. Technically, that should be done every time system source has been updated and rebuilt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:01:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8429106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F5F8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811FB27CA8; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97F1FAf004896; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:01:22 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > > Hi, > > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? > > > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like > > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing > > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. > > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. > > ... > > It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, prepackaged. Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come with a _separated_ build for all the components that have such a corresponding package, or is it simply not containing the binaries for the "other" components? For example, you could build a whole OO or LO suite and just have one selected binary installed, but that wouldn't be very precise regarding the question "Writer only"... If it would be possible to have the components as separate ports in FreeBSD it would be helpful for selectively installing stuff, e. g. if only one or two components of the office suite are really needed (or allowed!) to be _built_ and installed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:44:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC5A106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235588FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKt1t-0004eS-LD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:44:30 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > > > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > > > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? > > > > > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like > > > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing > > > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. > > > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. > > > ... > > > > It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, > > prepackaged. > > Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come > with a _separated_ build for all the components that have such > a corresponding package, or is it simply not containing the > binaries for the "other" components? > ... For example, in Archlinux these are separate builds/packages: libreoffice-common libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-writer libreoffice-sdk libreoffice-sdk-doc libreoffice-extension-nlpsolver libreoffice-extension-pdfimport libreoffice-extension-presentation-minimizer libreoffice-extension-presenter-screen libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-math libreoffice-postgresql-connector libreoffice-scripting-javascript ... So, there is a lot of functionality thru modularity. For example, in CentOS (clone of RedHat) I can install libreoffice-writer only, which pulls libreoffice-common, and perhaps some extension packages (if so configured). jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 18:55:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912451065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefa.rossi96@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2BD8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x43so2718281wey.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=9X9gVcbpwkm+sBIdWX/57Eg2JpAztlRoY7CPVlDc5nI=; b=JEPlRQJbsPrh0Nell0c3JToOV8qWEyC0R2Fp7r2mY8nnbHUdmU0carLNAi5xpxjeak AvgVz2x4pLvWPQBikEHFs2m3mnHR7omI99lbXaWAxv26Ev4zO/UKQ9rlIiZfZn+EPF9A fcXjLqgfaPS4L8Di9KbBWrAVOxf+4QgbfbqqHQ78t0zpHMULagSXPomYtyLBVs1XkZqt 7GY2WMP1ZvBXGa5aI/VKBouX0G8YDZgJt+uqlsbV55xpYFKo4iMo0u0UgiOI9rv1LVaU YpekkQJFQdPGD6c+7Fo1koxBMbZeHSgfqAfNEIryuMOd+PmZ1Z0xZisoNps8nsR5kQ0n 7+ZQ== Received: by 10.180.79.103 with SMTP id i7mr16251758wix.13.1349636123783; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.37] (dynamic-adsl-78-12-73-181.clienti.tiscali.it. [78.12.73.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ct3sm15368768wib.5.2012.10.07.11.55.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:55:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefano Rossi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 20:55:20 +0200 Message-Id: <5DF28740-BBF5-47EE-827B-DD712ABD0F62@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: dd zero on the wrong disk. ZFS over GELI on that disk, recover possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:55:25 -0000 Hello, I made a tremendous mistake with a "dd of=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada1" = command. ada1 was the wrong disk. The command was interrupted after a few seconds (I only wanted to erase = the partition table), and a "gpart create -s gpt ada1" was given before = I realized my mistake. On ada1 there was a single partition, type freebsd, which was labelled = HD4. /dev/label/HD4 was geli encrypted with a keyfile (I still have the = keyfile), and /dev/label/HD4.eli was a zpool (named HD4 too). Is there any way I could save at least some of the data on that zpool? I = know geli makes backup of the metadata, I must have them somewhere on my = root partition. Is there any way to recover the few lost megabytes at the start of the = disk? Or, would it be possible to recreate the same partition table with the = single partition, relabel it and restore the geli backup to the labelled = partition? Would then zfs recognize it? Please, if you have any idea share it with me, the data on that disk is = vital. Thank you very much. Stefano Rossi= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 21:09:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D21106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C078FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCAF5081F for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:09:44 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:09:44 -0700 Message-ID: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:09:46 -0000 I am impatient by nature. Nowadays, whenever I use portinstall/portupgrade, I use the --batch option, so that I don't have to sit around at the console, waiting for and then accepting the default build options for a boatload of depended-upon ports for whatever I am actually trying to install or upgrade. However there's one instance where I don't know how to get this functionality, i.e. the functionality provided by the --batch option. On this page: http://cnsnap.cn.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports-using.html in Section 4.5.4.2, a user who is just installing a new system is instructed to do the following: # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade # make install clean (You have to do this in order to get portinstall/portupgrade installed. These tools can then be used to build & install other ports.) The problem is that these days, portupgrade itself is, apparently, dependent upon a whole slew of other ports. So while building portupgrade itself it appears that there is currently no escape from having to sit at the console and accept a whole bunch of default options for the whole bunch of other ports upon which portupgrade itself depends. Or is there? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 21:40:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A529D106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E3E8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ADE3CCD5; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97LehWe006261; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:40:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:40:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Message-Id: <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> References: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:40:47 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:09:44 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Nowadays, whenever I use portinstall/portupgrade, I use the --batch > option, so that I don't have to sit around at the console, waiting > for and then accepting the default build options for a boatload of > depended-upon ports for whatever I am actually trying to install or > upgrade. A workaround (and not directly the answer to your question) is to process the config dialogs before starting the build: # make config-recursive Once set, the options won't be requested on a second run. According to "man 7 ports", there's a BATCH setting, but it is descibed as: If defined, only operate on a port if it can be installed 100% automatically. If the default settings are okay for you, simply "entering through" the dialogs should work fine. I don't see any other significant reference in the manpage, so using portinstall --batch (or portmaster's equivalent if you're using that tool) should be the best solution. > The problem is that these days, portupgrade itself is, apparently, > dependent upon a whole slew of other ports. Usually portmaster is considered an alternative, and instructions on how to use it to solve port changes are provided when an entry to /usr/ports/UPDATING is added. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:03:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD40106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D88FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKywM-0005Pk-E6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:03:10 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette tristatelogic.com> writes: > ... > However there's one instance where I don't know how to get this > functionality, i.e. the functionality provided by the --batch option. > ... There is no guarantee that either of those will work (try them separately): $ cat /etc/make.conf BATCH=yes # env BATCH=yes make jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:37:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03814106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35138FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKzTa-00005c-P9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:34 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:34 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:37:32 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:44:15 +0000, jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > >> On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: >> > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: >> > >> > >> > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: >> > > > Hi, >> > > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make >> > > > options) ? >> > > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? >> > > >> > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like >> > > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing >> > > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. >> > > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. >> > > ... >> > >> > It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, >> > prepackaged. >> >> Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come with a >> _separated_ build for all the components that have such a corresponding >> package, or is it simply not containing the binaries for the "other" >> components? >> ... > > For example, in Archlinux these are separate builds/packages: > > libreoffice-common > > libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress > libreoffice-writer > > libreoffice-sdk libreoffice-sdk-doc > > libreoffice-extension-nlpsolver libreoffice-extension-pdfimport > libreoffice-extension-presentation-minimizer > libreoffice-extension-presenter-screen libreoffice-gnome > libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-math libreoffice-postgresql-connector > libreoffice-scripting-javascript ... > > So, there is a lot of functionality thru modularity. > > For example, in CentOS (clone of RedHat) I can install > libreoffice-writer only, which pulls libreoffice-common, and perhaps > some extension packages (if so configured). Yes, but libreoffice-common is essentially the whole thing; libreoffice- base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress and libreoffice-writer are (relatively) small front ends. To all intents and purposes, Polytropon is right. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:57:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20CF106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9105B8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB250840 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:57:05 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:57:05 -0700 Message-ID: <15439.1349650625@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:57:06 -0000 In message <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: >A workaround (and not directly the answer to your question) is >to process the config dialogs before starting the build: > > # make config-recursive > >Once set, the options won't be requested on a second run. Hey! Wow! Thanks! That will work for me. Needless to say, I didn't know about that Makefile target, until now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:11:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A7A1065672 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C738FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TL00R-0004Z7-Ue for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:11:32 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:11:31 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:11:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:11:29 -0000 Walter Hurry gmail.com> writes: > ... > Yes, but libreoffice-common is essentially the whole thing; libreoffice- > base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress and > libreoffice-writer are (relatively) small front ends. > > To all intents and purposes, Polytropon is right. > ... Installed Size: libreoffice-common 224.7 MB libreoffice-base 7.2 MB libreoffice-calc 17.9 MB libreoffice-draw 48.0 KB libreoffice-impress 732.0 KB libreoffice-writer 11.2 MB libreoffice-sdk 26.2 MB libreoffice-sdk-doc 104.8 MB and not counting many other extensions. It may be relevant saving perhaps 100 MB when you compose CD functionality, and you want to offer Libreoffice Writer on it. Besides that, there is always a chance that one can look into the splits more deeply and discover that it can be done differently (better ?) and make libreoffice-common leaner, and offer some more stuff as separate packages or extensions packages. Who knows what FB office boyz could do with it if they really wanted. Anyway, the objective would be to be able to install each of components individually, as needed. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:15:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBFE1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-057.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3408FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q97NAXit084406; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:10:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20121007180748.05e44030@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:10:27 -0500 To: Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121007-2, 10/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q97NAXit084406 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:15:36 -0000 At 10:49 PM 10/6/2012, Bernt Hansson wrote: >Hello list! > >When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. > >kldload vboxdrv.ko >kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error > >Rebuilt VB and still this error > >8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 >GENERIC amd64 Check /boot/loader.conf or use kldload to load the module manually. kldstat will list the loaded modules. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:24:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0973106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7F18FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB23C27690; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:24:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97NOE0E006920; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:24:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:24:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Message-Id: <20121008012414.34fd6a65.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <15439.1349650625@tristatelogic.com> References: <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de> <15439.1349650625@tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:24:18 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:57:05 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de>, > Polytropon wrote: > > >A workaround (and not directly the answer to your question) is > >to process the config dialogs before starting the build: > > > > # make config-recursive > > > >Once set, the options won't be requested on a second run. > > Hey! Wow! Thanks! That will work for me. > > Needless to say, I didn't know about that Makefile target, until now. This target (and several other useful ones) are listed and explained in the manpage: "man 7 ports". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:01:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0648106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE88FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88CC50840 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20121008012414.34fd6a65.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:01:39 -0700 Message-ID: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:01:41 -0000 In message <20121008012414.34fd6a65.freebsd@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: ... >> > # make config-recursive ... >This target (and several other useful ones) are listed >and explained in the manpage: "man 7 ports". :-) Hey! Thanks again. I didn't know about that man page either! P.S. I'm actually doing an upgrade on the OS today (on one of my machines) also. I find that I have to re-read all the instructions for doing that each time, because I do it so infrequently that I forget the steps. The good news is that in the FreeBSD OS upgrade instructions, I found this: ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual intervention during the build process. (This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) So I guess that answers my original question! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:52:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CC01065670 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@sbcglobal.net) Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5C88FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [72.30.22.77] by nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 759447.80732.bm@omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 85351 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1349657515; bh=lg2Z6+hKmig3ZBIJAdEV+AojQkpO3SMwvLaG5d0J5GQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G9FqXBdAfl/EE8c8/gVdxWaaDvBC0XfrW3igx6OcTech/Tq3+t0UQXiKpSdbfF8nzO93ZQ86Rjn+nGy1FOGDL9i+kr1/IHSR1yaqB2tDm1A5Mcn0JIGIwHptFnfNVVRQLsGXpEusamp4Z/gHMOKza1q1gFVCE2j6gMAbsq0Rd/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lmsWH+39qI0KOXkiPndfRylVfVCRM4VOX8HKqCYOQJBPAOB0LPqluItETVEaELEo/Ujb8eOZwAm5pd7pWrriqzbHw1wyzBFurqRDEzpgyc04TevRdNXAV26zzInSt5hd0/DJjpL3uvUF8LPm3JDvTS264jAqjltGZBpR0iPSPQM=; X-YMail-OSG: CAn9Sq4VM1m5_bqELyphdFbge.Il2EgwSLukwlD4bzNS34i ZaGLO8s1IV1gIVT4J8eDVzrN1uO3QrAKKXnvfZyqzuO0OIAvVpJPf3Jy6EFE Vn6j0naunETdUJFlWxX4xzCLvfGpCMuZj6iF1w4Fo9JPLSVTPDF4d5AFwzmc 8P0qGDNU7l3Lpf8a.CAlVc.fjq7N4yt9rvx2AY0hPg5nZEZ4reLg0irI6DI0 z4Q0L14mDIlWFrwQsv.LvqPUkqblFA2CWbN.P_n2.Dprz1RdpsnzifxnBj1G uZORFcb4Vb3yzKzF_O6U2EpiXo89N36IuPryH0UxG5qZQzyzb8ruYQ5a34g_ gx_zU8KL6VRvLeXq9gli_y.3roYSRTMhq15jzCMwmnJQhGXPSY06HrogY8rF kSwRr_r7lJZGNTu9GhXu1pXNVq6YvwGZY.zYiMT5mGncsOHaGM1u5WOuWdUu LvM4vnILG_xhBHZIyjOJaUJeeDQ9z.ODa4b259ytzya4Jy6j5hKxFzkKzSJ4 qjbg. Received: from [75.37.1.111] by web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:51:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <1348983864.42502.YahooMailRC@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20120930081202.ea0b1af7.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <1349657515.80370.YahooMailRC@web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jin Guojun To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120930081202.ea0b1af7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-841283783-1789655809-1349657515=:80370" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:52:02 -0000 ---841283783-1789655809-1349657515=:80370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here are two DVDs burned by MS Windows. DVD1 is Visual Studio 2008 distributed by MS in UDF FS. mount_udf cannot mount it and mount_cd9660 can mount it but see only a readme.txt. % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 246:31.67 0 1109392 data 170 246:33.67 - 1109392 - - % file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'DVD1 DVD2 is burned under Windows XP by DVD utility in UFD FS. Although BSD file command does not recognize it, mount_udf can mount it correctly. It sounds like that we have issues in handling UDF FS. Attached are first two-page hexdump on both DVDs to help analyzing the problem. % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 0:18.26 0 1376 data 170 0:20.26 - 1376 - - % file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: data % ll /cdrom/4710/ total 3259 dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2048 May 23 17:52 ./ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 May 23 17:52 ../ -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 956262 May 23 17:36 ..-0003.amr -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 24576 May 23 17:45 ....-3.doc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 688384 May 23 17:39 RealPlayer_cn.exe ________________________________ From: Polytropon To: Jin Guojun Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sat, September 29, 2012 11:12:05 PM Subject: Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Jin Guojun wrote: > This problem seems having been there for a while, but was not pay > attention to it till now. > > Most DVDs burned under Windows machine cannot be mounted on FreeBSD > 8.3-R. It gives following error: > > # mount /cdrom > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument > > Some of those DVD can be mount, but no content can be found: > % df /cdrom > Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/acd0 4687968 4687968 0 100% /cdrom > % ll /cdrom > total 4 > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 112 Jul 13 2009 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 24 root wheel 512 Sep 25 23:11 ../ > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 135 Jul 13 2009 readme.txt* > > Searched bug report, but did not find related report. > Does anyone have seen this problem? If so, is any working around for > this problem? Cannot confirm that here, reading a various amount of data and media DVDs. Some of them are in ISO-9660 format, some of them are UDF. The reader is a cheap LiteOn drive, and OS version is 8.2-STABLE of last year. You can check a DVD's content by some tests before attempting to mount it. First check if they contain a data session, in this example it's a movie DVD from Russia: % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 222:10.26 0 999776 data 170 222:12.26 - 999776 - - Okay, one data track. Check _what_ data it is: % file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'NU POGODI' This media can be mounted like any data DVD, even if we assume a CD-9660 file system (commonly found on data CDs): # mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/acd0 /media/dvd # df -h /media/dvd Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/acd0 4.1G 4.1G 0B 100% /media/dvd # umount /media/dvd You could do some similar tests to see where you experience problems. It's quite possible that the DVDs made in "Windows" have some problems, e. g. not being closed, or having some strange data format that doesn't conform to the standard. Check if they contain a CD-9660 or a UDF file system, and which version it is. Note that FreeBSD also has a mount_udf command which could be working for those? When the CD-9660 file system is used, there are several extensions that help to deal with restrictions in the original specification (like file name length or depth of directory hierarchy). The standard is the RockRidge extension as used in many operating systems (or, to be correct, by many pre- mastering and burning tools), but "Windows" uses the "Joliet" extension. However, FreeBSD can understand both - _if_ they are properly done. 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with ESMTP id 39E0F8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n9so4446089oag.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:37:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wyh9BVSqfujkViuc/6F/EcdIHJPrsI3c+q358Lz0vuI=; b=Ic4ymWeHKkuW8JsbakpINI/EImUwjpj9aAXQtM3op6TOxgapRIUcryz7WFnZLSk7EF EEGI2Y3LLNJgG45WbrZFJOaCsHz8i3al9QIcez3SHnydmJppLLTd0NxvPXZARL/hqdcz nv52uHvq6jNAUJJ8OFbfJXFey0+GGPdUtKeKx99NcOQAFTWoR5lSTw+ZIzqwRiURAFzQ 0j95Hqnwhs7/uXh6NA95BqcgC2qDqv5WQuzJrYD2p2IwOYQSqths0xfMm7KjVseSmPya 7roMH9VbQizyGyoQhQzCekLBfPPTbka59p/MutKZI6ySJ0wHnjXgh9VfzI5a0XunTRZa O2VA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.7.65 with SMTP id h1mr3370594oea.66.1349660267952; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.233.39 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:37:47 +0800 Message-ID: From: zhang dahai To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: aobut mongodb update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:37:55 -0000 hi~master! I noticed the mongodb of port version is 2.0.6 in freebsd , but the mongodb latest version is 2.2.why port not update to new version? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 02:42:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFE0106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 02:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD21B8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 02:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38229 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2012 02:42:57 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2012 02:42:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50723db1.xn--btvx9d.k1208; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=QGy+/2tSbcw9GHKhTnG3acWOCgT1ZvCID79QLYTL2Ls=; b=trPWG39d7ndzQWXIAZKk0gdKjB6MoHU7wsbWd+jpqN93M9nUyIwb8cgoUhjt4gd3hYsWZO4iEGtPoHJ7CPQcWt15R6lCkkFseWLNx0yS6dXqRY+iRorSgpO1QcPEvHyoSTfhJ/WRvBOiPFRaa/dL2GR2FzYJpuCPwmJx2wR4Q7M= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 8 Oct 2012 02:42:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:42:58 -0000 > ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer > yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual > intervention during the build process. > >(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild. There are stil a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade. Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line shell script. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 04:08:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54F106566C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 04:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923B8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 04:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9848KMG010489 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9848K9Q010486 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: DVD OPC errors with growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 04:08:22 -0000 I'm using growisofs to write DVDs of backup files. Some combinations of older drives and newer media give ":-( unable to PERFORM OPC: Input/output error". Can limiting write speed avoid these errors? And what ways are there to detect the fastest speed supported by both drive and media? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 05:54:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C331C106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashkan82r@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0728FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so11058127iea.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4JkOoQyZT7LBmg2MjAtH1bMwBJXIBcIC+vavxtmbp/E=; b=Xaf4ILNwOuwYvGv7+tyaGJ9CdbDuHW8BqoS3rjelpTf6Sa6frwA4y/YQ6dUG9dFqLe ifpAJ/dC5n4JnVr4QxQWG8flcmUH4WNrEgiBMapY/Z+1ijY3rzBttWjuI1kugLExBfl2 7QLHPMwg4F2M6Sl7SOluZcx7zw2k5BttOOIau0C5OueNAZ68l/TQze9e0tYS7OCqVjA9 5DbnAahEYW1qhsIU83LVBgPj2jQ5VWyZQlU6n4ZmCt4zzTMW++R0FD3O5AoBVt31EY/9 zXSPCm++JhrmFGALQAwP9ELShwJLTz8px7tpCSMWdGPchMwLL5AdDxmQWfr6mxAl/5++ 9YnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.236.72 with SMTP id us8mr7087067igc.70.1349675685439; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.20.133 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:24:45 +0330 Message-ID: From: Ashkan Rahmani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: geforce 310m CUDA problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:54:46 -0000 hi I'm really interesting to switch from Linux to FreeBSD for my personal use. Currently I'm using Archlinux on my Asus K52J notebook. Unfortunately (for me of course) it has geforce 310m cuda 1gb VGA, and it seems this VGA is not supported by FreeBSD. After installing FreeBSD/PC-BSD resolution is about 800x600 and I can not change it. Color depth is also terrible. Configuring xorg.conf automatically or manually can not fix my problem. installing nvidia driver from ports also can not fix my problem. Notebook has NVIDIA Optimus technology and I don't know may be it's source of my problem or not. anybody know how I can solve this problem!? PS: my friend has a dell 1555 notebook, and FreeBSD work nice and soft on it! VGA is nvidia. my very old notebook (acer) has ATI vga and FreeBSD work well too! --- Best Regards, Ashkan R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 07:39:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDFA1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527D88FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:39:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAPWBclDLevdH/2dsb2JhbABFu2KER4IgAQEFOEEQCxgJExIPAkYGDQEHAQGIALhDi0+GEAOmGYMA Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2012 18:09:38 +1030 Message-ID: <50728184.60306@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:02:20 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120918 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ashkan Rahmani References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geforce 310m CUDA problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:39:40 -0000 On 08/10/2012 16:24, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > Unfortunately (for me of course) it has geforce 310m cuda 1gb VGA, > and it seems this VGA is not supported by FreeBSD. > > After installing FreeBSD/PC-BSD resolution is about 800x600 and I > can not change it. Color depth is also terrible. Configuring > xorg.conf automatically or manually can not fix my problem. > installing nvidia driver from ports also can not fix my problem. some ideas -- The release notes for nvidia-driver 304.51 lists the 310M as supported. Check that you have the latest version Maybe try with driver "nv" instead of nvidia to see if the issue is the driver. kldstat | grep nvidia to check that the nvidia kernel module has loaded. Is there any helpful info in Xorg.0.log Lines starting with (EE) are errors. (WW) warning lines may also be helpful. dmesg will show the startup log and may highlight any hardware detection problems. Have you installed x11/nvidia-settings? It is a gui app that should show you all available resolutions. The Xorg.conf from your archlinux install should produce the same results on FreeBSD. Or at least give hints to what is configured wrong. There is a chance that your linux install used a newer version of xorg - 1.7 is default in ports but you can set WITH_NEW_XORG to build 1.10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 08:43:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6906A1065676 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from secretary0613@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f68.google.com (mail-pa0-f68.google.com [209.85.220.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385B48FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f68.google.com with SMTP id fb11so1938413pad.7 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:43:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:reply-to:subject:date:importance :list-unsubscribe:disposition-notification-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:em-campaign:em-task; bh=qK8dkvemRt2w842Q1wya0FPGP9gl/yzPI3o3D1ZH9tU=; b=W+uBdsa4Vh/JSOfI8Aq5lrCdpi4NnCfHMiKt1wCXNxoUEVvcL9A8OB1yChQsjcQVEh mOIc8bH/YzOYNmABIG940dC4QguVc+F5Qf+aGTbEPI29Eb+UahcjyfxPHBmbMyIvEG9c TVSSZTwt0r9w8ZFmiViOrLgeRA/sLmKx0iu0uXO4r3q1GM4NacVAo6w6O6/5GWIg9mJu 0iyIGrvFNxigWNTga4nJ+Tq07xMH7jb73VD8Czysp6hcwrmVyJzrIRuQzemhZE10oscx T5l/Jp2iKT6xhyl56hOHQwXqZ5j3YQqFoWmIswLGmT6b+MMfiAKRuMjLsoeOasScQRZu S4QQ== Received: by 10.68.220.2 with SMTP id ps2mr51246123pbc.61.1349685828488; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 78523DC29DCF4E2 ([203.86.8.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm10543179pax.4.2012.10.08.01.43.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: juryviolin To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:43:44 +0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EM-Campaign: {9E20BB0B-7C94-4116-A9C1-035EB3C15594} EM-Task: 7 Cc: Subject: How are things? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: juryviolin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:43:49 -0000 Hi Hey.=20How=20are=20things?=20We=20may=20be=20getting=20down=20there=20to= =20your=20neck=20of=20the=20woods=20soon=20so=20maybe=20we=20can=20all=20go= =20grab=20a=20bite=20to=20eat=20or=20something.=20I=E2=80=99ll=20keep=20you= =20posted.=20Talk=20to=20you=20soon.=20 Lisa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 10:11:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6760106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bstone@aspirinsoftware.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E508FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id l39so3323575qcs.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=tzY0WVAzdMCP+HZNLFguRNeqz7xfn1NGM0QFyV1vZlg=; b=igRRAf/SdCEGq8h2BVh4wfHi0cIEFUU/JxexRgMxSG1JiXY3d69weSC12LOLS+vDOc Xupfsbrtscg0sESorSLrj0Eq2/cZ7OCRD4xNnqxGFZf2wIkmQHd0afyXrynISBHh08Cl 8wRKffj+2aA2HmTdez8tcu79FIpWlhFJRLy+DJ72zwEcIAIN28QR+scEf7KEqCHtxBuA zkhRvJEm3BDMIFtLeMZWB3zwtH7C3Td0MLKsVVf3QtfoAit6/I8aJeVgwSxjc/z0m9Jr eaiQWhaig8RGdePOg8qWTv+6U9QO3qkkaaLyIQ/8hUGCnp3VErA8WcZ6Dth7cqIyxpSD C8XQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.87.163 with SMTP id az3mr40423990qeb.8.1349691068701; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.104.71 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6E4F0E82-50D0-450A-A72A-3B7BD3795C5B@gmail.com> References: <20121005205748.GA39237@pcjas.obspm.fr> <6E4F0E82-50D0-450A-A72A-3B7BD3795C5B@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:11:08 +0800 Message-ID: From: Brad Stone To: "zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk4G0y4Du2121XzQVaf9nEUfjv/uDmU7nwIZVHsBC5oEGEuwXy/ROjcaPc1YNTo+dwkDWlv Cc: Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] How many disk in one pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:11:09 -0000 Here's an example of a ZFS-based product you can buy with a large number of disks in the volume: http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/petarack.htm 360 3T drives A full petabyte of storage (1080TB) in a single rack, under a single namespace or volume On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Albert Shih wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm actually running ZFS under FreeBSD. I've a question about how many >> disks I =ABcan=BB have in one pool. >> >> At this moment I'm running with one server (FreeBSD 9.0) with 4 MD1200 >> (Dell) meaning 48 disks. I've configure with 4 raidz2 in the pool (one o= n >> each MD1200) >> >> On what I understand I can add more more MD1200. But if I loose one MD12= 00 >> for any reason I lost the entire pool. >> >> In your experience what's the =ABlimit=BB ? 100 disk ? > > I can't speak for current FreeBSD, but I've seen more than 400 > disks (HDDs) in a single pool. > > -- richard > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 10:47:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3142F106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yh0-f54.google.com (mail-yh0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF32E8FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f54.google.com with SMTP id s35so834716yhf.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:47:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MCBb3tG8NcxAA2ni6gjGE+EVyycpwQx+vPq+JKblHG8=; b=rsJClxid2JVCDdu7+pRKs4sKIr499+wrsAl8CSNWu3gbKt1uXF8s1hCqZIDCy+GaGM 3arsuvjdiLwGoO4mr1Wmg9WxehNU/eDoR+xGIT/llD7vApNkJTm1R6j0CxX9EH2tE5rP wDgPJkDDXAQSJcsxrBID5RLtKeJQVB0a6TaPE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=MCBb3tG8NcxAA2ni6gjGE+EVyycpwQx+vPq+JKblHG8=; b=TyAAH/GjhOO+uIkAvI5oYm9puLeYzEwkuPejxBvCIKykMGxt3iqqdh/a9L4wc9dldV uEDnP4/jOCcFKhlrXzZi7q3gq1BtR53jJWzp0mSnANap9syGGdumqjUmtckZosgfvUiV IqqAu816MmERuWxT1Qt+z15cR04hCO46dFo1kQWBGkcyQ+WYEV231stgysL58TZxZUfz lJVSI1fCV7oeLqDFrVeDiqkcNnt5vVYL12n8dodtmebqAipp7o6Y/6H28BGAR8EVg3mN HqMbtcS+KPryP7tgKIyREboU+lT14O4UrdXrC94SaCiJleAR1C+/Jew/QUqlnu2ITGlF S3ig== Received: by 10.236.191.6 with SMTP id f6mr15160274yhn.126.1349693235397; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a6sm16721287anm.22.2012.10.08.03.47.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3XZyv41pfBz2CG5b for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:47:11 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20121008064711.507a402e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkFK8V8cZabD1eQJ6W1dEhb1ws8p22JFu8wgvSuvrFyp4Y97JD01ZSO9h0zJGLop8qEa13a Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:47:22 -0000 On 8 Oct 2012 02:42:33 -0000 John Levine articulated: > > ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will > > answer yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need > > for manual intervention during the build process. > > > >(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) > > Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and > does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild. There are stil > a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade. > > Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line > shell script. While you are at it, you might want to give "portmanager" a spin. While it can be a bit of a monster when used with the "-p" flag, I have found it capable of fixing problems and building ports that portupgrade and potmaster both choked on. As always, read the documentation thoroughly first. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ All's well that ends. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 10:52:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7969106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5808FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98AqQU8069778 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:52:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q98AqQCO069777 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:52:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:52:25 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121008105225.GB7670@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:52:36 -0000 [ John Levine wrote on Mon 8.Oct'12 at 2:42:33 -0000 ] > > ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer > > yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual > > intervention during the build process. > > > >(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) > > Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and > does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild. There are stil > a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade. > > Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line > shell script. Yes, I use this myself and it is very good. I used to use portupgrade but changed when I started using 9.x, i'm not sure why. But to learn it's 4000 line shell is quite amazing. Its author must have some excellent shell wizardry skills! :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 11:03:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72976106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp.eutelia.it (mp1-smtp-5.eutelia.it [62.94.10.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF178FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns2.biolchim.it (ip-188-188.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.188.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eutelia.it (Eutelia) with ESMTP id 49C65148DFF for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-17-176.41-151.net24.it [151.41.176.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns2.biolchim.it (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98AhoQq087730 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98AheCL034092 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <5072AE5C.9010209@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:43:40 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <505DA36E.406@netfence.it> <505DDCB5.2080801@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <505DDCB5.2080801@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ns2.biolchim.it [192.168.2.203]); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Chesar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:03:30 -0000 On 09/22/12 17:43, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >> I'm using tomcat-6.0.35 and openjdk6-b24_4, if that helps. > > I'll try openjdk either with tomcat6 or 7. Hi Michale. I finally got around trying openjdk, but that didn't work either. I also tried within a jail (which I created from scratch), just to be sure there was no conflict, but nothing changes. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 11:21:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB581065673 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802B8FC22 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [84.44.210.110] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TLBOM-0007tM-ED; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:20:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:33:41 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20121008113341.2f040b54@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD OPC errors with growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:21:23 -0000 --Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren Block wrote: > I'm using growisofs to write DVDs of backup files. Some combinations of= =20 > older drives and newer media give ":-( unable to PERFORM OPC:=20 > Input/output error". If you are concerned about this, you could try cdrecord to see if it makes a difference. =20 > Can limiting write speed avoid these errors? That depends on both the drive and the media. It's also possible that it makes matters worse, though. It's a myth that reducing speed guarantees better results. > And what ways are there to= =20 > detect the fastest speed supported by both drive and media? The drive is supposed to figure it out on its own. If your drive supports it, you can use readcd to measure how well burned media can be read and do a couple of experiments with various burn speeds to see if it affects the results for your drives and the media you care about. Fabian --Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBynfoACgkQBYqIVf93VJ0v3gCgxeybXGwqUVZBeveNOmIPkg8y vxwAoKFEo7cbkp/ZQ3YFd9MKXOkU1dnQ =s17w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:14:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CD61065672 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D258FC23 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z9so1682324dad.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:user-agent:x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=LqTfY662b7gF9mGzvBsVu95zY7nFjIW//BxYOhGXg5w=; b=VBfQEOCL18V2v9bK1v6dwcoy81Q3dHxmQz55tCCyP+2r2gAvnkFCOEVYDzIZyWubXb PjaY5LkjSylbtUctsB4DV/n8jVDpF1zBrXBiSj0qnm2OnWJzlHQpK828ZWQJInyFQMHk KA7betUJPTgRVc8iS5u2mWrYw14/P/ppRs86XNdEDOhzAhGR1mQ/YUuJVrQmKZc8eh2o +/xJl02Ppe/7noTjK16cznjUj+yI1GOlQOiLYnUcZeotrkwE8ZegJIJsEVGfQkcj1DXX Ze97rRMkUDteiioFdEYOIaFdgp35hcMsM6n8n2bnQ7TjHw4sagAbC45gtMkKNxVewOvm 6uFQ== Received: by 10.68.234.232 with SMTP id uh8mr52772365pbc.94.1349698488720; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([123.117.46.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id it5sm10656814pbc.10.2012.10.08.05.14.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:14:39 +0800 Message-ID: <86lifhma8g.fsf@venux.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Do I need to use sysutils/ataidle to avoid high LCC for my hard drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:14:49 -0000 Hi list. I am currently running FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE on my laptop. And I am wondering if I still need to use sysutiles/ataidle to avoid high Load Cyle Count for my hard drive. Is there still a need to run this utility to avoid LCC under FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE? Thanks for your attention! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:16:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68184106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED09C8FC22 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [84.44.210.110] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TLCFe-0003G0-DH; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:16:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:13:29 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Stefano Rossi Message-ID: <20121008141329.45b6396b@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <5DF28740-BBF5-47EE-827B-DD712ABD0F62@gmail.com> References: <5DF28740-BBF5-47EE-827B-DD712ABD0F62@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd zero on the wrong disk. ZFS over GELI on that disk, recover possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:16:09 -0000 --Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefano Rossi wrote: > I made a tremendous mistake with a "dd of=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada1" com= mand. ada1 was the wrong disk. Ooops ... > The command was interrupted after a few seconds (I only wanted to erase t= he partition table), and a "gpart create -s gpt ada1" was given before I re= alized my mistake. > On ada1 there was a single partition, type freebsd, which was labelled HD= 4. /dev/label/HD4 was geli encrypted with a keyfile (I still have the keyfi= le), and /dev/label/HD4.eli was a zpool (named HD4 too). >=20 > Is there any way I could save at least some of the data on that zpool? I = know geli makes backup of the metadata, I must have them somewhere on my ro= ot partition. >=20 > Is there any way to recover the few lost megabytes at the start of the di= sk? > Or, would it be possible to recreate the same partition table with the si= ngle partition, relabel it and restore the geli backup to the labelled part= ition? Would then zfs recognize it? The geli and glabel meta data is located at the end of the partition so it shouldn't be affected by the dd if you only deleted a couple of MBs at the beginning of the disk. If you previously weren't using a gpt layout on ada1, however, the gpart call might have corrupted the meta data for both in which case you'll have to recreate it. If the glabel meta data wasn't corrupted, the label should show up again once you recreated the partition at the previous position. If the label shows up, it's likely that the geli meta data isn't affected either and you can try to geli attach the provider and import the zpool. After a zpool scrub you'll know which files were damaged. If the label doesn't show up after the partition table has been corrected, you'll first have to recreate a label and "geli restore" the meta data as documented in geli(8). I'd recommend that you backup the whole disk and work on the backup until you know that the recovery process works. This would allow you to use zfs snapshots to be able to quickly rollback the backup if you need several attempts to get the partition layout right and decreases the chances that the damage gets worse. Out of curiosity I just experimented with a 1 GB disk where the label was on md0s1 which was created with "gpart add" using the whole disk and could thus easily be recreated: fk@r500 ~ $ls /dev/label/recovery-test=20 /dev/label/recovery-test fk@r500 ~ $zogftw cmd zogftw_clear_device /dev/md0 2012-10-08 13:48:51 zogftw: Clearing /dev/md0. Feel free to abort this with= ctrl-C ^C28+0 records in 27+0 records out 28311552 bytes transferred in 3.715472 secs (7619907 bytes/sec) fk@r500 ~ $ls /dev/label/recovery-test=20 ls: /dev/label/recovery-test: No such file or directory fk@r500 ~ $sudo gpart create -s GPT /dev/md0 md0 created fk@r500 ~ $sudo gpart add -t freebsd /dev/md0 md0s1 added fk@r500 ~ $ls /dev/label/recovery-test=20 /dev/label/recovery-test fk@r500 ~ $zogftw import 2012-10-08 13:49:57 zogftw: recovery-test's location isn't registered yet! 2012-10-08 13:49:57 zogftw: No pool name specified. Trying all unattached l= abels: recovery-test=20 2012-10-08 13:49:57 zogftw: No geli keyfile found at /home/fk/.config/zogft= w/geli/keyfiles/recovery-test.key. Not using any. You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: "Fabian Keil " 4096-bit ELG-E key, ID 351A59E5, created 2006-08-19 (main key ID BF2EA563) 2012-10-08 13:50:04 zogftw: recovery-test attached 2012-10-08 13:50:09 zogftw: recovery-test imported fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool status recovery-test pool: recovery-test state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an unrecoverable error. An attempt was made to correct the error. Applications are unaffected. action: Determine if the device needs to be replaced, and clear the errors using 'zpool clear' or replace the device with 'zpool replace'. see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-9P scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM recovery-test ONLINE 0 0 0 label/recovery-test.eli ONLINE 0 0 116 errors: No known data errors # Apparently a bunch of ZFS meta data was corrupted but could be # corrected, scrub the whole pool to see what else got damaged. fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool scrub recovery-test fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool status recovery-test pool: recovery-test state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an error resulting in data corruption. Applications may be affected. action: Restore the file in question if possible. Otherwise restore the entire pool from backup. see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-8A scan: scrub repaired 1.52M in 0h0m with 3601 errors on Mon Oct 8 13:51:2= 3 2012 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM recovery-test ONLINE 0 0 3.52K label/recovery-test.eli ONLINE 0 0 7.78K errors: 3601 data errors, use '-v' for a list fk@r500 ~ $zpool list recovery-test NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT recovery-test 1016M 442M 574M 43% 1.00x ONLINE - Your mileage may vary ... Fabian --Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlByw2sACgkQBYqIVf93VJ24FgCgyhKVSRUxUGkaAid1bq5HoO8M KkcAnj9NGw6+00b61MCXWxgJDwN+FfUP =rUoJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:45:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95471065673 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E21E8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so2646412lag.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:45:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oQk5hH+HQ6/4uJ5V+cmEzbdxCV+uOFOJB6G18BilXO4=; b=yJlbCkiVCDtCB7j2kFjTXLsNumQ1gVZ5yhEu9QKbbDbuMUcSLX6PqsLLQuSyJpDqEi +/CFGK6YOu/w0eGXADrMQavZttpRTCHRyz1MyRFFBJNCLtkmc5XHz8HdIPWAODtnbpRM 2l9UIv2G/L8DOjDgjtl0RXhc+Lbvrr2OBI6ozcNHBLe+fqyo7bgyp/PpI6Mg3ovru3hb vNnZ2waweM+1ZrjruNitGx6oaKx51RWoJayJzGi7d8YmCdKbA28M5wkRDKvdsddOEM60 jAHP1cDmyws8RT3QuV51+3Dukk5WPV35FGHINrBUwNC2edZLNyDIv4tfGZ4I2MURUyoL 0Vyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.24.74 with SMTP id s10mr6706701lbf.122.1349700322945; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.144.198 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:45:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: S80wwVm2yPct-HYhTJv3KyCf7JA Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Building a release with custom packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:45:24 -0000 Hi All, If anyone has interest, I have a new blog post on building a FreeBSD release with custom packages at http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/08/building-freebsd-media-with-custom-packages/ -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:58:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535981065672 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C248FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TLCuK-0008C6-EY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:04 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:04 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:58:02 -0000 jb gmail.com> writes: > ... A follow up. I e-mailed FB office boyz and received a response, which is safe to share with the list: " Baptiste Daroussin bapt@freebsd.org This is almost not doable for many reason: 1/ the ports itself will be over complicated to only allow compiler some part of libreoffice imho (that is the main reason I didn't make it at first 2/ splitting the build won't give you much 3/ what linux distributions do it splitting the result of the build, not the build itself, and the ports tree does not allow this for the moment. regards, Bapt " Well, if you have an opinion make it count now when this stuff is discussed. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 13:01:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C89106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ziyan@ce.pdn.ac.lk) Received: from hantana.pdn.ac.lk (unknown [IPv6:2401:dd00:30::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291A38FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postfix.local (neumann.ce.pdn.ac.lk [10.40.18.5]) by hantana.pdn.ac.lk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DB35C04F for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:31:00 +0530 (LKT) Received: from [192.168.1.240] (unknown [112.135.60.196]) by postfix.local (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F175611F6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:30:59 +0530 (IST) From: Ziyan Maraikar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:30:58 +0530 Message-Id: <5ED48B8E-D375-447F-9F4C-267CF7834E30@ce.pdn.ac.lk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Subject: Serial console getty broken after upgrading to 9.1-RC2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:01:02 -0000 Hello all,=20 I had a working serial console setup on Freebsd 9.0 for remote access = via my HP server's BMC serial console. I recently built and installed = 9.1-RC2 on a separate dataset on this machine's ZFS pool and merged in = my existing configuration from 9.0.=20 On 9.1-RC2 I no longer get a login prompt. However, I still do have = access to the loader prompt and can see the kernel boot messages on the = serial console. I built my GENERIC kernel and world using clang with = default flags. I see that the kernel identifies the serial port getty = has spawned on the port. # dmesg |grep uart=20 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0=20= uart0: console (115200,n,8,1)=20 # ps axl|grep ttyu0=20 0 5405 1 0 20 0 11996 1416 ttyin Is+ u0 0:00.00 = /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyu0=20 Here are the relevant configuration bits I copied over from 9.0 setup = that works:=20 /etc/ttys:=20 ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" screen-256color on secure=20 /boot/loader.conf:=20 boot_multicons=3D"YES"=20 boot_serial=3D"YES"=20 comconsole_speed=3D"115200"=20 console=3D"comconsole,vidconsole"=20 # kenv |grep uart.0=20 hint.uart.0.at=3D"isa"=20 hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x10"=20 hint.uart.0.irq=3D"4"=20 hint.uart.0.port=3D"0x3F8"=20 Have there been any changes to the serial console setup in 9.1 or has = anybody else experienced similar problems?=20 __=20 Thanks,=20 Ziyan.=20= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 14:31:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2B106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karolis.eigelis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FDB8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so12366748iea.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RJ9vIc+YrLup9hv7BLqeHChmknwp1gP59KKFw9qzPXs=; b=vhht+wU1/KZNUCqSpRYxT59yBaEXAh6DaVZeQsq6hu4kQ+Pn3ZH9g0t1eNmlGVOhID 64ClUkiTIClXt6hFyogEsSvwIftqSr2VgcNXAYQViQNDVACHj58aPuxssV617opzZIPM TKSu4+5HWwUJnIiYTTQ0xyrBDExhzxw4Ap+iPU3jsYp4Xo5Gu6X6lnHjvEdZ9uJcPwwO 4Kc5cOq6VG2UkTiPzrlySlNmGzWywY8Xwe62P3YS1si0NNKVS/u+TAmRod8q8hGqrInG aNcIyRCfKHbsexkHowslhLIFClGEdHYN2MUE9SjpTbrNFHfAPOnsWmTNpg8K1g8iq9bi 1qKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.193 with SMTP id vy1mr7970375igb.46.1349706664317; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.189.167 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: Karolis Eigelis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 4k alignment for attaching new disk to zfs mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:31:11 -0000 Hi, Before creating a pool i setup two disks mirror with gnop trick to have ashift=12 - 4k pool alignment. I also did that for the disk partitions (gpt -a 4k option) to have partitions 4k alignment (diskinfo -v disk shows stripesize=4096 for both disks). Now i replaced one disk with a new one, but cant get the diskinfo or gpart list to display stripesize=4096 - did everything as usual (gpt -a 4k for partitions). Or do i have to re-create my pool with gnop trick again ? Do you have an idea if that at all is needed ? Some other information i found says that as long as pool is 4k alignment is done (ashif=12) you do not need to do 4k alignment for new disk for partitions with gpart -a 4k option. Could someone please comment on that ? Many Thanks, Karolis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:12:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1331065672 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC178FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLEhc-0000gl-Bu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:53:04 +0200 Received: from [10.2.1.187] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLEhc-0000gi-2K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:53:04 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:52:24 +0200 X-Originator: 193.6.63.109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FreeBSD update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:12:27 -0000 Hello: I=20updated=20FreeBSD=209.0=20RELEASE (FreeBSD=20=209.0-RELEASE=20FreeBSD=209.0-RELEASE=20#0:=20Tue=20Jan=20=20= 3=2007:15:25=20UTC=202012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC=20=20i386) using=20freebsd-update=20fetch=20and=20freebsd-update=20install=20command= s. 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Regards, Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:24:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71600106566C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315EB8FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDC446094 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:14:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5072EDCC.4040303@bnrlabs.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:14:20 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:24:30 -0000 Hi, I've seen the term "in-core" a couple times while reading up about BSD disk labels. Does it refer to data that is cached in kernel memory ? Context examples : - fdisk(8) outputs "parameters extracted from in-core disklabel" - bsdlabel(8)'s manual explains that the -n (dry run) parameter "does not install the new label either in-core or on-disk". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:25:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A9106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF768FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLFCZ-0003bE-F0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:25:03 +0200 Received: from [10.2.1.173] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLFCZ-0003bB-5x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:25:03 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2f649b2d.5934b132.5072f028.6dfd0@lajt.hu> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:24:24 +0200 X-Originator: 193.6.63.109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: proxy setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:25:37 -0000 Hello: My=20FreeBSD=209.0-RELEASE=20system=20is=20behind=20a=20institutional=20f= irewall. 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Thanks, Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:29:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67781106566C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37D88FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-62-216-215-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.215.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98FTmqo021271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D346F4EC for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fechner.net Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UASJfw2Cx--4 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from matthias-fechners-macbook.local (ppp-62-216-215-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.215.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D62406F4E2 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:29:46 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (anny.lostinspace.de [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:29:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: ZFS and zpool mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:29:59 -0000 Dear list, I installed a freebsd with freebsd on a zfs root and only one disk: pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 This disk was now insterted into the computer and boots fine. The next step I wanted was to setup a mirror with a second disk. So I inserted a second disk, configured everything with gpart and added the disk to the zroot with: zpool add zroot gpt/disk1 (I think I had to execute zpool add zroot mirror gpt/disk1, this is not clear from the man page) And now I have a problem, it seems not to be a mirror but a stripe: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 Is there any chance to get it into a mirror? I don't think there was anything written to the second disk but I cannot remove it anymore. Has anyone a tip for me, howto convert the stripe to a mirror? Thanks, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:33:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD42106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karolis.eigelis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9838FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so12602250iea.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kfnD7IrjO1FK/R0K19NCaiS7K6iwOUOC3hU6Tl0wPjs=; b=RDQFDfrBR4j1LIP26zFxHD1tBs+Yzv7BwryT5WsOrRITwPJdqiyREmsMNrGLoRJejf IXupwtwghW/sX+oMtyUX0TS1Jnipg2/9T0RvckIf1TEHJgMCIboEHsKno7mteFCqhhCZ 51YXbvO9aL17vYhzzUD8zDpa6lJcoWMwn1LJKuobaxCN3PT+njvfE06B9wwPG5/MjWG6 DsqO5TngTbDjWM+1Twbhw/gu+A2r/jBrjD+dsU8kmmFqIV57mlXaJd3BoW0CVBJ3j/FW X63Wte0Foi+bt0gLJrzrBJz+4YurT4E3l2c+2EPwgeEQIaWdvlwUL/8jznT9mcf9OTJt +dbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.159.198 with SMTP id xe6mr6416357igb.46.1349710419888; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.189.167 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> References: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:33:39 +0200 Message-ID: From: Karolis Eigelis To: Matthias Fechner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS and zpool mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:33:41 -0000 if you want a mirror you need to do "attach" a new disk :) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Dear list, > > I installed a freebsd with freebsd on a zfs root and only one disk: > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > This disk was now insterted into the computer and boots fine. > The next step I wanted was to setup a mirror with a second disk. > > So I inserted a second disk, configured everything with gpart and added > the disk to the zroot with: > zpool add zroot gpt/disk1 > (I think I had to execute zpool add zroot mirror gpt/disk1, this is not > clear from the man page) > > And now I have a problem, it seems not to be a mirror but a stripe: > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > Is there any chance to get it into a mirror? > > I don't think there was anything written to the second disk but I cannot > remove it anymore. > > Has anyone a tip for me, howto convert the stripe to a mirror? > > Thanks, > Matthias > > -- > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to > produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- > Rich Cook > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:35:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119CF106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ACC78FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Oct 2012 15:35:52 -0000 Received: from port-92-206-34-14.dynamic.qsc.de (EHLO CoreI5) [92.206.34.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 08 Oct 2012 17:35:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18YHvcfl3oYhmW0YURoFFfuW6lxTwmDnVvE8HlgT+ NJJXFdPu99afZ/ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:35:51 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Istvan Gabor Message-Id: <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> References: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:35:55 -0000 On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:52:24 +0200 Istvan Gabor wrote: > As I remember correctly during the fetch I saw a message that the current patch level is p4. > After rebooting the computer uname gives p3 on the updated system: > > Why does uname reports p3 while freebsd-update indicates p4 state? Hi, if freebsd-update does not update the kernel uname will not show the 'correct' patch level. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:18:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97310656C1 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558968FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TLG2O-0001wy-OS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:18:37 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:18:36 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:18:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: portmaster backup package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:18:35 -0000 Hi, what to do with that backup package (-b option) after installation of new port failed ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:23:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA281065744 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793F98FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q98GMqLH029828; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:22:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:22:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lbc@bnrlabs.com In-Reply-To: <5072EDCC.4040303@bnrlabs.com> Cc: Subject: Re: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:23:20 -0000 > Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:14:20 +0200 > From: "Lucas B. Cohen" > Subject: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? > > Hi, > > I've seen the term "in-core" a couple times while reading up about BSD > disk labels. Does it refer to data that is cached in kernel memory ? > > Context examples : > > - fdisk(8) outputs "parameters extracted from in-core disklabel" > > - bsdlabel(8)'s manual explains that the -n (dry run) parameter "does > not install the new label either in-core or on-disk". 'cached' is not _technically_ exactly accurate, but you have the concept basically correct. The O/S reads the label information and stores it in an internal data structure, Then, when it needs to use that data (frequently!:) it uses the values in that internal structure, rather than attempting to re-read from the disk, itself. Technically, it's _not_ "cached" -- cached data is used to short-circuit a 'read' attempt, using an in-memory block of byte instead of an actual disk transfer. The -effect- is similar, but there are *important* differences. 'Cache' data is integrated with I/O operations, and a _write_ to the place where the data was read from -invalidates- the cached data, whereupon, the next read attempt will *not* be short-circuited, and the actual on-disk data will be returned. In the case of the disk label, it is read (once) into the internal data structure, and only the internal data is used after that. A userland app can change the 'on disk' data -- or trash it completely -- and what the O/S "thinks" the label info is will NOT be affected by that change to the 'on disk' data. The warnings you see in the documentation, are reminders that the O/S's 'internal' data and the 'on disk' data are *NOT* necessarily the same. That looking at _one_ source of that data does *not* guarantee that what you see =there= is the same as what is in the other place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:27:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D4E106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457768FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=rpi-1.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TLG60-0008LR-NZ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:22:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by rpi-1.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TLGBr-0001xf-BN; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:28:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:26:50 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Matthias Fechner Message-Id: <20121008172650.04011d5a18d710af8d1f23b0@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> References: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS and zpool mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:27:00 -0000 On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:29:46 +0200 Matthias Fechner wrote: > Dear list, > > I installed a freebsd with freebsd on a zfs root and only one disk: > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > This disk was now insterted into the computer and boots fine. > The next step I wanted was to setup a mirror with a second disk. > > So I inserted a second disk, configured everything with gpart and added > the disk to the zroot with: > zpool add zroot gpt/disk1 > (I think I had to execute zpool add zroot mirror gpt/disk1, this is not > clear from the man page) You need add for a stripe and attach for a mirror. > And now I have a problem, it seems not to be a mirror but a stripe: > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > Is there any chance to get it into a mirror? > > I don't think there was anything written to the second disk but I cannot > remove it anymore. Yep once you've added a stripe there's no way to remove it. You'll have to copy the data off somewhere and then rebuild the pool. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:49:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F9B1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663418FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-144.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.144]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FA52775A; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:49:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q98GnHfZ002937; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:49:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:49:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20121008184917.351b29af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster backup package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:49:25 -0000 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Hi, > what to do with that backup package (-b option) after installation of new port > failed ? Install it with pkg_add? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 18:35:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41DF106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8299C8FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5460339821 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:30 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ozwbLq7OXaIS for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id BCBFC3981F; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 76.20.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee (76.20.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee [90.190.20.76]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:29:28 +0300 Message-ID: <20121008212928.10685a2gxotv2lc0@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:29:28 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 90.190.20.76 Cc: Subject: A strange regression in curl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:35:10 -0000 Hello! We have a web application running on FreeBSD 7.4 (amd64) which uses libcurl to send data to another system via HTTPS POST request. After I upgraded curl from 7.19.6 to 7.24, a mysterious problem appeared. When the length of the POSTed form exceeds 16121 bytes, sending the POST request to another system fails (receiving system responds with Error 500 and writes in its log 'Invalid POST Request received'). Admin of the receiving system says that his system never sees more than 16121 bytes of the incoming POST request. The problem does not appear when sending requests over HTTP instead of HTTPS, but this is no solution due to security requirements. Also I'm told that the problem does not appear when sending requests with curl 7.24 on Linux (don't know which distro). I downgraded curl back to 7.21.3, and the problem seems to have disappeared. I have output of curl --trace from versions 7.24 and 7.21.3, but looking at these two outputs they seem rather similar to me. Interesting thing is that both versions do seem to send the data in two "batches", as seen in the output of --trace. In my test case, after successful SSL negotioation, I see the following actions: Send header, 263 bytes Send data, 16121 bytes Send data, 890 bytes Note how the first "Send data" is 16121 bytes, which is also the size limit where requests start to fail with curl 7.24. It seems that in case of curl 7.24 the receiving server does not receive the second part of "Send data" and thus sees the request as broken. But what is actually the problem? I don't think I can remain with curl 7.21.3 indefinitely... -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 07:11:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA737262 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.phillip10@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF68FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so7524011vcb.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UkKdRghmJtCShymVgKu1TEgaKz7/+fF2DDi6xFz1xhg=; b=cAiCNRaKO7aDj6F2S1Yh1QHzo84tPfqzc8wxE/GwEy3mheEBkPjr4tiwP8LFJ45HIV jy+E1iZuOIh0wDpXAHDF6fP1b+Qw7w2/P42lPZ+2fTD3aqpBoKw0vJLe8oYfzUPRMEaZ SqAWBq+/AA1plXq5z8kxFL8ypwmV130p21sSJQEGqRyYHSK1qPBSPKX71xvup2yqvBaX Vii3wjpgYDBMt735Hx0tCULgS5XLC49ax+BoN+0Bti2n8pLan5tCEK21Avm7Oj8PAUXV A8ViWgUfmUs86UTTC1tkhRzxNHqrUcgGoMBH21C2nnp8ywTttSqkp20CcVd9r3cOJa0L CXIQ== Received: by 10.58.186.226 with SMTP id fn2mr579993vec.33.1349753208254; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:26:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.181.134 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Phillip Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:56:18 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Request to Add Website Details- Hardware Section To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:11:53 -0000 Dear Webmaster, We have been manually researching for relevant partners and found your website very useful. 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Thanks Joe Webmaster From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 09:48:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A833AC0D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1288FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLWPd-0002H0-Nr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:41 +0200 Received: from [10.2.1.173] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLWPd-0002Gx-7T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:41 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_FreeBSD_update?= From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> References: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7acef32e.2caae151.5073f296.83c70@lajt.hu> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:02 +0200 X-Originator: 193.6.63.109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:48:17 -0000 2012.=20okt=C3=B3ber=208.=2017:35=20napon=20Andreas=20Rudisch=20<"cyb."@g= mx.net>=20=C3=ADrta: >=20On=20Mon,=2008=20Oct=202012=2016:52:24=20+0200 >=20Istvan=20Gabor=20=20wrote: >=20 >=20>=20As=20I=20remember=20correctly=20during=20the=20fetch=20I=20saw=20= a=20message=20that=20the=20current=20patch=20level=20is=20p4. >=20>=20After=20rebooting=20the=20computer=20uname=20gives=20p3=20on=20th= e=20updated=20system: >=20> >=20>=20Why=20does=20uname=20reports=20p3=20while=20freebsd-update=20indi= cates=20p4=20state? >=20 >=20Hi, >=20 >=20if=20freebsd-update=20does=20not=20update=20the=20kernel=20uname=20wi= ll=20not=20show=20the >=20'correct'=20patch=20level. >=20 >=20Andreas Thanks=20Andreas. 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Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 10:26:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10D876 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A768FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q99AQISp084348; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:26:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5073FB19.2070705@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:23:21 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120901 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Hughes Subject: Re: Virtualbox References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> <20121008200502.10bdc29a@TheHughesLogcabin.net> In-Reply-To: <20121008200502.10bdc29a@TheHughesLogcabin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:26:28 -0000 2012-10-09 03:05, Michael Hughes skrev: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:49:19 +0200 > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Hello list! >> >> When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. >> >> kldload vboxdrv.ko >> kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error >> >> Rebuilt VB and still this error >> >> 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 >> GENERIC amd64 >> >> > > Are you using a PAE kernel? If so you will get this error when truing > to load the vboxdrv.ko. > No PAE kernel. Updated source mon 8 oct 2012. Deinstalled virtualbox and virtualbox-kmod, rebuilt both but the problem persists. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 10:28:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC78AC for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78CCB8FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Oct 2012 10:28:13 -0000 Received: from port-92-206-144-231.dynamic.qsc.de (EHLO CoreI5) [92.206.144.231] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 09 Oct 2012 12:28:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LFLdGAEsLYF3OtgMHZN1Tia/HSMx+jFct13hioc ShuJZdJjUOca4D Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:28:06 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Istvan Gabor Subject: Re: FreeBSD update Message-Id: <20121009122806.bfbc77cae06b6a5416cf8164@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <7acef32e.2caae151.5073f296.83c70@lajt.hu> References: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> <7acef32e.2caae151.5073f296.83c70@lajt.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:28:21 -0000 On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:02 +0200 Istvan Gabor wrote: > FreeBSD Handbook (at the end of section 25.2.2) says: > > "However, freebsd-update will always update the /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh file. > The current patch level (as indicated by the -p number reported by uname -r) is obtained > from this file. Rebuilding your custom kernel, even if nothing else changed, will allow > uname(1) to accurately report the current patch level of the system." > > From this I conclude that if I rebuild the kernel (the general kernel, not a custom kernel), > it should reflect patch level correctly. Yes. > This raises another question: are the updates made sequentially, as p1, p2, etc.? > This would explain why the kernel stayed at p3 level while the system was updated to > p4. Yes. > I Suppose if the update was done in one step after fetching and applying all > update patches the kernel should reflect the system's patch level. Is this correct? Well, it 'should', but it does not, since freebsd-update does not work that way. p4 did not require rebuilding the kernel, so it had not been done. > I am confused a little bit. Feel free to browse the mailing lists, you are not the first one to be confused. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 10:35:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B3DCF9 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758BC8FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so14699258iea.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qTfCIWgBol3HNUR5yYf5EAc7ZeHHkd90MI8VMZ5ylPI=; b=DxIPn910OXXjC3+wtz4DTdPCP6lj9FPvCUe6iFPGLH+CFIK5MJHddjUxlGGJmj/hYy aeh9a71p8wvhsmXJM7NkwfUg1PH62j5jh8VNOS8tzd7DeTNvRWIU9/60r/8End7Wr1s/ h+BvTX6x35TbR5e/uIBdjeLZS5Gscw1jXNugz/sLuEMCH97843pewvJR5rLIf1bPDC/w IhJ6fiTMwAUohtESIlLdC2QMATha3FoHtp6Ovsvbzi/UPdalaFOHsA4k/sM4XSpikelb IQeyBHbBsNlzQNXSQgVo3V9va+ijtECzOeVUyGcPk5fEsH2Hcp93h8lPnMCayR4uwO8P 615Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.104.200 with SMTP id dn8mr15044890icc.43.1349778947697; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.49.67 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.176.81] In-Reply-To: <20121008232937.72dff7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121008232937.72dff7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:35:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unlocking HDD ATA password From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmgC5HcZaG1dgoV6qSk1IXYL4V/pDFJx6657ovC/mng2O3P46qIi150ePzaprDgk+VoGnVn Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:35:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have a question regarding the use (or the "make usable again") > of hard disks locked with ATA password: I have a Samsung disk > (2.5" with PATA interface) and approx. 160 GB capacity which > is locked by some ATA password which nobody knows. > > What tool is to be used in FreeBSD to transmit the password to > the unit in order to "wake it up"? camcontrol(8) maybe? After some patching? http://blog.multiplay.co.uk/2011/08/freebsd-security-support-for-ata-devices-via-camcontrol/ I have not tried it and don't know if it is what you need; I just found it while googling. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 11:46:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27BA882 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2358FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F66450840 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 04:46:26 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Audio out via HDMI... how? Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:46:26 -0700 Message-ID: <28733.1349783186@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:46:33 -0000 I have a laptop which has an HDMI output port. I can get video out of that (with xbmc) just fine. Audio, not so much. Like not at all, as far as I can tell. So anyway, here is what I get when I do "cat /dev/sndstat": pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play) I have the HDMI output wired into my everything-capable Sony 5.1 channel receiver, which then in turn is wired into my 4 (count 'em four) speakers. OK, so now, could somebody please just tell me how I can do a test that will determine why I ain't gettin' no audio? The receiver is capable of decoding 5.1 DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, and eveything else too. It is working just fine.. not a thing wrong with it. It works great with my Blu-Ray player and does the digital->analog decoding for anything and everything I throw at it. Again, I just want to know how to _test_ doing some output to that from my laptop, via HDMI. I tried these things, but not a sound was heard: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp2 The FreeBSD handbook page that deal with setiing up audio cards doesn't provide a whole lot of guidance for how to test and/or fix digital audio output, whether it is coming out via HDMI (as in my case) or via any other kind of physical transport (e.g. coax or S/PDIF). Somwebody please pass me a clue. I'd really like to get this working. Thanks. P.S. If I have to downmix to 2ch in xbmc before the audio even hits the HDMI cable, I could even live with that. Bu right now, as far as I can tell, I can't get _any_ audio flowing down that cable, period. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 11:55:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAB9BD8 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5E68FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q99BswgW086521; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:54:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <50740FE0.5000508@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:52:00 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120901 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Audio out via HDMI... how? References: <28733.1349783186@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <28733.1349783186@tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:55:02 -0000 2012-10-09 13:46, Ronald F. Guilmette skrev: > > > I have a laptop which has an HDMI output port. > > I can get video out of that (with xbmc) just fine. Audio, not so much. > Like not at all, as far as I can tell. > > So anyway, here is what I get when I do "cat /dev/sndstat": > > pcm0: (play/rec) default > pcm1: (rec) > pcm2: (play) As root sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=2 > I have the HDMI output wired into my everything-capable Sony 5.1 channel > receiver, which then in turn is wired into my 4 (count 'em four) speakers. > > OK, so now, could somebody please just tell me how I can do a test > that will determine why I ain't gettin' no audio? > > The receiver is capable of decoding 5.1 DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, and eveything > else too. It is working just fine.. not a thing wrong with it. It works > great with my Blu-Ray player and does the digital->analog decoding for > anything and everything I throw at it. > > Again, I just want to know how to _test_ doing some output to that from > my laptop, via HDMI. I tried these things, but not a sound was heard: > > cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp > > cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp2 > > The FreeBSD handbook page that deal with setiing up audio cards doesn't > provide a whole lot of guidance for how to test and/or fix digital audio > output, whether it is coming out via HDMI (as in my case) or via any other > kind of physical transport (e.g. coax or S/PDIF). > > Somwebody please pass me a clue. I'd really like to get this working. > Thanks. > > P.S. If I have to downmix to 2ch in xbmc before the audio even hits the > HDMI cable, I could even live with that. Bu right now, as far as I can > tell, I can't get _any_ audio flowing down that cable, period. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 13:40:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B997CA7B for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@fongaboo.com) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550928FC14 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89B584DC4 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h3lix.wtfayla.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65509-02 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8639284D67 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) From: freebsd-questions@fongaboo.com X-X-Sender: fongaboo@helix.wtfayla.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request to Add Website Details- Hardware Section In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:40:25 -0000 Again... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:00:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C162DAD for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E598FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2B65E44B; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:46:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.577, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LWpxXQNGJ5Hk; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:46:47 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.139] (c-195-216-043-059.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.43.59]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DF35E42E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:46:51 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:00:03 -0000 Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise the disk (This is in Windows7). A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT would be beneficial. Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! Will someone enlighten me? Thanks :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:06:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D728412A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838B98FC1B for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554275E448 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:06:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.577, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dEDP-p-E2zxS for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:06:10 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.139] (c-195-216-043-059.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.43.59]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CE74B2028 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:06:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50744B76.8050407@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:06:14 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:06:13 -0000 Leslie Jensen skrev 2012-10-09 17:46: > > > Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. > > My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the > disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise > the disk (This is in Windows7). > > A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) > > I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT > would be beneficial. > > Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? > > I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! > > Will someone enlighten me? > > Thanks :-) > > /Leslie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Found the answer! Sorry for the noice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:22:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0581690A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792108FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpc12-sgyl31-2-0-cust160.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com [80.192.11.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99G5VCk026862 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:05:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <50744B51.20302@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:05:37 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Netflow capture question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:22:27 -0000 Hi, I have some periodic traffic coming off one of my servers that is regular but i can't figure out where its going.. I don't have direct access to the router this is going via, will netflow, flowcapture allow me to monitor traffic ( by port/protocol etc) straight off the NIC? thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:25:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFEBB33 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADA58FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q99GPYnc030734 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: SATA Controllers Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:25:34 -0700 Message-Id: <50DE4FB5-4123-4B83-9805-E817331490EE@lafn.org> To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:25:41 -0000 Looking through the list of SATA Controllers available at Best Buy, I = don't find any of them listed on the 9.0 hardware page. I need a couple = cheap ones (for non-production systems). Does anyone have = recommendations?= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 17:23:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D085BC5C for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F3D8FC14 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99HNaUO024083; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q99HNaRi024080; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up In-Reply-To: <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:23:45 -0000 On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. > > My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the disk for > my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise the disk (This > is in Windows7). > > A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) > > I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT would > be beneficial. > > Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? > > I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! Yes, FreeBSD can handle it. As usual, Windows is the problem. From what I've read, only Windows 7 64-bit supports GPT, and then only with UEFI. So it's very likely that MBR is the only practical choice. Another trick is that Windows generally only has drivers for what was present when it was installed. So switching the BIOS to AHCI for better performance can result in Windows not booting. It is possible to locate the Windows drivers and install them. Otherwise, FreeBSD will work fine without AHCI, disk IO will be just a bit slower. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l16sm20341351anm.6.2012.10.09.11.07.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Xbmcp3VdWz2CG5b for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:07:38 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up Message-ID: <20121009140738.415bbb48@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmtbJmBt8NzkgM5D7hhukf8qsfWdVPFHSYrGx1fz3bSpH3dg/Y59pW9TCasjqN+jyRTQCJh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:07:44 -0000 On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block articulated: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. > > > > My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of > > the disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must > > initialise the disk (This is in Windows7). > > > > A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) > > > > I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if > > GPT would be beneficial. > > > > Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? > > > > I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! > > Yes, FreeBSD can handle it. As usual, Windows is the problem. From > what I've read, only Windows 7 64-bit supports GPT, and then only > with UEFI. So it's very likely that MBR is the only practical choice. > > Another trick is that Windows generally only has drivers for what was > present when it was installed. So switching the BIOS to AHCI for > better performance can result in Windows not booting. It is possible > to locate the Windows drivers and install them. > > Otherwise, FreeBSD will work fine without AHCI, disk IO will be just > a bit slower. A somewhat more concise discussion of Windows 7 and GPT can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463525.aspx Information on ACHI is available at: http://www.everything-microsoft.com/2010/05/25/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7/ http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/ -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 18:48:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081CADD for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@bbnetworks.net) Received: from mail.bbnetworks.net (mail.bbnetworks.net [IPv6:2a00:1c30:1:100::10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A892A8FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lelu.suonsivu.net (lelu.suonsivu.net [212.16.96.66]) by mail.bbnetworks.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99IlHOF073123 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:48:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from hsu@bbnetworks.net) Message-ID: <50747143.6090406@bbnetworks.net> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:47:31 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu Organization: Backbone Networks Europe User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120921 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Puzzled: install system from hard disk to another does not work, but dvd install works References: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:48:08 -0000 I have traditionally done disk to disk installs, for example, when changing partition setup. I think this worked with 7 and 8, but now with 9.* it seems to fail. Now, this seems to be quite strange, and I cannot quite figure this out: Setup is like this: - host with two disks, shown up as ada0 and ada1 - I install FreeBSD 9.0R into ada0, with manual setup, which includes - gpt partitioning, with freebsd-boot partition at 64, size 192 (aligned for 4kB blocks), freebsd-swap, and freebsd-ufs partitions - gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 - gmirror label root ada0p3 (other disk will be inserted later) - gjournal label /dev/mirror/root - newfs -J /dev/mirror/root.journal - And appropriate loader.conf etc setups - This install works fine. - Upgrade to latest using freebsd-update - Then I notice that swap (or whatever) was too small, so lets redo the partitions on the second disk with changed partitions: - Boot single user from the working system installed above - Do the same partitioning steps as earlier from dvd - tar/rsync whatever all the files from ada0 to ada1 - reboot from ada1. Now, this hangs when it tries to mount root, the last message is Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/root.journal [rw,async,noatime]... And after this nothing happens (at least for hours). So, what might be wrong? Further debugging: - If I remove journal and mirror (not changing anything else), it still stops when trying to mount root, so it does not seem that mirror and journal have effect (though I have not tried if ordinary partition to partition copy works) - noatime option on mount does not have effect on this - Redoing bootcode commands does not cure it - This is not specific to computer or OS version. I have had same problem on modern amd64 host as well as old i386 host, and this has repeated on at least 4 systems, all different. This happened with earlier 9.0R versions (binary updated) as well, though I cannot be certain if unmodified 9.0R has this problem. Medias have been anything from various sized disks to CF cards. I think doing disk-to-disk install worked with 8.x (though I was mostly using mbr partitions that time). - Media size does not seem to have any effect. - When I give the computer three-letter salute (ctrl-alt-del), it stops the journals and mirrors, and reboots normally. So the kernel is not completely hung, and shuts down properly. - The root disk does not seem to have gotten mounted at all, as dumpfs says "last mounted at" to be /mnt, not / (it was mounted to /mnt when I tried this) - Contents of /boot is identical on both disks (as are all other files, copied with either tar or rsync). - Contents of gpt freebsd-boot partitions are identical - There was slight difference in mbr block, but copying ada0 mbr block to ada1 makes no difference. The difference was that partition data on ada1 was different, with very small partition at the end. Reinstalling pmbr with gpart bootcode does not have effect. - fsck passes without errors. - Dumpfs seems to have no strange differences (other than slightly different size filesystem - Doing this from multi user or single user system does not make a difference - Having disk to install from in single user mode as read-only does not make a difference (can't use vi to edit fstab but that is not strictly necessary...) - Repeating all steps does not make a difference - I have done this so many times, that I am pretty sure I am not typoing something every time. - If I drop gjournal and mirror and create filesystem with softupdates journaling, the resulting system boots - If I have mirror with no gjournal, and softupdates journaling (tested by labeling already existing partition in previous test, so it might not be completely similar situation). Apart from changed partition sizes, there is no visible difference in boot blocks, partition tables, filesystems, and files on the partitions. The commands to create the partitions from dvd seem completely identical, there is no visible difference. Kernel just waits for something when trying to mount root filesystem on ada1, while boot from ada0 works fine. Any idea what is going on? Has anyone else tried this? In what situations root mount could get stuck waiting for something? Heikki Suonsivu bbnetworks.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 19:00:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6E3E91 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokomull@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958378FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so16003453iea.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LmQ+V6y09Rs04J0ClVIjN9LiW3HPvBokQvmXyK6Gfl4=; b=Am0Nel3ZTpQqfh2cofowz104F8GzhnL4GRHR3WGmb0tOQIMUgK931wZaD2ofA/aHwj xvM/xuLb5AQi/GTndDIEulujBWpuSYd/hD7kIk9eWQHhM4dfumD5WrppL1HyWvkilCKB pnX6uzhpNnt1Lo5lImuEYjlJahCW7qtZnHuup7FxENjksE1XYHbGqPKHGRHJWimyf3UN ttjy78/v/hgis/qM58U3IjknEu4F6xqZ4coWbCrM+E0/UdlFwtY3RV/XeXwDtPxx6dQO Nzgm1sBApKuYw6BtKvwTKQfdjwvZg9jJYNsynxb1x8la0Ni1YXUmLL4njaDHF+E+PAyb 1zXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.13.138 with SMTP id h10mr2787034igc.55.1349809199707; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.252.28 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50744B51.20302@ifdnrg.com> References: <50744B51.20302@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Netflow capture question From: Matt Mullins To: Paul Macdonald Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:00:00 -0000 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Paul Macdonald wrote: > I don't have direct access to the router this is going via, will netflow, > flowcapture allow me to monitor traffic ( by port/protocol etc) straight off > the NIC? flow-capture simply receives NetFlow data and stores it to disk. You'll need to use that in combination with softflowd to listen for raw packets on the NIC and generate the NetFlow information. 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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:52:57 -0700 Message-ID: <32134.1349819577@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:52:57 -0000 Bernt Hansson bah at bananmonarki.se wrote: >As root sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=2 Yes, unfortunately I had already tried that before I posted. (Sorry, I should have mentioned that also.) That made no difference whatsoever to the outcome. There was still no sound coming out when I tried cat'ing /dev/random to either /dev/dsp or to /dev/dsp2. So I'm still stuck. 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YmBtzGVkygvj_0hwavvHpDb_yvC1sFfhtSEKefNUQq_VheNgZqbTHahxIAzT BhxWsuGJG3fqwz_Pa9acGHgXYm3J8ThVp9IBtShIbdBJYNCGmTpENqNRjOlp vLKR8Kv.x1eqQcmXenbnngrztsLFtyd4uyDAvy8R46exMkGggCikpsdIR_tg UJXLdDlBVFsM- Received: from [207.154.100.163] by web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:16:52 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, Ck15IGdvYWwgaXMgdG8gZ2V0IG15IEZUUCBzZXJ2ZXIgd29ya2luZyBmb3IgYm90aCBwYXNzaXZlIGFuZCBhY3RpdmUgdHlwZSBGVFAgY29ubmVjdGlvbnMgd2l0aCB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nIApjb25kaXRpb25zOgoxKSBSdW5uaW5nIFBGIGZpcmV3YWxsIG9uIGEgRnJlZUJTRCBtYWNoaW5lLCB3aGljaCBpcyBhbHNvIHRoZSBGVFAgbWFjaGluZS4KMikgV2l0aG91dCBvcGVuaW5nIHVwIGFsbCBwb3J0cyA.IDEwMjQgKG9yIGFueSB1cHBlci1zd2F0aCBvZiBwb3J0cyksIGV4Y2VwdCB3aGVyZSB0aGlzIG9jY3UBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349828212.549.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Duckbreath Subject: P w/ ftp-proxy, using both active/passive FTP To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Duckbreath List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 00:16:54 -0000 =0AMy goal is to get my FTP server working for both passive and active type= FTP connections with the following =0Aconditions:=0A1) Running PF firewall= on a FreeBSD machine, which is also the FTP machine.=0A2) Without opening = up all ports > 1024 (or any upper-swath of ports), except where this occurs= dynamically.=0A=0AI have chosen to take an ftp-proxy based solution.=A0 I'= m also limited to 1 box here, so ftp-proxy is running on the =0Asame machin= e as the target FTP server, although I understand it is typically used in a= gateway/forwarding situation.=0A=0AAfter a lot of playing around with my f= irewall rules, I've ended up in a mutually exclusive situation.=0A=0AWith t= his line:=0Ardr pass on $std_int proto tcp from any to $std_int port 21 -> = 127.0.0.1 port 8021=0A=0APASSIVE FTP WORKS!! Yay!!!!=A0 Woooo *cheering in = background*.=0ABut.... Active fails.=0A=0AIf I comment it out, in thus fash= ion:=0A#rdr pass on $std_int proto tcp from any to $std_int port 21 -> 127.= 0.0.1 port 8021=0A=0AACTIVE FTP WORKS!! Yay!!!! Wooooo *cheering in backgro= und*.=0ABut..... Passive fails.=0A=0AI would also like to mention that just= commenting it out and restarting the firewall is all I did.=A0 ftp-proxy s= erver =0Aprocess is still running.=A0 Also both tests were from the same ho= st, using the same ftp program, with only =0Aactive/passive settings on ftp= client used appropriately for each respective test; all other settings ide= ntical.=0A=0A=0ASo I took a look at the handbook, which claimed I need to u= nderstand active/passive better (although I thought =0AI already did... fun= ny how that works?) - and the handbook linked the site http://slacksite.com= /other/ftp.html=0A=0AHere I got this awesome description from slacksite:=0A= "In active mode FTP the client connects from a random unprivileged port (N = > 1023) to the FTP server's command port, =0Aport 21. Then, the client star= ts listening to port N+1 and sends the FTP command PORT N+1 to the FTP serv= er. =0AThe server will then connect back to the client's specified data por= t from its local data port, which is port 20."=0A=0ASo my first assumption = was, "Either I can't connect to the client's local port, or my firewall isn= 't letting anything =0Aout on port 20."=A0 I look at the rules... hmm, don'= t think so.=A0 I just open up everything and try anyway,=0Atry ftp-proxy wi= th & without "-r" option, and no dice.=A0 Same situation for both tests.=A0= Nothing changes.=0A=0AExamples of what I put in:=0Apass in quick on $std_i= nt proto tcp from any to any=0Apass out quick on $std_int proto tcp from an= y to any=0Abelow rdr directive (which is required by pf.conf ordering).=0A= =0A=0AThen I have a Face Palm.... exactly how did any of that have to do wi= th it working when the rule was commented out?=A0 Absolutely nothing, that'= s what!=A0 I feel like such an idiot!!=0A=0AOk.. so what does that rule mea= n?=A0 Let's revisit the rule:=0Ardr pass on $std_int proto tcp from any to = $std_int port 21 -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021=0A=0ASo all traffic on port 21, eit= her in or out, goes to localhost 8021.=A0 Hmmmm.=A0 The rule failed when I = tried to =0Aspecify 'in' or 'out' on the rdr directive.=A0 I don't think pf= works rdr that way.=0A=0AMy only logical conclusion is FTP has become stub= born and is using Active mode on port 21, and not 20, for whatever =0Areaso= n.=A0 The connection starts to succeed, but then the ACK packet from the cl= ient of course gets redirected to 8021, =0Aand the active connection being = attempted from 21 misses it, resulting in a "half-open" connection, thus ca= using the =0AFTP data channel to fail.=A0 It is the only possible explanati= on I can come up with, yet that is not in =0Aaccordance to know what I know= about FTP behavior (i.e., according to slacksite's description).=0A=0ASome= where between convention and the IETF, I think I got lost.=0A=0ADoes anyone= know how to get passive + active both working with the stated goals of usi= ng PF w/ ftp-proxy?=0A=0AIf this question is outside the scope of this list= but better suited to be asked freebsd-pf, apologies in advance.=A0 Since t= he question is not about the development of the firewall itself, I thought = it appropriate to ask here.=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 01:51:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E7A667 for ; 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My understanding was that we no longer need to use portshaker(8). I've updated svn of ports to r305607 and I still don't see texlive* in /usr/ports/print or any where in /usr/ports. I'm running: FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE i386 Can any TeX Live / LaTeX users on the list shed some light? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 05:21:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E6B13A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE2E8FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FD246097 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:21:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <507505E6.8010905@bnrlabs.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:21:42 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? References: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:21:51 -0000 On 2012.10.08 18:22, Robert Bonomi wrote: > 'cached' is not _technically_ exactly accurate, but you have the concept > basically correct. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Robert. Maybe "shadowed" would be have been a more accurate term. But "in-core" also has a nice ring to it! 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[217.128.200.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a10sm1621392wiz.4.2012.10.10.01.41.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A90CF3A2; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:41:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JWWMd8Wfudti; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:41:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 83581CF3A1; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:41:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Eric Masson To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Mercier Subject: Re: Info 2 Release In-Reply-To: (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ren=E9?= Mercier"'s message of "Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:16:35 +0200") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 amd64 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:41:11 +0200 Message-ID: <86ehl6hg7s.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:41:22 -0000 René Mercier writes: Bonjour, > Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je souhaiterai > passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa sécurité,, je vois > qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous s'il vous plait me dire > quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa date de sortie [L'usage sur les ML FreeBSD est l'utilisation de l'anglais] Check http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html for further information. Éric Masson -- Puisque nous n'avons aucun problème traduisant le Suédois au frencece ne devrait pas être aucun problème pour que vous le fassiezl'autre voie autour. Sucez sur ceci: www.Hlookslikeshit.xxx.com -+- H in GNU : Pour qui sont ces suédois qui sucent sur nos sites ? -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 08:50:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCB8C3C for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287FF8FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9A8nwIM004651; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:50:00 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:49:57 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: andrew clarke Subject: Re: Info 2 Release Message-ID: <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: =?UTF-8?B?UmVuw6k=?= Mercier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:50:03 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 andrew clarke wrote: > On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, Ren=C3=A9 Mercier > (realmo.mercier@gmail.com) wrote: >=20 > > Bonjour, > >=20 > > Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les r=C3=A9seaux, je > > souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilit=C3=A9 et pour sa > > s=C3=A9curit=C3=A9,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez v= ous > > s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release =C3=A0 venir et sa > > date de sortie >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html >=20 > PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 09:03:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CEE1C3 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FCF8FC0C for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TLsBl-00036U-6u; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:02:54 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TLsBk-00045L-FY; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:02:48 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9A92mib000640; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:02:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9A92m0M000639; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:02:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:02:48 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201210100902.q9A92m0M000639@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: mail@ozzmosis.com, realmo.mercier@gmail.com Subject: Re: Info 2 Release In-Reply-To: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: -- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:03:01 -0000 From: andrew clarke PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. What's the problem? If there are non-english posts and non-english helpful replies, who suffers? You and me can just ignore those, like we ignore OT, right? Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 09:15:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74EE55B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E498FC0C for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:15:11 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQKAE88dVB8qhZ1/2dsb2JhbABEhSm5AwN7gQiCIAEBBAE6NBALCw0IMRQYRAkLh2sFDLcki2BVghCCQWADlWqFUDWKLIMBgU8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,564,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="42594975" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.22.117]) by icp-osb-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2012 17:15:09 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3AE9DA25; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:15:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:15:09 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Info 2 Release Message-ID: <20121010091508.GB4754@ozzmosis.com> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <201210100902.q9A92m0M000639@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201210100902.q9A92m0M000639@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:15:12 -0000 On Wed 2012-10-10 10:02:48 UTC+0100, Anton Shterenlikht (mexas@bristol.ac.uk) wrote: > From: andrew clarke > > PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. > > What's the problem? > If there are non-english posts > and non-english helpful replies, > who suffers? > > You and me can just ignore those, > like we ignore OT, right? Then the OP suffers from being ignored. Clearly English is preferred. (Incidentally the page at http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html lists a French FreeBSD mailing list at listserver@FreeBSD-fr.org, with the web site at http://www.freebsd-fr.org/, however the web address no longer resolves, so I suspect the listserver is offline too.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 09:18:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0BE696 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out6.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out6.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC878FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:18:57 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMKANQ8dVB8qhZ1/2dsb2JhbABEhSm5AwN7gQiCIAEBBAE6PwULCw05FA0LMROHcwMJBa1MDYlUimCBVYRRYAOUFQGBVIVQNYUfhQ2DAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,564,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="43043742" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.22.117]) by icp-osb-irony-out6.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2012 17:18:55 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 600F7A28; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:18:55 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:18:55 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: ajtiM Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 RC2 Message-ID: <20121010091855.GC4754@ozzmosis.com> References: <201210091554.24079.lumiwa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201210091554.24079.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:18:58 -0000 On Tue 2012-10-09 15:54:23 UTC-0500, ajtiM (lumiwa@gmail.com) wrote: > I saw that is no more iso for FreeBSD RC1. Now is for RC2. Is it possible or > better safe to use freebsd-update to update 9.1 RC1 to RC2, please? You can use "freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC2". Safe? You probably wouldn't want to use it on a production server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 10:04:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CBBDBE for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606D88FC16 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9AA4Vpn020511; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:04:32 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:24:57 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: Info 2 Release Message-ID: <20121010162457.06490f1b@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201210100902.q9A92m0M000639@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <201210100902.q9A92m0M000639@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: realmo.mercier@gmail.com, mail@ozzmosis.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:04:41 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:02:48 +0100 (BST) Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > From: andrew clarke > > PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. > > What's the problem? > If there are non-english posts > and non-english helpful replies, > who suffers? > I think that the original poster is the one who suffers most. 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pp3sm787437igb.8.2012.10.10.03.21.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: andrew clarke Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 RC2 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:21:40 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RC2; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) References: <201210091554.24079.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20121010091855.GC4754@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20121010091855.GC4754@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210100521.40698.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:21:51 -0000 On Wednesday 10 October 2012 04:18:55 andrew clarke wrote: > On Tue 2012-10-09 15:54:23 UTC-0500, ajtiM (lumiwa@gmail.com) wrote: > > I saw that is no more iso for FreeBSD RC1. Now is for RC2. Is it possible > > or better safe to use freebsd-update to update 9.1 RC1 to RC2, please? > > You can use "freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC2". > > Safe? You probably wouldn't want to use it on a production server. I did it on my home computer and it was fast and it works. 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I want to replace the isp supplied router with a freebsd box. I'm fine on the normal routing setup however I'm having difficulty finding uptodate info on howto setup a freebsd multicast router. Can anyone give me any pointers? I think they use igmpv3 if that helps. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 12:23:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEF0A73 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C478FC1C for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so961803iea.13 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BmeKbIroKnhjXeTgKSUdc1Vy4szc8EIreL3UHHvhxok=; b=MHxP5RmdHP0NsYRvC8jxiHMHtspWCQXnf9zvPhEchuQYHi60pGtf9fBomPJiVM07iJ b6l0P6aF1JzxRTYDHo6jLWoHLAQksd2Bu796ITeNNN9vJnKMtj1VLj2Up0i28B5ZOL7j 8BmURIhLiVqEEgLeg1ADgjnYjsogcmy1POzGQDoFE+NxUsCPT0MYQLs+xbZ83Ycz7mmj JWSaq9nm0sPyJY9CiAWdgtBOYmc+tVz0aCT2w0nn3r3AehxE+RZvfMLPmc4ZgADVm8tU ZXLZDtPk1wkL3ayLekKHgz77K+akf8TIbS9s6oKvTxZnpSBvuhNrzjehR9YJEaPWsWAr d4iA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.51.234 with SMTP id n10mr5025354igo.74.1349871801318; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.13.204 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port From: Antonio Olivares To: Joseph Olatt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:23:21 -0000 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Joseph Olatt wrote: > Hi, > > According to: > > http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive > > I got the impression that the texlive is now available in the ports. My > understanding was that we no longer need to use portshaker(8). I've > updated svn of ports to r305607 and I still don't see texlive* in > /usr/ports/print or any where in /usr/ports. I was under the same impression. You do need to do use portshaker to get these ports populated. Otherwise, you will not see 'texlive-*' ports in your ports tree. Best Regards, Antonio > > I'm running: FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE i386 > > Can any TeX Live / LaTeX users on the list shed some light? > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 13:01:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A738823 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from osx.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1438FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by osx.kode5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D17552C3C9 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:46 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osx.kode5.net Received: from osx.kode5.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (osx.kode5.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YVM9zVuAljZU for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:44 +0100 (BST) Received: by osx.kode5.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3C69D52C3B8; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:44 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port Message-ID: <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: x-operating-system: Darwin 11.4.2 x86_64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:01:54 -0000 [ Antonio Olivares wrote on Wed 10.Oct'12 at 7:23:21 -0500 ] > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Joseph Olatt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > According to: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive > > > > I got the impression that the texlive is now available in the ports. My > > understanding was that we no longer need to use portshaker(8). I've > > updated svn of ports to r305607 and I still don't see texlive* in > > /usr/ports/print or any where in /usr/ports. > > I was under the same impression. You do need to do use portshaker to > get these ports populated. Otherwise, you will not see 'texlive-*' > ports in your ports tree. > > Best Regards, > > > Antonio > > > > > I'm running: FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE i386 > > > > Can any TeX Live / LaTeX users on the list shed some light? > > > > Thanks If you prefer, you can just use the download dvd or netinstall from the texlive website. They have provided binaries for FreeBSD. I installed the full TeX distribution myself just the other week on FreeBSD 9. So no need to use the ports system if you don't want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 13:10:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C42723A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 100019308@alumnos.uc3m.es) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (smtp02.uc3m.es [163.117.176.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5370F8FC1D for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alumnos.uc3m.es (llgf731.servidoresdns.net [217.76.132.141]) (Authenticated sender: 100019308@smtp02.uc3m.es) by smtp02.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E03F9883DDC for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:03:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:03:48 +0500 From: =?windows-1251?Q?=D1=EC=E5=F1=E8=F2e=EB=E8_GR=CE=CD=C5?= <100019308@alumnos.uc3m.es> Organization: igxyeky X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1035154087.20121010150348@alumnos.uc3m.es> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?windows-1251?Q?=D1M=E5=F1=E8=F2=E5=EB=E8_=EE=EF=F2=EE=EC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTHACL 134 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (smtp02.uc3m.es); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:03:48 +0200 (CEST) X-IMSS-SPAM: YES X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19258.003 X-TM-AS-Result: Yes-28.924-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: Yes-28.924-7.0-31-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:10:45 -0000 http://lounikiforovski.site.aplus.net/0kapitan.php mail: info@groheopt.ru tel: 8-926-615-70-76 Òèìîôåé From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 15:46:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E4670B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7028FC19 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so1533717iea.13 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:46:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0DeZhkIE6g0QaFApD+1oWBLmiPtGTB4tqTJhgpsuSDk=; b=0ChZPXfXk0yMoLcMs+hnSzCu0/3V70B49374/YdC20/RfqRKQLuF/d/r6Ca8/tMHna UaIvrRz5wbTCRbTXzDekmgLC548CUBZjBk/Qm6heVjj0NbNEhFscx+OEYD2ykLfN8/5v 6ZS8+cfThgnJUyLg2bvNb6Fn1FFAZxSoRkkr1MCYX0YbVR1+KHG+wjppfPCweQdHBdyx 0tJTqrcLj2LyPkQjVKbiVQYI5gP01CIn9ybWzFysMiAcXOngkaYRfTwVkx9qmr1pzuz6 b5egSDJOUhRuwe1/aXm9kxcA3CrifZCIpK2zUS0CmDXZ/Z99kRa2bt+ITqZw/FVLSd2F nj/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.199 with SMTP id x7mr5826387igm.19.1349883986869; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.53.73 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:46:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86lifhma8g.fsf@venux.xbsd.name> References: <86lifhma8g.fsf@venux.xbsd.name> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Do I need to use sysutils/ataidle to avoid high LCC for my hard drive? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:46:33 -0000 On 8 October 2012 08:14, Denise H. G. wrote: > Hi list. > > I am currently running FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE on my laptop. And I am > wondering if I still need to use sysutiles/ataidle to avoid high Load > Cyle Count for my hard drive. Is there still a need to run this utility > to avoid LCC under FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE? > I believe so, as my Load Cycle Count still increments fairly quickly when let. Though as long as you have "options ATA_CAM" (it appears to be in GENERIC, so you should, I suppose) you can also use variations on: /sbin/camcontrol cmd ada0 -a "EF 85 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00" to shut off naps & such as well. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 15:49:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5577286E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A458FC1D for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-144.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.144]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4542760D; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9AFnPaY002001; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:49:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:49:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jamie Paul Griffin Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port Message-Id: <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:49:33 -0000 On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:44 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > If you prefer, you can just use the download dvd or netinstall from the > texlive website. They have provided binaries for FreeBSD. I installed > the full TeX distribution myself just the other week on FreeBSD 9. So no > need to use the ports system if you don't want. The only remaining problem will be dependencies within the port management system, e. g. ports requiring a TeX distribution which defaults to teTeX... By the way, would it be possible or desired to introduce a setting to /etc/make.conf regarding _which_ TeX distribution to use, e. g. WITH_TEX=texlive (will install TeXlive) or WITH_TEX=teTeX (will install teTeX) if a dependency of TeX is requested? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 16:00:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0BB78B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (x.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A868FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x.it.okstate.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9AFXgeu025929 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:33:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201210101533.q9AFXgeu025929@x.it.okstate.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mfs8.0 scripts have me baffled when adding Files. Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:33:42 -0500 From: Martin McCormick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:00:35 -0000 I am making a mfs boot disk to send along with a server we are dispatching to a remote campus. I am using the scripts from Martin Matuska's mfsbsd-1.0-beta3 suite of programs and they produce a great bootable CD but I need /usr/local/etc/eject.allow present to let us remotely eject the CD when we are through repairing the file system. Basically, I have successfully added a bit of code to the Makefile to add the file in question to the mfs root and I see it on the finished image, but when we get the mfsbsd shell going, the addition I made is nowhere to be found. I am including the Makefile at the bottom but it appears to be doing exactly what I told it to do so there is something about the boot process that I am missing. Thanks for any suggestions. Basically, all the parts work but the whole is less than the sum. # $Id: Makefile 27 2009-10-02 13:13:26Z mm $ # # mfsBSD # Copyright (c) 2007-2008 Martin Matuska # # Version 1.0-BETA4 # # # User-defined variables # BASE?=/cdrom/7.2-RELEASE IMAGE?= mfsboot.img ISOIMAGE?= mfsboot.iso TARFILE?= mfsboot.tar.gz KERNCONF?= GENERIC MFSROOT_FREE_INODES?=5% MFSROOT_FREE_BLOCKS?=5% MFSROOT_MAXSIZE?=45m ROOTPW?= mfsbsd # If you want to build your own kernel and make you own world, you need to set # -DCUSTOM or CUSTOM=1 # # To make buildworld use # -DCUSTOM -DBUILDWORLD or CUSTOM=1 BUILDWORLD=1 # # To make buildkernel use # -DCUSTOM -DBUILDKERNEL or CUSTOM=1 BUILDKERNEL=1 # # For all of this use # -DCUSTOM -DBUILDWORLD -DBUILDKERNEL or CUSTOM=1 BUILDKERNEL=1 BUILDWORLD=1 # # Paths # SRCDIR?=/usr/src CFGDIR=conf SCRIPTSDIR=scripts PACKAGESDIR=packages FILESDIR=files TOOLSDIR=tools # # Program defaults # MKDIR=/bin/mkdir -p CHOWN=/usr/sbin/chown CAT=/bin/cat PWD=/bin/pwd TAR=/usr/bin/tar CP=/bin/cp MV=/bin/mv RM=/bin/rm RMDIR=/bin/rmdir CHFLAGS=/bin/chflags CHMOD=/bin/chmod MKUZIP=/usr/bin/mkuzip GZIP=/usr/bin/gzip TOUCH=/usr/bin/touch LS=/bin/ls PW=/usr/sbin/pw SED=/usr/bin/sed UNAME=/usr/bin/uname MAKEFS=/usr/sbin/makefs SSHKEYGEN=/usr/bin/ssh-keygen MKISOFS=/usr/local/bin/mkisofs # CURDIR!=${PWD} WRKDIR?=${CURDIR}/tmp # BSDLABEL=bsdlabel # STEPS=7 # DOFS=${TOOLSDIR}/doFS.sh SCRIPTS=mdinit mfsbsd interfaces packages BOOTMODULES=acpi snp geom_uzip zlib tmpfs opensolaris zfs MFSMODULES=geom_label geom_mirror # all: image extract: ${WRKDIR}/.extract_done ${WRKDIR}/.extract_done: @${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mfs && ${CHOWN} root:wheel ${WRKDIR}/mfs .if !defined(CUSTOM) @if [ ! -d "${BASE}" ]; then \ echo "Please set the environment variable BASE to a path"; \ echo "with FreeBSD distribution files (e.g. /cdrom/7.2-RELEASE)"; \ echo "Or execute like: make BASE=/cdrom/7.2-RELEASE"; \ exit 1; \ fi @for DIR in base kernels; do \ if [ ! -d "${BASE}/$$DIR" ]; then \ echo "Cannot find directory \"${BASE}/$$DIR\""; \ exit 1; \ fi \ done @echo -n "Extracting base and kernel ..." @${CAT} ${BASE}/base/base.?? | ${TAR} --unlink -xpzf - -C ${WRKDIR}/mfs @${CAT} ${BASE}/kernels/generic.?? | ${TAR} --unlink -xpzf - -C ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot @${MV} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/GENERIC/* ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel @${RMDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/GENERIC @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel/*.symbols @${CHFLAGS} -R noschg ${WRKDIR}/mfs > /dev/null 2> /dev/null || exit 0 @echo " done" .endif @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.extract_done build: extract ${WRKDIR}/.build_done ${WRKDIR}/.build_done: .if defined(CUSTOM) .if defined(BUILDWORLD) @echo -n "Building world ..." @cd ${SRCDIR} && make buildworld .endif .if defined(BUILDKERNEL) @echo -n "Building kernel KERNCONF=${KERNCONF} ..." @cd ${SRCDIR} && make buildkernel KERNCONF=${KERNCONF} .endif .endif @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.build_done install: build ${WRKDIR}/.install_done ${WRKDIR}/.install_done: .if defined(CUSTOM) @echo -n "Installing world and kernel KERNCONF=${KERNCONF} ..." @cd ${SRCDIR} && make installworld DESTDIR="${WRKDIR}/mfs" @cd ${SRCDIR} && make distribution DESTDIR="${WRKDIR}/mfs" @cd ${SRCDIR} && make installkernel DESTDIR="${WRKDIR}/mfs" @${CHFLAGS} -R noschg ${WRKDIR}/mfs > /dev/null 2> /dev/null || exit 0 .endif @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.install_done prune: install ${WRKDIR}/.prune_done ${WRKDIR}/.prune_done: @echo -n "Removing unnecessary files from distribution ..." @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/rescue ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/include ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/games @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/lib32 .for DIR in dict doc games info man openssl @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/share/${DIR} .endfor @${RM} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/lib/*.a @${RM} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/libexec/cc1* ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/libexec/f771 @for x in c++ g++ CC gcc cc yacc byacc f77 addr2line \ ar as gasp gdb gdbreplay ld nm objcopy objdump \ ranlib readelf size strip gdbtui kgdb; do \ ${RM} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr/bin/$$x; \ done @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.prune_done @echo " done" packages: install prune ${WRKDIR}/.packages_done ${WRKDIR}/.packages_done: @if [ -d "${PACKAGESDIR}" ]; then \ echo -n "Copying user packages ..."; \ ${CP} -rf ${PACKAGESDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/packages; \ ${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.packages_done; \ echo " done"; \ fi #added by Martin McCormick @if [ -d "${FILESDIR}" ]; then \ echo -n "Copying custom files ..."; \ cd ${FILESDIR}; ${TAR} cf - . | (cd ${WRKDIR}/mfs; ${TAR} xfBp -); \ ${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.files_done; \ echo " done"; \ fi #This does place usr/local/etc/eject.allow in mfsroot but it #disappears on boot. #end of added code config: install ${WRKDIR}/.config_done ${WRKDIR}/.config_done: @echo -n "Installing configuration scripts and files ..." @for FILE in loader.conf rc.conf resolv.conf interfaces.conf; do \ if [ ! -f "${CFGDIR}/$${FILE}" ]; then \ if [ ! -f "${CFGDIR}/$${FILE}.sample" ]; then \ echo "Missing ${CFGDIR}/$${FILE}.sample"; \ exit 1; \ fi \ fi \ done @${RM} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/motd @${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/stand ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/rc.conf.d @if [ -f "${CFGDIR}/loader.conf" ]; then \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/loader.conf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/loader.conf; \ else \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/loader.conf.sample ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/loader.conf; \ fi @if [ -f "${CFGDIR}/rc.conf" ]; then \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/rc.conf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/rc.conf; \ else \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/rc.conf.sample ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/rc.conf; \ fi @if [ -f "${CFGDIR}/resolv.conf" ]; then \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/resolv.conf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/resolv.conf; \ fi @if [ -f "${CFGDIR}/interfaces.conf" ]; then \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/interfaces.conf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/rc.conf.d/interfaces; \ fi @if [ -f "${CFGDIR}/authorized_keys" ]; then \ ${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/root/.ssh; \ ${CHMOD} 700 ${WRKDIR}/mfs/root/.ssh; \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/authorized_keys ${WRKDIR}/mfs/root/.ssh/authorized_keys; \ fi @for SCRIPT in ${SCRIPTS}; do \ ${CP} ${SCRIPTSDIR}/$${SCRIPT} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/rc.d/; \ ${CHMOD} 555 ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/rc.d/$${SCRIPT}; \ done @${SED} -I -E 's/\(ttyv[2-7].*\)on /\1off/g' ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/ttys @echo "/dev/md0 / ufs rw 0 0" > ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/fstab @echo "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw 0 0" >> ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/fstab @echo ${ROOTPW} | ${PW} -V ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc usermod root -h 0 @echo PermitRootLogin yes >> ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/ssh/sshd_config @echo 127.0.0.1 localhost > ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/hosts @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.config_done @echo " done" genkeys: config ${WRKDIR}/.genkeys_done ${WRKDIR}/.genkeys_done: @echo -n "Generating SSH host keys ..." @${SSHKEYGEN} -t rsa1 -b 1024 -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N '' > /dev/null @${SSHKEYGEN} -t dsa -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' > /dev/null @${SSHKEYGEN} -t rsa -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' > /dev/null @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.genkeys_done @echo " done" usr.uzip: install prune ${WRKDIR}/.usr.uzip_done ${WRKDIR}/.usr.uzip_done: @echo -n "Creating usr.uzip ..." @${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mnt @${MAKEFS} -t ffs ${WRKDIR}/usr.img ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr > /dev/null @${MKUZIP} -o ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr.uzip ${WRKDIR}/usr.img > /dev/null @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr ${WRKDIR}/usr.img && ${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mfs/usr @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.usr.uzip_done @echo " done" boot: install prune ${WRKDIR}/.boot_done ${WRKDIR}/.boot_done: @echo -n "Configuring boot environment ..." @${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/disk && ${CHOWN} root:wheel ${WRKDIR}/disk @${RM} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel/kernel.debug @${CP} -rp ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot ${WRKDIR}/disk @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/kernel/*.ko @for FILE in ${BOOTMODULES}; do \ test -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel/$${FILE}.ko && ${CP} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel/$${FILE}.ko ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/kernel/$${FILE}.ko >/dev/null 2>/dev/null; \ done @${MKDIR} -p ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/modules @for FILE in ${MFSMODULES}; do \ test -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel/$${FILE}.ko && ${MV} -f ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel/$${FILE}.ko ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/modules/ >/dev/null 2>/dev/null; \ done @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mfs/boot/kernel @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.boot_done @echo " done" mfsroot: install prune config genkeys boot usr.uzip packages ${WRKDIR}/.mfsroot_done ${WRKDIR}/.mfsroot_done: @echo -n "Creating and compressing mfsroot ..." @${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mnt @${MAKEFS} -t ffs -m ${MFSROOT_MAXSIZE} -f ${MFSROOT_FREE_INODES} -b ${MFSROOT_FREE_BLOCKS} ${WRKDIR}/disk/mfsroot ${WRKDIR}/mfs > /dev/null @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mnt ${WRKDIR}/mfs @${GZIP} -9 -f ${WRKDIR}/disk/mfsroot @${GZIP} -9 -f ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/kernel/kernel @if [ -f "${CFGDIR}/loader.conf" ]; then \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/loader.conf ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/loader.conf; \ else \ ${CP} ${CFGDIR}/loader.conf.sample ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/loader.conf; \ fi @${TOUCH} ${WRKDIR}/.mfsroot_done @echo " done" image: install prune config genkeys boot usr.uzip mfsroot ${IMAGE} ${IMAGE}: @echo -n "Creating image file ..." @${MKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mnt ${WRKDIR}/trees/base/boot @${CP} ${WRKDIR}/disk/boot/boot ${WRKDIR}/trees/base/boot/ # @${MAKEFS} -t ffs ${WRKDIR}/disk.img ${WRKDIR}/disk @${DOFS} ${BSDLABEL} "" ${WRKDIR}/disk.img ${WRKDIR} ${WRKDIR}/mnt 0 ${WRKDIR}/disk 80000 auto > /dev/null 2> /dev/null @${RM} -rf ${WRKDIR}/mnt ${WRKDIR}/trees @${MV} ${WRKDIR}/disk.img ${IMAGE} @echo " done" @${LS} -l ${IMAGE} iso: install prune config genkeys boot usr.uzip mfsroot ${ISOIMAGE} ${ISOIMAGE}: @if [ ! -x "${MKISOFS}" ]; then exit 1; fi @echo -n "Creating ISO image ..." @${MKISOFS} -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -r -J -V mfsBSD -o ${ISOIMAGE} ${WRKDIR}/disk > /dev/null 2> /dev/null @echo " done" @${LS} -l ${ISOIMAGE} tar: install prune config boot usr.uzip mfsroot ${TARFILE} ${TARFILE}: @echo -n "Creating tar.gz file ..." @${TAR} -c -z -f ${TARFILE} -C ${WRKDIR}/disk boot mfsroot.gz @echo " done" @${LS} -l ${TARFILE} clean: @if [ -d ${WRKDIR} ]; then ${CHFLAGS} -R noschg ${WRKDIR}; fi @cd ${WRKDIR} && ${RM} -rf mfs mnt disk trees .*_done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 16:01:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB9897 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from osx.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7AF8FC16 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by osx.kode5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD815316F9 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:01:45 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osx.kode5.net Received: from osx.kode5.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (osx.kode5.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rbxoivpFukoT for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:01:44 +0100 (BST) Received: by osx.kode5.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 80B375316C8; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:01:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:01:44 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port Message-ID: <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> x-operating-system: Darwin 11.4.2 x86_64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:01:49 -0000 [ Polytropon wrote on Wed 10.Oct'12 at 17:49:25 +0200 ] > On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:44 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > If you prefer, you can just use the download dvd or netinstall from the > > texlive website. They have provided binaries for FreeBSD. I installed > > the full TeX distribution myself just the other week on FreeBSD 9. So no > > need to use the ports system if you don't want. > > The only remaining problem will be dependencies within the > port management system, e. g. ports requiring a TeX distribution > which defaults to teTeX... > > By the way, would it be possible or desired to introduce a > setting to /etc/make.conf regarding _which_ TeX distribution > to use, e. g. WITH_TEX=texlive (will install TeXlive) or > WITH_TEX=teTeX (will install teTeX) if a dependency of TeX > is requested? That's a very good point. I recall installing something from ports the other day that needed the binary mktexlsr, and I pointed it at my texlive installation by adding the $PATH to root's shell file, but it didn't work out. I had to let it install the tetex port for it to work. I don't mind having more than one TeX distribution on the system but tetex is just so outdated, it would be nice if ports could be set up in a way that they can use texlive if the user has it installed, either from the ports collection itself or from the main texlive site as I have. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 17:11:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D462F4AD for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.gain@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2CE8FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so690265lag.13 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:11:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fJoAojP1HY+J9NWDFs4ItDk18r6XdTTnoFL5cngqXuA=; b=It+ToVBIGBgdl66LDENp/rD2koDV5b8M5h7FsxWqH6S4DLrf0DZKJsWPZhkKdm1469 3q9peJLCa+JeG3q8WJEI5Qx5wQ3MPnFpkqCLSyf0MhUXZoCK9uEpRZPn8TxxFOMJhiSz XJK8MpHOtn5+/gTdCJwnds5cykz4N4RlT7CGFQITr9tvp+WR/LRGKfa4j/N8WTUGCYY0 e2V8XAPrzjTTZ06fhadIudgvtyRWbKU1CCoRwiB/nYsKM5Hmlr9iVm9XsMtSprOna3DJ P0lQ34B8hikglkZ/SGB1CsU5AxZ73GheEI5+k5yKmGwhuR2iqvJLHqsovBa+4x+Y8RcC 9f/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.115 with SMTP id gd19mr20697565lab.13.1349889110841; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.27.227 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:11:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:11:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port From: Joe Gain To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:11:52 -0000 This is not constructive criticism, but just to give voice to how great it would be if texlive could become an official port of freebsd, integrated into the ports system!!! On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Polytropon wrote on Wed 10.Oct'12 at 17:49:25 +0200 ] > >> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:01:44 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: >> > If you prefer, you can just use the download dvd or netinstall from the >> > texlive website. They have provided binaries for FreeBSD. I installed >> > the full TeX distribution myself just the other week on FreeBSD 9. So no >> > need to use the ports system if you don't want. >> >> The only remaining problem will be dependencies within the >> port management system, e. g. ports requiring a TeX distribution >> which defaults to teTeX... >> >> By the way, would it be possible or desired to introduce a >> setting to /etc/make.conf regarding _which_ TeX distribution >> to use, e. g. WITH_TEX=texlive (will install TeXlive) or >> WITH_TEX=teTeX (will install teTeX) if a dependency of TeX >> is requested? > > That's a very good point. I recall installing something from ports the > other day that needed the binary mktexlsr, and I pointed it at my texlive > installation by adding the $PATH to root's shell file, but it didn't > work out. I had to let it install the tetex port for it to work. I don't > mind having more than one TeX distribution on the system but tetex is > just so outdated, it would be nice if ports could be set up in a way > that they can use texlive if the user has it installed, either from the > ports collection itself or from the main texlive site as I have. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- joe gain jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 78464 konstanz germany +49 (0)7531 60389 (...otherwise in ???) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 20:32:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE99DE8 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from osx.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25A58FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by osx.kode5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9B1532956 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:45 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osx.kode5.net Received: from osx.kode5.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (osx.kode5.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5oxLRukeFvDa for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:43 +0100 (BST) Received: by osx.kode5.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2C6E6532945; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:43 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port Message-ID: <20121010203243.GA705@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: x-operating-system: Darwin 11.4.2 x86_64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:32:48 -0000 [ Joe Gain wrote on Wed 10.Oct'12 at 19:11:50 +0200 ] > This is not constructive criticism, but just to give voice to how > great it would be if texlive could become an official port of freebsd, > integrated into the ports system!!! I imagine it would be a lot of work to integrate it into the ports system not to mention it would take an age to compile it. There has been a lot of work done by developers to provide binaries for FreeBSD with the main texlive distribution so it's not necessary to integrate into the ports system. What would be nice is if certain ports that require a tex distribution can be used with the texlive distribution that available from tug.org already. Projects like Macports have been able to do this, if this became possible for FreeBSD ports then it would be great. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 10 22:03:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF5510D for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172028FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-144.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.144]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1C727650; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:03:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9AM3gLL001902; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:03:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:03:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jamie Paul Griffin Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port Message-Id: <20121011000342.bb5dc60e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121010203243.GA705@kontrol.kode5.net> References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121010203243.GA705@kontrol.kode5.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:03:45 -0000 On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:43 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > I imagine it would be a lot of work to integrate it into the ports > system not to mention it would take an age to compile it. > > There has been a lot of work done by developers to provide > binaries for FreeBSD with the main texlive distribution so it's not > necessary to integrate into the ports system. What would be nice is if > certain ports that require a tex distribution can be used with the > texlive distribution that available from tug.org already. > > Projects like Macports have been able to do this, if this became > possible for FreeBSD ports then it would be great. While I see clear advantages in TeXlive being a "self-integrated distribution of software", it doesn't really fit the idea of the ports collection, which is a means to _centrally_ compile, install (or fetch from precompiled packages from a trusted source), patch, update or remove software by using system tools (the pkg_* commands) or additional utilities (like portmaster, portupgrade etc.). Having all the software bring their own distribution system, web-based obtaining and their own "micro-updating" mechanism (inside the software itself) looks a bit outdated. Allow me to share my inspiration: What I primarily like about the ports infrastructure is the fact that it combines several tasks done to (or with) software by a standardized interface, not distributing those tasks across the software itself. I can use pkg_add, portmaster, "make install", even all of them, and I don't even have to launch a web browser to search for or manually download software. I also do not have to deal with "micro-management" systems which is different from port to port. All ports "talk the same language", e. g. "make deinstall" does deinstall the port, no matter _which_ port I choose. I would really like to see TeXlive being available maybe as a precompiled package (for use with pkg_add) so it can easily be installed without actually fetching it from a "non-system" source. Dependencies requesting a TeX package should honor either _which_ TeX is already installed (teTeX or TeXlive) or look at a configuration setting, for example WITH_TEX= in /etc/make.conf, as I suggested. That could deliver a relatively easy integration. Not relying on 3rd party sources is a great advantage. If you use Java, you know what I'm refering to. Go to the web and download it to distfiles/, then resume the build... :-) For building TeXlive: Some people intendedly _want_ to build the stuff they use from source. Others are fine if "make install" fetches some binaries somewhere and installs them (for example this is what "make install" means for the Opera web browser in the first place). Such a "binary distribution" would be easy to implement, even though it might be quite huge (but that could be changed by stripping all non-FreeBSD parts from TeXlive). Still I see the "problem" of TeXlive's own package management system. Integrating _that_ with subports (or havving TeXlive as a metaport) doesn't look easy. As I don't need any feature of TeXlive, I'm _currently_ still using teTeX because it does everything I need. But I agree that TeXlive will be regarded _the_ TeX distribution in the future, leaving teTeX in the past... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 02:06:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904AB91B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492CD8FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9B267xu038204 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:06:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9B267Lx038201 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:06:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:06:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD OPC errors with growisofs In-Reply-To: <20121008113341.2f040b54@fabiankeil.de> Message-ID: References: <20121008113341.2f040b54@fabiankeil.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:06:07 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:06:08 -0000 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Fabian Keil wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > >> I'm using growisofs to write DVDs of backup files. Some combinations of >> older drives and newer media give ":-( unable to PERFORM OPC: >> Input/output error". > > If you are concerned about this, you could try cdrecord > to see if it makes a difference. > >> Can limiting write speed avoid these errors? > > That depends on both the drive and the media. > It's also possible that it makes matters worse, though. > > It's a myth that reducing speed guarantees better results. > >> And what ways are there to >> detect the fastest speed supported by both drive and media? > > The drive is supposed to figure it out on its own. > > If your drive supports it, you can use readcd to measure how > well burned media can be read and do a couple of experiments > with various burn speeds to see if it affects the results for > your drives and the media you care about. The plot thickens. These OPC errors appeared on several older (2006) IDE DVD drives connected through various USB to IDE adapters. Connected to an actual IDE controller, no errors. The USB system not passing something through that it should, maybe. Or possibly the USB to IDE hardware, but that seems less likely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 03:13:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8B01F9 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD16C8FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FA817010; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:06:12 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:06:11 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:13:26 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 > andrew clarke wrote: > >> On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier >> (realmo.mercier@gmail.com) wrote: >> >>> Bonjour, >>> >>> Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je >>> souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa >>> sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous >>> s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa >>> date de sortie >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html >> >> PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. > > I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. > > Erich >> _______________________________________________ Aloha Erich, I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 03:25:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360DA367 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22998FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9B3Pf9t028368; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:25:43 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:25:41 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: noc@hdk5.net Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121011102541.1af44060@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:25:45 -0000 Hi Al, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:06:11 -1000 Al Plant wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. > > Aloha Erich, > my wife loves you. This is for sure. Why? She loves your place. > I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. > In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. > There are two kind of spams. One comes directly via the list and one comes only to the addresses used at the list. > Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? If I use my other e-mail addresses which are not registered, I get an message that the mail needs approval. The person who approves should block the spam coming via the list. But I also get some spam from people who harvested my address there. It is still not enough to make me a special filter rule. > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 Even for the fact that I do not have a reason to complain, your address sounds cool. Erich > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis > Carrol > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 06:07:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD24A75B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6B8FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id 9i4o1k00D4XeM0101i4pXU; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Al Plant Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 > >andrew clarke wrote: > > > >>On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier > >>(realmo.mercier@gmail.com) wrote: > >> > >>>Bonjour, > >>> > >>>Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je > >>>souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa > >>>sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous > >>>s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa > >>>date de sortie > >>http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html > >> > >>PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. > > > >I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. > > > >Erich > >>_______________________________________________ > > Aloha Erich, > > I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. > In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. > > Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > aloha al! I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's filters, but it is. gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 06:27:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AA1DED for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128A38FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9B6RVSN004072; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:27:33 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:27:30 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121011132730.799abd9d@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:27:36 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 > > >andrew clarke wrote: > > > > > >>On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, Ren=C3=A9 Mercier > > >>(realmo.mercier@gmail.com) wrote: > > >> > > >>>Bonjour, > > >>> > > >>>Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les r=C3=A9seaux, je > > >>>souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilit=C3=A9 et pour sa > > >>>s=C3=A9curit=C3=A9,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourrie= z vous > > >>>s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release =C3=A0 venir et = sa > > >>>date de sortie > > >>http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html > > >> > > >>PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. > > > > > >I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. > > > > > >Erich > > >>_______________________________________________ > >=20 > > Aloha Erich, > >=20 > > I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. > > In several languages including Chinese and French as well as > > English. > >=20 > > Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? > >=20 > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis > > Carrol > >=20 >=20 > aloha al! >=20 > I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam > in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's > filters, but it is. >=20 I took a look at one of the spam mails. The header looks like this: Return-Path: Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9AKN55i005588 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:23:06 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BA203799; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0E2D06; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F6C67 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+freebsd-stable=3Dfreebsd.org@to.benaughty.com) Received: from me20.to.frindr.net (me20.to.frindr.net [70.33.212.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88788FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by me20.to.frindr.net (Postfix) with QMQP id 4E1E7301038 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=3D1; a=3Drsa-sha1; c=3Drelaxed/relaxed; d=3Dbenaughty.com; s=3Dto; t=3D1349898743; bh=3Dv8GVq7lXQBvGUXBVXF9xdjLIwxk=3D; h=3DMIME-Version:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:From:Reply-To:Subject: Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:To; b=3DPeb/n29Jvys2WqT4eslGuADZLrXVVj31xJRRUW/yHQVeNst8vwe8jR1/HR+yaEfca FtOdaor2xY2Q55emnfQWJQDwfhLJm9//ilbufZCm0oRqeOiX7688rdNXVJB/mDQxET BZ0sLGBVlnpZ+ZM1zDuaX85XynxsmU7hucJMWlug=3D MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Frindr Ltd X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Frindr X-Campaign-Id: 084693 X-Dating: 3b87203fdf6ba6b75457570b493fbc6fZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc=3D From: BeNaughty Subject: Get your 25% premium discount for FREE to contact 1.3 million girls! Message-ID: <084693.mbp0iy.b9gpwc@benaughty.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:52:10 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: BeNaughty List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-UIDL: 09H!! Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9B67nvS032260 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:07:49 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB81A9065; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF3A7B3; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD24A75B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6B8FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with=20 id 9i4o1k00D4XeM0101i4pXU; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Al Plant Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by alogreentechnologies.com id q9B67nvS032260 X-UIDL: (B8!!n^Y!!k*h!!hjE"! This looks to me that both senders are registered with FreeBSD.org. The only other alternative would be that it is now possible to send messages to the list directly without registration. I do not believe that the PCs of people here running Windows are abused. It just does not look like. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 08:32:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8CBA16 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales04@peak-pcb.net) Received: from mail.umail174.cn4e.com (mail.umail174.cn4e.com [117.27.141.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16728FC08 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 201103201203 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.umail174.cn4e.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A6609F8319 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:32:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from 201103201203 (unknown [116.24.218.71]) by mail.umail174.cn4e.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:32:36 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <294581A28ACF48EEB6E5C93AF574B34F@201103201203> From: To: Subject: RFQ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:32:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "sales04@peak-pcb.net" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:32:47 -0000 RGVhciBTaXJzLA0KDQpJJ20gTWFyaWEgV2VuZyBjb21pbmcgZnJvbSBQRUFLIFBDQiBMSU1JVEVE IC5XZSBleHBvcnRpbmcgUENCKHByaW50ZWQgY2lyY3VpdCBib2FyZHMpIHdpdGggZ29vZCBxdWFs aXR5IGZvciBuZWFybHkgMTAgeWVhcnMgaW4gU2hlbnpoZW4sIENoaW5hLg0KDQpXZSBwcm9kdWNl IGFuZCBzZWxsIHRoZSBQQ0JzIGZvciBtYW55IHllYXJzLg0KDQpPdXIgc2VydmljZSBpbmNsdWRl OiANCjEuIFBDQiBwcm9kdWN0aW9uDQpleDpzYW1wbGUgYW5kIG1hc3MgcHJvZHVjdGlvbi4NCjIu IFBDQiBjb3B5DQozLiBSaWdpZCBQQ0INCjQuIEFsdW1pbnVtIFBDQi4NCg0KVGhlIGJvYXJkcyBp bmNsdWRlOiBzaW5nbGUgc2lkZWQsZG91YmxlIHNpZGVkLDIgbGF5ZXIsNCBsYXllciw2IGxheWVy Lg0KDQpGYXN0IGRlbGl2ZXJ5OiANClNhbXBsZXMgJiBzbWFsbCBwcm9kdWN0aW9uOiA0fjUgZGF5 c6OodXJnZW50IGRlbGl2ZXJ5IDJ+MyBkYXlzKQ0KTWFzcyBwcm9kdWN0aW9uOiA3fjggZGF5cy4N Cg0KV2UgYXJlIHNvIGdsYWQgdG8gaGVhciB5b3VyIG5ld3MseW91ciBpbnF1aXJ5IGlzIG91ciBH b2RkZXNzLg0KDQpXZSBhcmUgd2FpdGluZyBmb3IgeW91ciBmZWVkYmFjay4NCg0KSGF2ZSBhIG5p Y2UgZGF5IQ0KDQpCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsDQoNCg0KTWFyaWEgIFdlbmcNCg0KUEVBSyBQQ0IgTElN SVRFRA0KVGVsOiArODYtMDc1NS0yOTEwMDg3OQ0KRmF4IDorODYtMDc1NS0yOTEwOTE4MiAgDQpF bWFpbDogc2FsZXM0KGF0KXBlYWtwY2IuY29tDQpza3lwZTogcGVha3BjYmx0ZDQ= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 11:10:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86C4689 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karolis.eigelis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2538FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so3558929iea.13 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:10:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fPV3tpigDyw/WWlfsDa975MOPBCqbh2wOdgT6QGZmoY=; b=hH6W+zSk5NO29WchZZJ9zIUBo8i6NUlu2rr86aytCYK+pkkXJXQQmfAAWb414svLdO rnQbBGBMriz6ZSmSn400NIC9bDxYlz2oecgQgSW7UKPGsJKvu4nVJ8oCTXETt+xErgAw JA+OpcOjbPVdG/aCuAeFUr7F8sw7zBqyfcnn7K+pCU4Rhy8DC+6hYqmYCOK/cdxTEoMw hSF90P/VWqylQZu8CiJwJvsqKZMms9qjUL97Cgio4JVkHr9FjZ+UtqhBpHnE3e4B08ms Z2kHvv2U2I6TCjF6hX0034KXLPMwC7rUj2+OvAVTnUkPsKuxpAE0cvnhxlmY1D6hCJDu T35g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.33.138 with SMTP id r10mr454766igi.6.1349953809056; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.42.194 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:10:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: logging debug of hw.usb.debug=1 with syslog From: Karolis Eigelis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:10:09 -0000 Hi, i need to debug USB device and i want to log all the messages via syslog, but i do not know how to do that i looked at syslog.conf, but could find the flag i should use for debug.log. i used sysctl hw.usb.debug=1 lots of things i get printed out, but how to log them permanently ? Many Thanks, Karolis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 11:39:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC51F17 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE0C8FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so3610325iea.13 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iNeAFzntMglxmPXjSPcoGVLK8hCaboyAwk9+MpEtzps=; b=aXVLtZBW+qyeAjWGLwlPvNHP1hVRqzUn+iLE08H8U7d1pw9EWjq2kWDnEmTLMIMd6G GpTETbBPg5pAN+7ksgn76Y/4N0t/4ahM8/Ay1ahRJbps4gQMiTvTheFar8n75xI3wxF2 9bVux6orRxbLQlpa4GK0ct+84LlYU/S5BovLbgofTDcDI0eQMR4Z12uVh8pvbqfXX97u MSjgf1QNUdes90rDZjemxdGN6REstQSQcUSVrLphiR5rjY94LxhRctf4FfEEDoe182cg 5y+cR5fpxHU5sblR5Pw4sfiIjpwB7KWnAhtQHxtxnUfsBYU4HckaybjVYRXmn43QHcp1 P1gQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.171.4 with SMTP id aq4mr426581igc.72.1349955541008; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.13.204 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 04:39:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121011000342.bb5dc60e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121010203243.GA705@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121011000342.bb5dc60e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:39:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:39:01 -0000 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:43 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: >> I imagine it would be a lot of work to integrate it into the ports >> system not to mention it would take an age to compile it. >> >> There has been a lot of work done by developers to provide >> binaries for FreeBSD with the main texlive distribution so it's not >> necessary to integrate into the ports system. What would be nice is if >> certain ports that require a tex distribution can be used with the >> texlive distribution that available from tug.org already. >> >> Projects like Macports have been able to do this, if this became >> possible for FreeBSD ports then it would be great. > > While I see clear advantages in TeXlive being a "self-integrated > distribution of software", it doesn't really fit the idea of the > ports collection, which is a means to _centrally_ compile, > install (or fetch from precompiled packages from a trusted > source), patch, update or remove software by using system > tools (the pkg_* commands) or additional utilities (like > portmaster, portupgrade etc.). Having all the software bring > their own distribution system, web-based obtaining and their > own "micro-updating" mechanism (inside the software itself) > looks a bit outdated. > > Allow me to share my inspiration: What I primarily like about > the ports infrastructure is the fact that it combines several > tasks done to (or with) software by a standardized interface, > not distributing those tasks across the software itself. I can > use pkg_add, portmaster, "make install", even all of them, > and I don't even have to launch a web browser to search for > or manually download software. I also do not have to deal with > "micro-management" systems which is different from port to port. > All ports "talk the same language", e. g. "make deinstall" does > deinstall the port, no matter _which_ port I choose. > > I would really like to see TeXlive being available maybe as a > precompiled package (for use with pkg_add) so it can easily be > installed without actually fetching it from a "non-system" > source. Dependencies requesting a TeX package should honor > either _which_ TeX is already installed (teTeX or TeXlive) > or look at a configuration setting, for example WITH_TEX= in > /etc/make.conf, as I suggested. That could deliver a relatively > easy integration. > > Not relying on 3rd party sources is a great advantage. If you > use Java, you know what I'm refering to. Go to the web and > download it to distfiles/, then resume the build... :-) > > For building TeXlive: Some people intendedly _want_ to build > the stuff they use from source. Others are fine if "make install" > fetches some binaries somewhere and installs them (for example > this is what "make install" means for the Opera web browser in > the first place). Such a "binary distribution" would be easy > to implement, even though it might be quite huge (but that > could be changed by stripping all non-FreeBSD parts from > TeXlive). Still I see the "problem" of TeXlive's own package > management system. Integrating _that_ with subports (or > havving TeXlive as a metaport) doesn't look easy. > > As I don't need any feature of TeXlive, I'm _currently_ still > using teTeX because it does everything I need. But I agree > that TeXlive will be regarded _the_ TeX distribution in the > future, leaving teTeX in the past... > > > -- Polytropon The efforts by Romain Tartiere should not go unnoticed. For many years now, he has a port to texlive: https://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ It works with the FreeBSD tools that you mention and it updates the packages using the FreeBSD infrastructure. It happens that many people install texlive through the dvd and make several changes so that the tetex binaries do not get called on. I have the freebsd-texlive port installed and it works beautifully. I can typeset books which require it. I also use KerTeX, http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html which is smaller and also works great in its own right. What is kerTeX: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42234/what-is-kertex For many users kerTeX would do the job for many texing/latexing needs. However for bigger jobs, i.e, bigger books with many style files, & bigger macros then texlive is needed. TeTeX does work well for many things, but it is *NOT MAINTAINED, NOT UPDATED* despite the efforts of some people and packages like tikz don't work well *unless you can patch things up in the tex structure to make them work*. My $0.02 Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 12:37:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A3965B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC518FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9BCbfYL087419 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:37:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9BCbeNQ087418 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:37:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:37:40 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port Message-ID: <20121011123740.GA87308@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121010203243.GA705@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121011000342.bb5dc60e.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:37:44 -0000 [ Antonio Olivares wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 6:39:00 -0500 ] > The efforts by Romain Tartiere should not go unnoticed. For many > years now, he has a port to texlive: > > https://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ > > It works with the FreeBSD tools that you mention and it updates the > packages using the FreeBSD infrastructure. It happens that many > people install texlive through the dvd and make several changes so > that the tetex binaries do not get called on. > > I have the freebsd-texlive port installed and it works beautifully. I > can typeset books which require it. I also use KerTeX, > > http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html > > which is smaller and also works great in its own right. What is > kerTeX: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42234/what-is-kertex > > For many users kerTeX would do the job for many texing/latexing needs. > However for bigger jobs, i.e, bigger books with many style files, & > bigger macros then texlive is needed. TeTeX does work well for many > things, but it is *NOT MAINTAINED, NOT UPDATED* despite the efforts of > some people and packages like tikz don't work well *unless you can > patch things up in the tex structure to make them work*. Yes I agree. As well as Romain, Nikola Lecic has done a great deal of work with getting texlive made available for FreeBSD - I'm sure there are others as well. I recall a couple of years ago, tug.org completely removed support for FreeBSD which prompted, I believe, the projects that Romain and Nikola started. Thanks to Nikola, who I *think* is still involved with the texlive project and namely support for FreeBSD, this problem no longer exists and the texlive distribution now supports FreeBSD. KerTeX is something I've yet to try, but I'm extremely interested in what it has to offer. It's innovative and a remarkable amount of work and certainly worth using for those using TeX regularly. NetBSD, or rather pkgsrc, and Linux software packaging systems as I'm sure you know have broken it down into portions of the distribution which is a sensible approach as modest users of TeX will most likely use only a small percentage of the software that comes with texlive. Perhaps a similar approach could be implemented into the FreeBSD ports system. I do think moving away from tetex for good is needed now. With all the changes to FreeBSD going on, ports relying on a dead project like tetex seems wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 12:46:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55F1A1D for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4008FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so1451057lag.13 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:46:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=uUoTFL18HcplXcDGitvnUJYwSPyAjOVNaqt3Zg9kdkg=; b=GVSIHSGySgqtH+jXpKhQn4io7yTo7YorbDd8TMuSLLQKPt3auuhWrnBpHMuqGxq6UF 8igiROw/kUgC3v0JaI8nUvjE02BblVq7+XHCQDUN2d0CCa0seAdSAdMzjGulS4r8aKC9 FwbGmi76CJI/KpIPF52fzESBKHQyLhz6hS6IFWxp+ViVANESiVUaGfyvdsdLcgHqavfW 9eED8olalQRT8aPWvY4nuM28VBPQI/wZ3LQcB7qnGAXMELj5o1F0kpt2NdLWDVx7/fUB HZ0ZsqesxzO32SUZJ2BDUEvSZHe1/1zxnSC/sOc5q/ewfNgnQE2Mcq07WXqenlMTBfYE nA/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.43.34 with SMTP id t2mr431737lbl.109.1349959593860; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.144.198 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:46:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B2gxqlHTFp1yiBu7ADLay9n0nvI Message-ID: Subject: Adding boot options to the loader menu From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:46:35 -0000 Hi All, If you have any interest, I have posted a blog about adding boot options to the loader menu... http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/11/so-you-want-a-new-freebsd-boot-loader-option/ -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 14:03:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5224EDBC for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3338FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so3961578iea.13 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gbvtfWNT8hGGe242dLrhhCKu7ec1unkG7aah3plFJAI=; b=e4Dl7sxQHSUcsS9iSr0uxwj8im88/jld1ck3smd0GDQKloWUsL0eya/heKW0onLRp7 TNC6Hog++xQCEkXGKSsHSoIDk2Ki++23BxS+Ne7Q3lj92oZ7NSpmfFDGqQKbeyHbxqAv KCv2K4wDAdyw5X2qmO7cMsd0FzQaoAiO3Am9C3UttXdRJfXbDi+6yShuRakpcCb6WjWK VUXor+s7BFly95zTMDkxBqiraNDQnw6I1UHvk7Nb7VfFasaD+s/ahYYGQqb7SNn8aUpm BMfQHAs2X2yaYARrlJrHRSTpaqxRr2UBnN0jiwZcabkl5i8H8r3OPECTGzsLkCdnDBqk gtNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.190.161 with SMTP id gr1mr858290igc.74.1349964207597; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.13.204 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121011123740.GA87308@kontrol.kode5.net> References: <20121010015528.GA29059@shellx.eskimo.com> <20121010130144.GA12086@osx.kode5.net> <20121010174925.bf530323.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121010160144.GA13359@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121010203243.GA705@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121011000342.bb5dc60e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121011123740.GA87308@kontrol.kode5.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:03:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-texlive port From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:03:28 -0000 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote= : > [ Antonio Olivares wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 6:39:00 -0500 ] > > >> The efforts by Romain Tartiere should not go unnoticed. For many >> years now, he has a port to texlive: >> >> https://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ >> >> It works with the FreeBSD tools that you mention and it updates the >> packages using the FreeBSD infrastructure. It happens that many >> people install texlive through the dvd and make several changes so >> that the tetex binaries do not get called on. >> >> I have the freebsd-texlive port installed and it works beautifully. I >> can typeset books which require it. I also use KerTeX, >> >> http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html >> >> which is smaller and also works great in its own right. What is >> kerTeX: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42234/what-is-kertex >> >> For many users kerTeX would do the job for many texing/latexing needs. >> However for bigger jobs, i.e, bigger books with many style files, & >> bigger macros then texlive is needed. TeTeX does work well for many >> things, but it is *NOT MAINTAINED, NOT UPDATED* despite the efforts of >> some people and packages like tikz don't work well *unless you can >> patch things up in the tex structure to make them work*. > > Yes I agree. As well as Romain, Nikola Lecic has done a great deal of wor= k with getting texlive made available for FreeBSD - I'm sure there are othe= rs as well. > > I recall a couple of years ago, tug.org completely removed support for Fr= eeBSD which prompted, I believe, the projects that Romain and Nikola starte= d. Thanks to Nikola, who I *think* is still involved with the texlive proje= ct and namely support for FreeBSD, this problem no longer exists and the te= xlive distribution now supports FreeBSD. > > KerTeX is something I've yet to try, but I'm extremely interested in what= it has to offer. It's innovative and a remarkable amount of work and certa= inly worth using for those using TeX regularly. NetBSD, or rather pkgsrc, a= nd Linux software packaging systems as I'm sure you know have broken it dow= n into portions of the distribution which is a sensible approach as modest = users of TeX will most likely use only a small percentage of the software t= hat comes with texlive. Perhaps a similar approach could be implemented int= o the FreeBSD ports system. > > I do think moving away from tetex for good is needed now. With all the ch= anges to FreeBSD going on, ports relying on a dead project like tetex seems= wrong. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" If I am not mistaken one of the reasons that FreeBSD has not moved to texlive is because of the documentation. The documentation project makes calls to generate handbook and change between different versions sgml, to tex and then use pdflatex which is/was part of teteX. Texlive has it also, but the job from within the FreeBSD developers has not made changes to this. KerTeX does not have pdftex or pdflatex which TeTeX still does carry so moving to it would also mean many changes. Some people complain that Texlive port/ports are too big and that teTeX was reasonable and event though a texlive-tetex port exists, but I guess not to many developers are fond of texlive. If you or anyone else is interested in kerTeX, I have a script that automates the installation and most or if not all of the supplemantary packages, i.e, addons that are available. I have it on several of my machines and I am happy to use it. [olivares@grullahighschool ~]$ which_kertex # WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! # # 1) The path separator is now, everywhere, semicolon ';' and not # colon ':'. # 2) The pkg stuff is now in /usr/local/share/kertex/pkg/. Run instead of pkg_core: # /bin/sh /usr/local/share/kertex/pkg/kertex.sh install # KERTEX_VERSION=3D0.9999.6.2 KERTEX_HOST=3Dfreebsd-amd64-8.3-RELEASE-p3 KERTEX_SHELL=3D/bin/sh KERTEX_BINDIR=3D/usr/local/bin/kertex KERTEX_LIBDIR=3D/usr/local/share/kertex KERTEX_MANDIR=3D/usr/local/share/kertex/man KERTEX_USER0=3Droot KERTEX_GROUP0=3Dwheel Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 14:47:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02028A6B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from esmtp3.webtent.net (esmtp3.webtent.net [216.139.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9644A8FC12 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by esmtp3.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id BBDA42E27A for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from esmtp3.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76510-07 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (74-131-216-248.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.131.216.248]) (Authenticated sender: robert@esmtp3.webtent.net) by esmtp3.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id BAF242E2CC for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5076DAA6.9070203@webtent.org> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:41:42 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: gmirror degraded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:47:12 -0000 Just looking for some advice, I had a server lock up that uses gmirror for two RAID-1 arrays of the primary drive and a data drive. The data drive was reported as degraded after a reset of the server, but is rebuilding. It is comprised of two TB drives with one reporting ACTIVE with no flags. The other synchronizing and taking days... Geom name: d1 State: DEGRADED Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 ID: 2434624761 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/d1 Mediasize: 999653637632 (931G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r2w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ada1p1 Mediasize: 999653638144 (931G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 17408 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 ID: 175176036 2. Name: ada3p1 Mediasize: 999653638144 (931G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 17408 Mode: r1w1e1 State: SYNCHRONIZING Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY, SYNCHRONIZING GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 Synchronized: 91% ID: 4158324973 I ran the smartctl command below on the synchronizing drive and it seems there are no errors? Should I trust this drive? backup# /usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada3 smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE i386] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Device Model: ST31000528AS Serial Number: 9VP8EKVV LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 026d2b322 Firmware Version: CC3E User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4 Local Time is: Thu Oct 11 10:36:54 2012 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 600) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 175) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x103f) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 113 097 006 Pre-fail Always - 108410580 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 095 095 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 34 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 076 076 036 Pre-fail Always - 1003 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 074 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 25881764 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 079 079 000 Old_age Always - 18567 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 17 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 098 096 000 Old_age Always - 665730089115 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 073 053 045 Old_age Always - 27 (Min/Max 24/33) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 027 047 000 Old_age Always - 27 (0 18 0 0 0) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 023 019 000 Old_age Always - 108410580 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 49280454772789 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 3747398897 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 2873229601 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 12756 - # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 12750 - # 3 Extended offline Aborted by host 90% 12750 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. 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X-PHP-Originating-Script: 33:CHtmlMimeMail.class.php MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: HtmlMimeMail Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:32:39 -0600 Sender-IP: 64.90.194.181 From: Property Solutions X-PS-Header-Version: 1.0 X-PS-System-Email-Id: 77916182 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Property Solutions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:11:59 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 18:20:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76476299 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300A38FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9BIK2lb051720; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:20:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9BIK2PO051717; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:20:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:20:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Fitzpatrick Subject: Re: gmirror degraded In-Reply-To: <5076DAA6.9070203@webtent.org> Message-ID: References: <5076DAA6.9070203@webtent.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:20:05 -0000 On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just looking for some advice, I had a server lock up that uses gmirror > for two RAID-1 arrays of the primary drive and a data drive. The data > drive was reported as degraded after a reset of the server, but is > rebuilding. It is comprised of two TB drives with one reporting ACTIVE > with no flags. The other synchronizing and taking days... You mean it does this repeatedly? > I ran the smartctl command below on the synchronizing drive and it seems > there are no errors? Should I trust this drive? 1,003 reallocated sectors is a bad sign. I would replace that drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 18:50:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FFCADA for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stuart@islogistics.com) Received: from pub2.fourmajor.com (fourmajor.com [69.55.234.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC268FC19 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.115] (ip68-228-85-63.oc.oc.cox.net [68.228.85.63]) (Authenticated sender: stu) by pub2.fourmajor.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE99A11598 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:43:04 -0700 From: Stuart Matthews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121005 Thunderbird/16.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:50:46 -0000 Hi everyone, I am including as much information in here as I think will be useful. Since I can do snapshots on VMWare, I am happy to try any solution or diagnostics. Steps I took to upgrade FreeBSD: Using freebsd-update, I upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE-p8 Then, to upgrade to 9.0-RELEASE, I ran the following commands, using http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html as my guide: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install portupgrade -f ruby rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db portupgrade -af freebsd-update install reboot I noticed that lots of things weren't working, and specifically that I was getting lots of complaints about /libexec/ld-elf.so.1. I also noticed that when I ran freebsd-update IDS, it seemed to report that every single file had the wrong signature. So, this being a VMWare guest, I reluctantly reverted to a previous snapshot, putting me back at 7.2-RELEASE-p8. I decided to try this time to go from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE to 8.3-RELEASE. I only got to 7.4-RELEASE before I had the same issues as above. As a specific example of errors I would get, I try to run sudo and I get: [stuart@richelieu ~]$ sudo bash /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: sudo: invalid PT_PHDR This seems to be the most relevant thread to the problem I'm having: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218443.html However, I'd be more comfortable using an official upgrade path, like freebsd-update, exclusively. That thread involves replacing a file from a FreeBSD liveCD. Also, with freebsd-update IDS reporting so many files with incorrect signatures, I feel like my problem is bigger than fixing one file. Right now I am back on 7.2-RELEASE-p8 eager to get my OS upgraded to something that is under current support by the security team. Optimally I'd like to be on 8.3 after looking at the EOL dates. Also, I did see one other post _somewhere_ mentioning a similar problem, also on a VMWare guest. So I am suspicious that the problem might be related to VMWare. Thanks, everyone. - Stuart Matthews From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 20:45:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A8ECB1 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683048FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 9wjD1k00K4XeM0101wjEM3; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:15 -0700 x-spam-cmae: v=2.0 cv=TYcURGsh c=1 sm=1 p=E-XzFTzLAAAA:20 p=YMjxySi5AAAA:8 a=khiUACD1BUVNR+5ViU91hw==:17 a=wom5GMh1gUkA:10 a=J_JjmYnydj0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=rWdDcm16AAAA:8 a=lXxkugh9ZLwA:10 a=SPy4uJSOAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=8XdxKcBfAAAA:8 a=E5uG-7t_AAAA:8 a=9TnPbBccAAAA:8 a=O7UxgQScAAAA:8 a=0xsI6tWOAAAA:8 a=9kYh05RIAAAA:8 a=qRU0BIVgAAAA:8 a=8a5zoOQ-AAAA:8 a=TZb1taSUAAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=9niSDkNhAAAA:8 a=eypaTzzcAAAA:8 a=ebsj_FKV82QYs8TzA9AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Os7YOVzf3-8A:10 a=WG0qjOrxZx0A:10 a=il6ZqaaW9nAA:10 a=Yx0Mq4LiQjkA:10 a=HgfhuSuRusQA:10 a=9rsXVv_AoXEA:10 a=EB9UpGriDLEA:10 a=2p2GDLDZek8A:10 a=-A6hmpIbBgwA:10 a=smguGH0wzyMA:10 a=MyP5pLfSnLsA:10 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=jgoaQNzrKcYA:10 a=csR6MQbdxioA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=fwB95NgSuesA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=GwhHd1kcNNMA:10 a=u2Evxa1aHLUA:10 a=ifSvhpiCerMA:10 a=dFE0Y_XH_NMA:10 a=IC9J9WGhc20A:10 a=IDTIx3_SM2UA:10 a=jTRTsEuWVUcA:10 a=PgQ0ykb7T31Alja0:21 a=4SoaLex5GJiZLuCO:21 a=J0nzza4g_I6QGiGO:21 a=khiUACD1BUVNR+5ViU91hw==:117 x-spam-account: kline@thought.org x-spam-domain: thought.org Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121011204313.GC14205@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> <20121011132730.799abd9d@X220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20121011132730.799abd9d@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:45:52 -0000 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, hello erich and everyone, im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859 iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua. until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non- Latin characters. --cont below-- > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 > > > >andrew clarke wrote: > > > > > > > >>On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier > > > >>(realmo.mercier@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>Bonjour, > > > >>> > > > >>>Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je > > > >>>souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa > > > >>>sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous > > > >>>s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa > > > >>>date de sortie > > > >>http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html > > > >> > > > >>PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. > > > > > > > >I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. > > > > > > > >Erich > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > > > > Aloha Erich, > > > > > > I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. > > > In several languages including Chinese and French as well as > > > English. > > > > > > Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? > > > > > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > > > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > > > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > > > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis > > > Carrol > > > > > > > aloha al! > > > > I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam > > in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's > > filters, but it is. > > > I took a look at one of the spam mails. The header looks like this: > > Return-Path: > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) > by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id > q9AKN55i005588 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 > 14:23:06 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org > [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BA203799; > Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:52 +0000 (UTC) > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0E2D06; > Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:44 +0000 (UTC) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) > Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F6C67 > for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:32 +0000 (UTC) > (envelope-from bounce+freebsd-stable=freebsd.org@to.benaughty.com) > Received: from me20.to.frindr.net (me20.to.frindr.net [70.33.212.83]) > by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88788FC08 > for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:31 +0000 (UTC) > Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) > by me20.to.frindr.net (Postfix) with QMQP id 4E1E7301038 > for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=benaughty.com; > s=to; t=1349898743; bh=v8GVq7lXQBvGUXBVXF9xdjLIwxk=; > h=MIME-Version:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:From:Reply-To:Subject: > Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:To; > b=Peb/n29Jvys2WqT4eslGuADZLrXVVj31xJRRUW/yHQVeNst8vwe8jR1/HR+yaEfca > FtOdaor2xY2Q55emnfQWJQDwfhLJm9//ilbufZCm0oRqeOiX7688rdNXVJB/mDQxET > BZ0sLGBVlnpZ+ZM1zDuaX85XynxsmU7hucJMWlug= > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Organization: Frindr Ltd > X-Priority: 3 > X-Mailer: Frindr > X-Campaign-Id: 084693 > X-Dating: > 3b87203fdf6ba6b75457570b493fbc6fZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= > From: BeNaughty Subject: Get your 25% premium > discount for FREE to contact 1.3 million girls! Message-ID: > <084693.mbp0iy.b9gpwc@benaughty.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:52:10 > +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 > X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: BeNaughty > List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code > List-Unsubscribe: > , > > List-Archive: > List-Post: List-Help: > > List-Subscribe: > , > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: > 7bit Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: > owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-UIDL: 09H!! > while yours looks like this: > > Return-Path: > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) > by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id > q9B67nvS032260 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 > 00:07:49 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org > [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB81A9065; > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:36 +0000 (UTC) > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF3A7B3; > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:34 +0000 (UTC) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) > Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD24A75B > for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +0000 > (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) > Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net > (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) > by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6B8FC0A > for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +0000 > (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) > by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with > id 9i4o1k00D4XeM0101i4pXU; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:49 -0700 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > To: Al Plant > Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. > Message-ID: <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> > References: > > <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> > <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Disposition: inline > In-Reply-To: <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) > Cc: Erich Dollansky , > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > Precedence: list > List-Id: User questions > List-Unsubscribe: > , > > List-Archive: > List-Post: List-Help: > > List-Subscribe: > , > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Errors-To: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by > alogreentechnologies.com id q9B67nvS032260 X-UIDL: (B8!!n^Y!!k*h!!hjE"! > > This looks to me that both senders are registered with FreeBSD.org. The > only other alternative would be that it is now possible to send > messages to the list directly without registration. hmm. for the -questions list, users did not have to register or subscribe. unless things have changed. and since I neither read nor write chinese nor arabic--simplified or otherwise, there is no way I could have signed up for this spam mail. > > I do not believe that the PCs of people here running Windows are > abused. It just does not look like. > > Erich looking at the postmark stuff just above, the email to you from freebsd-questions looks normal. ...apologies in advance for my appending the spam that I got from . it might have been sent from Anywhere. ===== Interesting. until now, I've just been deleting this junk. recently, a friend and I switched my registrar and I included my gmail mail. my best guess is that this was sent thru google. it then was pop'd to my fetchmail. evidently, mutt knows how to render this iso encoding. &c, &c. it may be fixable by just editing my fetchmail.rc file. (the next 400 lines are encoded or so much html garbage... .) I've always used kline@thought.org [and mutt so I can use vi[m], but if any list-member knows if google has a spam filter---say, from 0 to 99, I'll up it to 99! gary ===== >From uhrda-15@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012 Received: from pop.where.secureserver.net [173.201.193.199] by ethos.thought.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.22) for (single-drop); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 30297); 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([72.167.238.180]) (envelope-sender ) by p3plsmtp12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMSADx+dlDRVda4k2dsb2JhbABEgkuDR7Z6gT9nCCMBAQEBCQkLCRQEI4IjBQIPAg8dAQEEFh4FAQIBBQIIPQcCAgIBAQEZBREBBQERJAUdh08BEguaNwkDimhuT4J2AQWFCAoZgQ2IdQIEi0eFDoESB4hUhECXIz9Fg2o Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]) by p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id x4sf1055803obh.21 for ; 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 00:49:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B501E4C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690CA8FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TMTRI-000EEx-Dh; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:49:23 -0400 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAEF116F875E; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:49:19 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Matthews References: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> In-Reply-To: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Subject: Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:49:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/12 2:43 PM, Stuart Matthews wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am including as much information in here as I think will be > useful. Since I can do snapshots on VMWare, I am happy to try any > solution or diagnostics. Steps I took to upgrade FreeBSD: Using > freebsd-update, I upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE-p8 Then, > to upgrade to 9.0-RELEASE, I ran the following commands, using > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > as my guide: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update > install reboot freebsd-update install portupgrade -f ruby rm > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb rm > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db portupgrade -af > freebsd-update install reboot > > I noticed that lots of things weren't working, and specifically > that I was getting lots of complaints about /libexec/ld-elf.so.1. I > also noticed that when I ran freebsd-update IDS, it seemed to > report that every single file had the wrong signature. > > So, this being a VMWare guest, I reluctantly reverted to a > previous snapshot, putting me back at 7.2-RELEASE-p8. > > I decided to try this time to go from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4-RELEASE > to 8.0-RELEASE to 8.3-RELEASE. I only got to 7.4-RELEASE before I > had the same issues as above. As a specific example of errors I > would get, I try to run sudo and I get: [stuart@richelieu ~]$ sudo > bash /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: sudo: invalid PT_PHDR > > This seems to be the most relevant thread to the problem I'm > having: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218443.html > > However, I'd be more comfortable using an official upgrade path, > like freebsd-update, exclusively. That thread involves replacing a > file from a FreeBSD liveCD. Also, with freebsd-update IDS reporting > so many files with incorrect signatures, I feel like my problem is > bigger than fixing one file. > > Right now I am back on 7.2-RELEASE-p8 eager to get my OS upgraded > to something that is under current support by the security team. > Optimally I'd like to be on 8.3 after looking at the EOL dates. > > Also, I did see one other post _somewhere_ mentioning a similar > proble also on a VMWare guest. So I am suspicious that the problem > might be related to VMWare. > > Thanks, everyone. > > - Stuart Matthews Hi Stuart, If you click the link in this mailing list article (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218554.html), then follow the rest of the threaded messages, you should be able fix the problem once you upgrade to 7.4. The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf.so.1 binary on a running system, so after the upgrade to 7.4 (or higher), the system is not completely updated. This message (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html) has a fix, but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the binary manually. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlB3aQ8ACgkQ0sRouByUApAj2QCgjZZKHLHa04PM3qhtKfwuzJpq D0MAn3uolwsr/ukwGSxLXK42410IfMt8 =JiOa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 03:49:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E159DB for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526968FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9C3nZ18032427; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:49:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:49:34 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121012104934.0b58c903@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121011204313.GC14205@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> <20121011132730.799abd9d@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121011204313.GC14205@ethic.thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:49:50 -0000 Hi Gary, On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > hello erich and everyone, > > im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would not be able to sleep then either. > so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still > on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the > bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if > you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859 > iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua. > until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non- > Latin characters. Let me see what you got. > for my appending the spam that I got from . it > might have been sent from Anywhere. It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of FreeBSD have been between. > > > >From uhrda-15@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012 > Received: from pop.where.secureserver.net [173.201.193.199] > by ethos.thought.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.22) > for (single-drop); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 > 01:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 30297); 11 > Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO > p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([72.167.238.180]) > (envelope-sender > ) by > p3plsmtp12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for > ; 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: > AiMSADx+dlDRVda4k2dsb2JhbABEgkuDR7Z6gT9nCCMBAQEBCQkLCRQEI4IjBQIPAg8dAQEEFh4FAQIBBQIIPQcCAgIBAQEZBREBBQERJAUdh08BEguaNwkDimhuT4J2AQWFCAoZgQ2IdQIEi0eFDoESB4hUhECXIz9Fg2o > Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]) by > p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012 > 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id > x4sf1055803obh.21 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 > -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; > h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; > bh=jMFZmAQdT+pN7T6QKNSP2XkXpR1aCJ1+Wwtbzb2StxM=; > b=jPb2itO+q4lJZ9J8x8DIaPCegwCUkLJvIshfIA680YoMkZXW75RlpD+gCRtmmdsU7g > A6qeq75zQpbzkMHzwCXyQjNCxXFN/J2Ldi5AChZgi21i0BCELW7gOpBxcsdcpwr6qlGy > rVjws1Cnyzx/sZ6nX7J+Y1escXN7oPTWVQL6aqqqgkGXpW8ce6vJLE/lAEke8Jsdx2QW > hZ+klU5MPA700mA+ZE+0qYGHSv2D9DolX3+ilivKy9QiMHYFpyt+/njC533tyTtRISxu > j3QpnxjbSv+MYMy7bg4RPFtnZQY7wYvK0NWXQymo5VLtjvxu0QXDJPghZDEsrMtgVnOE > o5jw== > Received: by 10.52.28.45 with SMTP id y13mr7790vdg.10.1349943226444; > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > X-BeenThere: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com > Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls1027454vcu.8.gmail; Thu, > 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.52.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr6251vdv.17.1349943224082; > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: hamdy ahmed > To: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com > Message-Id: <29039954-caad-40fe-a3be-d06d79027b2c@googlegroups.com> > Subject: =?UTF-8?B?2YjYsdi02Kkg2LnZhdmEIDogKNiq2YbZhdmK2Kkg2Ygg?= > =?UTF-8?B?2KrYt9mI2YrYsSDYp9mE2YXZh9in2LHYp9iqINin2YTYpdiv2Kc=?= > =?UTF-8?B?2LHZitipKdin2LPYt9mG2KjZiNmEIOKAkyDYqtix2YPZitinIA==?= > =?UTF-8?B?IDIyIOKAkyAzMSDYr9mK2LPZhdio2LEyMDEy2YU=?= > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Original-Sender: uhrda1000@gmail.com > Reply-To: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com > Precedence: list > Mailing-list: list uhrda-15@googlegroups.com; contact > uhrda-15+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: > X-Google-Group-Id: 474025889798 > List-Post: , > List-Help: > , > List-Archive: > Sender: > uhrda-15@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: > , > List-Unsubscribe: > , > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_Part_304_10870051.1349943223713" X-Nonspam: None > Status: RO Content-Length: 22859 Lines: 387 > I get hundreds of them. All get handled properly on my system except the one coming via FreeBSd.org as my system sees FreeBSD.org as a serious sender. This might be the reason those people try it now that way. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 04:36:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840C2EB6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFC08FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMWyf-0005eP-EJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:36:01 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:36:01 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:36:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: portmaster options Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 7 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:36:05 -0000 Hi, what is the diff between --index and --index-only jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 05:10:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FC7730 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 657248FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5582 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2012 05:03:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.180.213.209) by p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.231) with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2012 05:03:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:49 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121012050349.GA12573@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> <20121011132730.799abd9d@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121011204313.GC14205@ethic.thought.org> <20121012104934.0b58c903@X220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121012104934.0b58c903@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:10:30 -0000 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi Gary, > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > hello erich and everyone, > > > > im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, > > oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would > not be able to sleep then either. ha! never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer. my daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on. it is long-gone:) > > > so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still > > on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the > > bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if > > you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859 > > iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua. > > until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non- > > Latin characters. > > Let me see what you got. > > > for my appending the spam that I got from . it > > might have been sent from Anywhere. > > It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of > FreeBSD have been between. > > it looks to me like this [and probably my other junk email] is coming from the lines in my ~/.fetchmailrc that go out and pull in what is sent to my gmail account. [rarely, there is spam from one of the freebsd lists--usually questions.] instead of getting mad, I just hit "d" and move on. > > > > >From uhrda-15@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012 > > Received: from pop.where.secureserver.net [173.201.193.199] > > by ethos.thought.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.22) > > for (single-drop); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 > > 01:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 30297); 11 > > Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO > > p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([72.167.238.180]) > > (envelope-sender > > ) by > > p3plsmtp12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for > > ; 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 > > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: > > AiMSADx+dlDRVda4k2dsb2JhbABEgkuDR7Z6gT9nCCMBAQEBCQkLCRQEI4IjBQIPAg8dAQEEFh4FAQIBBQIIPQcCAgIBAQEZBREBBQERJAUdh08BEguaNwkDimhuT4J2AQWFCAoZgQ2IdQIEi0eFDoESB4hUhECXIz9Fg2o > > Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]) by > > p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012 > > 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id > > x4sf1055803obh.21 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 > > -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > > d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; > > h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; > > bh=jMFZmAQdT+pN7T6QKNSP2XkXpR1aCJ1+Wwtbzb2StxM=; > > b=jPb2itO+q4lJZ9J8x8DIaPCegwCUkLJvIshfIA680YoMkZXW75RlpD+gCRtmmdsU7g > > A6qeq75zQpbzkMHzwCXyQjNCxXFN/J2Ldi5AChZgi21i0BCELW7gOpBxcsdcpwr6qlGy > > rVjws1Cnyzx/sZ6nX7J+Y1escXN7oPTWVQL6aqqqgkGXpW8ce6vJLE/lAEke8Jsdx2QW > > hZ+klU5MPA700mA+ZE+0qYGHSv2D9DolX3+ilivKy9QiMHYFpyt+/njC533tyTtRISxu > > j3QpnxjbSv+MYMy7bg4RPFtnZQY7wYvK0NWXQymo5VLtjvxu0QXDJPghZDEsrMtgVnOE > > o5jw== > > Received: by 10.52.28.45 with SMTP id y13mr7790vdg.10.1349943226444; > > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > > X-BeenThere: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com > > Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls1027454vcu.8.gmail; Thu, > > 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: by 10.52.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr6251vdv.17.1349943224082; > > Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) > > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:43 -0700 (PDT) > > From: hamdy ahmed > > To: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com > > Message-Id: <29039954-caad-40fe-a3be-d06d79027b2c@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: =?UTF-8?B?2YjYsdi02Kkg2LnZhdmEIDogKNiq2YbZhdmK2Kkg2Ygg?= > > =?UTF-8?B?2KrYt9mI2YrYsSDYp9mE2YXZh9in2LHYp9iqINin2YTYpdiv2Kc=?= > > =?UTF-8?B?2LHZitipKdin2LPYt9mG2KjZiNmEIOKAkyDYqtix2YPZitinIA==?= > > =?UTF-8?B?IDIyIOKAkyAzMSDYr9mK2LPZhdio2LEyMDEy2YU=?= > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > X-Original-Sender: uhrda1000@gmail.com > > Reply-To: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com > > Precedence: list > > Mailing-list: list uhrda-15@googlegroups.com; contact > > uhrda-15+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: > > X-Google-Group-Id: 474025889798 > > List-Post: , > > List-Help: > > , > > List-Archive: > > Sender: > > uhrda-15@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: > > , > > List-Unsubscribe: > > , > > > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_Part_304_10870051.1349943223713" X-Nonspam: None > > Status: RO Content-Length: 22859 Lines: 387 > > > > I get hundreds of them. All get handled properly on my system except > the one coming via FreeBSd.org as my system sees FreeBSD.org as a > serious sender. This might be the reason those people try it now that > way. yup, exactly. these sorry, pathetic guys see an easy way to spam and do it. ... . gary > > Erich -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 06:16:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D15F0 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98BF8FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from X220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9C6G9QD030929; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:16:11 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:16:08 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: <20121012131608.58506633@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20121012050349.GA12573@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121010083911.GA4754@ozzmosis.com> <20121010154957.11f9da8b@X220.ovitrap.com> <507637A3.1030900@hdk5.net> <20121011060448.GA14205@ethic.thought.org> <20121011132730.799abd9d@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121011204313.GC14205@ethic.thought.org> <20121012104934.0b58c903@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121012050349.GA12573@ethic.thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:16:14 -0000 Hi Gary, On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:49 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep > > > well, > > > > oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I > > would not be able to sleep then either. > > > ha! never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer. > my daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on. > it is long-gone:) you do not even know then what these people go through. > > > > Let me see what you got. > > > > yup, exactly. these sorry, pathetic guys see an easy way to > spam and do it. ... . > They have meet month's end. They needed the money ... 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Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746A18FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9C8rimn063664 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:53:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9C8rhLQ063663 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:53:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:53:43 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <20121012085343.GB18344@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:53:56 -0000 [ Greg Larkin wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 20:49:19 -0400 ] > Hi Stuart, > > If you click the link in this mailing list article > (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218554.html), > then follow the rest of the threaded messages, you should be able fix > the problem once you upgrade to 7.4. > > The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf.so.1 binary > on a running system, so after the upgrade to 7.4 (or higher), the > system is not completely updated. > > This message > (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html) > has a fix, but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the > binary manually. Would it be easier to do an update by building from source? I've never used freebsd-update myself so not had to troubleshoot these issues before. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 09:12:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708125A6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060BD8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:12:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:02:47 +0200 Message-ID: <5077DCB7.60807@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:02:47 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE References: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> <20121012085343.GB18344@kontrol.kode5.net> In-Reply-To: <20121012085343.GB18344@kontrol.kode5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:12:57 -0000 On 10/12/2012 10=3A53 AM=2C Jamie Paul Griffin wrote=3A =3E =5B Greg Larkin wrote on Thu 11=2EOct=2712 at 20=3A49=3A19 -0400 =5D =3E =3E=3E Hi Stuart=2C =3E=3E =3E=3E If you click the link in this mailing list article =3E=3E =28http=3A//lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-J= uly/218554=2Ehtml=29=2C =3E=3E then follow the rest of the threaded messages=2C you should be able= fix =3E=3E the problem once you upgrade to 7=2E4=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf=2Eso=2E1 b= inary =3E=3E on a running system=2C so after the upgrade to 7=2E4 =28or higher=29= =2C the =3E=3E system is not completely updated=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E This message =3E=3E =28http=3A//lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-J= uly/218884=2Ehtml=29 =3E=3E has a fix=2C but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the= =3E=3E binary manually=2E =3E Would it be easier to do an update by building from source=3F I=27ve ne= ver used freebsd-update myself so not had to troubleshoot these issues befo= re=2E That=27s probably the best way=2E Bit I am wondering about this=2E I upgraded several systems =28physical and virtual machines=29 with=20 freebsd-update from 7=2E1 -=3E 7=2E3 -=3E 8=2E1 -=3E 8=2E3 and also one sys= tem from 7=2E1 -=3E=20 7=2E4 =28with custom kernels=29 and did not encounter this=2E Did I just ge= t lucky then=3F This e-mail message=2C including any attachment=28s=29=2C is intended solel= y for the addressee or addressees=2E Any views or opinions presented herein= are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of O= SE=2E If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return t= his e-mail message and the attachment=28s=29 to the sender and delete and d= estroy all copies=2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 09:49:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8507C41A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wangyc0307@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E518FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hq12so27261wib.13 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 02:49:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cthducsJ+65oel5LDomO6QzCXf5VRUrlMGLTb1UmNns=; b=jvTcY7/BW2dmKRPqjeyA/w+Cvhko/ETculUlkBkNhCITVmx0QhdhKW4bMc4VdhYqO7 1M7vSpoZPdiWcYLJBp9vf+dmcOgG4ZW+sQEtunJuQGryFgDU2SfQVBu46RasB03lF9qI PwPqK5QEdcwoIPoijiEC7Nixd604AYfDldXWxnM7inGQJJIFe2FmMh36Qkhfs7kcfWue ndTV5AT7rgmWJ3hQqo4wBfZ80PmDbRp69OCi3fJJwagOnzsDHgekTcjQ8CIbjMOQ1QSU Bx8b9C6Maev0G9S8k1OfYs+8TT47BxERXAidszFAKDCqeb864QrAnQMigqvu5da05G9x uixw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.100.136 with SMTP id ey8mr4791610wib.1.1350035382866; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 02:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.202.6 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 02:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:49:42 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: How does freebsd supports ipx? From: YC Wang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:49:45 -0000 Hi,all: I read from wikipedia that freebsd supports ipx. But when I tried to set ipx address on em0=EF=BC=8Cit showed the following message: freebsd-yc# ifconfig em0 ipx (netnum.nodenum) ifconfig: socket(family 23,SOCK_DGRAM: Protocol not supported And as I furher trussed the ifconfig process, I found this was probably caused by the failure of the socket syscall: freebsd-yc# truss ifconfig em0 ipx netnum.nodenum ...... socket(PF_IPX,SOCK_DGRAM,0) ERR#43 'Protocol not supported' ...... In contrast however, when calling "socket(PF_IPX,SOCK_DGRAM,0)" on Linux, it will automatically load the ipx kernel module and the socket syscall returns successfully. But I don't find any ipx module in /boot/kernel/ on freebsd. So I wonder how does freebsd supports ipx? Is there any other work I should do for this purpose? And if this isn't the most appropriate list for this question, please let me know. Thanks YC Wang From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 10:12:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01369D96 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04F18FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id v11so3583002vbm.13 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:11:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=gLs/+rPMTk/4bSSYi9369yhwfHoYkdES9vu3K9rOMLs=; b=EhuEz07Gbg3RIKr779MS1Pv+iajPy4J+KiWhfYX+E2WvZNsrho2VDZJIeaM3v30Om4 TITZ8v+GLHOmh0Y9bCh5pw9kVywa4z/YAcQ1I3fXex5EeurqubJWDo7qXHHgYA+ghwTW uj/Fx8g0ILsUsSZGV4NhhQMv+tFhr+p2bU3dHuIwMgQK/syeFCYfOy+VjPV0wQjWWzlE C69sJNQZH04h2eDwtugk01bWalTS3fXe3oWc2x9UuqRmUfgqBLX+0G1U4sI26fcc3vU6 URECPJZCb37FFSk2kYiTRaJ1qaqfvmSSyIIK1Na+5Q611Q6VSeW2nov1BWo6brHynsG/ bhUA== Received: by 10.220.149.206 with SMTP id u14mr2247743vcv.63.1350036718220; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:11:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.249.138 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:11:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [95.158.3.122] In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:11:37 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How does freebsd supports ipx? To: YC Wang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkC/e2Q/X57e1HgFtqWHjkjUMqrF5cx82NEI8E5piiH1HOAp9EaKpEDnbSckJ/w1pKoevpi Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:12:01 -0000 2012/10/12 YC Wang : > Hi,all: > > I read from wikipedia that freebsd supports ipx. But when I tried > to set ipx address on em0=EF=BC=8Cit showed the following message: > > freebsd-yc# ifconfig em0 ipx (netnum.nodenum) > ifconfig: socket(family 23,SOCK_DGRAM: Protocol not supported > > And as I furher trussed the ifconfig process, I found this was > probably caused by the failure of the socket syscall: > > freebsd-yc# truss ifconfig em0 ipx netnum.nodenum > ...... > socket(PF_IPX,SOCK_DGRAM,0) ERR#43 'Protocol not sup= ported' > ...... > > > In contrast however, when calling "socket(PF_IPX,SOCK_DGRAM,0)" on > Linux, it will automatically load the ipx kernel module and the socket > syscall returns successfully. But I don't find any ipx module in > /boot/kernel/ on freebsd. > > So I wonder how does freebsd supports ipx? Is there any other work > I should do for this purpose? > > And if this isn't the most appropriate list for this question, > please let me know. > > Thanks > YC Wang > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I suppose you should add "options IPX" line to your kernel configuration file and rebuild/reinstall the kernel. --=20 ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets NOC Lead @TV-Net ISP NOC Lead @Service Outsourcing company +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 10:18:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1364137 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103188FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9CAInfj076840 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:18:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9CAInZ8076839 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:18:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:18:49 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How does freebsd supports ipx? Message-ID: <20121012101849.GD18344@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:18:52 -0000 > I suppose you should add "options IPX" line to your kernel > configuration file and rebuild/reinstall the kernel. have a look at /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and/or /usr/src/sys/{amd64,i386}/conf/NOTES for more information about kernel options From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 10:31:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F46C45B for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7148FC1C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9CAVZpP076920 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:31:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9CAVZZc076919 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:31:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:31:35 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <20121012103135.GE18344@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> <20121012085343.GB18344@kontrol.kode5.net> <5077DCB7.60807@ose.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5077DCB7.60807@ose.nl> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:31:38 -0000 [ Bas Smeelen wrote on Fri 12.Oct'12 at 11:02:47 +0200 ] > On 10/12/2012 10:53 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > [ Greg Larkin wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 20:49:19 -0400 ] > > > >> Hi Stuart, > >> > >> If you click the link in this mailing list article > >> (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218554.html), > >> then follow the rest of the threaded messages, you should be able fix > >> the problem once you upgrade to 7.4. > >> > >> The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf.so.1 binary > >> on a running system, so after the upgrade to 7.4 (or higher), the > >> system is not completely updated. > >> > >> This message > >> (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html) > >> has a fix, but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the > >> binary manually. > > Would it be easier to do an update by building from source? I've never used freebsd-update myself so not had to troubleshoot these issues before. > > That's probably the best way. > > Bit I am wondering about this. > I upgraded several systems (physical and virtual machines) with > freebsd-update from 7.1 -> 7.3 -> 8.1 -> 8.3 and also one system from 7.1 -> > 7.4 (with custom kernels) and did not encounter this. Did I just get lucky then? I couldn't comment on the freebsd-update(8) procedure as I've never used it. But I'd personally upgrade the system by building from source. You can then easily integrate your custom kernel and I would *imagine* you'd avoid the issues you've encountered so far. Make sure you read /usr/src/UPDATING thoroughly, and also check your customer kernel options. Some changes have been made to more recent versions of FreeBSD, such as the ata(4) driver. I believe in the past certain elements could be (and still can be) added in a modular fasion, explicitly setting each element. Now, you only need to have: device scbus, device ata and options ATA_CAM. Already present in the GENERIC kernel config now. See man 4 ata for details. I hope i've got that right, hopefully others will correct my comments if necessary but in any case, reading the appropriate files will provide all the information needed. For example: /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/{i386,amd64}/NOTES have more information about kernel options that might be helpful and of interest to you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 11:16:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEF32E4 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC8B8FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4BB3CF44; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:16:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9CBGcw2002054; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:16:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:16:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Message-Id: <20121012131638.1683e516.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:16:46 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Hi, > what is the diff between > --index > and > --index-only According to "man portmaster" there are some options that control the behaviour regarding the use of INDEX: --no-index-fetch skip fetching the INDEX file --index use INDEX-[7-9] exclusively to check if a port is up to date --index-first use the INDEX for status, but double-check with the port --index-only do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no /usr/ports directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. See the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. This means --index-only is to be used when using portmaster for binary installs without an installed ports collection. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 11:34:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C06892D for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3F68FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMdVl-0002VX-JX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:34:37 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:34:37 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:34:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <20121012131638.1683e516.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:34 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > Hi, > > what is the diff between > > --index > > and > > --index-only > ... > --index > use INDEX-[7-9] exclusively to check if a port is up to date > ... > --index-only > do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no /usr/ports > directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. See > the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. > > This means --index-only is to be used when using portmaster for > binary installs without an installed ports collection. > Well, yes, BUT they seem to be redundant (that's why I asked). # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 ===>>> 618 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 ===>>> 618 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 11:57:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE943F74 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45548FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMdrr-0007tc-JT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:57:27 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:57:27 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:57:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <20121012131638.1683e516.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:57:23 -0000 jb gmail.com> writes: > ... > > --index-only > > do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no > > /usr/ports > > directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. > > See the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. > > > ... And -PP|--packages-only option implies "index only" entry behavior, so there is redundancy here as well. Does anybody know where this --index-only option really matter ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 12:14:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B11E2A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F288FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:14:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: <507809B4.5060308@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:14:44 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster options References: <20121012131638.1683e516.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:14:48 -0000 On 10/12/2012 01=3A57 PM=2C jb wrote=3A =3E jb =3Cjb=2E1234abcd =3Cat=3E gmail=2Ecom=3E writes=3A =3E =3E=3E =2E=2E=2E =3E=3E=3E --index-only =3E=3E=3E do not try to use /usr/ports=2E For updating ports whe= n no =3E=3E=3E /usr/ports =3E=3E=3E directory is present the -PP=7C--packages-only option i= s required=2E =3E=3E=3E See the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requir= ements=2E =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E =2E=2E=2E =3E And -PP=7C--packages-only option implies =22index only=22 entry behavio= r=2C so there =3E is redundancy here as well=2E =3E =3E Does anybody know where this --index-only option really matter =3F =3E jb =3E Well /usr/local/sbin/portmaster is a =5Fbig=5F shell script You could read through it to find the answer to your question This e-mail message=2C including any attachment=28s=29=2C is intended solel= y for the addressee or addressees=2E Any views or opinions presented herein= are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of O= SE=2E If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return t= his e-mail message and the attachment=28s=29 to the sender and delete and d= estroy all copies=2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 12:16:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675292A3 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258FF8FC1C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCAD33302; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:15:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9CCFqhE002208; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:15:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:15:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Message-Id: <20121012141552.58f2b1dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121012131638.1683e516.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:16:00 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > > Hi, > > > what is the diff between > > > --index > > > and > > > --index-only > > ... > > --index > > use INDEX-[7-9] exclusively to check if a port is up to date > > ... > > --index-only > > do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no /usr/ports > > directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. See > > the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. > > > > This means --index-only is to be used when using portmaster for > > binary installs without an installed ports collection. > > > > Well, yes, BUT they seem to be redundant (that's why I asked). > > # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' > ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 > ===>>> 618 total installed ports > ===>>> 1 has a new version available > > # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' > ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 > ===>>> 618 total installed ports > ===>>> 1 has a new version available > # Did you test this with or _without_ an actually installed ports collection? If you don't have one installed, --index probably won't work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 12:28:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32C2AAE for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83958FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMeLi-0000rP-DP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:28:18 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:28:18 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:28:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <20121012131638.1683e516.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121012141552.58f2b1dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:28:14 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > ... > > Well, yes, BUT they seem to be redundant (that's why I asked). > > > > # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' > > ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 > > ===>>> 618 total installed ports > > ===>>> 1 has a new version available > > > > # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' > > ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 > > ===>>> 618 total installed ports > > ===>>> 1 has a new version available > > # > > Did you test this with or _without_ an actually installed ports > collection? If you don't have one installed, --index probably > won't work. > # mv /usr/ports /usr/ports-saved # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-85964-index/INDEX-9.bz2 100% of 1619 kB 185 kBps ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 ===>>> 618 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-87852-index/INDEX-9.bz2 100% of 1619 kB 125 kBps 00m00s Terminated # Well, the second entry outcome (with --index option) looks like a bug to me. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 13:08:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D302725 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from netuno.ime.usp.br (netuno.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E734E8FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arachne.ime.usp.br (arachne.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.22]) by netuno.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89191278CD5 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:59:15 -0300 (BRT) Received: by arachne.ime.usp.br (Postfix, from userid 112) id D320036D6001; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:59:15 -0300 (BRT) Received: from b1201654.virtua.com.br (b1201654.virtua.com.br [177.32.22.84]) by webmail.ime.usp.br (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:59:15 -0300 Message-ID: <20121012095915.470864k9735iy883@webmail.ime.usp.br> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:59:15 -0300 From: schultz@ime.usp.br To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sysctls and privacy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.10) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_MID, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on netuno.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:08:30 -0000 In my system I use separate user accounts for running untrusted programs at the moment. While many will probably argue that jails are a superior solution, in my specific case its the inverse. I know FreeBSD is not ready by default to have multiple untrusted users in the system, at least from a security viewpoint. I have done quite a bit of changes to make the situation better. However, there is something bugging me. Some sysctls apparently expose too much information about the system. Some examples: the number of context switches, the number of forks, the total used memory (at the byte level), the total used space for each file system (at the byte level) and even a graph of how my GEOM devices are organized! I know some programs like gkrellm need this information to function, but on the other hand, I feel pretty uncomfortable with the information presented by gkrellm being logged. It's at the very least a loss of privacy. So, I would like to ask for a way to disable user access to all sysctls that are not needed by basic user programs (shell, terminal, etc). Also, if possible, I would like to have a group of users to whom these sysctls are accessible as an exception (to run gkrellm). Thanks for your time. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j24sm5742348bkv.0.2012.10.12.06.31.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:31:00 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster options Message-ID: <20121012143100.1e470f79@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:31:07 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC) jb wrote: > Hi, > what is the diff between > --index > and > --index-only =46rom a *very* quick look, it appears that --index-only means don't use the the port-directory at all, so that the index file is downloaded into /tmp, and some checks and optimizations are skipped or done less efficiently. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 13:42:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C6862D for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E39A8FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMfVY-0004pk-Ra for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:42:33 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:42:32 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:42:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <20121012143100.1e470f79@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:42:31 -0000 RW googlemail.com> writes: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC) > jb wrote: > > > Hi, > > what is the diff between > > --index > > and > > --index-only > > From a *very* quick look, it appears that --index-only means don't use > the the port-directory at all, so that the index file is downloaded > into /tmp, and some checks and optimizations are skipped or done > less efficiently. > ... # ls -al /usr/ports/ ... -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26881412 Oct 12 07:47 INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26765446 Oct 12 07:47 INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 13:28 INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 INDEX-9.bz2 ... # # find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 ===>>> 618 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available # find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" Nope :-) jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 13:44:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFF77A6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574808FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMfXC-00062f-5I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:44:14 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:44:14 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:44:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: How does freebsd supports ipx? Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:44 -0400 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:44:09 -0000 YC Wang wrote: [snip] > syscall returns successfully. But I don't find any ipx module in > /boot/kernel/ on freebsd. > > So I wonder how does freebsd supports ipx? Is there any other work > I should do for this purpose? I believe what you read in Wikipedia may be out of date. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that IPX was dropped from FreeBSD and is no longer supported. The code went unmaintained for too long and succumbed to bit rot, so eventually it was pulled. What I am unclear about is exactly when this happened. It wasn't all that long ago. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 13:51:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3646C5E for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C948FC14 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026DE1A; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:51:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9CDpV1X002475; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:51:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:51:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Message-Id: <20121012155131.2c9e4dba.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121012143100.1e470f79@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:51:33 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:42:10 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > RW googlemail.com> writes: > > > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 +0000 (UTC) > > jb wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > what is the diff between > > > --index > > > and > > > --index-only > > > > From a *very* quick look, it appears that --index-only means don't use > > the the port-directory at all, so that the index file is downloaded > > into /tmp, and some checks and optimizations are skipped or done > > less efficiently. > > ... > > # ls -al /usr/ports/ > ... > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26881412 Oct 12 07:47 INDEX-7 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26765446 Oct 12 07:47 INDEX-8 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 13:28 INDEX-9 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 INDEX-9.bz2 > ... > # > > # find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" > > # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' > ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 > ===>>> 618 total installed ports > ===>>> 1 has a new version available > > # find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" > > Nope :-) But this? # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-87852-index/INDEX-9.bz2 100% of 1619 kB 125 kBps 00m00s Terminated This is with --index and _no_ ports collection in the default location (example quoted from your message)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 14:25:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFD8C3D for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93318FC0C for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMgB8-0007y6-Ah for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:25:30 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:25:30 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:25:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: portmaster options Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 91 Message-ID: References: <20121012143100.1e470f79@gumby.homeunix.com> <20121012155131.2c9e4dba.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:25:26 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > ... > But this? > > # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' > /tmp/d-87852-index/INDEX-9.bz2 100% of 1619 kB 125 kBps > 00m00s > Terminated > > This is with --index and _no_ ports collection in the default > location (example quoted from your message)... > The above (aborted ?) entry did not create any /tmp die files - this will be obvious below. I repeated the procedure once again, with extra tests. [root@localhost ~]# mv /usr/ports /usr/ports-saved [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d d-49774-index/ dbus-VVS2cduIFg dbus-cgVqiePRiB dbus-pt6vB9UUJ6 dbus-4inUXwgfJ4 dbus-Y2iXdHF5tz dbus-fsMikdzeLa dbus-u5N9XsFQwT dbus-DoADJZr2PE dbus-ZGcPBBe763 dbus-o2yUi7puUT dbus-vT3uAQQB6U dbus-FEJgZRlX7B dbus-ZmBHPDrpWD dbus-oVPu6XWzrw dbus-zrcvtjVO62 dbus-KPYiGOw8UL dbus-c36HAD5e3q dbus-paXxX0f1fy [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d-49774-index/ total 8 drwx------ 2 jb wheel 512 Oct 7 00:19 . drwxrwxrwt 23 root wheel 2048 Oct 12 15:35 .. [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" [root@localhost ~]# portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-93752-index/INDEX-9.bz2 100% of 1619 kB 185 kBps ===>>> New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 ===>>> 618 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available # ls -al /tmp/d d-49774-index/ dbus-FEJgZRlX7B dbus-Y2iXdHF5tz dbus-c36HAD5e3q dbus-o2yUi7puUT dbus-pt6vB9UUJ6 dbus-zrcvtjVO62 dbus-4inUXwgfJ4 dbus-KPYiGOw8UL dbus-ZGcPBBe763 dbus-cgVqiePRiB dbus-oVPu6XWzrw dbus-u5N9XsFQwT dbus-DoADJZr2PE dbus-VVS2cduIFg dbus-ZmBHPDrpWD dbus-fsMikdzeLa dbus-paXxX0f1fy dbus-vT3uAQQB6U # ls -al /tmp/d-49774-index/ total 8 drwx------ 2 jb wheel 512 Oct 7 00:19 . drwxrwxrwt 23 root wheel 2048 Oct 12 16:00 .. [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" /tmp/INDEX-9 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/*INDEX* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 16:00 /tmp/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' Terminated [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d d-49774-index/ dbus-VVS2cduIFg dbus-cgVqiePRiB dbus-pt6vB9UUJ6 dbus-4inUXwgfJ4 dbus-Y2iXdHF5tz dbus-fsMikdzeLa dbus-u5N9XsFQwT dbus-DoADJZr2PE dbus-ZGcPBBe763 dbus-o2yUi7puUT dbus-vT3uAQQB6U dbus-FEJgZRlX7B dbus-ZmBHPDrpWD dbus-oVPu6XWzrw dbus-zrcvtjVO62 dbus-KPYiGOw8UL dbus-c36HAD5e3q dbus-paXxX0f1fy [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d-49774-index/ total 8 drwx------ 2 jb wheel 512 Oct 7 00:19 . drwxrwxrwt 23 root wheel 2048 Oct 12 16:00 .. [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" /tmp/INDEX-9 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/*INDEX* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 16:00 /tmp/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# rm /tmp/INDEX* [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" [root@localhost ~]# # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' Terminated [root@localhost ~]# [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name "*INDEX*" [root@localhost ~]# jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 15:07:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC83AEA9 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quereslomejor4@gmail.com) Received: from smtp-out-01c4.arnet.com.ar (smtp-out-01c4.arnet.com.ar [200.45.1.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1C08FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:07:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Arnet-Anti-Spam: Activado X-Arnet-AV: Activado Received: from unknown (HELO SMTP-CLIENT-01.ARNET.COM.AR) ([192.168.221.2]) by smtp-route-01.arnet.com.ar with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2012 12:07:17 -0300 Received: from host8.186-109-153.telecom.net.ar (HELO Carlos) ([186.109.153.8]) by smtp-client-01.arnet.com.ar with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2012 11:36:23 -0300 Organization: . Message-ID: From: "DISCOGRAFIAS" To: Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?M=C1S_DE_170_DISCOGRAFIAS_COMPLETAS..._ESPECTACULAR!!!?= Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:35:01 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: quereslomejor4@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:07:25 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 15:46:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B308CE22; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stuart@islogistics.com) Received: from pub2.fourmajor.com (fourmajor.com [69.55.234.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADDC8FC14; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.115] (ip68-228-85-63.oc.oc.cox.net [68.228.85.63]) (Authenticated sender: stu) by pub2.fourmajor.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 089B511598; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50783B35.50308@islogistics.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:45:57 -0700 From: Stuart Matthews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121005 Thunderbird/16.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE References: <50771338.8040102@islogistics.com> <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5077690F.7020703@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:46:02 -0000 Hi Greg, Thanks for the tips. I'll be able to retry the upgrade this weekend. - Stu On 10/11/2012 5:49 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/11/12 2:43 PM, Stuart Matthews wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am including as much information in here as I think will be >> useful. Since I can do snapshots on VMWare, I am happy to try any >> solution or diagnostics. Steps I took to upgrade FreeBSD: Using >> freebsd-update, I upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE-p8 Then, >> to upgrade to 9.0-RELEASE, I ran the following commands, using >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html >> as my guide: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update >> install reboot freebsd-update install portupgrade -f ruby rm >> /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb rm >> /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db portupgrade -af >> freebsd-update install reboot >> >> I noticed that lots of things weren't working, and specifically >> that I was getting lots of complaints about /libexec/ld-elf.so.1. I >> also noticed that when I ran freebsd-update IDS, it seemed to >> report that every single file had the wrong signature. >> >> So, this being a VMWare guest, I reluctantly reverted to a >> previous snapshot, putting me back at 7.2-RELEASE-p8. >> >> I decided to try this time to go from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4-RELEASE >> to 8.0-RELEASE to 8.3-RELEASE. I only got to 7.4-RELEASE before I >> had the same issues as above. As a specific example of errors I >> would get, I try to run sudo and I get: [stuart@richelieu ~]$ sudo >> bash /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: sudo: invalid PT_PHDR >> >> This seems to be the most relevant thread to the problem I'm >> having: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218443.html >> >> However, I'd be more comfortable using an official upgrade path, >> like freebsd-update, exclusively. That thread involves replacing a >> file from a FreeBSD liveCD. Also, with freebsd-update IDS reporting >> so many files with incorrect signatures, I feel like my problem is >> bigger than fixing one file. >> >> Right now I am back on 7.2-RELEASE-p8 eager to get my OS upgraded >> to something that is under current support by the security team. >> Optimally I'd like to be on 8.3 after looking at the EOL dates. >> >> Also, I did see one other post _somewhere_ mentioning a similar >> proble also on a VMWare guest. So I am suspicious that the problem >> might be related to VMWare. >> >> Thanks, everyone. >> >> - Stuart Matthews > > Hi Stuart, > > If you click the link in this mailing list article > (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218554.html), > then follow the rest of the threaded messages, you should be able fix > the problem once you upgrade to 7.4. > > The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf.so.1 binary > on a running system, so after the upgrade to 7.4 (or higher), the > system is not completely updated. > > This message > (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html) > has a fix, but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the > binary manually. > > Hope that helps, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve > http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. > http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlB3aQ8ACgkQ0sRouByUApAj2QCgjZZKHLHa04PM3qhtKfwuzJpq > D0MAn3uolwsr/ukwGSxLXK42410IfMt8 > =JiOa > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 16:38:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76C35DD for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F9A8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q99MZbuw004305 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:35:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:35:37 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120609 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: editing pdf files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:35:37 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:38:02 -0000 Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? I have some forms I'm trying to fill out that contain labels followed by a bunch of underline characters and all I need to do is delete some of the underlines and add text. I tried using pdfedit but the modified file doesn't display properly. I assumed it would take care of text placement, etc., but it did not produce readable results. For example, removing underline characters and replacing them with "340007174" only displays "3400014"; "75-300mm" displays as "-300mm". Am I missing something or does it just not work? Does anyone have any experience with the open office oracle pdf import extension? I don't see it in the ports collection, and I am not sure whether to even try using the linux version. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 16:47:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FB19E6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F63E8FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so6674968iea.13 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:47:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eqYkf4Ner5hMIMMYHQtjl0STOtAlkma44ZGjvxYNBLY=; b=SR+X/EJrhCLUC99cqVVP0jMhrQgf4uAdvZPoy7BgnI6+WOuUMYyUE6WZqCIBZiu2gR gyTb8dROBJTebaDHydgOvuGX0OWLenxHGvyPoZQ0ykLwk52pdiG9L47MwcKUD3rDDYWS F3V/O8r1g/ELzjeJmreU9xIU5ZUR0nZkT4Xq3O9yKgSZY1wzljaVD9iv7pY/zVkbXqhG OQbX20D0aP2MFo7v7THoy+wG+A5cWSwTXnSlx5ixyDV1RJfhipDobCp7tAjlLkvKLatz YUbg60MkxlbRF6XR/FuGN2Vk048IbttPKrRqmp67cxBeLnyP1EJfBJWcoD3lThb5eHPE xdJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.182.230 with SMTP id eh6mr2760082igc.39.1350060443632; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.30.11 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:47:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:47:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: editing pdf files From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:29 -0000 On 9 October 2012 18:35, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? > I have some forms I'm trying to fill out that contain labels followed by > a bunch of underline characters and all I need to do is delete some of the > underlines and add text. > > I tried using pdfedit but the modified file doesn't display properly. I assumed > it would take care of text placement, etc., but it did not produce readable > results. For example, removing underline characters and replacing them with > "340007174" only displays "3400014"; "75-300mm" displays as "-300mm". Am I > missing something or does it just not work? > > Does anyone have any experience with the open office oracle pdf import extension? > I don't see it in the ports collection, > and I am not sure whether to even try using the linux version. > That a file is a .pdf doesn't tell you much about it, actually. If the .pdf is just an image (eg a scanned document) you can perhaps import it into gimp, or export it as a .png. You might be able to OCR it, I don't know. If it's a proper text document saved as a .pdf, you can surely import it into open- or libre-office & edit it from there. You might also be able to export it as a .ps (using perhaps print/gv or graphics/xpdf, or perhaps one of the tools from graphics/poppler) & edit it with an even wider variety of tools. Yet another option would be to use google docs (or similar), which generally allows viewing & perhaps editing as an HTML document. I don't know if google docs allows re-export back to .pdf, though. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 16:47:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F939EB for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nate.keegan@prescott-az.gov) Received: from tungsten.cityofprescott.net (tungsten.cityofprescott.net [63.229.103.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7DC8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tungsten.cityofprescott.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tungsten.cityofprescott.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FCB8C8433 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:39:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from obsidian.ad.cityofprescott.org (unknown [172.30.0.160]) by tungsten.cityofprescott.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A14C8C8427 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:39:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from Obsidian.ad.cityofprescott.org ([fe80::7106:4d83:5091:556a]) by obsidian.ad.cityofprescott.org ([fe80::7106:4d83:5091:556a%10]) with mapi; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:41:55 -0700 From: "Keegan,Nate" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:41:56 -0700 Subject: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD Thread-Topic: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD Thread-Index: Ac2omH3EcOLB9LszTTuYbb2QW7sZHQ== Message-ID: <0488BA670C8E594D93BE0556FEB89063054C373D29@obsidian.ad.cityofprescott.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:30 -0000 My configuration is as follows: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Supermicro X8DTi-LN4F (Intel Tylersburg 5520 chipset) motherboard 24 GB system memory 32 x Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 disks connected to 4 x Intel SASUC8I (LSI 3081= E-R) in IT mode 2 x Crucial M4 64 Gb SATA SSD for FreeBSD OS (zroot) 2 x Intel 320 MLC 80 Gb SATA SSD for L2ARC and swap SSD are connected to on-board SATA port on motherboard This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a= ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. At that time I started getting kernel panics due to timeouts to the on-boar= d SATA devices. The only change to the system since it was built was to add= an SSD for swap (32 Gb swap device) and this issue did not happen until se= veral months after this was added. My initial thought was that I might have a bad SSD drive so I swapped out o= ne of the Crucial SSD drives and the problem happened again a few days late= r. I then moved to systematically replacing items such as SATA cables, memory,= motherboard, etc and the problem continued. For example, I swapped out the= 4 SATA cables with brand new SATA cables and waited to see if the problem = happened again. Once it did I moved on to replacing the motherboard with an= identical motherboard, waited, etc. I could not find an obvious hardware related explanation for this behavior = so about a week and a half ago I did a fresh install of FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE= to move from the ATA driver to the AHCI driver as I found some evidence th= at this was helpful. The problem continued with something like this: ahcich0: Timeout on slot 29 port 0 ahcich0: is 000000000 cs 00000000 ss e0000000 rs e0000000 tfd 40 serr 00000= 000 cmd 0004df17 ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd =3D 00000080) ahcich0: Timeout on slot 31 port 0 ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 80000000 ss 00000000 rs 80000000 tfd 80 serr 000000= 00 cmd 0004df17 (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): lost device ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 3100ms (tfd =3D 00000080) ahcich0: Timeout on slot 31 port 0 ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 80000003 ss 800000003 rs 80000003 tfd 80 serr 00000= 00 cmd 0004df17 (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): removing device entry ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd =3D 00000080) ahcich0: Poll timeout on slot 1 port 0 ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00000002 ss 000000000 rs 0000002 tfd 80 serr 000000= 00 cmd 004c117 When this happens the only way to recover the system is to hard boot via IP= MI (yanking the power vs hitting reset). I cannot say that every time this = happens a hard reset is necessary but more often than not a hard reset is n= ecessary as the on-board AHCI portion of the BIOS does not always see the d= isks after the event without a hard system power reset. I have done a bunch of Google work on this and have seen the issue appear i= n FreeNAS and FreeBSD but no clear cut resolution in terms of how to addres= s it or what causes it. Some people had a bad SSD, others had to disable NC= Q or power management on their SSD, particular brands of SSD (Samsung), etc= . Nothing conclusive so far. At the present time the issue happens every 1-2 hours unless I have the fol= lowing in my /boot/loader.conf after the ahci_load statement: ahci_load=3D"YES" # See ahci(4) hint.ahcich.0.sata_rev=3D1 hint.ahcich.1.sata_rev=3D1 hint.ahcich.2.sata_rev=3D1 hint.ahcich.3.sata_rev=3D1 hint.ahcich.0.pm_level=3D1 hint.ahcich.1.pm_level=3D1 hint.ahcich.2.pm_level=3D1 hint.ahcich.3.pm_level=3D1 I have a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d which disables NCQ on these drives: #!/bin/sh CAMCONTROL=3D/sbin/camcontrol $CAMCONTROL tags ada0 -N 1 > /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada1 -N 1 > /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada2 -N 1 > /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada3 -N 1 > /dev/null exit 0 I went ahead and pulled the Intel SSDs as they were showing ASR and hardwar= e resets which incremented. Removing both of these disks from the system di= d not change the situation. The combination of /boot/loader.conf and this script gets me 6 days or so o= f operation before the issue pops up again. If I remove these two items I g= et maybe 2 hours before the issue happens again. Right now I'm down to one OS disk and one swap disk and that is it for SSD = disks on the system. At the last reboot (yesterday) I disabled APM on the disks (ada0 and ada1 a= t this point) to see if that makes a difference as I found a reference to t= his being a potential problem. I'm looking for insight/help on this as I'm about out of options. If there = is a way to gather more information when this happens, post up information,= etc I'm open to trying it. What is driving me crazy is that I can't seem to come up with a concrete ex= planation as to why now and not back when the system was built. The issue o= nly seems to happen when the system is idle and the SSD drives do not see m= uch action other than to host OS, scripts, etc while the Intel/LSI based dr= ives is where the actual I/O is at. The system logs do not show anything prior to event happening and the OS wi= ll respond to ping requests after the issue and if you have an active SSH s= ession you will remain connected to the system until you attempt to do some= thing like 'ls', 'ps', etc. New SSH requests to the system get 'connection refused'. As far as I can see I have three real options left: * Hope that someone here knows something I don't * Ditch SSD for straight SATA disks (plan on doing this next week before ne= xt likely happening sometime Wed am) as perhaps there is some odd SATA/SSD = interaction with FreeBSD or with controller I'm not aware of (haven't had t= his happen with plain SATA and FreeBSD before) * Ditch FreeBSD for Solaris so I can keep ZFS lovin for the intended purpos= e of this system I'm open to suggestions, direction, etc to see if I can nail down what is g= oing on and put this issue to bed for not only myself but for anyone else w= ho might run into it before I lose what little hair and sanity I have left.= ..heh - Nate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 16:49:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20834C7F for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1678FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so6680031iea.13 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qkLKkDRks2fTAQF9xnUeR3TH9QAk1Vd7XbtluKeZlus=; b=tZRVKpF7NZpDkr5ga4tJKHTE4zn4U4cQM+O0KeHOhuwkrA2aNf9qE0Lh/yTdSofuEh QDw9YDzGD7i4Bu4n/urRjDIHqAPoF860lobX1iij6jsPWSrQ0aLjFQ1z5MowmNKDzhKG JJxDbnVNqV/htnpyQ+s0RsdmObnfDuBubfNOJM+UgBOmaO50usiIoGoQYJAiRKfweLLY pLhU3f8uLQkfvcsyTR3fTNKRd7Qs+Soqb54p6O9nl6S9K1nBndMI27dfYJjwKoJ1qlZ3 YupqgqpbnmVMYAfO/niwIuxa5Om9iKtNZq8SBM1wXuecwjHIESWYd9uZGOy4NnE7nVaf PiqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.95.10 with SMTP id d10mr3897496icn.30.1350060592559; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.30.11 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:49:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How does freebsd supports ipx? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:49:53 -0000 On 12 October 2012 09:44, Michael Powell wrote: > YC Wang wrote: > > [snip] >> syscall returns successfully. But I don't find any ipx module in >> /boot/kernel/ on freebsd. >> >> So I wonder how does freebsd supports ipx? Is there any other work >> I should do for this purpose? > > I believe what you read in Wikipedia may be out of date. Someone correct me > if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that IPX was dropped from FreeBSD and is > no longer supported. The code went unmaintained for too long and succumbed > to bit rot, so eventually it was pulled. > > What I am unclear about is exactly when this happened. It wasn't all that > long ago. > "options IPX" is still valid in 9.1-RC2. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 18:40:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A86AB7 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward1h.mail.yandex.net (forward1h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C138FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (smtp2h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.145]) by forward1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DD9F69E08D4; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:40:30 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AA2C61700115; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:40:30 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 93.91.3.166.tel.ru (93.91.3.166.tel.ru [93.91.3.166]) by smtp2h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id eTeG6s2a-eUeSwCHZ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:40:30 +0400 Message-ID: <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:40:29 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov Organization: =?UTF-8?B?0JfQkNCeICLQktCQ0KDQoiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121012 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: editing pdf files References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:40:33 -0000 10.10.2012 02:35, Gary Aitken пишет: > Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? Take a look at graphics/inkscape. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 19:15:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF42A0B for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alextoti13@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8268FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id bi1so3367721pad.13 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QtRD1vc1UwN6X1PA1sDyHT/ehuGzAGDdkrjMGI5sONA=; b=PAJe/OHgBDEUZI0zd4C8F0CXJpsdsfwWizD9D5lF844gogjOrKcZ4qRJ+DQbVix5O0 MEgKVypef07fJT9vpX70352mpbW/zSdLWKdSC/112KfwEXQLoy/QpsbQQ8RVc7GbqHoZ qMkEsGWBfTVF1L3zslrKr7KvtMZP6Dbeh7ktwj2oNKA+4/H4Ze4deOQwU75jtlOc1tRw JMX1rRDBkkT0BF/viaNJ/cAq/7egc4ieVJ9w4diKemtBltXvPD3j3AKxfwRWvS/3H4J0 jdcdioc0cure1RIvH6l0bin8JTtONsf0zGaCh8mVKDCAOKaObGjoJ2h9ZqPQyVzMKU9a 6dlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.129.98 with SMTP id nv2mr16346947pbb.85.1350069353072; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmJIlSagvcfPJUtG9o1WG5dTbY4jd2wscRN51gUwLCHSeSLm1TAtE0NBIWYVnBQ8WZE8vKq Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:09:58 -0000 2012/10/12 alexandors titonis : > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Cool for you :) BTW, try not use phpmyadmin, it's kinda security hole :) -- ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets NOC Lead @TV-Net ISP NOC Lead @Service Outsourcing company +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 20:22:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC314DE for ; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:24:53 -0000 jb gmail.com> writes: > ... I have doubts about these options use, so I filed a PR#: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=172651 jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 23:53:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADFFAC6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62E388FC08 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15907 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2012 23:46:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.180.213.209) by p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.232) with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2012 23:46:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:46:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-ID: <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:53:12 -0000 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:40:29PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > 10.10.2012 02:35, Gary Aitken пишет: > > > Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? > > Take a look at graphics/inkscape. > > -- > WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) > FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and listed as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my great grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mbytes) and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility. same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used other tools to create a pdf file. I am not =that= serious about genealogy, but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind of pdf file. tia guys, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 02:40:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B119F514 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 02:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC88FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 02:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so7474785iea.13 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:40:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=xIOP5PXCEj8on+w7ssF6w3TsDvKNMl4W+yXmsoFUIjk=; b=gfs1nYDwWsgIb9ZsT+JCVC2j129Hh+HOEIjZtnghC5eTizyDoamxqVvOcLV8IPQvfx 2a1C64dJVMtEDua3RdolNP+BwbjPQttMU6UbhFYMzqZ2e9zfW7i3xOYC12BP0VrTl68g 6ytq35260UDVaK+LWd0ha/tWCghaIGePDt+RpZxImX0gl0pXJICPMIpYsJB1KnrgCpie SgQcvMxp9aEYD/zgU46LJnjDflH0+Zey08jclyqUFu62syXeBKPuTv2i6yAkaMqLDGLO N0No26jgFXOpUUB76kYV85eNgEAgC4ckNgqVbDwdx2fYxsYZyrElBx/3btJ47E8g5xEk cpzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.130 with SMTP id i2mr3832639igq.56.1350096023556; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.49.67 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:40:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.183.70] In-Reply-To: <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: editing pdf files From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkGHChS3Y1NJ8G6RbA7Ih98X8rZ20D76bLedPafSOV3Q3W6dlIGFe6S8svS2ZO07FxKjHIf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 02:40:24 -0000 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:40:29PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> 10.10.2012 02:35, Gary Aitken =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> >> > Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? >> >> Take a look at graphics/inkscape. >> >> -- >> WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) >> FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > > > ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. > > last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and l= isted > as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the > 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my gr= eat > grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mb= ytes) > and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility= . > same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. > > my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used oth= er > tools to create a pdf file. I am not =3Dthat=3D serious about g= enealogy, > but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind= of > pdf file. I suspect the following: they scanned the book and put all the images into the PDF. The PDF itself is merely a container for scanned pages; it thus contains no text (save for the page numbers). That Google was able to search in this file is probably due to them running some OCR program on the image files, and then indexing the (approximate) text that the OCR program generated. Probably they used something like tesseract-ocr from ports graphics/tesseract: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ > tia guys, > > gary > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Un= ix > Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 10:22:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90638950 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AF38FC19 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor19.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.2]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C02925AB2 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:16:45 +0400 (MSK) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:15:48 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysctls and privacy Message-ID: <20121013101545.GA21274@external.screwed.box> References: <20121012095915.470864k9735iy883@webmail.ime.usp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121012095915.470864k9735iy883@webmail.ime.usp.br> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:22:26 -0000 y Hello. it's a -questions@ here, right? (= 2012/10/12 09:59:15 -0300 schultz@ime.usp.br => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > In my system I use separate user accounts for running untrusted > programs at the moment. While many will probably argue that jails > are a superior solution, in my specific case its the inverse. What's a specific of the case? > I know FreeBSD is not ready by default to have multiple untrusted > users in the system, at least from a security viewpoint. I have > done quite a bit of changes to make the situation better. What changes? > However, there is something bugging me. Some sysctls apparently > expose too much information about the system. Some examples: the > number of context switches, the number of forks, the total used > memory (at the byte level), the total used space for each file > system (at the byte level) and even a graph of how my GEOM devices > are organized! What kind of danger is this? This system info expose seems nothing to do with making the system work unexpectedly. > I know some programs like gkrellm need this information to function, > but on the other hand, I feel pretty uncomfortable with the > information presented by gkrellm being logged. It's at the very least > a loss of privacy. You didn't mention you must have an outside network connection. Should your untrusted software have it? Just unplug it otherwise. > So, I would like to ask for a way to disable user access to all > sysctls that are not needed by basic user programs (shell, terminal, etc). You can make the special chroot/jail environment for the users keeping them away from the access to the binaries exposing sysctls. And permit them the write access only to the volumes mounted as '-o noexec'. There should be the way(s) to bypass this, at the least one of the DSLs e. g. ruby, python, perl, php used in that environment may provide API for sysctls or the modules can be built to use sysctl api from C. Thus you should keep your C compiler and any of the soucres e. g. /usr/src to present on that environment. Even with that who knows if your software doesn't use sysctl(3) functions. But the 'basic user programs' shouldn't. > Also, if possible, I would like to have a group of users to whom > these sysctls are accessible as an exception (to run gkrellm). I don't think it's possible at the moment. Do you think this can be implemented without performance loss? Sysctl is a kind of the kernel stuff... How about emaulators/qemu, virtualbox, etc? > Thanks for your time. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 11:19:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE56564 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10CA8FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66B03CF67; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:19:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9DBJ7we001927; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:19:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:19:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-Id: <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:19:16 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:46:28 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. > > last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and listed > as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the > 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my great > grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mbytes) > and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility. > same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. > > my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used other > tools to create a pdf file. I am not =that= serious about genealogy, > but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind of > pdf file. In case the PDF is nothing more than a compilation of images, there's a way to deal with it for editing: step 1: disassemble step 2: edit images step 3: reassemble The disassembling can be done with % pdfimages source.pdf . Then the files can be edited whatever tool you like, e. g. Gimp. They often come out in PBM format. Finally the images can be re-converted to PDF and combined to one PDF file: for IMG in .*.pbm; do convert ${IMG} ${IMG}.pdf done pdftk .*.pdf output target.pdf Note the ".*" prefix for the file specification: The images extracted by pdfimages match that pattern (at least in the case I tested it for). If they get other names than .0000001.pbm, change the approach accordingly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hg2sm1226271igc.3.2012.10.13.06.05.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 13 Oct 2012 06:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: hal question Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:05:29 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RC2; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201210130805.29894.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:05:45 -0000 Hi! The proble with hal-xorg-mouse is well known very long period and looks like that is nothing better. Also well know is that HAL is in maintenance mode - no new features are added (from freedestop). As I remmeber before I never (we) had a problem with hal-xorg-mouse but I forgot ewhen this problem started. Is it possible to downgrade hal and the problem is saved? Thanks. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 13:21:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB9CD8D for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE7F8FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:21:06 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAIBqeVB8qhZ1/2dsb2JhbABFhSm6QoEIgiABAQQBOj8FCwsNATgUGDETh34Fu22RNmADlWuFUDWKLIMB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,580,1344182400"; d="scan'208";a="47511830" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.22.117]) by icp-osb-irony-out5.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2012 21:21:03 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BE51EFA5; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:21:02 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:21:02 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: SATA Controllers Message-ID: <20121013132102.GA51688@ozzmosis.com> References: <50DE4FB5-4123-4B83-9805-E817331490EE@lafn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50DE4FB5-4123-4B83-9805-E817331490EE@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:21:08 -0000 On Tue 2012-10-09 09:25:34 UTC-0700, Doug Hardie (bc979@lafn.org) wrote: > Looking through the list of SATA Controllers available at Best Buy, I > don't find any of them listed on the 9.0 hardware page. I need a > couple cheap ones (for non-production systems). Does anyone have > recommendations? I've used a Promise 378 FastTrak SATA PCI controller card in the past. They don't seem easy to find any more, though. Certainly not new. There's a Promise S150 TX4 for US$15 on eBay which apparently is supported by FreeBSD. The controller chip is a PDC20319 which is listed in /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/chipsets/ata-promise.c. Also a SATA300 TX2plus for the same price which is probably supported too. The seller's photo shows a PDC207xx controller chip - probably the PDC20771 which is also listed in ata-promise.c. Of course there's not much consumer demand for these types of cards any more, now that motherboards with four or more SATA sockets are common! Good luck :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 13:27:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03D8F6A for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F178FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TN1km-0008GC-Ge for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:27:44 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:27:44 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:27:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: hal question Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <201210130805.29894.lumiwa@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:27:49 -0000 ajtiM gmail.com> writes: > > Hi! > > The proble with hal-xorg-mouse is well known very long period and looks like > that is nothing better. Also well know is that HAL is in maintenance mode - no > new features are added (from freedestop). As I remmeber before I never (we) > had a problem with hal-xorg-mouse but I forgot ewhen this problem started. > Is it possible to downgrade hal and the problem is saved? > ... The start of the problem seems to be located in time and is rather well documented: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171433&cat= It is now up to devs to determine which package (X server, hal) is to be looked at. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 13:36:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCE1180 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from autoflagman70@mail.ru) Received: from fallback2.mail.ru (fallback2.mail.ru [94.100.176.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A190F8FC16 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp15.mail.ru (smtp15.mail.ru [94.100.176.133]) by fallback2.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 37488B96D964 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:36:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:To:Subject:From; 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Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230258FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1999D508AC for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:54:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.41] (zeus.webrz.net [10.10.10.41]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E25155089F for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:54:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5079AB5A.5050201@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:56:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD9 - Fresh install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:56:49 -0000 I am trying to setup a new BSD server with v9.0 stable on it. While setting it up, I come across an issue: there are some YouTube movies available in which only the following disk setup is chosen: - freebsd-boot - freebsd ufs / - freebsd-swap Now when I setup and choose for Auto defaults, I see the wellknown /var, /tmp and /usr again. Are these differences between what I see on YouTube examples due to v9.0 or what is causing that? BR, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 17:59:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91079465 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473E48FC0C for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AB55085E for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:54:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.41] (zeus.webrz.net [10.10.10.41]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 004B65083C for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:54:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5079AB41.7040702@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:56:17 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD9 - Fresh install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:59:03 -0000 I am trying to setup a new BSD server with v9.0 stable on it. While setting it up, I come across an issue: there are some YouTube movies available in which only the following disk setup is chosen: - freebsd-boot - freebsd ufs / - freebsd-swap Now when I setup and choose for Auto defaults, I see the wellknown /var, /tmp and /usr again. Are these differences between what I see on YouTube examples due to v9.0 or what is causing that? BR, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 17:59:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1FD53F for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BC18FC17 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B43508D0 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:57:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.41] (zeus.webrz.net [10.10.10.41]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 02C98508AC for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:57:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5079ABFA.8050607@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:59:22 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD9 - Fresh install (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:59:28 -0000 When setting up my 1TB harddisk for FreeBSD 9.0, I have some questions about partioning: I think of creating two partitions of 5Gb; one for the standard FreeBSD file layour and a second one with a /backup slice on it. Does this make sense? BR, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 18:59:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F55180 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207828FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC522458E; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9DIxdp7001910; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:59:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:59:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jos Chrispijn Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - Fresh install Message-Id: <20121013205939.5ca149d0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5079AB5A.5050201@webrz.net> References: <5079AB5A.5050201@webrz.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:59:49 -0000 On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:56:42 +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I am trying to setup a new BSD server with v9.0 stable on it. > While setting it up, I come across an issue: there are some YouTube > movies available in which only the following disk setup is chosen: > - freebsd-boot > - freebsd ufs / > - freebsd-swap > Now when I setup and choose for Auto defaults, I see the wellknown /var, > /tmp and /usr again. > Are these differences between what I see on YouTube examples due to v9.0 > or what is causing that? Please read about classic MBR vs. new GPT installs: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html Of course you can choose _any_ layout with _any_ of the partitioning mechanisms. But "auto" usually does it differently, so use the manual approach and define the partitions according to your needs. With the approach you mentioned above you will get one (!) UFS partition, rooted in /, containing all the subtrees, so /usr, /var and /home will be _all_ in one partition. (Note that there basically is nothing wrong with this idea, even though some admins prefer to use partitions for separating OS components for a good reason.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 19:05:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F7A49E for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E1D8FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE01924750; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9DJ5DrT001933; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:05:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:05:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jos Chrispijn Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 - Fresh install (2) Message-Id: <20121013210513.80676821.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5079ABFA.8050607@webrz.net> References: <5079ABFA.8050607@webrz.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:05:15 -0000 On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:59:22 +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > When setting up my 1TB harddisk for FreeBSD 9.0, I have some questions > about partioning: > I think of creating two partitions of 5Gb; one for the standard FreeBSD > file layour and a second one with a /backup slice on it. > Does this make sense? What exactly do you intend to backup (and why) onto a second partition on the same disk? Sure, it is possible to do so, but you should make yourself clear _what_ you want to do and why, then it will imply _how_ will do it the best way -- even though there might be more than one best way... :-) Also depending on your needs, 5GB may be too few to hold a full installation of OS and programs (even though I've managed to get a full 5.2 installation plus tons of programs on a 6 GB disk, with 50% of free space afterwards). What do you do with the remaining 900 GB of the disk? :-) Also, please make yourself familiar with the terminology of what a partitions and what a slice is, and see it in the proper context of MBR vs. GPT partitioning. If I take your use of the TT (termini technici) literally, you would have one partition containing everything rooted to /, and a second partition that contains the same. You would either manually have a backup mechanism from the 1st to the 2nd partition, or you could configure them in some automated mirroring mechanism. But I don't see a real use case when doing so on the _same_ disk. Still it would be possible, and it could even be helpful in some bad case scenario. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 20:07:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0F3A3B for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B785D8FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Ak4T1k0034XeM0101k4TWQ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:04:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:04:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "C. P. Ghost" Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-ID: <20121013200427.GC14155@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:07:04 -0000 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 04:40:23AM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:40:29PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > >> 10.10.2012 02:35, Gary Aitken пишет: > >> > >> > Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? > >> > >> Take a look at graphics/inkscape. > >> > >> -- > >> WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) > >> FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > > > > > > ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. > > > > last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and listed > > as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the > > 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my great > > grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mbytes) > > and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility. > > same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. > > > > my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used other > > tools to create a pdf file. I am not =that= serious about genealogy, > > but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind of > > pdf file. > > I suspect the following: they scanned the book and put all the images > into the PDF. The PDF itself is merely a container for scanned pages; > it thus contains no text (save for the page numbers). > > That Google was able to search in this file is probably due to them running > some OCR program on the image files, and then indexing the (approximate) > text that the OCR program generated. Probably they used something like > tesseract-ocr from ports graphics/tesseract: > http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ > in more recent google stuff--text--sci-tech zines or whatever--it sseems like they have used some very high-end ocr programs and =then= turned the file into pdf. I have been able to get very good textfiles from a small sample of google's work. a few years ago I tried the ocr ports we have. very poor results. it may be time to see if the newer versions gives me better results. gary ps: tesseract was one I tried [circa '10] ... time to look at the actual Code! > > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 20:44:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67FE501 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CB468FC16 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7963 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2012 20:38:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.180.213.209) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2012 20:38:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:38:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-ID: <20121013203816.GD14155@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:44:58 -0000 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:46:28 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. > > > > last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and listed > > as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the > > 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my great > > grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mbytes) > > and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility. > > same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. > > > > my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used other > > tools to create a pdf file. I am not =that= serious about genealogy, > > but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind of > > pdf file. > > In case the PDF is nothing more than a compilation of images, > there's a way to deal with it for editing: the images in this book aren't what I am interested in. just text. > > step 1: disassemble > step 2: edit images > step 3: reassemble > > The disassembling can be done with > > % pdfimages source.pdf . > > Then the files can be edited whatever tool you like, e. g. Gimp. > They often come out in PBM format. > > Finally the images can be re-converted to PDF and combined to one > PDF file: > > for IMG in .*.pbm; do > convert ${IMG} ${IMG}.pdf > done > pdftk .*.pdf output target.pdf > > Note the ".*" prefix for the file specification: The images extracted > by pdfimages match that pattern (at least in the case I tested it for). > If they get other names than .0000001.pbm, change the approach > accordingly. > turns out that the first roughtly 580 pages are of no interest. I'll see if tesseract-ocr can get rid of most of the data. what fmt works best with the ocr suites? or are they about the same? for the section I got in that 1901 book on my g-grandfather, it was only about 1.5 pages. there was no photo, just his name and some bio. Still, things I had no knowledge of. I'm sure that my father didnt know either! gary > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 20:49:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82906681 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610168FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Akn11k0024XeM0101kn1cs; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:47:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:47:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-ID: <20121013204701.GE14155@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:49:38 -0000 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:46:28 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > The disassembling can be done with > > % pdfimages source.pdf . > > Then the files can be edited whatever tool you like, e. g. Gimp. > They often come out in PBM format. > A qstn I should have asked last time. this book is a history or bio of richland county, ohio:: in type, it's like 650 or more pages. SO: Is pdfimages going to spit of 6t50 files? as noted in last email, only a couple of these images are of any interest -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 21:15:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9E6CB3 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9228FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4101A247B0; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:15:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9DLFa1l002281; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:15:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:15:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-Id: <20121013231536.c703bc21.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121013204701.GE14155@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121013204701.GE14155@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:15:39 -0000 On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:47:01 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:46:28 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > The disassembling can be done with > > > > % pdfimages source.pdf . > > > > Then the files can be edited whatever tool you like, e. g. Gimp. > > They often come out in PBM format. > > > > > A qstn I should have asked last time. this book is a history or > bio of richland county, ohio:: in type, it's like 650 or more > pages. SO: Is pdfimages going to spit of 6t50 files? as noted > in last email, only a couple of these images are of any interest Depends on what actually _is_ in the PDF file. If every page is represented as a picture, 650 pictures will be created. If it contains text _and_ images, the images will be output, if will _only_ output the images, with no real realtion to where they have been placed in the text. As suggested by the name "pdfimages" it takes the images from the PDF file. :-) The easiest way to check for possible text is to install xpdf which brings the binary "pdftotext" (if I remember correctly that this tool is in _that_ package). You can then use it like this: % pdftotext source.pdf It will create "source.txt" with all actual text (but of course without _any_ formatting except line breaks and ^L page breaks), including page numbers. But hey, it's pure ASCII text suitable for further processing. :-) Run "pdftotext" without parameters for a short summary of its parameters; "man pdftotext" is also provided. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 13 21:21:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D563BFB2 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919F78FC0A for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A29324510; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:21:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9DLLOhb002315; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:21:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:21:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: editing pdf files Message-Id: <20121013232124.86e6355d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20121013203816.GD14155@ethic.thought.org> References: <5074A6B9.8040209@dreamchaser.org> <5078641D.4050905@passap.ru> <20121012234628.GA11112@ethic.thought.org> <20121013131907.c666bfc2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121013203816.GD14155@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:21:25 -0000 On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:38:16 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:46:28 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. > > > > > > last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and listed > > > as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the > > > 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my great > > > grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mbytes) > > > and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility. > > > same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. > > > > > > my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used other > > > tools to create a pdf file. I am not =that= serious about genealogy, > > > but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind of > > > pdf file. > > > > In case the PDF is nothing more than a compilation of images, > > there's a way to deal with it for editing: > > > the images in this book aren't what I am interested in. > just text. In case the text is "in" images (i. e. the images contain text), postprocessing those images will be the only way to obtain the text information (if there is no actual text in the PDF). > what fmt works best with the ocr suites? or are they about the > same? for the section I got in that 1901 book on my g-grandfather, > it was only about 1.5 pages. there was no photo, just his name > and some bio. Still, things I had no knowledge of. I'm sure > that my father didnt know either! It should work with any lossless (!) format, especially if it does only contain two colors (as any BW format of PBM, GIF and PNG can do, and JPEG can't). In case tesseract OCR does not operate on PBM files directly, convert them into something it can handle better, like TIFF or maybe PNG; you can use % convert .-530.pbm 530.png % convert .-531.pbm 531.png manually (as you will only process two files) and then run the OCR process on them. Note that pdfimages can also output color images (if they are color images in the source), e. g. I found .-000.ppm (PPM format) with a diagram in "Good Ideas, Through the Looking Glass" by N. Wirth. I'm not sure if there could also "directly" be PNG or EPS files in a PDF file... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...