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Date:      Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:41:21 -0700
From:      Nicholas Esborn <nick@netdot.net>
To:        Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Practical limit for pre-loaded md_image size?
Message-ID:  <20020923184121.GA65376@carbon.berkeley.netdot.net>
In-Reply-To: <441y7ksho4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
References:  <20020922081120.GA54982@carbon.berkeley.netdot.net> <20020922181917.GB46345@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020922201441.GB54982@carbon.berkeley.netdot.net> <441y7ksho4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>

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I'm copying this to -hackers as well.

I tried setting the MD_NSECT to 307200 to accomodate my RAM disk, but
according to md(4):

     At boot time the md driver will search for pre-loaded modules of type
     `md_image' and instantiate a md device for each of these modules.  The
     type `mfs_root' is also allowed for backward compatibility.  These
     devices are backed by the RAM reserved by the loader(8), and as such not
     limited by the malloc(9) size constraints.

I am preloading the images using the md_image variable in loader.conf, so
this documentation thinks I *should* be fine.

The kernel with MD_NSECT set to 307200 still failed to boot with my 128MB
md_image.

I'm attaching my kernel config.

-nick

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 02:08:11PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Nicholas Esborn <nick@netdot.net> writes:
> 
> > I've tried this on two machines:
> > 
> >  1 4.7-RC w/ 512 MB of RAM
> >  2 5.0-CURRENT w/ 256 MB of RAM
> > 
> > Both behave the same way with a ~128MB md_image.
> 
> Did you check the manual?  It says: "The default maximum size of a md
> disk backed by malloc(9) is 20,000 sectors of 512 bytes each.  This
> can be changed with the kernel option MD_NSECT." 
> 
> > -nick
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 11:19:18AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:11:20AM -0700, Nicholas Esborn wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I've been trying to boot a kernel and a preloaded md_image of about 128MB.
> > > > 
> > > > The kernel and image load, and then about a quarter of a second after the
> > > > kernel executes, before any text even prints, the machine reboots.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone had better luck with large md_image root filesystems?
> > > 
> > > You forgot to mention how much RAM you have, and what FreeBSD version.

-- 
Nicholas Esborn
Unix Systems Administrator
Berkeley, California

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#
# COPPER
# Tue Apr 23 05:41:01 GMT 2002
# nick
#
# Based on $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.40 2002/03/27 02:16:26 dd Exp $

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		COPPERX
maxusers	0

options		HZ=1000			#increase clock resolution for polling
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	UFS_DIRHASH		#Improve performance on big directories
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
options		MD_NSECT=307200		#Maxium MD size
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev
options		CPU_ENABLE_SSE
options		CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK
#options		BOOTP
#options		BOOTP_NFSROOT
#options		BOOTP_NFSV3
#options		BOOTP_COMPAT
options		IPSEC
options		IPSEC_ESP
options		IPSEC_DEBUG
options		IPFILTER
options		IPFILTER_LOG

options		DEVICE_POLLING

device		isa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices

# SCSI peripherals
device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
device		cd		# CD
device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
#device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device		miibus		# MII bus support
device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
device		ugen		# Generic
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
device		ukbd		# Keyboard
device		ulpt		# Printer
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device		ums		# Mouse
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

device		smbus
device		iicbus
device		iicbb
device		ic
device		iic
device		iicsmb
device		smb

device		viapm

#device		pcm

device		bktr

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