From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Dec 18 21:52:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D2937B405 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0514.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.194.4] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16GZeS-0002nX-00; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:52:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3C202B18.4F1AEA2C@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:52:24 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Mike DeGraw-Bertsch , "Person, Roderick" , Fergus Cameron , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hotmail _still_ runs FreeBSD! References: <3C1FFDE5.90B751FE@mindspring.com> <014001c18845$8a87ef90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: [ ... the ".NET" trademark issue ... ] > Their failure to list > them, along with their conspicuous failure to treat them as such in every > other context I've examined, implies that they do not consider them > trademarks and do not plan to defend them as such. Or maybe it means you can't see the little symbol to the right of the "t" in "Net" in this GIF: http://www.passportimages.com/1033/PassportLogo140x44.gif ??? > > The incomplete registration shows their clear > > intent, in any case. > > If they were established as common-law trademarks, they wouldn't need to > show intent. Common law trademarks do not magically appear by fiat. In additiona, registration conveys a number of protections which are not otherwise available, as well as a number of legal remedies. > And only one attempt to register a trademark is being made, > for .NET as a typed drawing. That application does not show prior or > current commercial use of the mark. Of course it doesn't. Where do you think baby trademarks come from in the first place?!? > I could find no application for Passport. Did you examine all 124 applications that appear to be outstanding with the same dilligence you appear to have used in the examination of the ".NET" GIF image trademark symbol to the right of the "t"? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message