From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 15 21:38:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0780537B417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 21:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 628CA786E6; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:08:06 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:08:06 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Why no Indians and Arabs? Message-ID: <20011216160806.R62493@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011216124818.L62493@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C1C30A8.633D60A3@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C1C30A8.633D60A3@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 15 December 2001 at 21:27:04 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> I was recently asked the question in a private Email: why are there no >> Arabs in the FreeBSD project? At least, I don't know of any. Also, >> I know of only one Indian in the project (Joseph Koshy). We have >> plenty of people from other countries. Any ideas why this should be? > > You're wrong, but of course it could be offensive for me to give > a partial list (either by listing people by their ethnicity, or > by missing someone, since either could be taken the wrong way). Hmm. I've already received a private reply in this vein. Certainly my intention was not to discriminate; quite the contrary. I would find it sad if obvious differences can't be discussed. I can't recall anybody getting upset, for example, when people asked why there are no female hackers. > Suffice it to say that I'm more interested in identifying the > Germans so that they can disassemble my Windows Winmodem drivers, > etc., to document the interfaces, and let me program FreeBSD > versions (since they're legally allowed to do that under German > law), Most laws allow this. Australian law does too. But there's no shortage of German hackers on the lists; let me know if you want a partial list. > and the South Africans (who can export crypto to the rest of us). I thought most laws allow this, too. I'm pretty sure Australian law does. I think the export from .za was because Mark Murray personally took it in hand. > If the U.S. government doesn't have a problem with establishing > rules which force public projects to establish engineering and > cryptographic center of excellence any place _but_ the U.S., neither > do I... I do, but for different reasons. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message