From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 21:02:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A103344FC for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mgcv0rcQz3Spt for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.8.33.9]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MHG4W-1jgqkP1kIa-00DDbL for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:02:21 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:02:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.1 i386 CD #1 image size not compatible with intended medium standard size Message-Id: <20200616230221.fac8a60d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200616165122.00001914@seibercom.net> References: <20200616122728.7bd2df41.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616115127.53797f2bdea77fcbe032b4bf@sohara.org> <20200616125704.76ad3a4d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616213651.ba41c212.freebsd@edvax.de> <1da9bbe1-8524-1389-dd0a-692be3bd8b4d@holgerdanske.com> <20200616220231.145829f5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616165122.00001914@seibercom.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:V8KVxyBYAThR23fRiCiceuEMVr6U9Ktae4BcwSCggRj8OmcJ2k1 ER0j4eotr+XkPXBM2A8uuYUVmmi7nLzJKbMdUTFbeO/dMIwNosn9eHjqe5TJHRcAHC1Olyy br6kkH0o8oTc9cJSNAsyrG+5iIQNheC1BGE7lLkIFSxOUKb7HtSTWuOD7T19UiassdcDVHV t+VNDPBXCG1CtGGAt5kjw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:mBuPAFPTS/A=:9FJMJRZdWkxBmHNlCvsDXD b9unSiX51DtFi8izeWQOGohHDIOkuA7ENnAqFL16a89t/RXfeXh7DLYAlUoHZKi5zACu92i+L D9Zx8zts+8FbbAA4ypldoqi1aIki9F4HpSiGrzBJYx6S+GdUoqIwYPxh3/zyOvRlz3vmv1cDY njXYxQ36QC6j7/P/81pOhTLwjrOBe+25ve5cWFNmReyur1D0I128poveRG6T6WKEwnGWLSK2A w5Kg1h46EuzPGp7lA2hznHZ2Whlh7oDhovLN94bRRNBFgZ6fHJdDbhm1CHNthOsDH8m1T1AvN s4dTmiDiQq9CnOTSp8SWWbigLsWLopdFZn5kudfBw9vt4DLZ6neK/LMBQ8nu0UI+rBR8EcOx3 2aSZKZ5+h9bCtUHOscmvS1nvOvuVhaVgRHvz1RCmIqLMyRmAD6aVyFmTv3kNXhUFbV3Vl9hhG RPHGRQyk1ELv/0U8xAQhSkvng/mP1U1++jGrRriloTDgSG13c1wKHn5fdvYRuxWXoChRyKZhR 9Hn6f1uXIe/DTpalJl97yUnOttwAzNhv5vEkQ80aqHnQLd5Y3F3bDJLBjiFU1/NcHgES0wmuI 7ni94h8WRuLTInIdeoA2MA9iflRl9U0pKGRQQ6QMx1ssG9zjZc5J/XzCaYehRFecskeUv3+3b s1wXL9jFHs6PFyfKdtdOcB8YCqla5/xMdkND6J1dcm7t2enQ1Q+sn5VVyPkUimnwSuHvFMAG2 miic17M0zIcRfb2G0ICcrIUqv5S24rc2O+p5ux3WG3h3tXFXeoOW4s98ys622OH++W88O7WKa 8GByy26lh2jl+uPfAnswYRW9mdgsJ2UtEo8TMXK8IyfmqDqDk8= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mgcv0rcQz3Spt X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:02:23 -0000 On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:51:22 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 22:02:31 +0200, Polytropon commented: > >On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:50:28 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> On 2020-06-16 12:36, Polytropon wrote: > >> > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:27:48 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> >> On 2020-06-16 03:57, Polytropon wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> A boot-only solution would not help, and also booting from > >> >>> DVD or USB is not possible, because it doesn't exist. > >> >> > >> >> Do you mean the computer does not have a DVD drive and does not > >> >> have USB ports? > >> > > >> > Correct. I could probably exchange the CD drive for a DVD drive > >> > (40 pin ATA interface), but it isn't able to boot from USB; there > >> > is a PCI card with USB 1.0 ports, but the system cannot boot from > >> > that resource (CMOS setup says: CDROM,C:,A:). The system also is > >> > not networked (it _could_ maybe boot via PXE on the NIC, but I > >> > don't have any PXE server infrastructure set up). > >> [...] > You still have not explained why you could not just use an external DVD > drive. I thought I made that clear; see the above paragraph, assuming "external" means USB. :-) > Amazon is selling them as cheap as $24. If you are really cheap, > you could just use it once and send it back for a refund. The PCI card in that machine only has USB 1.0 connectors, and it is not possible to boot (!) from anything attached there. In worst case, I have access to an external USB DVD drive, if I needed, but it wouldn't solve the problem. In such a case, it would be possible to boot from a regular USB stick, but as mentioned, it doesn't boot from any USB at all. Furthermore, even though that card is installed, I didn't test it yet for FreeBSD support (I only see it in the POST status screen where the PCI expansion cards are listed). However, I'm sure I have a DVD drive I could put into the machine in place of the CD drive; such a drive does exist around here somewhere, so I could use an installation DVD (where the "dvd1" image file fits the standard medium). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...