From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 04:02:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAD91065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6748FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q973qIIc098547 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:52:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:49:19 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120901 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:02:18 -0000 Hello list! When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. kldload vboxdrv.ko kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error Rebuilt VB and still this error 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 GENERIC amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 04:38:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F0B1065672 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7649E8FC17 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 04:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wc20so3787503obb.13 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q1q81Z9w0etlCJyx66XK5YrHQG/x+QnmbV/5/RtXxl8=; b=rF1YRRvkpvsttsqqirYvpL+f5+af0yY0iY46ToBB31l03x8P4MSZ+tti7i+iOvWq6R mK4wW6UwY/OHPvhGmjvv1icaPBLkdvi+thR/kk2abO2BygaZf22bTQgcEcAymQtmpIi2 ppIh2BXnk2ul9sRakTbjKHfiX859iTNO/Ef/soDczoj2LmU0IhyOWmiynYi71nvbeCQn we5xyCEwOzHDLAsCTKeTxBGRLwgTV5UtEe/F+saZ5kHi2akRLt4NnXtuZpljbsPX1hCw YUDzMr9wXiyYCEW/fho7fsG7S8MiXbrwN8r8H24qVxKLxM3FAN7BMVN/x3VGyD7+uGsw Ceqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.42.6 with SMTP id j6mr10326215obl.93.1349584686244; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.12.202 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:38:07 -0000 On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. > > kldload vboxdrv.ko > kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error > > Rebuilt VB and still this error > > 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 > GENERIC amd64 > Update your kernel sources to match the installed. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 05:12:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DBA106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E352E8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKj9p-00049Q-C9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:12:05 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:12:05 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:12:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:12:09 -0000 Hi, is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 07:03:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A3106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jau@iki.fi) Received: from jau.iki.fi (ip193-64-26-117.cust.eunet.fi [193.64.26.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D58F8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (sleipnir.thunderbolt.fi [192.168.1.131]) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9773MLc026892 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:03:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from jau@iki.fi) Message-ID: <50712935.20900@iki.fi> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:03:17 +0300 From: "Jukka A. Ukkonen" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (jau.iki.fi [192.168.1.42]); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:03:23 +0300 (EEST) Cc: Subject: FreeBSD & SCSI LUN reservation (essentially an exclusive lock) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:03:33 -0000 Hello all, Is there any way for a process in user space to try to trigger a SCSI LUN reservation in FreeBSD? This would be a very useful thing to have when using a multi-port storage device which can be simultaneously connected to multiple systems. --jau From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 07:17:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC3A106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alwindoss84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FA48FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so4337166vcb.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XSAtQj6buM7qZSsMWOWru+efaCKWOBFTc6RBoA+PWaI=; b=pSt0/DCXlD3TPskIZOvrT/xmwYuj0XUozuoYEU2ozKIJdQ6WJ9xP1uS/P4JJo8yA/u 53uZHSQT2Hk1+5ikhoV6Tbs53j0797krt3B/NeAkcqUy+BW1fMW19id1jt1idnfHS618 pZOk/GhBkOYf71jemcCDbPxQhmCg/aAg5yNYVfJFP/82Z2rDc+XV7E61z0BDD0BQYqg1 3uNleYSiXejQn0Y8pFTeWeBin8HX2gtFgFNpLbiRmx7am/OS0sPnYLSfFYrJAhV0VWzH mgK5XVoYC1dEY+qzBmg9xtQNedWYoO7N7gY3jMznNlpxsc4NumQlQ8Z3ZvBSPU+k+GZS i8Dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.172.167 with SMTP id bd7mr8194993vec.15.1349594246502; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.216.4 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:47:26 +0530 Message-ID: From: alwin doss To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:17:27 -0000 Hi, Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other than linux with enthusiasm. But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if you need that is!!! Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for this new journey to begin. -- Alwin Doss God's Beloved From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 07:38:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDCE106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE428FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x43so2438042wey.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6lNkpVld+DQymWR/rLJy2cRB98qO85Agkua2NCRUeE4=; b=M0w8+Xf+lbQgFzOHaSie1Kfgyaxi3OQUPoTp5ccmj9kaVRgA7mtfH11darNRoOfPNZ Ryxtc+SkBuVaY7sCT98euIhDShZ7PvgZPmAL+F6c5DKolFnvdRIFF2fJ9zXFP3hRsDaD 5o9Ao+LzVLGuLQS7SuPA3Ayn6Lv6FIqRxzNK6sOpXQNQP8X6PBIGpGk5nEL0ANCbpPQv 2EISTYOcM6ikw2UdGVvfqlAjg2MwaGqnbBAr2Z0PN33XCqDm/Sqp1WePWDJvqv52Y9IE ROw3BNhbhw7UMcfO7iGKe1/bKJCnb1veyUhmIWBd8oC2+LQaiGIDYvT4s9uTjLX2qzdu E8ag== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.206.152 with SMTP id l24mr7466066weo.66.1349595510375; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.156.14 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:38:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: alwin doss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:38:37 -0000 On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, alwin doss wrote: > Hi, > > Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other > than linux with enthusiasm. > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". > > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. > > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. > > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if > you need that is!!! > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > this new journey to begin. > > > -- > Alwin Doss > God's Beloved > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Take a look at PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.org/ Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:09:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6E106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59168FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9789EM6007248 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:09:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9789DnP007247 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:09:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:09:13 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121007080913.GB7105@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <99771.1349515504@tristatelogic.com> <20121006094552.GA39590@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121006113107.GA29404@saltmine.radix.net> <20121006113200.GB29404@saltmine.radix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20121006113200.GB29404@saltmine.radix.net> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Xterm options for correct man page display? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:09:17 -0000 [ Thomas Dickey wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 7:32:00 -0400 ] > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are com= ing > > > > out a bit garbled. > > > >=20 > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone wo= uld > > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > >=20 > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experimen= ted with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode c= haraters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also cha= nged my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to more,= and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now for m= e. > >=20 > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > >=20 > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resource > > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. >=20 > For example >=20 > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts Hi Thomas - is understand what your saying about uxterm - it does display u= tf8 fonts correctly when leaving the font resource alone, but the default f= ont is very small, too small for my eyes.=20 I installed a large number of utf8 supported X fonts, the ones I've tried d= on't display Chinese or Korean, or Russian fonts etc. It became a little fr= ustrating which made me change to another terminal. The link you provided d= oesn't appear to be active. Would you be kind enough to show the resource s= ettings you have used? I spent a long time reading through the man page and trying out different r= esource settings and combinations of them, European fonts were never a prob= lem, just the east Asian characters and Russian characters as I mentioned. I've set my locale to en_GB.UTF-8 using /etc/login.conf and then cap_mkdb /= etc/login.conf. As I said in my previous email, urxvt has no problem displa= ying these characters but I'd like to get uxterm working properly none the = less, as I'm sure the OP does as well. Best wishes, Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:12:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB561065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5AD8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q978CK0H061481; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:12:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q978CK0H061481 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q978CK0H061481; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Received: (from matthew@localhost) by lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q978CJas061480; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:12:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:12:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: alwin doss Message-ID: <20121007081219.GA60815@smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:12:26 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 12:47:26PM +0530, alwin doss wrote: > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I ha= ve > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Have you tried PC-BSD? It is effectively a 'distro' of FreeBSD, but aimed very much at desktop users. The installation process has been extensively modified, and should be much more accessible to new users. Also, laptops can be difficult to install FreeBSD on -- they tend to have non-standard versions of many of the typical components. Try looking up your hardware here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ to see what tricks and tweaks may be needed. If you'ld like to contribute towards FreeBSD, you will be more that welcome. The easiest and simplest way to start is to become an active participant on the various mailing lists or the FreeBSD forums. Then, as you become familiar with the system, find and characterise any bugs you run into, and submit well-formed problem reports, for any of the ports, docs or the base system. "Well-formed" in the sense that just saying "foo is broken" doesn't really help: it is much better to show output from foo illustrating the brokenness and explain what you'ld expect to see specifically. Even better is if you can include patches to fix the problem. Don't be disenheartened if your patches get quite rigourously critiqued -- that's a good sign: it usually means that committers are taking your ideas seriously but want you to improve the implementation before it can be committed. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBxOWMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxpKwCfTrRxIfdjsK4TwW8WxZXB23CE mwQAnRC8gWX4dPE8Qt5h9ZmHnoVh1LHG =xd/I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:17:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387731065672 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785FD8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q978HZBk007294 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:17:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q978HZgs007293 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:17:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:17:35 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121007081735.GC7105@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:17:41 -0000 [ Waitman Gobble wrote on Sun 7.Oct'12 at 0:38:30 -0700 ] > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, alwin doss wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other > > than linux with enthusiasm. > > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". > > > > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > > installation process is really hard, I must say. > > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. > > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. > > > > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone > > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. > > > > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > > FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if > > you need that is!!! > > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > > this new journey to begin. > > > > > > -- > > Alwin Doss > > God's Beloved > Take a look at PC-BSD > http://www.pcbsd.org/ > Waitman Gobble Yes i think you might benefit initially from installing PC-BSD. It IS FreeBSD, but the creators have put a great deal of effort and hard work into making it easier to install and to provide an X environment that is already set up and configured for you to use. If you were to install FreeBSD there are a lot of configuration changes to be made and software to install to get the set-up I believe you're looking for. PC-BSD will take away that part of it for you and most likely make your experience of FreeBSD a lot less headache free. It's default desktop is KDE 4 i believe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 08:26:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A94106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8928FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:26:46 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=RdJK+3M1i+XwzfW2MV68c28t6Ch3YKdlhdoD4NilP7w= c=1 sm=0 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=v-jSY8FYUwO_ATZMCzwA:9 a=AcdsImxJPJ9Yo6Ye3TGm+Q==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.34.76 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.34.76] ([74.134.34.76:44030] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id EF/5D-07499-5CC31705; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:26:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: alwin doss Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:26:47 -0000 > Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other > than linux with enthusiasm. > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if > you need that is!!! > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > this new journey to begin. > Alwin Doss > God's Beloved I don't think there is any such thing as "FreeBSD's very own GUI". FreeBSD's GUI is X Window System, but this is Unix's main GUI, which is also used by other (quasi-)Unixes including Linux. You can look through the FreeBSD Handbook online, even download it. You can find useful links from www.freebsd.org . Does anybody know about live USBs/CDs/DVDs for FreeBSD? Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 10:43:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B30106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8118FC1C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id q97AhJnA001226 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id q97AhImS001212 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:43:18 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121007104318.GA329@saltmine.radix.net> References: <99771.1349515504@tristatelogic.com> <20121006094552.GA39590@kontrol.kode5.net> <20121006113107.GA29404@saltmine.radix.net> <20121006113200.GB29404@saltmine.radix.net> <20121007080913.GB7105@kontrol.kode5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121007080913.GB7105@kontrol.kode5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Subject: Re: Xterm options for correct man page display? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:43:20 -0000 --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 09:09:13AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Thomas Dickey wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 7:32:00 -0400 ] >=20 > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are c= oming > > > > > out a bit garbled. > > > > >=20 > > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone = would > > > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > > >=20 > > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experim= ented with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode= charaters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also c= hanged my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to mor= e, and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now for= me. > > >=20 > > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > > >=20 > > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resour= ce > > > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. > >=20 > > For example > >=20 > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts >=20 > Hi Thomas - is understand what your saying about uxterm - it does display > utf8 fonts correctly when leaving the font resource alone, but the default > font is very small, too small for my eyes.=20 >=20 > I installed a large number of utf8 supported X fonts, the ones I've tried > don't display Chinese or Korean, or Russian fonts etc. It became a little > frustrating which made me change to another terminal. The link you provi= ded > doesn't appear to be active. Would you be kind enough to show the resour= ce > settings you have used? Well - the default size is a compromise (there are people who apparently use the smallest size regularly - looking at urxvt out-of-the-box, it's true there)(*). I generally use the font-size switching feature which I adapted from rxvt (one of the features which was omitted in urxvt), and switch to one of the two largest sizes using shift-keypad-plus. There are differences in the default fonts' coverage for CJK fonts, but between those two sizes I can see almost all characters. =20 > I spent a long time reading through the man page and trying out different > resource settings and combinations of them, European fonts were never a > problem, just the east Asian characters and Russian characters as I > mentioned. I haven't noticed a problem (with uxterm) for Russian characters - more info might help. =20 > I've set my locale to en_GB.UTF-8 using /etc/login.conf and then cap_mkdb > /etc/login.conf. As I said in my previous email, urxvt has no problem > displaying these characters but I'd like to get uxterm working properly n= one > the less, as I'm sure the OP does as well. (*) the default size when switching to TrueType fonts is roughly what I use normally for the bitmap fonts (much larger than the default), and I should have made it consistent. It's configurable, and I later added a note in the manpage explaining how to do this... The default font for xterm has "always" been the "fixed" font, which as noted above I find too small for normal use. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFQcVzEtIqByHxlDocRAp6qAJ9/GnSEH28OJueA2PI91S3ClCLJQACfRc3F I3jGn6ZoX1eHuonF7kdQp1Q= =H9Fp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 11:44:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD72106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3D48FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3843CD49; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:37:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97Bb70q001985; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:37:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:37:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:44:42 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Hi, > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. In case you are intending to "just" install a text processing program, try AbiWord. It is the TP designed to be used with Gnome, but builds independently (even though it requires lots of Gtk dependencies). If installed, you will "only" have the text processing program -- no spreadsheet, no database, no presentation graphics. It's a quite versatile program and can even read outdated MICROS~1 memory garbage formats. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 11:50:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47327106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31208FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2A43CD98; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:50:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97BoqRM002007; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:50:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:50:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: alwin doss Message-Id: <20121007135052.c9e9069e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New User to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:50:54 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:47:26 +0530, alwin doss wrote: > But something about Linux always troubled me "It's licensing", "such > complex family of distributions which are so different from each other". A valid point. With UNIX basic knowledge, you can master nearly any "outdated" commercial UNIX, BSD and Linux, even though it is sometimes complicated to find the "simple parts" (i. e. the UNIX parts) in Linux. :-) > Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have > never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the > installation process is really hard, I must say. I cannot conform that. Do you have a second system that you can use to refer to the documentation that exactly describes, with text and pictures, how to perform the installation process? Note that FreeBSD, in opposite to many other systems, comes with excellent documentation both for Internet and offline use. Check out The FreeBSD Handbook's installation section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html and the FAQ regarding this topic: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/install.html You'll see that the installation is quite simple: You just have to follow the instructions shown on the screen. > I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. It's a bit complicated to get _all_ features running on _all_ kinds of laptops has hardware manufacturers do not care much about standards and specifications. Still I hear from many people successfully running FreeBSD on their super-duper-new laptops, and I run it on my old and shady laptops. :-) > Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want > to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. Both languages can be used on FreeBSD. C++ is supported out of the box. Java requires you to install additional software due to licensing terms and lawyer blahblah. > I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. FreeBSD does not have a "very own GUI". In fact, it has many GUIs, and it doesn't have a GUI per se. Note that it is a multi-purpose system, that's why it doesn't come with a graphical installer so you can install it on a server (that doesn't even have a monitor). After installation, you can add as many GUIs as you like (for example, you can have both KDE and Gnome on your system, plus olvwm and even WindowMaker). The choice is _yours_. There is nothing directly tied to the system. However, PC-BSD comes with a preinstalled and preconfigured (!) KDE environment. VirtualBSD comes with Xfce, if I remember correctly. You can check out those projects: PC-BSD is said to be easier to adopt by Linux and even "Windows" users as it comes with a graphical installer, preconfigured environments, preinstalled software, and caters the "out of the box" community a lot. And VirtualBSD can be used from within a VM, it's a nice "try it out" system. http://www.pcbsd.org/ http://www.virtualbsd.info/ You can find screenshots there too. :-) > Not depending on anyone > (Gnome, KDE or....) I want it to be soooooo good that a commoner shoule be > able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. That's one of the primary advantages of FreeBSD: The system will not do anything until _YOU_ tell it to. Know what you do. Know where to find information (Handbook, FAQ, "man" command, mailing lists). > So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to > FreeBSD it would be great. Find something that you consider interesting and worth contributing to. Refer to this page for more information: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/contributing/index.html > Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for > this new journey to begin. If you enounter problems during installation, feel free to contact the list. Describe your problem as exact as possible, use the available troubleshooting resources first, like, "do your homework". :-) http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo http://www.freebsd.org/support.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 12:12:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5CC1065742 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6478A8FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKpil-0004EQ-2d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:12:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:12:38 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > Hi, > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. > ... It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, prepackaged. I hope that FB's office team finds time to figure it out. It would benefit FB-based OSs to reasonably customize their CDs. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 14:34:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECE0106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CB48FC1B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q97EYcR6004749; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q97EYcD7004746; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:34:48 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. > > kldload vboxdrv.ko > kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error > > Rebuilt VB and still this error > > 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 > GENERIC amd64 Rebuild virtualbox-kmod. Technically, that should be done every time system source has been updated and rebuilt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:01:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8429106566C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F5F8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811FB27CA8; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97F1FAf004896; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:01:22 -0000 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > > Hi, > > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? > > > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like > > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing > > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. > > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. > > ... > > It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, prepackaged. Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come with a _separated_ build for all the components that have such a corresponding package, or is it simply not containing the binaries for the "other" components? For example, you could build a whole OO or LO suite and just have one selected binary installed, but that wouldn't be very precise regarding the question "Writer only"... If it would be possible to have the components as separate ports in FreeBSD it would be helpful for selectively installing stuff, e. g. if only one or two components of the office suite are really needed (or allowed!) to be _built_ and installed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 15:44:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC5A106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235588FC12 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKt1t-0004eS-LD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:44:30 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > > > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? > > > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? > > > > > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like > > > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing > > > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. > > > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. > > > ... > > > > It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, > > prepackaged. > > Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come > with a _separated_ build for all the components that have such > a corresponding package, or is it simply not containing the > binaries for the "other" components? > ... For example, in Archlinux these are separate builds/packages: libreoffice-common libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-writer libreoffice-sdk libreoffice-sdk-doc libreoffice-extension-nlpsolver libreoffice-extension-pdfimport libreoffice-extension-presentation-minimizer libreoffice-extension-presenter-screen libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-math libreoffice-postgresql-connector libreoffice-scripting-javascript ... So, there is a lot of functionality thru modularity. For example, in CentOS (clone of RedHat) I can install libreoffice-writer only, which pulls libreoffice-common, and perhaps some extension packages (if so configured). jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 18:55:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912451065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefa.rossi96@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2BD8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x43so2718281wey.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=9X9gVcbpwkm+sBIdWX/57Eg2JpAztlRoY7CPVlDc5nI=; b=JEPlRQJbsPrh0Nell0c3JToOV8qWEyC0R2Fp7r2mY8nnbHUdmU0carLNAi5xpxjeak AvgVz2x4pLvWPQBikEHFs2m3mnHR7omI99lbXaWAxv26Ev4zO/UKQ9rlIiZfZn+EPF9A fcXjLqgfaPS4L8Di9KbBWrAVOxf+4QgbfbqqHQ78t0zpHMULagSXPomYtyLBVs1XkZqt 7GY2WMP1ZvBXGa5aI/VKBouX0G8YDZgJt+uqlsbV55xpYFKo4iMo0u0UgiOI9rv1LVaU YpekkQJFQdPGD6c+7Fo1koxBMbZeHSgfqAfNEIryuMOd+PmZ1Z0xZisoNps8nsR5kQ0n 7+ZQ== Received: by 10.180.79.103 with SMTP id i7mr16251758wix.13.1349636123783; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.37] (dynamic-adsl-78-12-73-181.clienti.tiscali.it. [78.12.73.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ct3sm15368768wib.5.2012.10.07.11.55.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:55:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefano Rossi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 20:55:20 +0200 Message-Id: <5DF28740-BBF5-47EE-827B-DD712ABD0F62@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: dd zero on the wrong disk. ZFS over GELI on that disk, recover possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:55:25 -0000 Hello, I made a tremendous mistake with a "dd of=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada1" = command. ada1 was the wrong disk. The command was interrupted after a few seconds (I only wanted to erase = the partition table), and a "gpart create -s gpt ada1" was given before = I realized my mistake. On ada1 there was a single partition, type freebsd, which was labelled = HD4. /dev/label/HD4 was geli encrypted with a keyfile (I still have the = keyfile), and /dev/label/HD4.eli was a zpool (named HD4 too). Is there any way I could save at least some of the data on that zpool? I = know geli makes backup of the metadata, I must have them somewhere on my = root partition. Is there any way to recover the few lost megabytes at the start of the = disk? Or, would it be possible to recreate the same partition table with the = single partition, relabel it and restore the geli backup to the labelled = partition? Would then zfs recognize it? Please, if you have any idea share it with me, the data on that disk is = vital. Thank you very much. Stefano Rossi= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 21:09:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D21106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C078FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCAF5081F for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:09:44 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:09:44 -0700 Message-ID: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:09:46 -0000 I am impatient by nature. Nowadays, whenever I use portinstall/portupgrade, I use the --batch option, so that I don't have to sit around at the console, waiting for and then accepting the default build options for a boatload of depended-upon ports for whatever I am actually trying to install or upgrade. However there's one instance where I don't know how to get this functionality, i.e. the functionality provided by the --batch option. On this page: http://cnsnap.cn.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports-using.html in Section 4.5.4.2, a user who is just installing a new system is instructed to do the following: # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade # make install clean (You have to do this in order to get portinstall/portupgrade installed. These tools can then be used to build & install other ports.) The problem is that these days, portupgrade itself is, apparently, dependent upon a whole slew of other ports. So while building portupgrade itself it appears that there is currently no escape from having to sit at the console and accept a whole bunch of default options for the whole bunch of other ports upon which portupgrade itself depends. Or is there? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 21:40:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A529D106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E3E8FC0A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ADE3CCD5; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97LehWe006261; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:40:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:40:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Message-Id: <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> References: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:40:47 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:09:44 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Nowadays, whenever I use portinstall/portupgrade, I use the --batch > option, so that I don't have to sit around at the console, waiting > for and then accepting the default build options for a boatload of > depended-upon ports for whatever I am actually trying to install or > upgrade. A workaround (and not directly the answer to your question) is to process the config dialogs before starting the build: # make config-recursive Once set, the options won't be requested on a second run. According to "man 7 ports", there's a BATCH setting, but it is descibed as: If defined, only operate on a port if it can be installed 100% automatically. If the default settings are okay for you, simply "entering through" the dialogs should work fine. I don't see any other significant reference in the manpage, so using portinstall --batch (or portmaster's equivalent if you're using that tool) should be the best solution. > The problem is that these days, portupgrade itself is, apparently, > dependent upon a whole slew of other ports. Usually portmaster is considered an alternative, and instructions on how to use it to solve port changes are provided when an entry to /usr/ports/UPDATING is added. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:03:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD40106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D88FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKywM-0005Pk-E6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:03:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <14763.1349644184@tristatelogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:03:10 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette tristatelogic.com> writes: > ... > However there's one instance where I don't know how to get this > functionality, i.e. the functionality provided by the --batch option. > ... There is no guarantee that either of those will work (try them separately): $ cat /etc/make.conf BATCH=yes # env BATCH=yes make jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:37:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03814106566B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35138FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKzTa-00005c-P9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:34 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:34 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:37:32 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:44:15 +0000, jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > >> On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: >> > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: >> > >> > >> > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: >> > > > Hi, >> > > > is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make >> > > > options) ? >> > > > Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? >> > > >> > > I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like >> > > OpenOffice) is designed as an "integrated package" containing >> > > various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. >> > > So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. >> > > ... >> > >> > It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, >> > prepackaged. >> >> Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come with a >> _separated_ build for all the components that have such a corresponding >> package, or is it simply not containing the binaries for the "other" >> components? >> ... > > For example, in Archlinux these are separate builds/packages: > > libreoffice-common > > libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress > libreoffice-writer > > libreoffice-sdk libreoffice-sdk-doc > > libreoffice-extension-nlpsolver libreoffice-extension-pdfimport > libreoffice-extension-presentation-minimizer > libreoffice-extension-presenter-screen libreoffice-gnome > libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-math libreoffice-postgresql-connector > libreoffice-scripting-javascript ... > > So, there is a lot of functionality thru modularity. > > For example, in CentOS (clone of RedHat) I can install > libreoffice-writer only, which pulls libreoffice-common, and perhaps > some extension packages (if so configured). Yes, but libreoffice-common is essentially the whole thing; libreoffice- base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress and libreoffice-writer are (relatively) small front ends. To all intents and purposes, Polytropon is right. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 22:57:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20CF106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9105B8FC08 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB250840 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:57:05 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:57:05 -0700 Message-ID: <15439.1349650625@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:57:06 -0000 In message <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: >A workaround (and not directly the answer to your question) is >to process the config dialogs before starting the build: > > # make config-recursive > >Once set, the options won't be requested on a second run. Hey! Wow! Thanks! That will work for me. Needless to say, I didn't know about that Makefile target, until now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:11:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A7A1065672 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C738FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TL00R-0004Z7-Ue for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:11:32 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:11:31 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:11:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:11:29 -0000 Walter Hurry gmail.com> writes: > ... > Yes, but libreoffice-common is essentially the whole thing; libreoffice- > base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress and > libreoffice-writer are (relatively) small front ends. > > To all intents and purposes, Polytropon is right. > ... Installed Size: libreoffice-common 224.7 MB libreoffice-base 7.2 MB libreoffice-calc 17.9 MB libreoffice-draw 48.0 KB libreoffice-impress 732.0 KB libreoffice-writer 11.2 MB libreoffice-sdk 26.2 MB libreoffice-sdk-doc 104.8 MB and not counting many other extensions. It may be relevant saving perhaps 100 MB when you compose CD functionality, and you want to offer Libreoffice Writer on it. Besides that, there is always a chance that one can look into the splits more deeply and discover that it can be done differently (better ?) and make libreoffice-common leaner, and offer some more stuff as separate packages or extensions packages. Who knows what FB office boyz could do with it if they really wanted. Anyway, the objective would be to be able to install each of components individually, as needed. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:15:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBFE1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-057.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3408FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q97NAXit084406; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:10:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20121007180748.05e44030@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:10:27 -0500 To: Bernt Hansson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121007-2, 10/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q97NAXit084406 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:15:36 -0000 At 10:49 PM 10/6/2012, Bernt Hansson wrote: >Hello list! > >When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. > >kldload vboxdrv.ko >kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error > >Rebuilt VB and still this error > >8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 >GENERIC amd64 Check /boot/loader.conf or use kldload to load the module manually. kldstat will list the loaded modules. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 7 23:24:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0973106564A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7F18FC16 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.33]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB23C27690; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:24:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q97NOE0E006920; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:24:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:24:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Message-Id: <20121008012414.34fd6a65.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <15439.1349650625@tristatelogic.com> References: <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de> <15439.1349650625@tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 23:24:18 -0000 On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:57:05 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <20121007234043.cadf5863.freebsd@edvax.de>, > Polytropon wrote: > > >A workaround (and not directly the answer to your question) is > >to process the config dialogs before starting the build: > > > > # make config-recursive > > > >Once set, the options won't be requested on a second run. > > Hey! Wow! Thanks! That will work for me. > > Needless to say, I didn't know about that Makefile target, until now. This target (and several other useful ones) are listed and explained in the manpage: "man 7 ports". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:01:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0648106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE88FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88CC50840 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20121008012414.34fd6a65.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:01:39 -0700 Message-ID: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:01:41 -0000 In message <20121008012414.34fd6a65.freebsd@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: ... >> > # make config-recursive ... >This target (and several other useful ones) are listed >and explained in the manpage: "man 7 ports". :-) Hey! Thanks again. I didn't know about that man page either! P.S. I'm actually doing an upgrade on the OS today (on one of my machines) also. I find that I have to re-read all the instructions for doing that each time, because I do it so infrequently that I forget the steps. The good news is that in the FreeBSD OS upgrade instructions, I found this: ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual intervention during the build process. (This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) So I guess that answers my original question! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 00:52:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CC01065670 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@sbcglobal.net) Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5C88FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [72.30.22.77] by nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 759447.80732.bm@omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 85351 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2012 00:51:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1349657515; bh=lg2Z6+hKmig3ZBIJAdEV+AojQkpO3SMwvLaG5d0J5GQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G9FqXBdAfl/EE8c8/gVdxWaaDvBC0XfrW3igx6OcTech/Tq3+t0UQXiKpSdbfF8nzO93ZQ86Rjn+nGy1FOGDL9i+kr1/IHSR1yaqB2tDm1A5Mcn0JIGIwHptFnfNVVRQLsGXpEusamp4Z/gHMOKza1q1gFVCE2j6gMAbsq0Rd/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lmsWH+39qI0KOXkiPndfRylVfVCRM4VOX8HKqCYOQJBPAOB0LPqluItETVEaELEo/Ujb8eOZwAm5pd7pWrriqzbHw1wyzBFurqRDEzpgyc04TevRdNXAV26zzInSt5hd0/DJjpL3uvUF8LPm3JDvTS264jAqjltGZBpR0iPSPQM=; X-YMail-OSG: CAn9Sq4VM1m5_bqELyphdFbge.Il2EgwSLukwlD4bzNS34i ZaGLO8s1IV1gIVT4J8eDVzrN1uO3QrAKKXnvfZyqzuO0OIAvVpJPf3Jy6EFE Vn6j0naunETdUJFlWxX4xzCLvfGpCMuZj6iF1w4Fo9JPLSVTPDF4d5AFwzmc 8P0qGDNU7l3Lpf8a.CAlVc.fjq7N4yt9rvx2AY0hPg5nZEZ4reLg0irI6DI0 z4Q0L14mDIlWFrwQsv.LvqPUkqblFA2CWbN.P_n2.Dprz1RdpsnzifxnBj1G uZORFcb4Vb3yzKzF_O6U2EpiXo89N36IuPryH0UxG5qZQzyzb8ruYQ5a34g_ gx_zU8KL6VRvLeXq9gli_y.3roYSRTMhq15jzCMwmnJQhGXPSY06HrogY8rF kSwRr_r7lJZGNTu9GhXu1pXNVq6YvwGZY.zYiMT5mGncsOHaGM1u5WOuWdUu LvM4vnILG_xhBHZIyjOJaUJeeDQ9z.ODa4b259ytzya4Jy6j5hKxFzkKzSJ4 qjbg. Received: from [75.37.1.111] by web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:51:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <1348983864.42502.YahooMailRC@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20120930081202.ea0b1af7.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <1349657515.80370.YahooMailRC@web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jin Guojun To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120930081202.ea0b1af7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-841283783-1789655809-1349657515=:80370" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:52:02 -0000 ---841283783-1789655809-1349657515=:80370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here are two DVDs burned by MS Windows. DVD1 is Visual Studio 2008 distributed by MS in UDF FS. mount_udf cannot mount it and mount_cd9660 can mount it but see only a readme.txt. % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 246:31.67 0 1109392 data 170 246:33.67 - 1109392 - - % file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'DVD1 DVD2 is burned under Windows XP by DVD utility in UFD FS. Although BSD file command does not recognize it, mount_udf can mount it correctly. It sounds like that we have issues in handling UDF FS. Attached are first two-page hexdump on both DVDs to help analyzing the problem. % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 0:18.26 0 1376 data 170 0:20.26 - 1376 - - % file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: data % ll /cdrom/4710/ total 3259 dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2048 May 23 17:52 ./ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 May 23 17:52 ../ -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 956262 May 23 17:36 ..-0003.amr -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 24576 May 23 17:45 ....-3.doc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 688384 May 23 17:39 RealPlayer_cn.exe ________________________________ From: Polytropon To: Jin Guojun Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sat, September 29, 2012 11:12:05 PM Subject: Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Jin Guojun wrote: > This problem seems having been there for a while, but was not pay > attention to it till now. > > Most DVDs burned under Windows machine cannot be mounted on FreeBSD > 8.3-R. It gives following error: > > # mount /cdrom > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument > > Some of those DVD can be mount, but no content can be found: > % df /cdrom > Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/acd0 4687968 4687968 0 100% /cdrom > % ll /cdrom > total 4 > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 112 Jul 13 2009 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 24 root wheel 512 Sep 25 23:11 ../ > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 135 Jul 13 2009 readme.txt* > > Searched bug report, but did not find related report. > Does anyone have seen this problem? If so, is any working around for > this problem? Cannot confirm that here, reading a various amount of data and media DVDs. Some of them are in ISO-9660 format, some of them are UDF. The reader is a cheap LiteOn drive, and OS version is 8.2-STABLE of last year. You can check a DVD's content by some tests before attempting to mount it. First check if they contain a data session, in this example it's a movie DVD from Russia: % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 222:10.26 0 999776 data 170 222:12.26 - 999776 - - Okay, one data track. Check _what_ data it is: % file - < /dev/acd0 /dev/stdin: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'NU POGODI' This media can be mounted like any data DVD, even if we assume a CD-9660 file system (commonly found on data CDs): # mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/acd0 /media/dvd # df -h /media/dvd Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/acd0 4.1G 4.1G 0B 100% /media/dvd # umount /media/dvd You could do some similar tests to see where you experience problems. It's quite possible that the DVDs made in "Windows" have some problems, e. g. not being closed, or having some strange data format that doesn't conform to the standard. Check if they contain a CD-9660 or a UDF file system, and which version it is. Note that FreeBSD also has a mount_udf command which could be working for those? When the CD-9660 file system is used, there are several extensions that help to deal with restrictions in the original specification (like file name length or depth of directory hierarchy). The standard is the RockRidge extension as used in many operating systems (or, to be correct, by many pre- mastering and burning tools), but "Windows" uses the "Joliet" extension. However, FreeBSD can understand both - _if_ they are properly done. 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with ESMTP id 39E0F8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n9so4446089oag.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:37:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wyh9BVSqfujkViuc/6F/EcdIHJPrsI3c+q358Lz0vuI=; b=Ic4ymWeHKkuW8JsbakpINI/EImUwjpj9aAXQtM3op6TOxgapRIUcryz7WFnZLSk7EF EEGI2Y3LLNJgG45WbrZFJOaCsHz8i3al9QIcez3SHnydmJppLLTd0NxvPXZARL/hqdcz nv52uHvq6jNAUJJ8OFbfJXFey0+GGPdUtKeKx99NcOQAFTWoR5lSTw+ZIzqwRiURAFzQ 0j95Hqnwhs7/uXh6NA95BqcgC2qDqv5WQuzJrYD2p2IwOYQSqths0xfMm7KjVseSmPya 7roMH9VbQizyGyoQhQzCekLBfPPTbka59p/MutKZI6ySJ0wHnjXgh9VfzI5a0XunTRZa O2VA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.7.65 with SMTP id h1mr3370594oea.66.1349660267952; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.233.39 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:37:47 +0800 Message-ID: From: zhang dahai To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: aobut mongodb update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:37:55 -0000 hi~master! I noticed the mongodb of port version is 2.0.6 in freebsd , but the mongodb latest version is 2.2.why port not update to new version? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 02:42:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFE0106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 02:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD21B8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 02:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38229 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2012 02:42:57 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2012 02:42:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50723db1.xn--btvx9d.k1208; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=QGy+/2tSbcw9GHKhTnG3acWOCgT1ZvCID79QLYTL2Ls=; b=trPWG39d7ndzQWXIAZKk0gdKjB6MoHU7wsbWd+jpqN93M9nUyIwb8cgoUhjt4gd3hYsWZO4iEGtPoHJ7CPQcWt15R6lCkkFseWLNx0yS6dXqRY+iRorSgpO1QcPEvHyoSTfhJ/WRvBOiPFRaa/dL2GR2FzYJpuCPwmJx2wR4Q7M= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 8 Oct 2012 02:42:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:42:58 -0000 > ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer > yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual > intervention during the build process. > >(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild. There are stil a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade. Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line shell script. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 04:08:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54F106566C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 04:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923B8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 04:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9848KMG010489 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q9848K9Q010486 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:08:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: DVD OPC errors with growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 04:08:22 -0000 I'm using growisofs to write DVDs of backup files. Some combinations of older drives and newer media give ":-( unable to PERFORM OPC: Input/output error". Can limiting write speed avoid these errors? And what ways are there to detect the fastest speed supported by both drive and media? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 05:54:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C331C106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashkan82r@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0728FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so11058127iea.13 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4JkOoQyZT7LBmg2MjAtH1bMwBJXIBcIC+vavxtmbp/E=; b=Xaf4ILNwOuwYvGv7+tyaGJ9CdbDuHW8BqoS3rjelpTf6Sa6frwA4y/YQ6dUG9dFqLe ifpAJ/dC5n4JnVr4QxQWG8flcmUH4WNrEgiBMapY/Z+1ijY3rzBttWjuI1kugLExBfl2 7QLHPMwg4F2M6Sl7SOluZcx7zw2k5BttOOIau0C5OueNAZ68l/TQze9e0tYS7OCqVjA9 5DbnAahEYW1qhsIU83LVBgPj2jQ5VWyZQlU6n4ZmCt4zzTMW++R0FD3O5AoBVt31EY/9 zXSPCm++JhrmFGALQAwP9ELShwJLTz8px7tpCSMWdGPchMwLL5AdDxmQWfr6mxAl/5++ 9YnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.236.72 with SMTP id us8mr7087067igc.70.1349675685439; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.20.133 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:24:45 +0330 Message-ID: From: Ashkan Rahmani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: geforce 310m CUDA problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:54:46 -0000 hi I'm really interesting to switch from Linux to FreeBSD for my personal use. Currently I'm using Archlinux on my Asus K52J notebook. Unfortunately (for me of course) it has geforce 310m cuda 1gb VGA, and it seems this VGA is not supported by FreeBSD. After installing FreeBSD/PC-BSD resolution is about 800x600 and I can not change it. Color depth is also terrible. Configuring xorg.conf automatically or manually can not fix my problem. installing nvidia driver from ports also can not fix my problem. Notebook has NVIDIA Optimus technology and I don't know may be it's source of my problem or not. anybody know how I can solve this problem!? PS: my friend has a dell 1555 notebook, and FreeBSD work nice and soft on it! VGA is nvidia. my very old notebook (acer) has ATI vga and FreeBSD work well too! --- Best Regards, Ashkan R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 07:39:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDFA1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527D88FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:39:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAPWBclDLevdH/2dsb2JhbABFu2KER4IgAQEFOEEQCxgJExIPAkYGDQEHAQGIALhDi0+GEAOmGYMA Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2012 18:09:38 +1030 Message-ID: <50728184.60306@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:02:20 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120918 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ashkan Rahmani References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geforce 310m CUDA problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:39:40 -0000 On 08/10/2012 16:24, Ashkan Rahmani wrote: > Unfortunately (for me of course) it has geforce 310m cuda 1gb VGA, > and it seems this VGA is not supported by FreeBSD. > > After installing FreeBSD/PC-BSD resolution is about 800x600 and I > can not change it. Color depth is also terrible. Configuring > xorg.conf automatically or manually can not fix my problem. > installing nvidia driver from ports also can not fix my problem. some ideas -- The release notes for nvidia-driver 304.51 lists the 310M as supported. Check that you have the latest version Maybe try with driver "nv" instead of nvidia to see if the issue is the driver. kldstat | grep nvidia to check that the nvidia kernel module has loaded. Is there any helpful info in Xorg.0.log Lines starting with (EE) are errors. (WW) warning lines may also be helpful. dmesg will show the startup log and may highlight any hardware detection problems. Have you installed x11/nvidia-settings? It is a gui app that should show you all available resolutions. The Xorg.conf from your archlinux install should produce the same results on FreeBSD. Or at least give hints to what is configured wrong. There is a chance that your linux install used a newer version of xorg - 1.7 is default in ports but you can set WITH_NEW_XORG to build 1.10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 08:43:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6906A1065676 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from secretary0613@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f68.google.com (mail-pa0-f68.google.com [209.85.220.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385B48FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f68.google.com with SMTP id fb11so1938413pad.7 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:43:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:reply-to:subject:date:importance :list-unsubscribe:disposition-notification-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:em-campaign:em-task; bh=qK8dkvemRt2w842Q1wya0FPGP9gl/yzPI3o3D1ZH9tU=; b=W+uBdsa4Vh/JSOfI8Aq5lrCdpi4NnCfHMiKt1wCXNxoUEVvcL9A8OB1yChQsjcQVEh mOIc8bH/YzOYNmABIG940dC4QguVc+F5Qf+aGTbEPI29Eb+UahcjyfxPHBmbMyIvEG9c TVSSZTwt0r9w8ZFmiViOrLgeRA/sLmKx0iu0uXO4r3q1GM4NacVAo6w6O6/5GWIg9mJu 0iyIGrvFNxigWNTga4nJ+Tq07xMH7jb73VD8Czysp6hcwrmVyJzrIRuQzemhZE10oscx T5l/Jp2iKT6xhyl56hOHQwXqZ5j3YQqFoWmIswLGmT6b+MMfiAKRuMjLsoeOasScQRZu S4QQ== Received: by 10.68.220.2 with SMTP id ps2mr51246123pbc.61.1349685828488; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 78523DC29DCF4E2 ([203.86.8.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm10543179pax.4.2012.10.08.01.43.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: juryviolin To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:43:44 +0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EM-Campaign: {9E20BB0B-7C94-4116-A9C1-035EB3C15594} EM-Task: 7 Cc: Subject: How are things? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: juryviolin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:43:49 -0000 Hi Hey.=20How=20are=20things?=20We=20may=20be=20getting=20down=20there=20to= =20your=20neck=20of=20the=20woods=20soon=20so=20maybe=20we=20can=20all=20go= =20grab=20a=20bite=20to=20eat=20or=20something.=20I=E2=80=99ll=20keep=20you= =20posted.=20Talk=20to=20you=20soon.=20 Lisa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 10:11:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6760106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bstone@aspirinsoftware.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E508FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id l39so3323575qcs.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=tzY0WVAzdMCP+HZNLFguRNeqz7xfn1NGM0QFyV1vZlg=; b=igRRAf/SdCEGq8h2BVh4wfHi0cIEFUU/JxexRgMxSG1JiXY3d69weSC12LOLS+vDOc Xupfsbrtscg0sESorSLrj0Eq2/cZ7OCRD4xNnqxGFZf2wIkmQHd0afyXrynISBHh08Cl 8wRKffj+2aA2HmTdez8tcu79FIpWlhFJRLy+DJ72zwEcIAIN28QR+scEf7KEqCHtxBuA zkhRvJEm3BDMIFtLeMZWB3zwtH7C3Td0MLKsVVf3QtfoAit6/I8aJeVgwSxjc/z0m9Jr eaiQWhaig8RGdePOg8qWTv+6U9QO3qkkaaLyIQ/8hUGCnp3VErA8WcZ6Dth7cqIyxpSD C8XQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.87.163 with SMTP id az3mr40423990qeb.8.1349691068701; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.104.71 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6E4F0E82-50D0-450A-A72A-3B7BD3795C5B@gmail.com> References: <20121005205748.GA39237@pcjas.obspm.fr> <6E4F0E82-50D0-450A-A72A-3B7BD3795C5B@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:11:08 +0800 Message-ID: From: Brad Stone To: "zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk4G0y4Du2121XzQVaf9nEUfjv/uDmU7nwIZVHsBC5oEGEuwXy/ROjcaPc1YNTo+dwkDWlv Cc: Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] How many disk in one pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:11:09 -0000 Here's an example of a ZFS-based product you can buy with a large number of disks in the volume: http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/petarack.htm 360 3T drives A full petabyte of storage (1080TB) in a single rack, under a single namespace or volume On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Albert Shih wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm actually running ZFS under FreeBSD. I've a question about how many >> disks I =ABcan=BB have in one pool. >> >> At this moment I'm running with one server (FreeBSD 9.0) with 4 MD1200 >> (Dell) meaning 48 disks. I've configure with 4 raidz2 in the pool (one o= n >> each MD1200) >> >> On what I understand I can add more more MD1200. But if I loose one MD12= 00 >> for any reason I lost the entire pool. >> >> In your experience what's the =ABlimit=BB ? 100 disk ? > > I can't speak for current FreeBSD, but I've seen more than 400 > disks (HDDs) in a single pool. > > -- richard > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 10:47:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3142F106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yh0-f54.google.com (mail-yh0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF32E8FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f54.google.com with SMTP id s35so834716yhf.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:47:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MCBb3tG8NcxAA2ni6gjGE+EVyycpwQx+vPq+JKblHG8=; b=rsJClxid2JVCDdu7+pRKs4sKIr499+wrsAl8CSNWu3gbKt1uXF8s1hCqZIDCy+GaGM 3arsuvjdiLwGoO4mr1Wmg9WxehNU/eDoR+xGIT/llD7vApNkJTm1R6j0CxX9EH2tE5rP wDgPJkDDXAQSJcsxrBID5RLtKeJQVB0a6TaPE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=MCBb3tG8NcxAA2ni6gjGE+EVyycpwQx+vPq+JKblHG8=; b=TyAAH/GjhOO+uIkAvI5oYm9puLeYzEwkuPejxBvCIKykMGxt3iqqdh/a9L4wc9dldV uEDnP4/jOCcFKhlrXzZi7q3gq1BtR53jJWzp0mSnANap9syGGdumqjUmtckZosgfvUiV IqqAu816MmERuWxT1Qt+z15cR04hCO46dFo1kQWBGkcyQ+WYEV231stgysL58TZxZUfz lJVSI1fCV7oeLqDFrVeDiqkcNnt5vVYL12n8dodtmebqAipp7o6Y/6H28BGAR8EVg3mN HqMbtcS+KPryP7tgKIyREboU+lT14O4UrdXrC94SaCiJleAR1C+/Jew/QUqlnu2ITGlF S3ig== Received: by 10.236.191.6 with SMTP id f6mr15160274yhn.126.1349693235397; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a6sm16721287anm.22.2012.10.08.03.47.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3XZyv41pfBz2CG5b for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:47:11 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20121008064711.507a402e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkFK8V8cZabD1eQJ6W1dEhb1ws8p22JFu8wgvSuvrFyp4Y97JD01ZSO9h0zJGLop8qEa13a Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:47:22 -0000 On 8 Oct 2012 02:42:33 -0000 John Levine articulated: > > ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will > > answer yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need > > for manual intervention during the build process. > > > >(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) > > Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and > does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild. There are stil > a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade. > > Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line > shell script. While you are at it, you might want to give "portmanager" a spin. While it can be a bit of a monster when used with the "-p" flag, I have found it capable of fixing problems and building ports that portupgrade and potmaster both choked on. As always, read the documentation thoroughly first. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ All's well that ends. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 10:52:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7969106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5808FC1A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98AqQU8069778 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:52:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by kontrol.kode5.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q98AqQCO069777 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:52:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@kode5.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kontrol.kode5.net: jamie set sender to jamie@kode5.net using -f Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:52:25 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20121008105225.GB7670@kontrol.kode5.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <15743.1349654499@tristatelogic.com> <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121008024233.46787.qmail@joyce.lan> x-operating-system: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 x-pgp-fingerprint: A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38 x-pgp-key: 1D31DC38 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at kontrol.kode5.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Building Ports: Is there a "make" equivalent for --batch ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 10:52:36 -0000 [ John Levine wrote on Mon 8.Oct'12 at 2:42:33 -0000 ] > > ... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer > > yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual > > intervention during the build process. > > > >(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.) > > Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and > does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild. There are stil > a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade. > > Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line > shell script. Yes, I use this myself and it is very good. I used to use portupgrade but changed when I started using 9.x, i'm not sure why. But to learn it's 4000 line shell is quite amazing. Its author must have some excellent shell wizardry skills! :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 11:03:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72976106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp.eutelia.it (mp1-smtp-5.eutelia.it [62.94.10.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF178FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns2.biolchim.it (ip-188-188.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.188.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eutelia.it (Eutelia) with ESMTP id 49C65148DFF for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-17-176.41-151.net24.it [151.41.176.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns2.biolchim.it (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98AhoQq087730 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98AheCL034092 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <5072AE5C.9010209@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:43:40 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <505DA36E.406@netfence.it> <505DDCB5.2080801@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <505DDCB5.2080801@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ns2.biolchim.it [192.168.2.203]); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Chesar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:03:30 -0000 On 09/22/12 17:43, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >> I'm using tomcat-6.0.35 and openjdk6-b24_4, if that helps. > > I'll try openjdk either with tomcat6 or 7. Hi Michale. I finally got around trying openjdk, but that didn't work either. I also tried within a jail (which I created from scratch), just to be sure there was no conflict, but nothing changes. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 11:21:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB581065673 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802B8FC22 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [84.44.210.110] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TLBOM-0007tM-ED; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:20:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:33:41 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20121008113341.2f040b54@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD OPC errors with growisofs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:21:23 -0000 --Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren Block wrote: > I'm using growisofs to write DVDs of backup files. Some combinations of= =20 > older drives and newer media give ":-( unable to PERFORM OPC:=20 > Input/output error". If you are concerned about this, you could try cdrecord to see if it makes a difference. =20 > Can limiting write speed avoid these errors? That depends on both the drive and the media. It's also possible that it makes matters worse, though. It's a myth that reducing speed guarantees better results. > And what ways are there to= =20 > detect the fastest speed supported by both drive and media? The drive is supposed to figure it out on its own. If your drive supports it, you can use readcd to measure how well burned media can be read and do a couple of experiments with various burn speeds to see if it affects the results for your drives and the media you care about. Fabian --Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBynfoACgkQBYqIVf93VJ0v3gCgxeybXGwqUVZBeveNOmIPkg8y vxwAoKFEo7cbkp/ZQ3YFd9MKXOkU1dnQ =s17w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/i4SZMA9rAa5ufgZh7Veefzc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:14:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CD61065672 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D258FC23 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z9so1682324dad.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:user-agent:x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=LqTfY662b7gF9mGzvBsVu95zY7nFjIW//BxYOhGXg5w=; b=VBfQEOCL18V2v9bK1v6dwcoy81Q3dHxmQz55tCCyP+2r2gAvnkFCOEVYDzIZyWubXb PjaY5LkjSylbtUctsB4DV/n8jVDpF1zBrXBiSj0qnm2OnWJzlHQpK828ZWQJInyFQMHk KA7betUJPTgRVc8iS5u2mWrYw14/P/ppRs86XNdEDOhzAhGR1mQ/YUuJVrQmKZc8eh2o +/xJl02Ppe/7noTjK16cznjUj+yI1GOlQOiLYnUcZeotrkwE8ZegJIJsEVGfQkcj1DXX Ze97rRMkUDteiioFdEYOIaFdgp35hcMsM6n8n2bnQ7TjHw4sagAbC45gtMkKNxVewOvm 6uFQ== Received: by 10.68.234.232 with SMTP id uh8mr52772365pbc.94.1349698488720; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([123.117.46.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id it5sm10656814pbc.10.2012.10.08.05.14.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:14:39 +0800 Message-ID: <86lifhma8g.fsf@venux.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Do I need to use sysutils/ataidle to avoid high LCC for my hard drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:14:49 -0000 Hi list. I am currently running FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE on my laptop. And I am wondering if I still need to use sysutiles/ataidle to avoid high Load Cyle Count for my hard drive. Is there still a need to run this utility to avoid LCC under FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE? Thanks for your attention! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:16:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68184106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED09C8FC22 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [84.44.210.110] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TLCFe-0003G0-DH; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:16:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:13:29 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Stefano Rossi Message-ID: <20121008141329.45b6396b@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <5DF28740-BBF5-47EE-827B-DD712ABD0F62@gmail.com> References: <5DF28740-BBF5-47EE-827B-DD712ABD0F62@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd zero on the wrong disk. ZFS over GELI on that disk, recover possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:16:09 -0000 --Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefano Rossi wrote: > I made a tremendous mistake with a "dd of=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada1" com= mand. ada1 was the wrong disk. Ooops ... > The command was interrupted after a few seconds (I only wanted to erase t= he partition table), and a "gpart create -s gpt ada1" was given before I re= alized my mistake. > On ada1 there was a single partition, type freebsd, which was labelled HD= 4. /dev/label/HD4 was geli encrypted with a keyfile (I still have the keyfi= le), and /dev/label/HD4.eli was a zpool (named HD4 too). >=20 > Is there any way I could save at least some of the data on that zpool? I = know geli makes backup of the metadata, I must have them somewhere on my ro= ot partition. >=20 > Is there any way to recover the few lost megabytes at the start of the di= sk? > Or, would it be possible to recreate the same partition table with the si= ngle partition, relabel it and restore the geli backup to the labelled part= ition? Would then zfs recognize it? The geli and glabel meta data is located at the end of the partition so it shouldn't be affected by the dd if you only deleted a couple of MBs at the beginning of the disk. If you previously weren't using a gpt layout on ada1, however, the gpart call might have corrupted the meta data for both in which case you'll have to recreate it. If the glabel meta data wasn't corrupted, the label should show up again once you recreated the partition at the previous position. If the label shows up, it's likely that the geli meta data isn't affected either and you can try to geli attach the provider and import the zpool. After a zpool scrub you'll know which files were damaged. If the label doesn't show up after the partition table has been corrected, you'll first have to recreate a label and "geli restore" the meta data as documented in geli(8). I'd recommend that you backup the whole disk and work on the backup until you know that the recovery process works. This would allow you to use zfs snapshots to be able to quickly rollback the backup if you need several attempts to get the partition layout right and decreases the chances that the damage gets worse. Out of curiosity I just experimented with a 1 GB disk where the label was on md0s1 which was created with "gpart add" using the whole disk and could thus easily be recreated: fk@r500 ~ $ls /dev/label/recovery-test=20 /dev/label/recovery-test fk@r500 ~ $zogftw cmd zogftw_clear_device /dev/md0 2012-10-08 13:48:51 zogftw: Clearing /dev/md0. Feel free to abort this with= ctrl-C ^C28+0 records in 27+0 records out 28311552 bytes transferred in 3.715472 secs (7619907 bytes/sec) fk@r500 ~ $ls /dev/label/recovery-test=20 ls: /dev/label/recovery-test: No such file or directory fk@r500 ~ $sudo gpart create -s GPT /dev/md0 md0 created fk@r500 ~ $sudo gpart add -t freebsd /dev/md0 md0s1 added fk@r500 ~ $ls /dev/label/recovery-test=20 /dev/label/recovery-test fk@r500 ~ $zogftw import 2012-10-08 13:49:57 zogftw: recovery-test's location isn't registered yet! 2012-10-08 13:49:57 zogftw: No pool name specified. Trying all unattached l= abels: recovery-test=20 2012-10-08 13:49:57 zogftw: No geli keyfile found at /home/fk/.config/zogft= w/geli/keyfiles/recovery-test.key. Not using any. You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: "Fabian Keil " 4096-bit ELG-E key, ID 351A59E5, created 2006-08-19 (main key ID BF2EA563) 2012-10-08 13:50:04 zogftw: recovery-test attached 2012-10-08 13:50:09 zogftw: recovery-test imported fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool status recovery-test pool: recovery-test state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an unrecoverable error. An attempt was made to correct the error. Applications are unaffected. action: Determine if the device needs to be replaced, and clear the errors using 'zpool clear' or replace the device with 'zpool replace'. see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-9P scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM recovery-test ONLINE 0 0 0 label/recovery-test.eli ONLINE 0 0 116 errors: No known data errors # Apparently a bunch of ZFS meta data was corrupted but could be # corrected, scrub the whole pool to see what else got damaged. fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool scrub recovery-test fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool status recovery-test pool: recovery-test state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an error resulting in data corruption. Applications may be affected. action: Restore the file in question if possible. Otherwise restore the entire pool from backup. see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-8A scan: scrub repaired 1.52M in 0h0m with 3601 errors on Mon Oct 8 13:51:2= 3 2012 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM recovery-test ONLINE 0 0 3.52K label/recovery-test.eli ONLINE 0 0 7.78K errors: 3601 data errors, use '-v' for a list fk@r500 ~ $zpool list recovery-test NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT recovery-test 1016M 442M 574M 43% 1.00x ONLINE - Your mileage may vary ... Fabian --Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlByw2sACgkQBYqIVf93VJ24FgCgyhKVSRUxUGkaAid1bq5HoO8M KkcAnj9NGw6+00b61MCXWxgJDwN+FfUP =rUoJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/xO72qM87_WPjZJwSoriJYxk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:45:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95471065673 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E21E8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so2646412lag.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:45:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oQk5hH+HQ6/4uJ5V+cmEzbdxCV+uOFOJB6G18BilXO4=; b=yJlbCkiVCDtCB7j2kFjTXLsNumQ1gVZ5yhEu9QKbbDbuMUcSLX6PqsLLQuSyJpDqEi +/CFGK6YOu/w0eGXADrMQavZttpRTCHRyz1MyRFFBJNCLtkmc5XHz8HdIPWAODtnbpRM 2l9UIv2G/L8DOjDgjtl0RXhc+Lbvrr2OBI6ozcNHBLe+fqyo7bgyp/PpI6Mg3ovru3hb vNnZ2waweM+1ZrjruNitGx6oaKx51RWoJayJzGi7d8YmCdKbA28M5wkRDKvdsddOEM60 jAHP1cDmyws8RT3QuV51+3Dukk5WPV35FGHINrBUwNC2edZLNyDIv4tfGZ4I2MURUyoL 0Vyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.24.74 with SMTP id s10mr6706701lbf.122.1349700322945; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.144.198 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:45:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: S80wwVm2yPct-HYhTJv3KyCf7JA Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Building a release with custom packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:45:24 -0000 Hi All, If anyone has interest, I have a new blog post on building a FreeBSD release with custom packages at http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/08/building-freebsd-media-with-custom-packages/ -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 12:58:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535981065672 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C248FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TLCuK-0008C6-EY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:04 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:04 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20121007133707.4f7fb7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121007170115.542925aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:58:02 -0000 jb gmail.com> writes: > ... A follow up. I e-mailed FB office boyz and received a response, which is safe to share with the list: " Baptiste Daroussin bapt@freebsd.org This is almost not doable for many reason: 1/ the ports itself will be over complicated to only allow compiler some part of libreoffice imho (that is the main reason I didn't make it at first 2/ splitting the build won't give you much 3/ what linux distributions do it splitting the result of the build, not the build itself, and the ports tree does not allow this for the moment. regards, Bapt " Well, if you have an opinion make it count now when this stuff is discussed. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 13:01:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C89106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ziyan@ce.pdn.ac.lk) Received: from hantana.pdn.ac.lk (unknown [IPv6:2401:dd00:30::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291A38FC1D for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postfix.local (neumann.ce.pdn.ac.lk [10.40.18.5]) by hantana.pdn.ac.lk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DB35C04F for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:31:00 +0530 (LKT) Received: from [192.168.1.240] (unknown [112.135.60.196]) by postfix.local (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F175611F6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:30:59 +0530 (IST) From: Ziyan Maraikar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:30:58 +0530 Message-Id: <5ED48B8E-D375-447F-9F4C-267CF7834E30@ce.pdn.ac.lk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Subject: Serial console getty broken after upgrading to 9.1-RC2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:01:02 -0000 Hello all,=20 I had a working serial console setup on Freebsd 9.0 for remote access = via my HP server's BMC serial console. I recently built and installed = 9.1-RC2 on a separate dataset on this machine's ZFS pool and merged in = my existing configuration from 9.0.=20 On 9.1-RC2 I no longer get a login prompt. However, I still do have = access to the loader prompt and can see the kernel boot messages on the = serial console. I built my GENERIC kernel and world using clang with = default flags. I see that the kernel identifies the serial port getty = has spawned on the port. # dmesg |grep uart=20 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0=20= uart0: console (115200,n,8,1)=20 # ps axl|grep ttyu0=20 0 5405 1 0 20 0 11996 1416 ttyin Is+ u0 0:00.00 = /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyu0=20 Here are the relevant configuration bits I copied over from 9.0 setup = that works:=20 /etc/ttys:=20 ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" screen-256color on secure=20 /boot/loader.conf:=20 boot_multicons=3D"YES"=20 boot_serial=3D"YES"=20 comconsole_speed=3D"115200"=20 console=3D"comconsole,vidconsole"=20 # kenv |grep uart.0=20 hint.uart.0.at=3D"isa"=20 hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x10"=20 hint.uart.0.irq=3D"4"=20 hint.uart.0.port=3D"0x3F8"=20 Have there been any changes to the serial console setup in 9.1 or has = anybody else experienced similar problems?=20 __=20 Thanks,=20 Ziyan.=20= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 14:31:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2B106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karolis.eigelis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FDB8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so12366748iea.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RJ9vIc+YrLup9hv7BLqeHChmknwp1gP59KKFw9qzPXs=; b=vhht+wU1/KZNUCqSpRYxT59yBaEXAh6DaVZeQsq6hu4kQ+Pn3ZH9g0t1eNmlGVOhID 64ClUkiTIClXt6hFyogEsSvwIftqSr2VgcNXAYQViQNDVACHj58aPuxssV617opzZIPM TKSu4+5HWwUJnIiYTTQ0xyrBDExhzxw4Ap+iPU3jsYp4Xo5Gu6X6lnHjvEdZ9uJcPwwO 4Kc5cOq6VG2UkTiPzrlySlNmGzWywY8Xwe62P3YS1si0NNKVS/u+TAmRod8q8hGqrInG aNcIyRCfKHbsexkHowslhLIFClGEdHYN2MUE9SjpTbrNFHfAPOnsWmTNpg8K1g8iq9bi 1qKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.193 with SMTP id vy1mr7970375igb.46.1349706664317; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.189.167 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: Karolis Eigelis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 4k alignment for attaching new disk to zfs mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:31:11 -0000 Hi, Before creating a pool i setup two disks mirror with gnop trick to have ashift=12 - 4k pool alignment. I also did that for the disk partitions (gpt -a 4k option) to have partitions 4k alignment (diskinfo -v disk shows stripesize=4096 for both disks). Now i replaced one disk with a new one, but cant get the diskinfo or gpart list to display stripesize=4096 - did everything as usual (gpt -a 4k for partitions). Or do i have to re-create my pool with gnop trick again ? Do you have an idea if that at all is needed ? Some other information i found says that as long as pool is 4k alignment is done (ashif=12) you do not need to do 4k alignment for new disk for partitions with gpart -a 4k option. Could someone please comment on that ? Many Thanks, Karolis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:12:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1331065672 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC178FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLEhc-0000gl-Bu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:53:04 +0200 Received: from [10.2.1.187] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLEhc-0000gi-2K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:53:04 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:52:24 +0200 X-Originator: 193.6.63.109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FreeBSD update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:12:27 -0000 Hello: I=20updated=20FreeBSD=209.0=20RELEASE (FreeBSD=20=209.0-RELEASE=20FreeBSD=209.0-RELEASE=20#0:=20Tue=20Jan=20=20= 3=2007:15:25=20UTC=202012 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC=20=20i386) using=20freebsd-update=20fetch=20and=20freebsd-update=20install=20command= s. 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Regards, Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:24:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71600106566C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lbc@bnrlabs.com) Received: from mail.bnrlabs.com (did75-5-82-224-61-5.fbx.proxad.net [82.224.61.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315EB8FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [172.20.96.112]) by mail.bnrlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDC446094 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:14:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5072EDCC.4040303@bnrlabs.com> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:14:20 +0200 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:24:30 -0000 Hi, I've seen the term "in-core" a couple times while reading up about BSD disk labels. Does it refer to data that is cached in kernel memory ? Context examples : - fdisk(8) outputs "parameters extracted from in-core disklabel" - bsdlabel(8)'s manual explains that the -n (dry run) parameter "does not install the new label either in-core or on-disk". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:25:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A9106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF768FC19 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLFCZ-0003bE-F0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:25:03 +0200 Received: from [10.2.1.173] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLFCZ-0003bB-5x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:25:03 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2f649b2d.5934b132.5072f028.6dfd0@lajt.hu> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:24:24 +0200 X-Originator: 193.6.63.109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: proxy setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:25:37 -0000 Hello: My=20FreeBSD=209.0-RELEASE=20system=20is=20behind=20a=20institutional=20f= irewall. 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Thanks, Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:29:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67781106566C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37D88FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-62-216-215-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.215.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q98FTmqo021271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D346F4EC for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fechner.net Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UASJfw2Cx--4 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from matthias-fechners-macbook.local (ppp-62-216-215-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.215.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D62406F4E2 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:29:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:29:46 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (anny.lostinspace.de [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:29:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: ZFS and zpool mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:29:59 -0000 Dear list, I installed a freebsd with freebsd on a zfs root and only one disk: pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 This disk was now insterted into the computer and boots fine. The next step I wanted was to setup a mirror with a second disk. So I inserted a second disk, configured everything with gpart and added the disk to the zroot with: zpool add zroot gpt/disk1 (I think I had to execute zpool add zroot mirror gpt/disk1, this is not clear from the man page) And now I have a problem, it seems not to be a mirror but a stripe: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 Is there any chance to get it into a mirror? I don't think there was anything written to the second disk but I cannot remove it anymore. Has anyone a tip for me, howto convert the stripe to a mirror? Thanks, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:33:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD42106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karolis.eigelis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9838FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so12602250iea.13 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kfnD7IrjO1FK/R0K19NCaiS7K6iwOUOC3hU6Tl0wPjs=; b=RDQFDfrBR4j1LIP26zFxHD1tBs+Yzv7BwryT5WsOrRITwPJdqiyREmsMNrGLoRJejf IXupwtwghW/sX+oMtyUX0TS1Jnipg2/9T0RvckIf1TEHJgMCIboEHsKno7mteFCqhhCZ 51YXbvO9aL17vYhzzUD8zDpa6lJcoWMwn1LJKuobaxCN3PT+njvfE06B9wwPG5/MjWG6 DsqO5TngTbDjWM+1Twbhw/gu+A2r/jBrjD+dsU8kmmFqIV57mlXaJd3BoW0CVBJ3j/FW X63Wte0Foi+bt0gLJrzrBJz+4YurT4E3l2c+2EPwgeEQIaWdvlwUL/8jznT9mcf9OTJt +dbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.159.198 with SMTP id xe6mr6416357igb.46.1349710419888; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.189.167 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> References: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:33:39 +0200 Message-ID: From: Karolis Eigelis To: Matthias Fechner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS and zpool mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:33:41 -0000 if you want a mirror you need to do "attach" a new disk :) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Dear list, > > I installed a freebsd with freebsd on a zfs root and only one disk: > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > This disk was now insterted into the computer and boots fine. > The next step I wanted was to setup a mirror with a second disk. > > So I inserted a second disk, configured everything with gpart and added > the disk to the zroot with: > zpool add zroot gpt/disk1 > (I think I had to execute zpool add zroot mirror gpt/disk1, this is not > clear from the man page) > > And now I have a problem, it seems not to be a mirror but a stripe: > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > Is there any chance to get it into a mirror? > > I don't think there was anything written to the second disk but I cannot > remove it anymore. > > Has anyone a tip for me, howto convert the stripe to a mirror? > > Thanks, > Matthias > > -- > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to > produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- > Rich Cook > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 15:35:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119CF106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ACC78FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Oct 2012 15:35:52 -0000 Received: from port-92-206-34-14.dynamic.qsc.de (EHLO CoreI5) [92.206.34.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 08 Oct 2012 17:35:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18YHvcfl3oYhmW0YURoFFfuW6lxTwmDnVvE8HlgT+ NJJXFdPu99afZ/ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:35:51 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Istvan Gabor Message-Id: <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> References: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:35:55 -0000 On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:52:24 +0200 Istvan Gabor wrote: > As I remember correctly during the fetch I saw a message that the current patch level is p4. > After rebooting the computer uname gives p3 on the updated system: > > Why does uname reports p3 while freebsd-update indicates p4 state? Hi, if freebsd-update does not update the kernel uname will not show the 'correct' patch level. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:18:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97310656C1 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558968FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TLG2O-0001wy-OS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:18:37 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:18:36 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:18:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 5 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1) Subject: portmaster backup package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:18:35 -0000 Hi, what to do with that backup package (-b option) after installation of new port failed ? jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:23:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA281065744 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793F98FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q98GMqLH029828; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:22:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:22:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lbc@bnrlabs.com In-Reply-To: <5072EDCC.4040303@bnrlabs.com> Cc: Subject: Re: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:23:20 -0000 > Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:14:20 +0200 > From: "Lucas B. Cohen" > Subject: what is an "in-core" disklabel ? > > Hi, > > I've seen the term "in-core" a couple times while reading up about BSD > disk labels. Does it refer to data that is cached in kernel memory ? > > Context examples : > > - fdisk(8) outputs "parameters extracted from in-core disklabel" > > - bsdlabel(8)'s manual explains that the -n (dry run) parameter "does > not install the new label either in-core or on-disk". 'cached' is not _technically_ exactly accurate, but you have the concept basically correct. The O/S reads the label information and stores it in an internal data structure, Then, when it needs to use that data (frequently!:) it uses the values in that internal structure, rather than attempting to re-read from the disk, itself. Technically, it's _not_ "cached" -- cached data is used to short-circuit a 'read' attempt, using an in-memory block of byte instead of an actual disk transfer. The -effect- is similar, but there are *important* differences. 'Cache' data is integrated with I/O operations, and a _write_ to the place where the data was read from -invalidates- the cached data, whereupon, the next read attempt will *not* be short-circuited, and the actual on-disk data will be returned. In the case of the disk label, it is read (once) into the internal data structure, and only the internal data is used after that. A userland app can change the 'on disk' data -- or trash it completely -- and what the O/S "thinks" the label info is will NOT be affected by that change to the 'on disk' data. The warnings you see in the documentation, are reminders that the O/S's 'internal' data and the 'on disk' data are *NOT* necessarily the same. That looking at _one_ source of that data does *not* guarantee that what you see =there= is the same as what is in the other place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:27:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D4E106566B for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ateve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457768FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=rpi-1.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TLG60-0008LR-NZ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:22:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by rpi-1.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TLGBr-0001xf-BN; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:28:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:26:50 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Matthias Fechner Message-Id: <20121008172650.04011d5a18d710af8d1f23b0@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> References: <5072F16A.70505@fechner.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS and zpool mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:27:00 -0000 On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:29:46 +0200 Matthias Fechner wrote: > Dear list, > > I installed a freebsd with freebsd on a zfs root and only one disk: > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > This disk was now insterted into the computer and boots fine. > The next step I wanted was to setup a mirror with a second disk. > > So I inserted a second disk, configured everything with gpart and added > the disk to the zroot with: > zpool add zroot gpt/disk1 > (I think I had to execute zpool add zroot mirror gpt/disk1, this is not > clear from the man page) You need add for a stripe and attach for a mirror. > And now I have a problem, it seems not to be a mirror but a stripe: > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > gpt/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > Is there any chance to get it into a mirror? > > I don't think there was anything written to the second disk but I cannot > remove it anymore. Yep once you've added a stripe there's no way to remove it. You'll have to copy the data off somewhere and then rebuild the pool. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:49:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F9B1065670 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663418FC12 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-144.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.144]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FA52775A; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:49:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q98GnHfZ002937; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:49:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:49:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Message-Id: <20121008184917.351b29af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster backup package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:49:25 -0000 On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Hi, > what to do with that backup package (-b option) after installation of new port > failed ? Install it with pkg_add? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 18:35:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41DF106564A for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8299C8FC14 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5460339821 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:30 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ozwbLq7OXaIS for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id BCBFC3981F; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:29:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 76.20.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee (76.20.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee [90.190.20.76]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:29:28 +0300 Message-ID: <20121008212928.10685a2gxotv2lc0@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 21:29:28 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 90.190.20.76 Cc: Subject: A strange regression in curl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:35:10 -0000 Hello! We have a web application running on FreeBSD 7.4 (amd64) which uses libcurl to send data to another system via HTTPS POST request. After I upgraded curl from 7.19.6 to 7.24, a mysterious problem appeared. When the length of the POSTed form exceeds 16121 bytes, sending the POST request to another system fails (receiving system responds with Error 500 and writes in its log 'Invalid POST Request received'). Admin of the receiving system says that his system never sees more than 16121 bytes of the incoming POST request. The problem does not appear when sending requests over HTTP instead of HTTPS, but this is no solution due to security requirements. Also I'm told that the problem does not appear when sending requests with curl 7.24 on Linux (don't know which distro). I downgraded curl back to 7.21.3, and the problem seems to have disappeared. I have output of curl --trace from versions 7.24 and 7.21.3, but looking at these two outputs they seem rather similar to me. Interesting thing is that both versions do seem to send the data in two "batches", as seen in the output of --trace. In my test case, after successful SSL negotioation, I see the following actions: Send header, 263 bytes Send data, 16121 bytes Send data, 890 bytes Note how the first "Send data" is 16121 bytes, which is also the size limit where requests start to fail with curl 7.24. It seems that in case of curl 7.24 the receiving server does not receive the second part of "Send data" and thus sees the request as broken. But what is actually the problem? I don't think I can remain with curl 7.21.3 indefinitely... -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 07:11:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA737262 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.phillip10@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF68FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fw7so7524011vcb.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UkKdRghmJtCShymVgKu1TEgaKz7/+fF2DDi6xFz1xhg=; b=cAiCNRaKO7aDj6F2S1Yh1QHzo84tPfqzc8wxE/GwEy3mheEBkPjr4tiwP8LFJ45HIV jy+E1iZuOIh0wDpXAHDF6fP1b+Qw7w2/P42lPZ+2fTD3aqpBoKw0vJLe8oYfzUPRMEaZ SqAWBq+/AA1plXq5z8kxFL8ypwmV130p21sSJQEGqRyYHSK1qPBSPKX71xvup2yqvBaX Vii3wjpgYDBMt735Hx0tCULgS5XLC49ax+BoN+0Bti2n8pLan5tCEK21Avm7Oj8PAUXV A8ViWgUfmUs86UTTC1tkhRzxNHqrUcgGoMBH21C2nnp8ywTttSqkp20CcVd9r3cOJa0L CXIQ== Received: by 10.58.186.226 with SMTP id fn2mr579993vec.33.1349753208254; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:26:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.181.134 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Phillip Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:56:18 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Request to Add Website Details- Hardware Section To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:11:53 -0000 Dear Webmaster, We have been manually researching for relevant partners and found your website very useful. 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Thanks Joe Webmaster From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 09:48:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A833AC0D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1288FC17 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLWPd-0002H0-Nr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:41 +0200 Received: from [10.2.1.173] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TLWPd-0002Gx-7T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:41 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_FreeBSD_update?= From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> References: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7acef32e.2caae151.5073f296.83c70@lajt.hu> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:02 +0200 X-Originator: 193.6.63.109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:48:17 -0000 2012.=20okt=C3=B3ber=208.=2017:35=20napon=20Andreas=20Rudisch=20<"cyb."@g= mx.net>=20=C3=ADrta: >=20On=20Mon,=2008=20Oct=202012=2016:52:24=20+0200 >=20Istvan=20Gabor=20=20wrote: >=20 >=20>=20As=20I=20remember=20correctly=20during=20the=20fetch=20I=20saw=20= a=20message=20that=20the=20current=20patch=20level=20is=20p4. >=20>=20After=20rebooting=20the=20computer=20uname=20gives=20p3=20on=20th= e=20updated=20system: >=20> >=20>=20Why=20does=20uname=20reports=20p3=20while=20freebsd-update=20indi= cates=20p4=20state? >=20 >=20Hi, >=20 >=20if=20freebsd-update=20does=20not=20update=20the=20kernel=20uname=20wi= ll=20not=20show=20the >=20'correct'=20patch=20level. >=20 >=20Andreas Thanks=20Andreas. 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Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 10:26:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10D876 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A768FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q99AQISp084348; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:26:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5073FB19.2070705@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:23:21 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120901 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Hughes Subject: Re: Virtualbox References: <5070FBBF.70504@bananmonarki.se> <20121008200502.10bdc29a@TheHughesLogcabin.net> In-Reply-To: <20121008200502.10bdc29a@TheHughesLogcabin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:26:28 -0000 2012-10-09 03:05, Michael Hughes skrev: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:49:19 +0200 > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Hello list! >> >> When I try to start a virtual os in virtualbox i get an error. >> >> kldload vboxdrv.ko >> kldload: can't load vboxdrv.ko: Exec format error >> >> Rebuilt VB and still this error >> >> 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 12 15:13:06 CET 2012 >> GENERIC amd64 >> >> > > Are you using a PAE kernel? If so you will get this error when truing > to load the vboxdrv.ko. > No PAE kernel. Updated source mon 8 oct 2012. Deinstalled virtualbox and virtualbox-kmod, rebuilt both but the problem persists. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 10:28:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC78AC for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78CCB8FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Oct 2012 10:28:13 -0000 Received: from port-92-206-144-231.dynamic.qsc.de (EHLO CoreI5) [92.206.144.231] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 09 Oct 2012 12:28:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LFLdGAEsLYF3OtgMHZN1Tia/HSMx+jFct13hioc ShuJZdJjUOca4D Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:28:06 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Istvan Gabor Subject: Re: FreeBSD update Message-Id: <20121009122806.bfbc77cae06b6a5416cf8164@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <7acef32e.2caae151.5073f296.83c70@lajt.hu> References: <1922c43c.49710c96.5072e8a8.f2f51@lajt.hu> <20121008173551.e2cc1aad608d691d426a640e@gmx.net> <7acef32e.2caae151.5073f296.83c70@lajt.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:28:21 -0000 On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:47:02 +0200 Istvan Gabor wrote: > FreeBSD Handbook (at the end of section 25.2.2) says: > > "However, freebsd-update will always update the /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh file. > The current patch level (as indicated by the -p number reported by uname -r) is obtained > from this file. Rebuilding your custom kernel, even if nothing else changed, will allow > uname(1) to accurately report the current patch level of the system." > > From this I conclude that if I rebuild the kernel (the general kernel, not a custom kernel), > it should reflect patch level correctly. Yes. > This raises another question: are the updates made sequentially, as p1, p2, etc.? > This would explain why the kernel stayed at p3 level while the system was updated to > p4. Yes. > I Suppose if the update was done in one step after fetching and applying all > update patches the kernel should reflect the system's patch level. Is this correct? Well, it 'should', but it does not, since freebsd-update does not work that way. p4 did not require rebuilding the kernel, so it had not been done. > I am confused a little bit. Feel free to browse the mailing lists, you are not the first one to be confused. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 10:35:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B3DCF9 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758BC8FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so14699258iea.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qTfCIWgBol3HNUR5yYf5EAc7ZeHHkd90MI8VMZ5ylPI=; b=DxIPn910OXXjC3+wtz4DTdPCP6lj9FPvCUe6iFPGLH+CFIK5MJHddjUxlGGJmj/hYy aeh9a71p8wvhsmXJM7NkwfUg1PH62j5jh8VNOS8tzd7DeTNvRWIU9/60r/8End7Wr1s/ h+BvTX6x35TbR5e/uIBdjeLZS5Gscw1jXNugz/sLuEMCH97843pewvJR5rLIf1bPDC/w IhJ6fiTMwAUohtESIlLdC2QMATha3FoHtp6Ovsvbzi/UPdalaFOHsA4k/sM4XSpikelb IQeyBHbBsNlzQNXSQgVo3V9va+ijtECzOeVUyGcPk5fEsH2Hcp93h8lPnMCayR4uwO8P 615Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.104.200 with SMTP id dn8mr15044890icc.43.1349778947697; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.49.67 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.176.81] In-Reply-To: <20121008232937.72dff7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20121008232937.72dff7dc.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:35:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unlocking HDD ATA password From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmgC5HcZaG1dgoV6qSk1IXYL4V/pDFJx6657ovC/mng2O3P46qIi150ePzaprDgk+VoGnVn Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:35:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have a question regarding the use (or the "make usable again") > of hard disks locked with ATA password: I have a Samsung disk > (2.5" with PATA interface) and approx. 160 GB capacity which > is locked by some ATA password which nobody knows. > > What tool is to be used in FreeBSD to transmit the password to > the unit in order to "wake it up"? camcontrol(8) maybe? After some patching? http://blog.multiplay.co.uk/2011/08/freebsd-security-support-for-ata-devices-via-camcontrol/ I have not tried it and don't know if it is what you need; I just found it while googling. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 11:46:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27BA882 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2358FC19 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F66450840 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 04:46:26 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Audio out via HDMI... how? Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:46:26 -0700 Message-ID: <28733.1349783186@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:46:33 -0000 I have a laptop which has an HDMI output port. I can get video out of that (with xbmc) just fine. Audio, not so much. Like not at all, as far as I can tell. So anyway, here is what I get when I do "cat /dev/sndstat": pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play) I have the HDMI output wired into my everything-capable Sony 5.1 channel receiver, which then in turn is wired into my 4 (count 'em four) speakers. OK, so now, could somebody please just tell me how I can do a test that will determine why I ain't gettin' no audio? The receiver is capable of decoding 5.1 DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, and eveything else too. It is working just fine.. not a thing wrong with it. It works great with my Blu-Ray player and does the digital->analog decoding for anything and everything I throw at it. Again, I just want to know how to _test_ doing some output to that from my laptop, via HDMI. I tried these things, but not a sound was heard: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp2 The FreeBSD handbook page that deal with setiing up audio cards doesn't provide a whole lot of guidance for how to test and/or fix digital audio output, whether it is coming out via HDMI (as in my case) or via any other kind of physical transport (e.g. coax or S/PDIF). Somwebody please pass me a clue. I'd really like to get this working. Thanks. P.S. If I have to downmix to 2ch in xbmc before the audio even hits the HDMI cable, I could even live with that. Bu right now, as far as I can tell, I can't get _any_ audio flowing down that cable, period. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 11:55:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAB9BD8 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5E68FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q99BswgW086521; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:54:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <50740FE0.5000508@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:52:00 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120901 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Audio out via HDMI... how? References: <28733.1349783186@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <28733.1349783186@tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:55:02 -0000 2012-10-09 13:46, Ronald F. Guilmette skrev: > > > I have a laptop which has an HDMI output port. > > I can get video out of that (with xbmc) just fine. Audio, not so much. > Like not at all, as far as I can tell. > > So anyway, here is what I get when I do "cat /dev/sndstat": > > pcm0: (play/rec) default > pcm1: (rec) > pcm2: (play) As root sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=2 > I have the HDMI output wired into my everything-capable Sony 5.1 channel > receiver, which then in turn is wired into my 4 (count 'em four) speakers. > > OK, so now, could somebody please just tell me how I can do a test > that will determine why I ain't gettin' no audio? > > The receiver is capable of decoding 5.1 DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, and eveything > else too. It is working just fine.. not a thing wrong with it. It works > great with my Blu-Ray player and does the digital->analog decoding for > anything and everything I throw at it. > > Again, I just want to know how to _test_ doing some output to that from > my laptop, via HDMI. I tried these things, but not a sound was heard: > > cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp > > cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp2 > > The FreeBSD handbook page that deal with setiing up audio cards doesn't > provide a whole lot of guidance for how to test and/or fix digital audio > output, whether it is coming out via HDMI (as in my case) or via any other > kind of physical transport (e.g. coax or S/PDIF). > > Somwebody please pass me a clue. I'd really like to get this working. > Thanks. > > P.S. If I have to downmix to 2ch in xbmc before the audio even hits the > HDMI cable, I could even live with that. Bu right now, as far as I can > tell, I can't get _any_ audio flowing down that cable, period. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 13:40:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B997CA7B for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@fongaboo.com) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550928FC14 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89B584DC4 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from h3lix.wtfayla.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (h3lix.wtfayla.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65509-02 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helix.wtfayla.net (helix.wtfayla.net [24.105.170.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h3lix.wtfayla.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8639284D67 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT) From: freebsd-questions@fongaboo.com X-X-Sender: fongaboo@helix.wtfayla.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request to Add Website Details- Hardware Section In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:40:25 -0000 Again... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:00:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C162DAD for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E598FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2B65E44B; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:46:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.577, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LWpxXQNGJ5Hk; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:46:47 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.139] (c-195-216-043-059.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.43.59]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DF35E42E; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:46:51 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:00:03 -0000 Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise the disk (This is in Windows7). A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT would be beneficial. Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! Will someone enlighten me? Thanks :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:06:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D728412A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838B98FC1B for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554275E448 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:06:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.577, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dEDP-p-E2zxS for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:06:10 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.139] (c-195-216-043-059.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.43.59]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CE74B2028 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:06:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50744B76.8050407@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:06:14 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:06:13 -0000 Leslie Jensen skrev 2012-10-09 17:46: > > > Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. > > My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the > disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise > the disk (This is in Windows7). > > A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) > > I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT > would be beneficial. > > Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? > > I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! > > Will someone enlighten me? > > Thanks :-) > > /Leslie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Found the answer! Sorry for the noice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:22:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0581690A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792108FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpc12-sgyl31-2-0-cust160.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com [80.192.11.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99G5VCk026862 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:05:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <50744B51.20302@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:05:37 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Netflow capture question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:22:27 -0000 Hi, I have some periodic traffic coming off one of my servers that is regular but i can't figure out where its going.. I don't have direct access to the router this is going via, will netflow, flowcapture allow me to monitor traffic ( by port/protocol etc) straight off the NIC? thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 16:25:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFEBB33 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADA58FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q99GPYnc030734 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: SATA Controllers Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:25:34 -0700 Message-Id: <50DE4FB5-4123-4B83-9805-E817331490EE@lafn.org> To: FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:25:41 -0000 Looking through the list of SATA Controllers available at Best Buy, I = don't find any of them listed on the 9.0 hardware page. I need a couple = cheap ones (for non-production systems). Does anyone have = recommendations?= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 17:23:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D085BC5C for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F3D8FC14 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99HNaUO024083; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q99HNaRi024080; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up In-Reply-To: <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Message-ID: References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:23:45 -0000 On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. > > My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the disk for > my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise the disk (This > is in Windows7). > > A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) > > I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT would > be beneficial. > > Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? > > I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! Yes, FreeBSD can handle it. As usual, Windows is the problem. From what I've read, only Windows 7 64-bit supports GPT, and then only with UEFI. So it's very likely that MBR is the only practical choice. Another trick is that Windows generally only has drivers for what was present when it was installed. So switching the BIOS to AHCI for better performance can result in Windows not booting. It is possible to locate the Windows drivers and install them. Otherwise, FreeBSD will work fine without AHCI, disk IO will be just a bit slower. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 18:07:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1464183 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565568FC08 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f182.google.com with SMTP id r20so1669121ghr.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:07:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LKkrMK+/NHpclg6zmggEjo/PxNIpYkfemhU0E5qG7XA=; b=K9tfKP4r8fK33zw1mWxSQ5th0B9b20mLNdlQzqdoRENP3A5HRTkuRySea1qSIoXP8g gy7Ai9X8lG8CwP3fmJbkdhoDetze07MdlYN6RJcD53NFA1MQgDgmo1qwDdq2cdL5/chg tDUd7/ewr+FwRbJVww+3vTGtlc3y8YvcTKtCU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=LKkrMK+/NHpclg6zmggEjo/PxNIpYkfemhU0E5qG7XA=; b=B6e1Ap7z7ol2CRe0ISwoQb22xXGM2ULypV9SzbHEWjWKO4cCLir+IjZynMEUKhzVeq fZXnul4o6CibA/k9k7E3KwoGLxhj+qbK6NkRN2FFWpe1JxWiM0gV7TAADgluSbCsUNL5 laFMvKub1Uc13eEBCp77wxEcJ+FemKJUaT/E+w5rte5O9ftGrc0mdg6zJ+sm5P4jgCGT wMwPmZ52AL0a0GhWGwGWhQrgtZOn1TNElVv8kPRf8XmIpbBoAGLWtUsSq0x6jhxOWPP/ BOeXcnVUiMgZBQwWkAi+Q2D8FHi7w4d+N1ZaKpr7bZI1Qr53F0qvn5DNbKOGDzcSePju QXRQ== Received: by 10.236.110.108 with SMTP id t72mr18327864yhg.32.1349806063659; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l16sm20341351anm.6.2012.10.09.11.07.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Xbmcp3VdWz2CG5b for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:07:38 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up Message-ID: <20121009140738.415bbb48@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <5066E509.9090906@eskk.nu> <5066FD77.9080806@eskk.nu> <507446EB.7060903@eskk.nu> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmtbJmBt8NzkgM5D7hhukf8qsfWdVPFHSYrGx1fz3bSpH3dg/Y59pW9TCasjqN+jyRTQCJh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:07:44 -0000 On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block articulated: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions. > > > > My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of > > the disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must > > initialise the disk (This is in Windows7). > > > > A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table) > > > > I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if > > GPT would be beneficial. > > > > Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system? > > > > I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure! > > Yes, FreeBSD can handle it. As usual, Windows is the problem. From > what I've read, only Windows 7 64-bit supports GPT, and then only > with UEFI. So it's very likely that MBR is the only practical choice. > > Another trick is that Windows generally only has drivers for what was > present when it was installed. So switching the BIOS to AHCI for > better performance can result in Windows not booting. It is possible > to locate the Windows drivers and install them. > > Otherwise, FreeBSD will work fine without AHCI, disk IO will be just > a bit slower. A somewhat more concise discussion of Windows 7 and GPT can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463525.aspx Information on ACHI is available at: http://www.everything-microsoft.com/2010/05/25/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7/ http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/ -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 18:48:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081CADD for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@bbnetworks.net) Received: from mail.bbnetworks.net (mail.bbnetworks.net [IPv6:2a00:1c30:1:100::10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A892A8FC0A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lelu.suonsivu.net (lelu.suonsivu.net [212.16.96.66]) by mail.bbnetworks.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99IlHOF073123 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:48:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from hsu@bbnetworks.net) Message-ID: <50747143.6090406@bbnetworks.net> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:47:31 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu Organization: Backbone Networks Europe User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120921 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Puzzled: install system from hard disk to another does not work, but dvd install works References: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201210081622.q98GMqLH029828@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:48:08 -0000 I have traditionally done disk to disk installs, for example, when changing partition setup. I think this worked with 7 and 8, but now with 9.* it seems to fail. Now, this seems to be quite strange, and I cannot quite figure this out: Setup is like this: - host with two disks, shown up as ada0 and ada1 - I install FreeBSD 9.0R into ada0, with manual setup, which includes - gpt partitioning, with freebsd-boot partition at 64, size 192 (aligned for 4kB blocks), freebsd-swap, and freebsd-ufs partitions - gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 - gmirror label root ada0p3 (other disk will be inserted later) - gjournal label /dev/mirror/root - newfs -J /dev/mirror/root.journal - And appropriate loader.conf etc setups - This install works fine. - Upgrade to latest using freebsd-update - Then I notice that swap (or whatever) was too small, so lets redo the partitions on the second disk with changed partitions: - Boot single user from the working system installed above - Do the same partitioning steps as earlier from dvd - tar/rsync whatever all the files from ada0 to ada1 - reboot from ada1. Now, this hangs when it tries to mount root, the last message is Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/root.journal [rw,async,noatime]... And after this nothing happens (at least for hours). So, what might be wrong? Further debugging: - If I remove journal and mirror (not changing anything else), it still stops when trying to mount root, so it does not seem that mirror and journal have effect (though I have not tried if ordinary partition to partition copy works) - noatime option on mount does not have effect on this - Redoing bootcode commands does not cure it - This is not specific to computer or OS version. I have had same problem on modern amd64 host as well as old i386 host, and this has repeated on at least 4 systems, all different. This happened with earlier 9.0R versions (binary updated) as well, though I cannot be certain if unmodified 9.0R has this problem. Medias have been anything from various sized disks to CF cards. I think doing disk-to-disk install worked with 8.x (though I was mostly using mbr partitions that time). - Media size does not seem to have any effect. - When I give the computer three-letter salute (ctrl-alt-del), it stops the journals and mirrors, and reboots normally. So the kernel is not completely hung, and shuts down properly. - The root disk does not seem to have gotten mounted at all, as dumpfs says "last mounted at" to be /mnt, not / (it was mounted to /mnt when I tried this) - Contents of /boot is identical on both disks (as are all other files, copied with either tar or rsync). - Contents of gpt freebsd-boot partitions are identical - There was slight difference in mbr block, but copying ada0 mbr block to ada1 makes no difference. The difference was that partition data on ada1 was different, with very small partition at the end. Reinstalling pmbr with gpart bootcode does not have effect. - fsck passes without errors. - Dumpfs seems to have no strange differences (other than slightly different size filesystem - Doing this from multi user or single user system does not make a difference - Having disk to install from in single user mode as read-only does not make a difference (can't use vi to edit fstab but that is not strictly necessary...) - Repeating all steps does not make a difference - I have done this so many times, that I am pretty sure I am not typoing something every time. - If I drop gjournal and mirror and create filesystem with softupdates journaling, the resulting system boots - If I have mirror with no gjournal, and softupdates journaling (tested by labeling already existing partition in previous test, so it might not be completely similar situation). Apart from changed partition sizes, there is no visible difference in boot blocks, partition tables, filesystems, and files on the partitions. The commands to create the partitions from dvd seem completely identical, there is no visible difference. Kernel just waits for something when trying to mount root filesystem on ada1, while boot from ada0 works fine. Any idea what is going on? Has anyone else tried this? In what situations root mount could get stuck waiting for something? Heikki Suonsivu bbnetworks.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 9 19:00:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6E3E91 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokomull@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958378FC16 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so16003453iea.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LmQ+V6y09Rs04J0ClVIjN9LiW3HPvBokQvmXyK6Gfl4=; b=Am0Nel3ZTpQqfh2cofowz104F8GzhnL4GRHR3WGmb0tOQIMUgK931wZaD2ofA/aHwj xvM/xuLb5AQi/GTndDIEulujBWpuSYd/hD7kIk9eWQHhM4dfumD5WrppL1HyWvkilCKB pnX6uzhpNnt1Lo5lImuEYjlJahCW7qtZnHuup7FxENjksE1XYHbGqPKHGRHJWimyf3UN ttjy78/v/hgis/qM58U3IjknEu4F6xqZ4coWbCrM+E0/UdlFwtY3RV/XeXwDtPxx6dQO Nzgm1sBApKuYw6BtKvwTKQfdjwvZg9jJYNsynxb1x8la0Ni1YXUmLL4njaDHF+E+PAyb 1zXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.13.138 with SMTP id h10mr2787034igc.55.1349809199707; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.252.28 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50744B51.20302@ifdnrg.com> References: <50744B51.20302@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:59:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Netflow capture question From: Matt Mullins To: Paul Macdonald Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:00:00 -0000 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Paul Macdonald wrote: > I don't have direct access to the router this is going via, will netflow, > flowcapture allow me to monitor traffic ( by port/protocol etc) straight off > the NIC? flow-capture simply receives NetFlow data and stores it to disk. You'll need to use that in combination with softflowd to listen for raw packets on the NIC and generate the NetFlow information. 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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:52:57 -0700 Message-ID: <32134.1349819577@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:52:57 -0000 Bernt Hansson bah at bananmonarki.se wrote: >As root sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=2 Yes, unfortunately I had already tried that before I posted. (Sorry, I should have mentioned that also.) That made no difference whatsoever to the outcome. There was still no sound coming out when I tried cat'ing /dev/random to either /dev/dsp or to /dev/dsp2. So I'm still stuck. 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