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Date:      Fri, 27 May 2016 05:21:35 +0200
From:      Cedric Blancher <cedric.blancher@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
Cc:        freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Toolchain <freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org>, mandree@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Are there SPARC [or other] aligned memory access requirements to avoid exceptions? [now that 11.0's armv6/v7 is allowing more unaligned accesses]
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All pure RISC implementations enforce 'natural alignment' - a 32bit
data type must be aligned 32bit, i.e. 4 bytes, a 64bit data type must
be 8 byte aligned, a 128bit data type must be 16 byte aligned.
Some RISC implementations are not pure, but still the misalignment
comes with a (performance) penalty, either by issuing two loads or
running through a whole trap handler (!!!!) function with hundreds of
instructions.

Ced

On 27 May 2016 at 00:03, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> wrote:
> Is is safe to interpret that an rpi2 armv7/cortex-a7 unaligned access fai=
lure [from before -r300694] would (likely?) also be a failure on some forms=
 of FreeBSD SPARC use?
>
>
> Why I ask:
>
> One of the ports that I had submitted a bug report for unaligned access p=
roblems on a rpi2 (armv7-a/cortex-a7 style handling) was:
>
> archivers/lzo2
>
> ( https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D207096 ). I'd recen=
tly commented that the report might go away after testing what is now -r300=
694 (allowing more unaligned access on, for example, armv7-a/cortex-a7).
>
> Matthias Andree has since asked in a comment:
>
>> ISTR SPARC architectures also barf on unaligned access, so is it worth b=
othering the upstream author?
>
> I have generally stuck to architectures for which I have examples to obse=
rve, if nothing else than to validate at least some of my understanding tha=
t is from reading materials. I normally only submit what I've observed in s=
ome form.
>
> I've no such SPARC context nor do I have knowledge/reference material for=
 SPARCs. Nor am I familiar with the choices FreeBSD may have made for SPARC=
 configuration coverage.
>
> As a matter of hear-say my impression is that some SPARCs can be configur=
ed to require some variation of strict alignment.
>
> But I do not know how much I can infer from what I observed on a rpi2 (ar=
mv7-a/cortex-a7) to FreeBSD SPARC use getting similar results for at least =
come configurations. Nor do I have access to a test environment for SPARC.
>
> So I wonder if my archivers/lzo2 submittal in question should survive bec=
ause of SPARC even if the problem is validated to go away for the updated r=
pi2 like contexts (with armv7-a/cortex-a7 tailoring possibly involved). I h=
ave some other submittals that might face the same type of question.
>
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net
>
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Cedric Blancher <cedric.blancher@gmail.com>
Institute Pasteur



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