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Date:      Sat, 14 Jul 2012 10:58:22 +0200
From:      Niclas Zeising <zeising@daemonic.se>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/Mk bsd.options.mk ports/x11-servers/xorg-server Makefile
Message-ID:  <500134AE.5050708@daemonic.se>
In-Reply-To: <20120714070747.GB55269@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201207131023.q6DANvUG081088@repoman.freebsd.org> <20120714070747.GB55269@FreeBSD.org>

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On 2012-07-14 09:07, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:23:57AM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> bapt        2012-07-13 10:23:57 UTC
>>
>>   Modified files:
>>     Mk                   bsd.options.mk 
>>     x11-servers/xorg-server Makefile 
>>   Log:
>>   Add new OPTIONS_EXCLUSE_${ARCH} to be able to exclude an option on the
>>   given arch.  Fix xorg-server on sparc64 by excluing the HAL option on
>>   sparc64 has it used to be before convertion to new options framework [1]
> 
> I thought HAL was deprecated anyways, why not simply disable it by default
> across the gang?  I've never enabled it and X server always runs fine.
> 
> You also seem to have a typo in OPTIONS_EXCLUSE_ (and commit log itself).
> 
> ./danfe
> 


The issue with HAL is that, while it is deprecated in the Linux
community, we in the FreeBSD project does not have a replacement for
HAL, wrt automatic mounting of usb drives (which can probably be solved
using devd) and device recognition and addition in xorg (which is harder
to solve).  A lot of people expect to ust be able to run "startx" and
have it recognize a mouse, keyboard etc.  With that said, it is quite
possible, and very simple to run x without hal.  But then you need a
xorg.conf, and you won't get automatic recognition of devices
(keyboards, mice) that are plugged in after you've started x, regardless
of whether they are in xorg.conf or not.
Regards!
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