From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 4 15:34:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9357F1065679 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yerenkow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E85C8FC18 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so5531529ywp.13 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:34:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sD7iv+7MT84izHc0AJIh/9Wn6StQU3SvulZFYT9G3tY=; b=lDyaBJ0EyCxAFRZE7H9FAoQtaTGBm8SnARpy4jfs9vhZ5/VZ2w+L0Wtb4hhaXMDYEH JdZolxdT5iPH97kU/9ueB6oWyojigeQ5Wgi7CeK+XXzRaUpfn1MI0IZrdilyAQXr+jXn V5pHlekMejigYTxd7MPLA9oHeSIVkdUX405Hw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.189.97 with SMTP id b61mr6898764yhn.116.1323012880346; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.184.17 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:34:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EDB8BB5.50607@borderworlds.dk> References: <20111202115446.GB25963@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> <4EDABDE8.9060406@FreeBSD.org> <4EDB8BB5.50607@borderworlds.dk> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:34:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: Alexander Yerenkow To: Christian Laursen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:34:41 -0000 I understand that this is not my business at all :) But anyway, IMHO, you should take GPL-free effort as an example. When you visit http://wiki.freebsd.org/GPLinBase you easily can see what going to be dumped, why, and with what it's going to be replaced. What I mean exactly - throw emails to mail list like this, telling that we need to specify software list for removal, provide page in wiki, with each software listed, propose something in exchange, collect not opinions, but real usage examples, and some stats, like "feature A is used by approx 100 peoples". Or "Feature B is used by 3 peoples, but there's no replace ATM". If you think it's time to move from CVS, create page in wiki, find most frequent use cases, think about replacing them with other tools, collaborate with peoples, create simple pro/con table with free editing. I'm sure that very few peoples, or even no one know _every_ usage of FreeBSD base, so deep investigating on each item is would be necessary. That's only my 2c. -- Regards, Alexander Yerenkow