From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 18 14:26:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1910C48AB0 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C9FB1CA7 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1c7k71-0005bV-41; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:25:55 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1c7k7U-000KIu-CB; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:26:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:25:47 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Microsoft announced it is joining The Linux Foundation? Message-Id: <20161118142547.9cd6703cd95036fa147d6918@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20161118140210.35df746a@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20161118113224.20964d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> <747a871c-4d34-7c06-0c04-4650f31bb6ce@FreeBSD.org> <20161118120740.cbaf9f31a85b2b19211f5d82@sohara.org> <20161118140210.35df746a@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:26:03 -0000 On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:02:10 +0100 Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:07:40 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:44:07 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >> Microsoft in its aspect as the global cloud computing company is > >> really quite different from Microsoft in its aspect as the PC > >> desktop operating system company. > > > > Yes instead of trying to ensure that every computer you can buy > >runs Windows, that every corporate email system runs on Exchange etc. > >and everybody has to pay to stay up to date, they want to ensure that > >as much of your data as possible lives on their servers so you have to > >keep paying to get at it with rented applications. It's still a > >lock-in strategy. > > I'm still less an advocate for Windows or clouds, than already not an > advocate for systemd. However, why should a company provide something > for free as in beer to other companies, who will use the service to > make money? You dislike Microsoft? So do I. I dislike this company for > several reasons, but I wouldn't blame them for a valid business model. I'm not blaming them, simply observing what they're doing and that they haven't changed all that much. I won't be buying because I'd rather own the hardware that holds my data but that's my personal preference. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith