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Date:      Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:58:53 +0200
From:      Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:12:16 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>And no GPL is not a binding contract because it fails the
>"consideration" test of what constitutes a contract (i.e. no money
>traded hands and thus no contract was formed... the user gave no
>consideration).   See https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contract ("The
>basic elements required for the agreement to be a legally enforceable
>contract are: mutual assent, expressed by a valid offer and
>acceptance; adequate consideration; capacity; and legality" )

"Is the GPL enforceable in law ?

At least in Germany, based on our own experience: yes. In recent years,
there have also been successful court cases in the United States. We
see no evidence to believe it is not enforceable globally." -
https://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq/ .

http://www.gpl-violations.org/
https://de.wikinews.org/wiki/GPL_setzt_sich_vor_deutschem_Gericht_durch

Btw. you are the only one mentioning morality. I mentioned a business
model.

If you sell electronic products you could follow different business
models. One model could be to rasp away labelling on integrated
circuits and other components, to make it harder for business rivals to
build similar products or harder for pirates to copy your
product. Another model could be to not rasp away anything and even to
include circuit diagrams to the product content, so your customers are
able to maintain the gear, which could be a way to make more money, due
to the customer friendliness, than you would earn by fear of business
rivals and pirates.

For some software the GPL'ed business model is a very good way to gain
customer loyalty, hence I provided the Ardour DAW as an example. It's
probably not the best business model for everyone. That one business
model doesn't fit to everyone, doesn't justify assertions, such as your

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:50:09 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>And here goes the *ABSOLUTE* reason why no developer who ever hopes to
>make any money at all from their work should *EVER* use GPL.

It's utter nonsense! Without doubts MIT, BSD and other licenses are
better for some projects, while for other projects GPL could grant a
bonus.



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