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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 15 December 2011 17:58, O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> Since ZFS in Linux can only be achieved via FUSE (ad far as I know), it
>> is legitimate to compare ZFS and ext4. It would be much more competetive
>> to compare Linux BTRFS and FreeBSD ZFS.
>>
>
>
> Er... does ext4 guarantee data integrity?
>
> You're not comparing like with like; please do some research on the
> point of ZFS before asserting that they're fair comparisons.
>
> A fair(er) comparison could be ext4 with UFS+soft-updates.

Wouldn't UFS+SUJ be the closest atch?
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