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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:29:13 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@peorth.iteration.net>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: VCD (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c)
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At 6:12 PM -0600 2001/1/21, Michael C . Wu wrote:

>  Hmm? I can do that in Asia.  But then there is no need to do so,
>  since Asian countries like Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan cover
>  every inch of their territories.  (Benefit of a small country.)

	Do they cover all the mountainous areas?  What about all rivers 
and caves?  Can you be 100% guaranteed that no matter where you were 
to hike, camp, or do white-water rafting, you could always get full 
and complete coverage with all of the carriers in the country?

	You certainly can't get those kinds of guarantees over here, not 
even in a country like Belgium that has about the same land mass as 
the state of Maryland (one of the smaller states in the US), and with 
less population than the combined Washington, D.C. and Baltimore 
metropolitan areas (fifteen million people, total).

>  Switch a SIM card?

	Do you really want to carry around three SIM cards, three phone 
numbers, and have to be constantly switching between them to get 
coverage?  You might as well have three cheap phones, one on each 
network, and be done with it.


	Did you know that you can't use any SMS gateway I know of to send 
SMS messages to customers that are not on the same carrier as the 
gateway?  Sure, if you're a human being and you're typing in an SMS 
message, you can probably send it to any recipient on any carrier on 
any phone number.

	But if you want to receive automated SMS messages from a network 
monitoring system, you have to make sure that the carrier for the 
gateway machine is on the same carrier your phone is, otherwise it 
simply won't work.  We have investigated this matter at length, and 
it looks like the only solution we have available to us is to set up 
three separate gateways, one for each carrier within the country.

>  The US carriers identify via the EIN of the phone.
>  But in reality, you really have no roaming between two carriers
>  much.  e.g. AT&T phones will not work with Sprint networks.

	But Sprint phones have to work on all the analog networks (which 
they don't own), because their coverage is so incredibly crappy.  You 
can't go more than a pencils width away from the major interstates, 
or outside the largest metropolitan areas, before you're off Sprint's 
network and one one that belongs to someone else.

	I've never, ever had a problem roaming on another network if that 
is what it took to get signal coverage, even if I was in an area that 
was supposedly covered by my carrier.


	All the GSM carriers over here have roaming arrangements with all 
the other GSM carriers outside of their respective countries, but 
roaming on a different network while you're inside the home country 
of your carrier just isn't possible.  And sometimes that is a major, 
major pain-in-the-ass.

>  Bottom line, I like GSM for being the lesser evil.

	I'll take CDMA, any day.  Fortunately, I won't have to wait too 
long before everything over here will be CDMA, and by then, maybe all 
the stupid little national carriers will have been consolidated into 
a small number of continental carriers that are all forced to have 
roaming arrangements with each other, and then we won't have any more 
of this incredibly stupid crap.

--
   These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
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Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>


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