From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 14 10:09:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E24516A4BF; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A19F43FB1; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8EH8ZrO019690; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:08:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h8EH8ZSq019687; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_prot.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:09:54 -0000 On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Robert Watson writes: > > That said, to be frank, no, I'm not sure I want to do this. But I also > > want to make sure we don't break important applications. >=20 > What about important applications that rely on the fact that > unprivileged users can't send SIGALRM to privileged processes? That > used to be the case for ping(8) (though I don't think it is any more), > and there may be others. Shouldn't we err on the side of caution?=20 Well, until 5.x, this limit didn't exist, so right now I think this is still a question of "how conservative to we want to be relative to the status quo". I agree in principle, but we should get the Diablo port (software?) fixed first. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories