From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 14 20:56:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08293 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08277; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:56:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA19631; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:25:59 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980715132558.C15083@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:25:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jon Hamilton Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , fullermd@futuresouth.com, mi@video-collage.com, "Jordan K. Hubbard" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stopping the bloody cross posting. References: <19980715124645.A15083@freebie.lemis.com> <199807150329.MAA00907@allegro.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807150329.MAA00907@allegro.lemis.com>; from Jon Hamilton on Tue, Jul 14, 1998 at 10:31:24PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 14 July 1998 at 22:31:24 -0500, Jon Hamilton wrote: > > In message <19980715124645.A15083@freebie.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Tuesday, 14 July 1998 at 20:11:25 -0700, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > >>> we allow 2 lists so that you can move a discussion from >>> one list to another. >>> >>> hopefully this will ease the problems that we have had >>> with this issue. >> >> Well, it should stop the complaining, but it's a workaround, not a >> solution. If I have a message that is of interest to, say, >> -questions, -hackers, -newbies and -chat, I should be able to send it, >> and the message should be delivered to each member of each list *once >> only*. That goal should be within reach, at least for people who >> aren't also on sublists. You could even handle the sublist case at >> the receiver's end: before delivering a message locally, check if he >> hasn't already received it. > > It's not clear that the "once only" part is universally desirable. It > may be a good default, but there are no doubt people out there who will > want one copy for each list. You're trying to solve a social behavior > problem with technology, and are doomed to fail (or at least to have less > than 100% success). Correct. We can see the vestiges of that at the beginning of the text you quoted. If we take the approach of delivering once only, do we make an exception if the recipient is named explicitly on the To: or Cc: lines? I suppose the technical answer is "that's for him to decide when he signs up for the list". But let's solve the first order problem first. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message