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From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:58:22AM +0200, Niclas Zeising wrote:
> On 2012-07-14 09:07, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > I thought HAL was deprecated anyways, why not simply disable it by default
> > across the gang?  I've never enabled it and X server always runs fine.
> 
> The issue with HAL is that, while it is deprecated in the Linux
> community, we in the FreeBSD project does not have a replacement for
> HAL, wrt automatic mounting of usb drives (which can probably be solved
> using devd) and device recognition and addition in xorg (which is harder
> to solve).  A lot of people expect to ust be able to run "startx" and
> have it recognize a mouse, keyboard etc.  With that said, it is quite
> possible, and very simple to run x without hal.  But then you need a
> xorg.conf, and you won't get automatic recognition of devices
> (keyboards, mice) that are plugged in after you've started x, regardless
> of whether they are in xorg.conf or not.
> Regards!

Understood.  I never wanted automounting and do not own an USB keyboard,
however, plugging USB or bluetooth mice always worked for me without HAL.
Perhaps I just have a lucky xorg.conf.  ;-)

./danfe