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Date:      Thu, 9 Jun 2016 19:31:28 +0000
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        Justin Hibbits <jhibbits@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PowerPC 64-bit time_t
Message-ID:  <20160609193128.GB34204@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <3FB65E20-0376-4041-86DE-F8CAB7F37314@freebsd.org>
References:  <3FB65E20-0376-4041-86DE-F8CAB7F37314@freebsd.org>

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On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 01:41:52PM -0400, Justin Hibbits wrote:
> At the devsummit earlier today I mentioned for FreeBSD 12 wanting 64-=20
> bit time_t across the board.  It was pointed out that the only ones =20
> with 32-bit time_t are i386 and powerpc (32-bit).  I've made the =20
> changes necessary for at least kernel (world is still building right =20
> now), but it's obviously an ABI and KBI incompatible change.  =20
> Addressing KBI is a nonissue, as that's expected to break at major =20
> releases.  ABI is another issue.  I'm unsure how to properly address =20
> ABI breakage -- bumping libc's .so version, or reversion all symbols =20
> that use something with time_t, or something else.  If I can address =20
> it before the code freeze, it could be done for FreeBSD 11, which =20
> leaves about 6 hours from now.

For i386, the only practical option is going to be a new TARGET_ARCH and
likely ELF machine type.

For powerpc, I'd be tempted to just break the ABI and leave a way to switch
it back for people who build products where the ABI change is an issue.

-- Brooks

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