From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 1 08:37:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089AC1598997 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 08:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D6748BFA1 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 08:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.229.77]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mft3h-1ghsDd0fnN-00gGkf; Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:37:40 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 10:37:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "John Levine" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: Why is Sendmail still around? Message-Id: <20190401103737.9b7fd688.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190331192523.D03DE201129F96@ary.qy> References: <20190330034328.2ecbd2c8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190331192523.D03DE201129F96@ary.qy> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IH7AP/UVwCTtmttWnoTRqdFveXtAFnmstVoR/CNxHZaEnnNfI3N a/3W39CONGneaY8ofTXFKRhM/CicPq3Hvw5EcWEJHFQl19OH7Yf/bd5T+kjvwDQC6/pxBhW BVEJ63HzA+TYcBJET9HSHSs0C0DuDd1R0z7XR3Foo+SfeMEOE/OOqCeziO6sspk7Jp2NQ8C bsVSbcaZihKz6zSgnCOKQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ChJdR/4J2gQ=:0NTQQVxbZ9IU0c8ai1zarK h/Z4gcLlYIdya7GmGea01NizCKbuVSY4CX4xNxNJlp2Ln8xf0CrrpanMYBbc/S2JSlLX4m7Dt aUXCTpzlpXu7RfslrScrixzq3jn00jLznLfzbZwL6U8Dev2pqVS/UTvgzHbTVjCyOIfeEoHyW 7r1Y44xzIlJO1v44FN62fcEYGt8CZ9Z4XlZMrbxe56vUwtSNG/rAXIgz0DsHXGnl14aw3UACu o74ex526nEzsC2et8yirpRxCnKVyphuU43+s8KKkZTbSqlAmoKcos0+S3SaoawL5Tc+PzryE6 V1xnREbKJgP/ZaxstRMzYOyPga3ApZANLE6k48px8zUwLnMraXJC6Rz31aJleS5LFMe1lNqO/ LTtg4GCY4WCYU2TwuM8Trn5dZqy42IbcXIs4ftrNT/YxwJSNoblTClJ3gNaUiXYPjr1U4/XZY L4ww7zhdcFobcGvvlPG8c9lb8FIDWNCypz3hKrk+3FZON4PHnCc1t2CWF1zaDGip5dzymKcqE bU1mv83LXZ7N+AzZC70TpPifjwybSRVWUDY8FEEy8c7zgJ3XPetMF9N+9isXNJzv7JOfl7s1B R5JWpq18Ye3fKZzYAFEfElP6Sh4m5NvCZ4XpT8W2HeNxbv5gJ5D/baiSpA10Tz7XPDafhrLpT vfSPbJlyTmuZVB+OTQJDwZThkRCf1giRr4dSayT/Qe4HvM6OkTaj9W/RxPLyp4TIlgmSkzXeg DOAC1NRtFqNJllUpbWX4Cn8YUKi11NpEOY4JLpnxo4qLKbz9fFPvqEWBAcA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D6748BFA1 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 08:37:53 -0000 On 31 Mar 2019 15:25:23 -0400, John Levine wrote: > In article <20190330034328.2ecbd2c8.freebsd@edvax.de> you write: > >Sorry, maybe I didn't write my current problem in a more > >precise way: The SmartHost option (mail relay provided by > >ISP) is gone, ... > > Are you saying your mail provider offers no submission server > for its users? I didn't say that. Even worse, I stated that I now have to use the mail provider's SMTP "interactively" (through the MUA). :-) My main intention was to find a convenient (!) way to locally submit messages to sendmail (or something else) which would then do all the "outgoing mail chores" in the background. Sorry for the confusion. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...