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Date:      Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:06:47 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Robert Nordier <rnordier@nordier.com>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/disklabel disklabel.8
Message-ID:  <19990801100646.M64532@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199907311338.PAA10124@m2-36-dbn.dial-up.net>; from Robert Nordier on Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 03:38:54PM %2B0200
References:  <199907310812.BAA05505@freefall.freebsd.org> <199907311338.PAA10124@m2-36-dbn.dial-up.net>

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On Saturday, 31 July 1999 at 15:38:54 +0200, Robert Nordier wrote:
>> grog        1999/07/31 01:11:59 PDT
>>
>>   Modified files:
>>     sbin/disklabel       disklabel.8
>>   Log:
>>   Make intelligible:
>>     Describe the command formats in English.
>>     Add references to other programs (boot0cfg, fdisk).
>>     Remove some old cruft, including FUD about single-level bootstraps.
>>     Add example of output format.
>>
>>   Not-objected-to-by:	msmith
>>   			rnordier
>
> Actually, I do object: 24 hours (particularly Friday afternoon through
> Saturday morning) is probably too short a period after which to assume
> "qui tacet consentire" in the case of a volunteer project.

Well, I specifically avoided any reference to consent.  And you'd be
right about the timing if this were code.  I expected some kind of
negative feedback, but in view of the fact that this is a man page,
and the current text was *very* confusing, I thought it would be
better to commit now and correct later.

> Although the restructuring makes some information easier to digest,
> I think in other ways, this is a step in the wrong direction: it is
> too i386-centric,

Good point.  It probably should be moved to man8.i386, and a similar
one to man8.alpha.

> and IMO anything relating to the slice structure (boot0cfg and
> fdisk) has no business being discussed here.

Man pages have always referred to other man pages.  Granted, this
reference is a little longer, but in view of the fact that this is not
discussed anywhere else, I think it's appropriate.  It's almost
impossible for somebody who doesn't know the code intimately (and that
includes most of the committers) to make sense of what we had there.

> (Even the pre-existing reference to the fdisk table in the BUGS
> section would be better discarded.)

I think the reference to fdisk is appropriate; it's an area where
things can trip over each other.  On the other hand, I *did* remove a
reference to the Tahoe partitioning method.

> A sample specific gripe:
>
>>   The booteasy bootstrap manager
>>
>>    FreeBSD supplies a boot manager called booteasy which resides in
>>    the Master Boot Record.  Use the boot0cfg program to install it.
>
> The default FreeBSD/i386 boot manager is simply called "boot0"; it
> is *not* called "booteasy", which is a different DOS-based program
> that is also available (on CD-ROMs, at ftp.FreeBSD.org, etc.) in the
> (DOS) "tools" directory.  You can't use boot0cfg to install booteasy.

Ah.  Then I misunderstood your recent mail message.  Why do we have
two programs to do the same thing?

Any other comments?

Greg
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