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Date:      Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:29:06 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: The strangeness called `sbin'
Message-ID:  <33576F33-EA87-467F-945F-1ED4349FF1B6@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20111114092922.GA2164@hoeg.nl>
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On Nov 14, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Ed Schouten wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>=20
> * Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, 20111113 23:57:
>> If we're going to talk about making a change that's actually worth
>> making, let's just move everything into / and get rid of /usr
>> altogether. It served its purpose back when it came into being, but =
with
>> modern disk sizes and the (unfortunate) prevalence of the "one big /"
>> layout model, it's time in the sun is long past.
>=20
> Now that I think of it, it may be possible to sort of combine this =
with
> my approach in a way that it doesn't break POLA for existing users. =
What
> if we leave everything in the tree alone, but only modify the code, so
> that any new installations on empty directory structures use the
> following symlinks:
>=20
> - /sbin -> /bin
> - /usr/bin -> /bin
> - /usr/games -> /bin
> - /usr/lib -> /lib
> - /usr/sbin -> /bin
>=20
> But now the question remains how we should change the default
> partitioning. I think default installations place home directories in
> /usr/home, with a symlink from /home. Should they now be placed in
> /usr/local/home?

That assumes that you have wide-spread support to change the status-quo. =
 It isn't clear from this thread that you've made that case.

Doug is right that there be dragons here, and I for one would like to =
see cold, hard data on the actual effect of hundreds of systems that =
have a good mix of ports installed rather than logic that it shouldn't =
matter.

Warner=



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