From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 6 22:10:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6779D16A403 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9B213C441 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.48.2]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8961747B; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l06MAQxE011098; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:10:26 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Ed Schouten From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:36:51 +0100." <20070106213651.GD46094@hoeg.nl> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:10:26 +0000 Message-ID: <11097.1168121426@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for PTY/devfs changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:10:34 -0000 In message <20070106213651.GD46094@hoeg.nl>, Ed Schouten writes: >> But only calling the handler on CREATE will not work, because plenty >> of programs will stat(2) first and find nothing there and complain >> to the user. > >Is it really needed that we keep such compatibility? Shouldn't those >applications use grantpt(3) or pty(3) functions anyway? Not only PTY uses cloning. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.