From owner-cvs-all Tue Sep 11 13:15:20 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC4437B407; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA14321; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:15:08 +1000 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:14:00 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: "Brian F. Feldman" Cc: Mark Murray , Peter Wemm , , Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_prf.c src/sys/sys systm.h In-Reply-To: <200109111446.f8BEknK07078@green.bikeshed.org> Message-ID: <20010912060306.Y7389-100000@delplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Bruce Evans wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > Agreed. Peter's original comment was absolutely justified. The _ONLY_ case > > > I can see this possibly being even moderately alright is if it is somehow > > > done in a way that makes it act like a macro definition and can be > > > #undefined or (called)() in one of the standard ways. > > > > Disagreed. This seems like a normal optimization to me. It's like > > replacing strlen("foo") by 3. > > So you don't take issues at all with GCC not only implementing the C > language per se but implementing actual C library routines, no matter how > standard they may be, in the compilation step? Right. The C library is part of the C language (in the hosted case). I would only disagree with the compiler implementing the library in a way that significantly constrains the implementation of the parts of the library that the compiler doesn't implement. E.g., it would be bad for it to convert printf("%s", "a") into builtin inline putc('a', stdin) where stdin is only compatible with Linux's stdio.h :-). OTOH, it already has to constrain the library for very machine-dependent things like varargs. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message