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Date:      Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net>
To:        "Derek C." <coffee@blarg.net>
Cc:        Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Okay!  Accept my sincerely apology.  Didn't see that from  handbook.
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96.1010725074927.29686E-100000@euphoria.confusion.net>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010724222221.02edfe80@mail.blarg.net>

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freebsd-chat methinks?  I'm not on chat, so /me ducks if anyone from -chat
doesn't like that idea...

On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Derek C. wrote:

> Thank you Sung. We are happy to have you here, so long as you keep the 
> postings on topic, and polite. If you are ever frustrated and feel the need 
> to rant, perhaps you should start a Yahoo! group called freebsd-rant (I'll 
> join it if you do)... Maybe, one day, the kind folks here at FreeBSD.org 
> will become hip to the need for such a forum, and open one, but until then, 
> we appreciate you keeping your posts on topic and friendly.
> 
> Derek
> 
> At 10:17 PM 7/24/2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote:
> >Okay,
> >
> >I apologize to all FreeBSD users.  I wasn't aware of the posting rule in
> >handbook.  Once again, my sincerely apology goes to you all.
> >
> >"The topic of any posting should adhere to the basic charter of the
> >list it is posted to, e.g. if the list is about technical issues then
> >your posting should contain technical discussion. Ongoing irrelevant
> >chatter or flaming only detracts from the value of the mailing list
> >for everyone on it and will not be tolerated."
> >
> >
> >Sung N. Cho
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> >
> > > OK, sorry, but play time is over and it's time for you to take your
> > > pill and return to your room for the night.  These nice men will help
> > > you on with your special jacket so you don't hurt yourself again, OK?
> > > You hear me Sung?  Yes, I know about the voices telling you to post
> > > these messages, I do, but we've been over all that BEFORE Sung!  Bad
> > > Sung!  You know what happens when you post bad thoughts to the mailing
> > > lists, remember?  It's in the handbook charters we read every morning
> > > when we get up, isn't it Sung?  Can you tell me what those rules are?
> > > Come on Sung, we know those rules don't we?  Yes we do, we read them
> > > in the handbook, can we say them now?  Very good, let's say them
> > > together:
> > >
> > > "The topic of any posting should adhere to the basic charter of the
> > > list it is posted to, e.g. if the list is about technical issues then
> > > your posting should contain technical discussion. Ongoing irrelevant
> > > chatter or flaming only detracts from the value of the mailing list
> > > for everyone on it and will not be tolerated."
> > >
> > > Now Sung, you know these rules and you know what the nice men have to
> > > do when you don't follow them, don't you?  Yes, they have to insist.
> > > We don't like it when they have to insist, do we Sung?  No we don't.
> > > We don't like it at all.  We don't let you post to the mailing lists
> > > anymore when that happens, do we Sung?  That's right.  We have to ban
> > > Sung.  Be a good Sung and stay away from the mailing lists when the
> > > voices are telling you bad things, just like we told you, OK Sung?
> > > The nice men don't want to have to insist.  Good Sung!  The nice
> > > men will take you to your room now, go with them.  That's right.
> > > Bye bye Sung!
> > >
> > > [Whew!  Thank god for Lithium and sendmail access lists, that's
> > > all I've got to say!]
> > >
> > > From: Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
> > > Subject: Bullshit!  Mac OS X is not FreeBSD.  Get real please.
> > > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:36:06 -0400 (EDT)
> > >
> > > > Okay, don't give me crap like I'm troll or anything stupid for I'm 
> > FreeBSD
> > > > user.  But, I think there is a double standards in BSD community.  First
> > > > of all, MAC OS X is not FreeBSD.  How can it be a FreeBSD if it has
> > > > totally different core except that it has a FreeBSD user land commands?
> > > > Or, have I heard this wrong?  2nd, I personally don't see the difference
> > > > between APPLE and MICROSOFT.  At least Microsoft doesn't pretend to be
> > > > friends with Open Sourced Community.  APPLE is bullshit company.  It
> > > > builds an OS based on Open Source and they're making it a proprietary.
> > > > That's bullshit!  3rd, OS X is a one crappy OS I've ever seen!  Infact,
> > > > most APPLE users have gone back to OS 9 because OS X requires them to buy
> > > > all the softwares (Office suites...etc) built for OS X since the 
> > emulation
> > > > is terrible and utterally useless (TOO DAMN SLOW!).
> > > >
> > > > It's also bullshit that FreeBSD community cannot throw away it's 
> > pride and
> > > > accept the defeat and try to learn from it.  We all heard that in recent
> > > > benchmark, both Linux 2.4 and Windows 2000 kick FreeBSD butt in
> > > > performance.  FreeBSDers complained so they did the test again with all
> > > > the optimizations enabled and FreeBSD still couldn't beat both Windows
> > > > 2000 and Linux 2.4 (not to mention, Linux 2.4 and Win 2000 didn't even
> > > > receive special treat for getting tuned.)  Come one people!  Let's 
> > cut the
> > > > bull shit and get real.  I'm sick of this idiots just saying this and 
> > that
> > > > without actually contributing anything to FreeBSD development.  I hope
> > > > FreeBSD 5.x does a milestone just like Linux 2.4 and Windows 2000 did.
> > > > Also, don't give me the crap like Windows 2000 and Linux are unstable!
> > > > I've tried em and Windows 2000 is a totally different beast than any
> > > > previous Windows (2000 is stable as a rock!).  So is Linux.  Linux 2.4 is
> > > > even stabler!
> > > >
> > > > Why then do I use FreeBSD?  I use FreeBSD not because it's better than
> > > > Linux or Windows 2000, not because it has better hardware support than
> > > > Linux or Windows, but just because I like the consistent layout of the
> > > > file structures.  Redhat seems to move around files on every release.
> > > > Also, ports collections seem to be handy when I'm not in mood to compile
> > > > manually (not that I can't do it in Linux).  I wish FreeBSD 5.x finally
> > > > get support for my new Kensington USB (OPTICAL) mouse on my Laptop! I
> > > > don't know about FreeBSD hardware support on desktops, but laptop 
> > hardware
> > > > support is simply not impressive! I'm not about to go back to wheel 
> > based mouse
> > > > (got tired of cleaning wheels).
> > > >
> > > > I hope this doesn't offend anyone. (Just got tired of listening to crap!)
> > > >
> > > > Sung N. Cho
> > > >
> > > >
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