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Date:      15 Aug 2002 18:33:25 +0000
From:      Josh Paetzel <>
To:        Jim Frost <>
Cc:        Daniel Eriksson <>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD 4.6 rl0 and xl0 watchdog timeout problems (and solution)
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On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 21:55, Jim Frost wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 17:48, Daniel Eriksson wrote:
> > Not that it in any way helps you, but FreeBSD is not the only OS
> > sensitive to IRQ sharing. Even Windows has its problems, like trying to
> > get a Soundblaster Live! card to share IRQ with the USB controller.
> > Depending on the motherboard and driver version it will either BSOD on
> > you or just lock up without even a blue screen.
> Yup; now that I know it's an IRQ conflict I'm ok with that ... I just
> didn't have any way of knowing that that was the problem (irq12 was not
> reported as being used by any device other than my ethercard).  What I
> had been confronted with seemed bizarre ... card works in one slot,
> doesn't work in another.
> I do miss the days of IRQ jumpers, at least you knew what was using
> what.
> > As to your complaint about having to manually select every package: I
> > see this as a conservative design decision. There are a bunch of
> > packages that will install applications or scripts that weakens the
> > security of your box, so by not defaulting to install everything (even
> > making it difficult to select everything) like some Linux distros do,
> > you automatically get a safer, more secure system.
> That's fine with me, but there should be a way to /tell/ the installer
> that you want to select (and de-select) them all.  Tediously selecting
> hundreds upon hundreds of checkboxes individually is ridiculous.  In
> comparison to every other installer I've used in the last five or six
> years this one is quite primitive, and irritatingly so.
> jim
I take it you've never picked the expert OR beginner option for the
packages on any recent slackware distro?  And what about Solaris 9? 
That's got an ala carte approach as well, unless you just tell it you
want everything on 2 cds...and need I even begin to talk about the 14 cd
set that comprises IRIX these days?

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