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Date:      Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:21:00 +0300
From:      Achilleas Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
To:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
Message-ID:  <201009131221.00549.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100910222331.GA29252@rix.kiwi-computer.com>
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=CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Saturday 11 September 2010 01:23:31 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 =
Rick C. Petty =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 04:58:04PM +0300, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> >=20
> > Because tones of app(let)s were written on this technology, and those r=
unning them cannot afford rewriting them.
> > its easier to just fix the plugin than rewrite every applet on earth us=
ing javascript.
>=20
> Javascript doesn't provide everything that Java does, for example: thread=
s,
> socket connections, audio, file system access, native integration, etc.
> Also although some implementations of javascript are quite fast, Java sti=
ll
> outperforms them for most operations.  Also, DOM manipulation is terribly
> slow compared to Swing even.
>=20

You are correct. If someone is coming from a certain technological world,
he can tolerate the many drawbacks of javascript.
If he is coming from Unix/academics/open-computing world then it is hard
to live up with the perception of quality in javascript.

> Someone else wrote:
>=20
> > > Java had its day.  Time to move on.
>=20
> HTML5 can't do many of those things either.  Flash at least gives you
> all of that except native integrations (which is unimportant for browsers=
).
> Flash and Java won't go away until all of those problems are solved by
> other means.  HTML5 is *not* the final solution for the web by any means.
> Although, I'd take h.264 support any day over applets.  =3D)
>=20
> -- Rick C. Petty
>=20



=2D-=20
Achilleas Mantzios



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