From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 06:39:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E638737B405 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail8.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6B943FDD for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (qmail 32708 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 13:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2003 13:39:46 -0000 Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HDdiGI025669; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zion.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HDdiPg076411; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@zion.baldwin.cx) Received: by zion.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6HDdiGf076410; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: John-Mark Gurney Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:05:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030717080805.GA98878@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030717015052.B46015@xorpc.icir.org> <20030717085439.GC35337@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20030717085439.GC35337@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307170902.20004.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:39:48 -0000 On Thursday 17 July 2003 04:54 am, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Luigi Rizzo wrote this message on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:50 -0700: > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:43:33AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > David O'Brien wrote this message on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:08 -0700: > > > > - ipfw & natd & ipf & ipfs & ipfstat & ipmon & ipnan, why would one > > > > needs these? /rescue is to fix a borked /, not replace PicoBSD. > > > > > > ipfw I can see as useful. If you have a kernel that defaults to > > > closed, and you need to access the network, then this is a problem. If > > > we had > > > > actually, this is trivial to fix: > > > > sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0 > > I didn't know about this. :) > > My objection to removing it has been removed. :) I now support removing > ipfw and friends (from /rescue). I believe that sysctl only affects ipfw, so people using ipfilter might still need ipf if ipfilter defaults to block as well. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/