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Date:      Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:23:24 +1030
From:      "Martin Minkus" <diskiller@cnbinc.com>
To:        "Jeremy Lea" <reg@shale.csir.co.za>
Cc:        <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Proposal for CD reorganisation for 4.0
Message-ID:  <001b01bf76b8$30813f60$14b626cb@bender.cnbinc.com>
References:  <20000213170109.V60507@shale.csir.co.za>

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> Hi,
>
> I was thinking (I know, I know, I shouldn't do that, it's bad for me
> ;)...
>
> Since we now have 3000+ ports, what are the chances of getting a special
> "FreeBSD Ports Distfiles" CD-ROM subscription set, which would just
> contain the distfiles?  Since this set would be fairly low maintainance
> (just dump a copy of the FTP site onto CD :) it could be released at a
> low cost and with a fairly frequent update interval.  I'm sure plenty of
> people would go for something which worked out to around $5 per month,
> including a lot of Linux people, since the CD would not have anything
> specific to FreeBSD on it.  NetBSD and OpenBSD people should also be
> interested.
>
> This would also make the 4.0 set easier to get onto 4 disks, and it
> would do out of date slower (since the packages are prebuilt for that
> snapshot of -CURRENT).
>
> Another advantage is that we might be able to get rid of some NO_CDROMs,
> since the distfiles CD set would be around the cost of the media.

Personally, i think thats a pretty good idea!

I pay per meg i recieve (dedicated internet with static IPs isn't cheat in
australia :(( ) so, i have a subscription order from walnut creek, so i have
everything on CDs rather then paying for downloads all the time.

What annoys me, is,
1) FBSD releases are probably a little "tooo" often.
2) Port Distfiles/Binary Packages start getting old on the CDs too fast
And lately (with 3.4-Release, which *REALLY* annoyed me);
3) Most of the ports distfiles are MISSING on the 4 cd set. Probably because
there is just not enough space
with so many ports now adays. All the binary package's appear to be there.

So. If we create a ports distfiles distribution, it could be released
montly, and use 2cds ? (or 4cd, and include all the binary packages too ?)
It could also be useful for Linux, and Hurd, and so on, and contain just the
FreeBSD ports distfliles. (And still have the FreeBSD name on it ? Unless
walnut creek just creates it as a source distribution CD)

FBSD releases wouldn't have to be quite so often. It could be 2 cd's (i386
base OS and some common packages, and alpha base OS with some common alpha
packages). or 4 cds, with all the binary packages, like we're doing now,
minus the distfiles (which most of the important ones are missing anyway!)

Well, thats my contribution.

Martin.

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