Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:40:46 +0000 From: spellberg_robert <emailrob@emailrob.com> To: "Person, Roderick" <personrp@UPMC.EDU>, fbsd_chat <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request Message-ID: <4B07451E.8020907@emailrob.com> References: <200911200921.nAK9LKpf063202@lurza.secnetix.de> <4B06DD70.8030308@emailrob.com> <1AE59099C6D80E41BEB64A1768AFB4EA30ED5BAF@msxmbxnsprd18.acct.upmchs.net>
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i thank you, sir, also. Person, Roderick wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org] >> >> >> > You don't have to do anything. >> >>[ slow burn, then, sigh ] that's the problem with the world, today. >>when people don't --have-- to do anything, people don't --learn_how-- to do >>anything. >>oops, i digress. >> >> >> >> >>>You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much >>>irrelevant for LCD displays. While 85 Hz did make sense >>>for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not >>>necessary with LCD monitors. They won't flicker with >>>60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD. >> >>this is useful to know. >>while i --have-- seen some that claim a f_vert up to 85_cps, >> 75 seems to be a popular top_end. >> > > > You could get an LCD monitor that only has the 15 pin connection, then you can > choose refresh rate and play with modelines. At least on the Viewsonic LCD I have > which is 5 years old I had to do that to get it working. That is if you really want to keep doing such things. it isn't that i --want-- to keep doing this; it is that i --can-- do so, if i desire. for my 500ps, i had set up 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x960 and 1600x1200; all at 85. once i had tweaked these to my satisfaction, i left them alone. this was quite_a_few years ago. about two weeks ago, i decided to try improving on the 1280x960; this led to adding 1440x1080, which i like very much, now that i have used it for a_while. you see, i am a hardware guy. some fellows tweak gasoline engines. i met a machinist who built a steam_locomotive at 1:8 scale [ i think it was a 4_8_4 ]. i have a friend in the flower business [ roses ] who builds chairs out of wood. if i had my druthers, i'd be building small systems out of hcmos 8_bit single_chip_controllers and msi [ lately, i have become intrigued by energy_conversion ]. another way to while_away the time is to build hf_band receivers and [ < 5_watt ] transmitters out of vacuum_tubes. winding coils is --very-- therapeutic. >>>My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several >>>monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective >>>of the manufacturer. Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that >>>you haven't seen with your own eyes before. I'm serious. >> >>holy moses !!! >> >>you are reinforcing my long_held belief that lcd is a downgrade from crt. >> >> >> >>>By the way, back in the CRT days, my favourite was EIZO. >> >>not familiar, but, i've heard the name. >>maybe, i saw some in grad_school. >>i --know-- i saw the name on a retailer's web_site, yesterday. >> >> >>>I disliked Sony. >> >>freedom_of_choice is good [ that'll get the secret_police after me ]. >> > > > I'll second you belief that LCD are worse than CRTs for the most part. I really > like the Apple LCD monitors but these are in the high end range of LCD monitors > once you start up there the picture quality and resolutions start to match that of CRTs, > in my opinion. The only thing I don't miss from my CRTs is the high pitch hum and > reduced desk space. i thoroughly understand. from my late parents, i inherited a very solid, wooden "equipment_stand" [ for lack of a better term ]. it's about 30" high, with a footprint of about 18" x 24". the legs are 2x2 and it has a 3/4" shelf a little more than halfway up. it has routered moldings. it is stained darkly; it --might-- be mahogany. this thing is solid; i think it dates from the 1920s. no veneered plywood here; it is made the way --i-- would make a stand, --if-- i made stands [ hmmm ... ]. it's the kind of stand that would very comfortably support one of those 15_digit, motorized, mechanical calculating_machines that made ibm famous, not unlike the machine that jack lemmon is seen using in the opening scene of "the apartment" [ billy wilder, 1960 ]; those things were --heavy--. it sits at the side of my desk, which is a good thing, because the desk space is occupied by four mid_towers. the fans in those things mask any hum. between the am_radio and my tinnitis, i don't notice any high pitches, either. ah, bliss. > For the record my favorite CRTs were from SGI . The two I had were manufactured by LG, > so my second LCD was an LG for this reason. It is definitely better than the Viewsonic, but > still not as good picture wise as the CRTs, IMO. i am not impressed by what i read regarding viewsonic. i know next to nothing about lg, but, i will look into them. > Rod Person > Sr. Programmer > (412)454-2616 > http://www.ccbh.com > > "An educator never says what he himself thinks, but only that which he thinks it is good for those whom he is educating to hear."-Nietzsche rob
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