From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 03:46:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6760216A46B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 03:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31D513C491 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 03:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so288645mue for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr59006fgb.1193882540942; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.1? ( [78.92.53.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v23sm2208966fkd.2007.10.31.19.02.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <472933A2.1080407@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:02:10 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071009 MultiZilla/1.8.3.3a SeaMonkey/1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <47282067.8070706@highperformance.net> In-Reply-To: <47282067.8070706@highperformance.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailer Error Messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:46:33 -0000 Jason C. Wells wrote: > This is just a short little complaint. Could we please make mail > exchange error messages just a little more understandable? For the rare > occurrences where I actually get a legit non-spam induced bounce it > would be nice to be able to quickly discern what happened. > > 1 - Don't use pronouns. "This domain is is blacklisted." Oh I see it > was "THIS" domain that was blacklisted. That clears things up. Contact > the postmaster? Oh I see "THE" postmaster. > > 2 - Say what you mean to say. ----- The following addresses had > permanent fatal errors ----- > > Actually, the address probably didn't have any errors. It was probably > some sort of anti-spam in play. > > 3 - Use complete sentences. Please include a subject and verb PLUS the > reason why there is an error. "server.foo.com rejected server.bar.com > for reason." "There is no mailbox suchandsuch at server.foo.com." > > (now I must wonder what sort of default sillyness my server spews to > everyone else when every variety of spam malfeasance reflects of my MX) > > I used to think that running my own MX was neat. Now I am starting to > think that this is the realm of wizards. Can mere mortals use the > internet without ceaselessly battling with asshats? The fight is all > gone out of me. > > Later, > Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I haven't had a chance to taste such messages in full color. Could you send us your collection of the most annoying bot replies? :)