From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 20 14: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDB837B417 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328C7C1C4; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24900; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:00:05 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fBKM0bo66521; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:00:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Brett Glass Cc: Jeremy Karlson , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011220065451.02653af0@localhost> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Dec 2001 14:00:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011220065451.02653af0@localhost> Message-ID: <0dn10dwnzu.10d@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass writes: > At 03:00 AM 12/20/2001, Jeremy Karlson wrote: > > >Okay, "proprietary" is perhaps not a good word, but I still can't think of > >a better one. "Closed" is almost always the appropriate word when I see "proprietary" misused. Actually, your "do something proprietary" is OK as far as I can tell, which is why I didn't criticize it directly and used it myself. I suppose someone can do something "like proprietors/owners characteristically do" or something like that. The little lecture was just to note that the word doesn't mean "closed" or "non-GPL". > Try "commercial." GPLed software cannot be commercial, because it > cannot be the object of commerce. Yes, you can sell a disc with > the software ON it for money, but you cannot license the software > ITSELF for money. But everyone uses "software" as an ambiguous synonym for both an intangible "software work" and a tangible "software copy", and you may sell copies in commerce. Actually, you can sell the work too, and I suppose that some dot-goners have done that, but I'm not sure that qualifies as commerce. Also, you can license GPL software in return for cross-licensing fees in the form of valuable intellectual property rights from derivers (which happens in every derivation of GPL software). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message