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Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:41:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3f1496d1f598c84b3871b630f161256e152aca75.camel@tom.com> <681077991.2278153.1587146552233@mail.yahoo.com> <20200417213025.16ba5877.freebsd@edvax.de> <1659102270.119843446.1587168373188.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <20200418092801.20d10f5b@archlinux> <4bc4b613-50a7-4890-61e8-5ed5037b07dc@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200418165853.79dbdde1@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200418165853.79dbdde1@archlinux> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 494HJ81Bzjz4RWN X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=tGdv5Knc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::133 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 15:41:45 -0000 On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:12:16 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >And no GPL is not a binding contract because it fails the > >"consideration" test of what constitutes a contract (i.e. no money > >traded hands and thus no contract was formed... the user gave no > >consideration). See https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contract ("The > >basic elements required for the agreement to be a legally enforceable > >contract are: mutual assent, expressed by a valid offer and > >acceptance; adequate consideration; capacity; and legality" ) > > "Is the GPL enforceable in law ? > > At least in Germany, based on our own experience: yes. In recent years, > there have also been successful court cases in the United States. We > see no evidence to believe it is not enforceable globally." - > https://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq/ . > Not according to wikipedia which says it is an enforceable *LICENSE* and *AGREEMENT* but it is not a contract. FSF does not claim it is a contract (they claim the opposite) and with good reason it gives them and the person who licensed stuff under a stronger case since it is a federal (copyright infringement) and not a state issue. Note in the US unlike most countries the states (provinces) have widely varying laws and the one court that found it to be a contract was using a non-standard commercial code (not the Uniform Commercial Code used by a majority of states) thus it is not clear how it applies to UCC states (or states with different customized codes). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Legal_status -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org