Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:16:31 -0500 From: Sean Cavanaugh <millenia2000@hotmail.com> To: <jnatola@familycareintl.org>, <jerrymc@msu.edu> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config Message-ID: <BAY126-W4837739815772A6310FC6ECAB20@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E417E@www.fcimail.org> References: <20090219165942.GA8883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E417E@www.fcimail.org>
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> Date: Thu=2C 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500 > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > To: jerrymc@msu.edu > CC: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 > I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a > FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to set= up > some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user = to > grasp- I have mac users and pc users here- >=20 > But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing=20 I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install w= ith either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is mor= e MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of t= hem to look like MSWindows. setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log = in with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or K= DM (depending on which you want to use). Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your n= eeds. -Sean > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20 > Sent: Thursday=2C February 19=2C 2009 12:00 PM > To: Jean-Paul Natola > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: desktop app/config >=20 > On Thu=2C Feb 19=2C 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500=2C Jean-Paul Natola wrote: >=20 > > Hi all=2C > >=20 > > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the libr= ary > > running FreeBSD-=20 > >=20 > > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config= do > I > > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will automatica= lly > > launch the desktop gui >=20 > The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest Fre= eBSD > (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE=2C update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_= 1 > so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will hav= e > graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree. > Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice=2C although > you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than > from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting > for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl > and maybe a couple of games for fun. >=20 > Then=2C just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the syste= m. =20 > and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in > the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it=2C the > more they make sense. >=20 > One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many > other editors=2C but for system management=2C vi is the omnipresent=2C ub= iquitious > one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things > are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it > but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty > good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at: =20 > =20 > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/ > =20 > There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD. >=20 > "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them > The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and > is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good. > The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed. >=20 > At first=2C it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command > oriented=2C not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful wa= y > to administer a system=2C but it takes more initial learning. >=20 > Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common > complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times. > The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway=2C they > are not interested in hearing whines again. But=2C if you have a real > question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way' > and not just grousing=2C people on the list are usually very good about > giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people=20 > learn=2C but not interested in people complaining. =20 >=20 > If it is a bug=2C post a pr. If it is a feature request=2C remember tha= t=20 > FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but=20 > they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very=20 > long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself=20 > and then submit it as an improvement before then. >=20 > Good luck and have fun. >=20 > ////jerry =20 > =20 > >=20 > > thanx > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org"
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