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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d17sm15137111qke.101.2020.06.16.14.30.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.1.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49mhFs4kRxz4SVS for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:30:49 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <20200616173049.00002bbf@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <20200616170906.9c0bb6c7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616175118.2d536f55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616123659.000025a6@seibercom.net> <20200616130710.00002909@seibercom.net> <20200616151200.0000663a@seibercom.net> <20200616164609.00004446@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/.nc64IqTo7_vmBHlF5XNlY/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mhFx0Fqmz3WVw X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=PLfvKlaG; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.57 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.939]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.987]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.10)[0.099]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2d:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:31:02 -0000 --Sig_/.nc64IqTo7_vmBHlF5XNlY/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:01:32 -0400, Aryeh Friedman commented: >On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 4:46 PM Jerry wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:21:39 -0400, Aryeh Friedman commented: =20 >> >There are a lot of people who want to make FreeBSD a OS that is >> >usable on the desktop by normal everyday non-technical end-users >> >(aka a "retail OS") and the very same people (or a sizable overlap >> >at least) also are the ones who b*tch the most about how plain text >> >email and the stuff that goes along with it is "evil" (or at least >> >for luddites). So in the mind of the people who know FreeBSD is >> >not (and never was meant to be) a retail OS, link the two in our >> >minds. =20 >> >> Congratulations! That is one of the best examples I have seen of a >> "false equivalence fallacy" on this forum in awhile. >> =20 > >I think you're the one that should be congratulated for purposely >being a jerk (you and Chris have found every way possible to twist >everyone's words around to mean what you want them to mean). If you >want a false equivalency how about this for a very good one >complaining about how your MUA formats *OTHER* people's mail. Be gone >troll. 1) That sound suspiciously like a 'straw man argument'. 2) When did I infer my MUA formats 'OTHER' peoples mail? 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